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 Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: The Council of Nine and the Star Trek Pantheon |
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| Quote: | I've recently dived back into the mysterious saga of the Nine, whom not only Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince but also Peter Levenda have looked into as well. I've gotten some strong hits off of what little information I've processed on the topic. I've yet to dig into it, but a few months ago I also fortuitously stumbled upon a copy of the Nine's manifesto The Only Planet of Choice on a clearance rack at a used bookstore. As usual, I process this material with a neo-Jungian, Synchromystic eye. Nothing is taken at face value and the events and phenomena are purposefully deconstructed in order to place them within the greater tapestry of connection, conjunction and coinciding-ence.
I've looked into the story of the Nine before, when doing research for my sci-fi symbolism book. It's well known that Gene Roddenberry had extensive contacts with the Nine as did Jon Povill, who worked on the show Sliders as well as Synchromystic cult fave Total Recall. But it's less well-known that there were nine major characters in the original cast of Star Trek: The Next Generation, all of whom had direct counterparts in the Egyptian pantheon. So for your edutainment, here's a excerpt from my upcoming book dealing with Star Trek's connection to this very mysterious and powerful group...
In between the Star Trek TV series and the first Star Trek motion picture, Gene Roddenberry would find himself confronted with a real-world galactic Brotherhood. The ensuing drama would serve to be one of the strangest episodes recorded in the life of major Hollywood figure.
In early 1975, a broke and depressed Roddenberry was approached by a British former race car driver named Sir John Whitmore, who was associated with a strange organization called ‘Lab-9.’ Though unknown to the public, Lab-9 were ostensibly a sort of an independent version of the X-Files, dedicated to the research of paranormal phenomena. However, Lab-9 had another, more complex agenda- they later claimed to be in contact with a group of extraterrestrials called the ‘Council of Nine’ or simply ‘The Nine’, who had been communicating through ‘channelers’ or psychic mediums.
The Nine claimed to be the creators of mankind, and had informed the channelers that they would be returning to Earth soon. Lab-9 had wanted to hire Roddenberry to write a screenplay based on the Council of Nine’s imminent return. To help Roddenberry in his research, Lab-9 flew him out to their headquarters, located on a large estate in Ossining, NY. There, Roddenberry met and interviewed several psychics, and prepared the groundwork for his script.
Roddenberry wrote a script called the Nine, in which he fictionalized his experiences at Lab-9 and the message for humanity that the Council of Nine wished to convey. But Roddenberry’s story focused more on his fictionalized alter -ego and his marital and financial worries than on the Nine themselves, and Lab-9 requested a rewrite. He handed the task of revising the script to an assistant, Jon Povill. In his revision, Povill posited that the hit sci-fi TV show that Roddenberry’s alter ego had produced in the 60’s was not actually his work, but had been channeled through him by the Council of Nine. UFO cultists in the 70’s and 80’s would make similar claims about Star Trek itself.
Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince tackled the issue of the Council of Nine in their controversial 2001 book, The Stargate Conspiracy. And the tale as they told it was a sordid one of government mischief and New Age gullibility. The man who set the whole thing up was Andrija Puharich, who was involved in the early career of famed Israeli psychic Uri Geller. According to Picknett and Prince, Puharich was also involved with the CIA’s notorious MK Ultra mind-control program as well.
And this was no ragtag bunch of hippie phreaks that Roddenberry was dealing with. According to Picknett and Prince, “the Nine's disciples included multimillionaire businessmen (many hiding behind pseudonyms and including members of Canada's richest family, the Bronfmans), European nobility, scientists from the Stanford Research Institute and at least one prominent political figure who was a personal friend of President Gerald Ford.” Roddenberry biographer Joel Engel noted that Whitmore introduced Roddenberry to several key figures in the British Broadcasting Corp. as well. It’s interesting to note that at the same time Roddenberry was meeting with all these British TV executives about the Council of Nine, a Star Trek knockoff called Space:1999 premiered on British television.
