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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Internet Honeypot Info Reply with quote

In several recent RI posts Jeff has been talking about the use of 9/11 conspiracies on the Internet as a disinfo ploy. Yesterday I received my daily article from the ZNet website, which is an ongoing collection of progressive articles and research.

The article was a summary of a 1998 report on document declassification for the DOD, by the consulting firm of Booz Allen Hamilton. One of the major conclusions was that the Internet be used as a tool of distraction. Release of selected Kennedy assassination documents was an example that would serve to help keep Internet researchers "diverted" from substantive matters of U.S. policy and focused instead on the pursuit of trivial irrelevance related to the long ago death of JFK. There was other discussion along the same vein.

I just wanted to bring this to everyone's attention if they had not already seen it. It sure ties in with some of the RI topics. Here is the link to the article:

"Diversion" and "Good Faith Distraction": On the Use Value of Conspiracy Data for the Power Elite
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reverse psychology. Reply with quote

Great username, by the way.

The internet was taking off in 1998 with unfiltered dark truths.
The US-NATO war in the balkans was underway and the bombing in 1999 was the first US war where the internet was considered a major factor to be considered in psy-ops due to the instant international effect.

And 1998 was a rough year for old government cover-ups.

The patsy for Martin Luther King's murder, James Earl Ray, finally told former US Ambassador to the UN, Andrew Young, of how he watched the conspiracy be planned and executed.

A former FBI agent named Donald Wilson who found damning evidence of a conspiracy while searching Ray's alleged car but had hidden it due to the implications that the FBI was in on the conspiracy came forward and told his story.

So since old crimes and cover-ups were bubbling up and bound to keep doing so it would've been clever psy-ops to state that conspiracy info is itself a conspiracy to distract us away from...whatever is more important than our government murdering our leaders and the mainstream media helping to cover it up.

Yes, reverse psychology works. This is a technique the tobacco companies use when they have to make anti-smoking ads but they know how to make ads that instead encourage smoking. Broadway song: "They did it 'cause we said No."

There is no bigger story than the inside job of 9/11 being used as an excuse to end The Enlightenment, no matter what anyone says.
Except for global warming killing off the human species, of course.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh man...bullshit.

Talk about "distractions"...hand-wringing about how "the movement" is being diverted by some supposed ten-moves-ahead strategem of the power elite is simply more Loserism.

I've never paid obsessive attention to the JFK assassination, which has in turn laid me open to all sorts of accusations about my inappropriate focus in terms of historical researches, and my suspect political opinions (I don't claim any firm conclusions about what happened, or who did it.) But I respect the people who don't let it be. For one thing, they keep turning up a lot of hidden history details which are significant in and of themselves, independent of their possible meaning in terms of Dallas 11/22/1963.

And now, to hear someone run it back to them, as yet another arena for accusation...

The Loser Left. A million self-entitled autocrats, presuming to know what's right for Everybody...fortunately, few of them have any experience with handling firearms, or the Circular Firing Squad would be a much more charged affair.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: grrrrrrr. Reply with quote

I wrote my post above after reading the op, not opening the provided link.

I just opened the link to the full Znet article and it is BULLSHIT, either psy-ops or horrible ignorance.

There's disinfo on JFK's role in the Vietnam War. There's disinfo on 9/11.
Gee, what a surprise. Two topics key to understanding US History comprising of atrocious inside jobs.

JFK ended the autonomous CIA's paramilitary operations in Vietnam loosely called at the time "a war" by signing NSAM263, National Security Memorandum #263 which decreed an end to whatever was going on and US troops out.

Three days after the CIA killed JFK the war was put back on the tracks when LBJ signed NSAM273.

Here's this Znet article's disinfo. What appalling ignorance or malice.-

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Okay, here's a useful translation of the material just quoted (at perhaps too much length): "the Internet-based release of certain previously classified material can be used to encourage people eager to understand United States policy and history (with their 'unrestrained public appetite for secrets') to NOT investigate the all-too covert policies and hidden agendas of United States imperialism past and present. It could help to steer them onto wild historical goose chases that do not not pursue serious matters like the real aims of the mass-murderous U.S.-imperialist assault on Indochina (significantly initiated by the war criminal JFK). Let's encourage people to invest scarce time and energy in a fruitless search for 'who killed JFK.' Let's divert and distract them away from making important inquiries into criminal policies that murdered millions of Southeast Asians and others around the world past and present."

It's hard not to think that the same sort of reflection has already occurred to U.S. intelligence managers in relation to the 9/11 conspiracy industry. Every minute spent trying to fruitlessly connect the scattered and deceptive dots of fantastic 9/11 conspiracies is not spent looking into monumentally more relevant issues.

