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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:20 pm    Post subject: Cousin of 9/11 "hijacker", an Israeli Spy Reply with quote

Lebanese in Shock Over Arrest of an Accused Spy

Ali al-Jarrah

MARAJ, Lebanon — For 25 years, Ali al-Jarrah managed to live on both sides of the bitterest divide running through this region. To friends and neighbors, he was an earnest supporter of the Palestinian cause, an affable, white-haired family man who worked as an administrator at a nearby school.

To Israel, he appears to have been a valued spy, sending reports and taking clandestine photographs of Palestinian groups and Hezbollah since 1983.


Now he sits in a Lebanese prison cell, accused by the authorities of betraying his country to an enemy state. Months after his arrest, his friends and former colleagues are still in shock over the extent of his deceptions: the carefully disguised trips abroad, the unexplained cash, the secret second wife.

Lebanese investigators say he has confessed to a career of espionage spectacular in its scope and longevity, a real-life John le Carré novel. Many intelligence agents are said to operate in the civil chaos of Lebanon, but Mr. Jarrah’s arrest has shed a rare light onto a world of spying and subversion that usually persists in secret.

Mr. Jarrah’s first wife maintains that he was tortured, and is innocent; requests to interview him were denied.

From his home in this Bekaa Valley village, Mr. Jarrah, 50, traveled often to Syria and to south Lebanon, where he photographed roads and convoys that might have been used to transport weapons to Hezbollah, the Shiite militant group, investigators say. He spoke with his handlers by satellite phone, receiving “dead drops” of money, cameras and listening devices. Occasionally, on the pretext of a business trip, he traveled to Belgium and Italy, received an Israeli passport, and flew to Israel, where he was debriefed at length, investigators say.

At the start of the 2006 war between Israel and Hezbollah, Israeli officials called Mr. Jarrah to reassure him that his village would be spared and that he should stay at home, investigators said.

He was finally arrested last July by Hezbollah, which now has perhaps the most powerful intelligence apparatus in this country. It handed him to the Lebanese military — along with his brother Yusuf, who is accused of helping him spy — and he awaits trial by a military court.

Several current and former military officials agreed to provide details about his case on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss it before the trial began. Their accounts tallied with details provided by Mr. Jarrah’s relatives and former colleagues.

It is not the family’s first brush with notoriety. One of Mr. Jarrah’s cousins, Ziad al-Jarrah, was among the 19 hijackers who carried out the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, though the men were 20 years apart in age and do not appear to have known each other well.

Mark Regev, a spokesman for Israel’s prime minister, Ehud Olmert, declined to discuss Mr. Jarrah’s situation, saying, “It is not our practice to publicly talk about any such allegations in this case or in any case.”

Villagers here seemed incredulous that a man they knew all their lives could have taken money to spy for a country that they regard with unmixed hatred and disgust.

Many maintained his innocence. But Raja Mosleh, the Palestinian doctor who was his partner for years in a school and health clinic near here, did not.

“I never suspected him before,” Dr. Mosleh said. “But now, after linking all the incidents together, I feel he’s 100 percent guilty.”

“He used to talk about the Palestinian cause all the time, how he supported the cause, he supported the people, he liked everybody — this son of a dog,” Dr. Mosleh added, his voice thick with contempt.

Mr. Jarrah would often borrow money to buy cigarettes, apparently posing as a man of limited means. Investigators say he received more than $300,000 for his work from Israel.

Only recently did he begin to spend in ways that raised questions. About six years ago, neighbors said, he built a three-story villa with a terra-cotta roof that is by far the grandest house in this modest village of low concrete dwellings. Outside is a small roofed archway and a heavy iron gate, and on a recent day a German shepherd stood guard.

Dr. Mosleh asked him where he got the money, and Mr. Jarrah said he got help from a daughter living in Brazil. It is a natural excuse in Lebanon, where a large portion of the population receives remittances from relatives abroad.

Mr. Jarrah also had a secret second wife, according to investigators and his former colleagues. Unlike his first wife, Maryam Shmouri al-Jarrah, who lived in relative grandeur with their five children in Maraj, the second wife lived in a cheap apartment in the town of Masnaa, near the Syrian border. This apparently allowed Mr. Jarrah to travel near the border in the unremarkable guise of a local working-class man.