It was later revealed in the 1977 book Briefing for the Landing on Planet Earth that the Nine claimed to be the figures whom the ancient Egyptians had based their Ennead, or pantheon of major gods, on. Another book of channeled messages from the Nine was published in 1992 and was titled The Only Planet of Choice: Essential Briefings from Deep Space. However, little has been heard from the Nine since that book’s publication. But it is worth noting that a year after it was published, a new Star Trek TV series appeared called Deep Space Nine.
Following the disappointing first film, Paramount had carefully built Star Trek into a major motion picture franchise. So in 1986, Gene Roddenberry was given the opportunity to relaunch the series on TV, this time in syndication. The story went out that the Star Trek creator had been frustrated by the first series, and felt he had to make too many compromises to convention. This time Star Trek would be done his way. And again, despite Roddenberry’s oft-professed atheism, the series would have even stronger mystical undertones.
But in Star Trek: The Next Generation, Roddenberry and his team would take the opportunity their own Ennead with the new characters, this one based more in the later Greco-Egyptian pantheon than the primeval gods of the Ogdoad and Ennead. Working with a rotating team of writers (at least two of them would challenge Roddenberry’s claim to exclusive authorship in court) , Roddenberry’s choices seem to reflect a great deal of deliberation as to assignation of identity and signifiers to indicate each particular deity.
• The new captain was intentionally designed as Roddenberry’s fantasy version of himself. The Star Trek creator wrote that Jean Luc Picard “is an older man, thoughtful, compassionate, hard but fair - and very irresistible to women.” Picard would be played by Patrick Stewart, no stranger to ritual drama himself, having already played in two separate Sun King films, Dune and Excalibur. Jean-Luc Picard would be the father-god Osiris, Zeus, Odin, Yahweh, or what have you.
Perhaps in honor of Solar martyr Julian the Apostate, Roddenberry had originally named his captain ‘Julien Picard.’ But a consultant later recommended ‘Jean Luc’ from a list of possible replacements. It was interesting choice. ‘Jean Luc’ translates into ‘John the Light’, perhaps a reference to the fact that the many Templar-derived organizations hold John the Baptist in particularly high esteem.
NCC-1701-D- both 33 and 17 are encoded in the Enterprises's registry
• Picard’s Isis would be Dr. Beverly Crusher (Gates McFadden), a flame-haired Magdalene-type and the unrequited object of Picard’s affections. Like Isis, Beverly is also a widow and has a young son.
• Joining Picard would be hotheaded first mate Commander William Ryker (Jonathan Frakes), playing the part of Ra-Horus. Ryker would take over the fight-and-fornicate Captain Kirk role.
• Ryker’s Hathor would be Deanna Troi (Mirina Sirtis), the clairvoyant ships counselor. Deanna Troi’s name identifies her with the Moon goddess. Diana, goddess of the hunt, was identified with the Moon, and Troy was the city of Apollo, brother of Selene, the Moon goddess. In his original treatment, Roddenberry wrote that Troi’s alien race, the Betazoids, were said to “engage in almost constant sexual activity.”
• Acting as their Harpocrates would be young Wesley Crusher (Will Wheaton), who would often be the Enterprise’s savior, much to the consternation of many a Trekker. He even physically resembled a younger version of the “Horus the Elder” figure of Ryker.
• The guardian role of the dog-headed god Anubis would be played by the Klingon strongman Lt. Worf (Michael Dorn). Roddenberry was even kind enough to name him after a dog’s bark.
• Acting as the Thoth/Hermes messenger-cum-scribe of the Enterprise is the aptly-named android Data (Brent Spiner).
• And acting as the ship’s protective Sekhmet, or Athena, would be the security chief Natasha Yar (Denise Crosby).
• Rounding out ST:TNG’s starring cast was Geordie La Forge, the Enterprise’s Ptah. Or Hephaestus, in the Greek. Or Vulcan in the Roman, if you like. He is the craftsman, the engineer, the maker, the builder.