Even if substantive basis existed for 9/11 conspiracy theories, the industry is a great diversion from the most critical matter at the heart of real threats to ordinary citizens at home and abroad: the incitement of terrorist attacks against the U.S. (with the 9/11 actions and much worse well within the capacity of people U.S. policymakers have deeply antagonized) by the structurally super-empowered agents of a brazen imperialist project that privileges U.S. global dominance (and related U.S. control over pivotal Middle Eastern energy resources) over human survival and over the survival of ordinary Americans (3).

Decades later, perhaps, Booz Allen Hamilton or some other spooky multinational consulting firm will produce a similar report regarding the declassification of archived materials from the early 21st century. Releasing bits of tantalizing data about 9/11 could be useful, the firm will argue, for diverting citizens from the documentary record of the hubristic and imperialist decisions and agendas that provoked 9/11 and led to the disastrous and illegal occupation of oil-rich Iraq in 2003 and then to a massive, partially nuclear U.S. assault on Iran. The last action, it will possibly have happened, killed a half million Iranians and helped spark a Middle East conflagration leading to the death of millions and to numerous terror attacks (including the use of radioactive materials) against U.S. citizens at home and abroad.

Some in the battered U.S. public will perhaps have an "unrestrained appetite" for getting to the heart of these key historical matters. It might be useful, future U.S.-affiliated corporate-Orwellian information managers will argue, to occasionally toss those angry Americans a few spicy 9/11 Internet scraps to throw them off the trail of questions that matter.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahem. Don't be distracted by the trees here. I thought about bypassing the ZNet article and just linking to the actual report, but I figured that the sophisticated folks who hang out here could handle and filter the BS. There was a nugget or two in what was written. I agree with you (Hugh) that the rhetoric used to interpret the study was a bit over the top. JFK was an example used in the actual report itself. I agree that stating JFK started the Vietnam conflict is definitly absurd. 9/11 stands by itself. It's simply too strange too have gone down the way the "official" version describes.

Now what I should have highlighted a bit more was the actual report itself. The report is at Operations Security Impact On Declassification Management.... What seems germane to Jeff Well's honey pot and distraction warnings are statements in the actual DOD report like "The use of the Internet could reduce the unrestrained public appetite for "secrets" by providing good faith distraction material" and "The use of the Internet could channel public interest towards already appropriately declassified material and possibly lessen FOIA requests." Finally, the JFK example is part of the closing strategy section. One part of the strategy is "Diversion: List of interesting declassified material - i.e. Kennedy assassination data."

I'm trying to be more neutral than Mr. Street's article, but the actual recommended strategy here is to divert with shocking or surprising material that has already been scheduled for declassification, so that the real clues are overlooked. Jeff Wells was dead on. Of course the posting of this report is also part of the diversion strategy, but all disinfo contains a little real info.

In response to "The Loser Left. A million self-entitled autocrats, presuming to know what's right for Everybody..." Huh? What does this have to do with the price of eggs? I'm not recommending ZNet, it has its problems. It just happens to be where the links lie. I agree that firearms can often be more effective than social programs. However, when your head is in the sand, your butt is up in the air and ready for kickin', or worse.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just get tired of the endless parade of doomstruck warnings, dire hypotheses, and speculations about what THEY are doing to US, as if none of us have the capacity to cast ourselves in any role other than as victims. As if we were nothing more than powerless dunces.

At some point, I think it becomes imperative to realize that cataloging the innumerable array of extant, potential, possible, and/or imaginable politico-pathogens out there isn't nearly as effective as growing an effective immune system for one's awareness- a project that requires continual attention and self-discipline, while managing to remain balanced enough to avoid falling prey to hypersensitive auto-immune maladies and allergic syndromes such as depression, paranoia, monomania, apathetic paralysis, agoraphobia, and various & sundry related Bad Trips.

Unfortunately, I can't grow a healthy immune system for anyone else's awareness but my own.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RDR, I pretty much agree with you. The sheep are going to be sheep until they're bitten once too often. However, I for one, need to be aware of these warnings to build that immune system you mentioned. Not all warnings are equally valid, but you ignore them at your own peril.

This particular one is certainly not unexpected, and is often discussed as an almost certain policy practice. This just nails it down tighter. It's an age old game anyway: watch the shiny in my hand and pay no attention to the man behind you, and where his hands might be.

Do you know of a way of developing said immune system without cataloging the scams?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that cataloging the scams is necessary. But it's also imperative not to get over-involved in it. Hypochondria is not what needs to be inspired here. And hypochondria is often associated with spending too much time reading medical encyclopedias, to the point of neglecting things like exercise and sunshine. Which can, in turn, lead to a state of actual ill health.

Cultivating the first principles of health is much, much more important than knowing every detail of the array of potential sicknesses.

This is particularly true in the case of psychological operations...if the mere possibility of being targeted by them begins to preoccupy someone to the point where their energy is sapped by obsession and suspicion, they've achieved a partial success simply through the ceding of agreement to their claims of power and efficacy.
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