That’s nine major characters introduced in the first episode of ST:TNG, a “Council of Nine” if you will. And exactly like the fabled Council of Nine, the cast of ST:TNG all have corresponding deities in the Egyptian pantheon .
Now ask yourself- how deeply did Gene Roddenberry’s involvement with Lab-9 go? We have the cast of his new Star Trek series seemingly modeled on an Egyptian Ennead exactly as the Nine claimed to be, and another series that seems to make direct reference to the "Nine from Deep Space." Awfully strange coincidence there, wouldn’t you say? |
http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2008/06/council-of-nine-and-star-trek-pantheon.html |
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The story of the "Nine" to me is one of the most fascinating para case histories next to the Mothman West Virginia era.
The notion, that a group of nine non human entities were channelling through government spooks, professors and sci fi writers is pretty out there.
...but isn't it said, that ultimately, these transdimentional tricksters ended up saying some pretty...well anti Semitic and racist things? Seems like that usually is the case. I wonder if there's the Klan in non human intelligence land, as "they" seem to have a strong hate of non whites judging from case histories. (Madam Blavatsky even propagated some pretty racist beliefs, along with the Tibetan ascended master obsession of the Nazi party)
Anyways, the big point here is, how much inspiration this whole "Nine" idea has been given to sci fi and other things. Whatever the truth is, it certainly had a bearing on Roddenberry's work.
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Ive watched lots of Star Trek, and Babylon 5. Currently am up to season 6 of Star Trek The Next Generation. I gotta say that this analysis of the series is on to something. The characters and their roles, especially.
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Seven of Nine AKA Isis
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After reading this thread earlier today, I walked through central park, stopping at the obelisk behind the Metropolitan Museum of Art. The benches around it were unusually empty for such a beautiful evening. I sat down, and opened Peter Levenda's Sinister Forces book two where I had left off, and the chapter began with him drawing the parallel between The Nine and the Egyptian Ennead of Heliopolis. Of course, book one of Sinister Forces goes into much more depth about The Nine, but as far as I can recall, this was the first mention of the Ancient Egyptian angle. But even more unexpected, was the cute little black cat that strolled out of the bushes and flowers to my left, walked right in front of me and hopped back into the bushes on my right.
Naturally, I was inspired to walk around the obelisk drawing pentacles in the air and making other assorted esoteric gestures, in an improvised greater-ritual-of-the-pentagram-ish display of spontaneous devotion. |
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| dada wrote: | After reading this thread earlier today, I walked through central park, stopping at the obelisk behind the Metropolitan Museum of Art. The benches around it were unusually empty for such a beautiful evening. I sat down, and opened Peter Levenda's Sinister Forces book two where I had left off, and the chapter began with him drawing the parallel between The Nine and the Egyptian Ennead of Heliopolis. Of course, book one of Sinister Forces goes into much more depth about The Nine, but as far as I can recall, this was the first mention of the Ancient Egyptian angle. But even more unexpected, was the cute little black cat that strolled out of the bushes and flowers to my left, walked right in front of me and hopped back into the bushes on my right.
Naturally, I was inspired to walk around the obelisk drawing pentacles in the air and making other assorted esoteric gestures, in an improvised greater-ritual-of-the-pentagram-ish display of spontaneous devotion. |
Speaking of obelisks...
(spot where JFK was killed)
and speaking of pentagrams...
(spot where princess Di was killed underneath in the tunnel)
and other esoteric shapes...
How come the global elite always feel the need to carry out their assassinations and death ritual events like 9/11 utilizing occult symbolism?
(or on the 33rd degree parallel?)
Levenda's book sounds fascinating, as does "Stargate Conspiracy".
In my view, 9/11 and the global elite's esoteric belief systems draws back to ancient Egypt and belief in star gates.
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nathan28
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| 8bitagent wrote: | | In my view, 9/11 and the global elite's esoteric belief systems draws back to ancient Egypt and belief in star gates. |
Briefly, can you outline the "stargate" theory? What exactly did the ancient Egyptians believe about it? I know that the author of Our Gods Wear Spandex speculates loosely that deep behind it all there is an order of Osiris worshippers hoping to follow O-dawg back to Orion and return to some home planet where the sun is green and rises west to east. I also understand that both Alice Bailey and the Freemasons have some similar crap about Sirius, like it's where the "enlightened" go after they die (and, apparently, the LDS was heavily influenced by Joe Smith's fascination w/ Masonry and some of its elders' ties to the OTO) (real quick editorial comment, the point of enlightenment is to not have to go anywhere after you die, i.e., nibbana or "cessation...") But I'm curious. |
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| Quote: | | How come the global elite always feel the need to carry out their assassinations and death ritual events like 9/11 utilizing occult symbolism? |
Isn't this largely because there are only so many symmetrical shapes and digits one can re-purpose for a symbolic system, and these same shapes being basic will reoccur endlessly elsewhere in unrelated contexts? Why don't you get as excited about squares as you do about pentagons?
Interesting OP. I don't buy the secret society part with only one source, but it sure sounds like Roddenberry and the other writers put together the Egyptian pantheon for the Picard Trek.
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Springmeier considered TNG to be a mind control trigger. Andy Pero thought Babylon 5 was a true story based on his time travel adventures.
Babylon 5 is very interesting. It has many of the expected motifs. The "Rangers" are clearly taken from Tolkien. It has, in common with Tolkien, the reawakening of ancient evil. The awakening of a subconscious genocidal urge in humans bearing a certain genetic marker (and aliens, in B5) in "Thirdspace" is very similar to "Quatermass and the Pit".
And so forth.
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| Stephen Morgan wrote: | Springmeier considered TNG to be a mind control trigger. Andy Pero thought Babylon 5 was a true story based on his time travel adventures.
Babylon 5 is very interesting. It has many of the expected motifs. The "Rangers" are clearly taken from Tolkien. It has, in common with Tolkien, the reawakening of ancient evil. The awakening of a subconscious genocidal urge in humans bearing a certain genetic marker (and aliens, in B5) in "Thirdspace" is very similar to "Quatermass and the Pit".
And so forth. |
I found the origin of Babylon 5 to be quite amazing - JMZ was having a shower and pretty much the entire story arc of the whole project came to him in one go. Unlike Star Trek which tended to be episodic, I think the long B5 could be very demanding of the audience. There was one episode which I thought outstanding which was an interrogation for almost the whole of it. Two men in a room with a chair - I thought it took balls the size of spacehoppers to do that.
I thought they did amazingly well with the CGI of the time. It is one of the few series I would like to watch again in it's entirety (along with the most RI series ever made - Dark Skies)
BTW HAve you heard that there is a movie of V in the works? |
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JackRiddler
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Huh?
V was already out in 2006.
Do you mean the Watchmen? Now that's exciting, except I am demanding a pledge from the world that no one see it without reading the comic first, since it's one of the greatest comics ever and would be spoiled by a movie no matter how good.
http://watchmenmovie.warnerbros.com/ |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: misinfo, Disinfo, misdirection. |
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"Fetch!"
Off to ancient Egypt instead of to the 20th century.
Just replace the op's mentions of Egyptian myths and woo with...military intelligence...and you get back to what is really behind Star Trek. It is warrior culture propaganda loaded with counterpropaganda, too.
Names are stolen from political scandals, not mythology.
Spooks knew the memetic value of Star Trek and wanted to maximize it despite Roddenberry's territorial claims.
And spooks steered the name-hijackings, very easy to do.
>Captain Kirk = Pearl Harbor. Capt. Alan Kirk was fired as head of Naval Intelligence for wanting to warn Pearl Harbor about the attack plans in the broken Japanese Purple code. His story resurfaced in 1962 in his oral history to Butler Library at Columbia University.
The keyword purple has been hijacked numerous times, too.
source: 'Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor' by Robert B. Stinnit (1999) pages 80, 147, 359
>*Captain Picard = JFK. Major John Pickard was commander of the photographic department of the Candian Defense Department and in 1977 declared photos of Lee Harvey Oswald with a rifle to be forgeries. Pickard had been asked for his judgement by the Canadian Broadcast Corporation since there was an imminent (whitewash) investigation by the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
source: 'Conspiracy' by Anthony Summers (1980) pages 95, 96
*Notice how the HOMONYM for "John" and the French-Canadian theme were insinuated.
| Quote: | | But a consultant later recommended ‘Jean Luc’ from a list of possible replacements. |
There's the power of embedding psyops in a collaborative environment.
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How much, if any, discussion is there at the op website of the covert use of media by military-intelligence for creating norms, social engineeering, military-recruiting, etc?
Is is all just "art" in a 'wonderous' "associative Universe?"
His mission statement seems to suggest that and I know otherwise.
I don't buy into this fetishing of mystical acausality-
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| nathan28 wrote: | | 8bitagent wrote: | | In my view, 9/11 and the global elite's esoteric belief systems draws back to ancient Egypt and belief in star gates. |
Briefly, can you outline the "stargate" theory? What exactly did the ancient Egyptians believe about it? I know that the author of Our Gods Wear Spandex speculates loosely that deep behind it all there is an order of Osiris worshippers hoping to follow O-dawg back to Orion and return to some home planet where the sun is green and rises west to east. I also understand that both Alice Bailey and the Freemasons have some similar crap about Sirius, like it's where the "enlightened" go after they die (and, apparently, the LDS was heavily influenced by Joe Smith's fascination w/ Masonry and some of its elders' ties to the OTO) (real quick editorial comment, the point of enlightenment is to not have to go anywhere after you die, i.e., nibbana or "cessation...") But I'm curious. |
I believe the OTO was a wee bit after Joseph Smith, unless you're referring to L Ron Hubbard and Scientology? Speaking of science fiction and high weirdness...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L_Ron_Hubbard#Post_war_activities
| Quote: | After the war, Hubbard met Jack Parsons, an aeronautics professor at Caltech and an associate of the British Intelligence occultist[53] Aleister Crowley.[54] [55]Hubbard and Parsons were allegedly engaged in the practice of ritual magick in 1946, including an extended set of sex magic rituals called the Babalon Working, intended to summon a goddess or "moonchild."[56] The Church says Hubbard was working as an ONI agent on a mission to end Parsons' supposed magical activities and to "rescue" a girl Parsons was "using" for supposedly magical purposes. In a 1952 lecture series, Hubbard recommended a book of Crowley's and referred to him as "Mad Old Boy"[57][58] and as "my very good friend".[59] Hubbard later married the girl he said that he rescued from Parsons, Sara Northrup.[60] Hubbard also described Parsons as his friend in his Scientology lectures rather than a person he was investigating. Crowley recorded in his notes that he considered Hubbard a "lout" who made off with Parsons' money and girlfriend in an "ordinary confidence trick."[15][12]
Sara Northrup became Hubbard's second wife in August 1946.[61] It was an act of bigamy, as Hubbard had abandoned, but not divorced, his first wife and children as soon as he left the Navy (he divorced his first wife more than a year after he had remarried).[12] Both women allege Hubbard physically abused them. He is also alleged to have once kidnapped Sara's infant, Alexis, taking her to Cuba. Later, he disowned Alexis, claiming he was not her father and that she was actually Jack Parsons' child.[62] Sara filed for divorce in late 1950, citing that Hubbard was, unknown to her, still legally bound to his first wife at the time of their marriage. Her divorce papers also accused Hubbard of kidnapping their baby daughter Alexis, and of conducting "systematic torture, beatings, strangulations and scientific torture experiments."[63][64] |
The Star Gate theory, from what I have gathered goes back to the ancient Egyptian esoteric belief of "Tuat".
It's been said a lot of esoteric beliefs come from eachother and ultimately draw back to ancient Egypt in some ways. I believe even Manly P Hall
was interested in this idea in his world mystery studies.
The collapsing of the twin towers(or pillars) I now wonder, if it was more than just "shock and awe" to the public no matter who did it...
In David Ovarson's book about the secret architecture of Washington DC, he talks about the streets of DC lining up as a celestial sacred geometry and ultimately an ode to Sirius.
We know that "two towers/pillars" is a very ancient iconic symbol,
but the Pentagon could be seen as an allegory to Sirius.
Where else do we see the Pentagon shape with the Sirius star?
(chrysler logo)
(mars pyramid)
(sirius heiroglyph)
It's funny you mentioned Joesph Smith and astrology, I remember finding this spiritualist site that was using astrology to be pro LDS:
| Quote: | When the 49 constellations are laid out in a seven by seven table, according to their position in the heavens, with seven of the zodiac constellations in the middle row, then several patterns emerge which imply design and foreknowledge. First, each column can readily be associated with the deeds of one of the seven angels. Second, each row can be associated with one of the seven kingdoms of earth, heaven and the underworld. Third, when that is done, there is a bright star in every constellation located where that angel did his most important work. That is thirteen stars in exactly the right places, with none left out. Fourth, several of the ancient star myths are clearly represented, which of course was known to the Greeks. What is new here is that the myths correlate very well to scriptural symbolism, especially in the case of Hercules and Perseus. The curious details of the latter, complete with a first vision in a sacred grove, being given a breastplate to look into and a sword, and receiving several needed gifts all fit amazingly well with the life of Joseph Smith. Thus it is concluded that the constellations not only testify of Christ, as discussed in last month's article, but they also provide detailed witness of the heroic deeds of the seven chief angels who serve God.
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I had a guest on my podcast recently, who was talking about star gate mythology and the beliefs of the elite, as well as the concept of the "fifth element"(the 5th element movie goes into that and the concept of angelic/adaimic proto languages)
Back to what I was saying, I kind of see it as the "powers that be" acting out acts and events grafted onto very ancient templates and belief systems...perhaps they are trying to change the "aeon" with events like 9/11, or trying to find a star gate...perhaps the keen interest in Tibet? As everyone from Alice Bailey to even the Nazis seemed obsessed with.
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8bitagent
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| JackRiddler wrote: | | Quote: | | How come the global elite always feel the need to carry out their assassinations and death ritual events like 9/11 utilizing occult symbolism? |
Isn't this largely because there are only so many symmetrical shapes and digits one can re-purpose for a symbolic system, and these same shapes being basic will reoccur endlessly elsewhere in unrelated contexts? Why don't you get as excited about squares as you do about pentagons?
Interesting OP. I don't buy the secret society part with only one source, but it sure sounds like Roddenberry and the other writers put together the Egyptian pantheon for the Picard Trek. |
Ok...so if Im a detective, and the killer Im after seems to kill his victims in front of/near certain statues, and does it only on certain dates according to astrology...I as a good detective should just ignore that, because hey...nothing to see there?
"Only so many geometric shapes"...yeah, because big black pentagram with a golden eternal flame statue, directly above the crash scenes of famous politicians and royalty happens a lot:)
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| JackRiddler wrote: | Huh?
V was already out in 2006.
Do you mean the Watchmen? Now that's exciting, except I am demanding a pledge from the world that no one see it without reading the comic first, since it's one of the greatest comics ever and would be spoiled by a movie no matter how good.
http://watchmenmovie.warnerbros.com/ |
V for Vendetta was out in 2006; not V
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_%28The_Second_Generation%29 |
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