Mr. Jarrah has said he was recruited in 1983 — a year after Israel began a major invasion of Lebanon — by Israeli officers who had imprisoned him, according to investigators. He was offered regular payments in exchange for information about Palestinian militants and Syrian troop movements, they said.

After Israel withdrew from Lebanon in 2000, thousands of Lebanese from the occupied zone in the south were tried and sentenced — mostly to light prison terms — for collaborating with Israel.

Far from the border, a different class of collaborators, rooted in their communities, persisted. A few have been caught and sentenced.

Mr. Jarrah’s motives remain a mystery. He said he tried to stop, but the Israelis would not let him, investigators said.

It all came to an end last summer. He went on a trip to Syria in July, and when he returned he said he had been briefly detained by the Syrian police, his first wife said. He seemed very uneasy, not his usual self, she said.

He left the house that night, saying he was going to Beirut, and never returned, Mrs. Jarrah said. Only three months later did she get a call from the Lebanese Army saying it had taken custody of him.

A few weeks ago, Mrs. Jarrah said, she was allowed to see him. He looked terrible, exhausted, she said.

Lebanese security forces released a photograph of Mr. Jarrah, taken before his arrest. In it, he appears against a blue and white backdrop, dressed in a formal dark shirt, wearing an enigmatic smile.

Hwaida Saad contributed reporting from Beirut, Lebanon, and Ethan Bronner from Jerusalem.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/world/middleeast/19lebanon.html
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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THIS POST DOESN'T COUNT B/C IT'S TOTALLY SPECULATIVE. Consider it a plot for a novel.

Three possible 9/11 operative teams:

One recruits real Islamists, or subcontracts their recruitment, or assembles patsies to look like the real thing, or tracks them, manipulates them or otherwise constructs the trail of hijackers.

One arranges and follows the events of the day in the air and necessarily involves or arranges the chain of command AWOL and the air defense circumvention. Since this is the network most ensconced within the government itself, I would expect the job of circumventing advance uncovering of the plot, losing the warnings, blocking things at Alec Station and Able Danger and the FBI is also centered here. (Pure intuition.) I would also expect this to be the approximate location of the full-operation executive and witting chief sponsors or planners.

The third, about which I am agnostic (since it's not necessary to the motives of the overall plot), is busy at the World Trade Center.

Afterward it's on the front-side officials to see to the cover-up, and to the media to predictably follow its conditioning.

If I had to guess what entities these three teams come out of in a game of "gun to your head," currently these guesses would be: 1) a nexus of spooks in subcontract to the No. 2 category, drawing from networks including Mossad and ISI; 2) a network around Cheney and Rumsfeld with experience in CoG exercises, Iran-Contra and Bush mob activities going back to the Safari Club, who understand themselves as constituting part of the permanent national security state, whether in or out of office; 3) (if) a small unit from a private military contractor or special forces under tight command, with a maintenance contract or security clearance for the Towers.

The operative commanders of the whole will be someone with Iran-Contra chops (and several miles of resentment at the rest of the world for being a bunch of com-symp surrender monkeys). Today, on a lark, I hereby pick Poindexter and North.

Now that I've solved 9/11 yet again, I'm off to lunch. (Color that ironic. Sorry!)

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack, your speculation sounds entirely credible to me, based on what I know of the situation.

Here, to add speculation on top of speculation is my added question:

If patsies were indeed part of this, to what degree, if any, were bonafide "mind control" techniques a part of the scenario? Who is running those ops and how do they run them?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good hypothesis, JR.

Tarpley's historical false-flag model of:
> Dupes
> Moles
> Mechanics
...follows that model of specialization and compartmentalization, too.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Back from sushi and wishing to apologize for the speculative outburst.* (HMW see note below.) After all, this is a very interesting story and worth a good search for all other stories on it. What I found for a start is a few about the breaking Lebanon spy arrests, not Jarrah.

Jarrah was arrested last year, apparently - why NYT suddenly interested?

What was the brother's role? How well did they know their nephew? Was that the extent of the Israeli penetration of the family, or the village?

Is this guy going to turn into a crown witness? Will his case be a big cause for Hizbollah, or Iran?

What's the relation to the other arrests, and the other localities mentioned in the reports (Nabatiyeh as opposed to Maraj, see stories below)?

I can easily see a swirl of 9/11 speculations -- well-founded or not -- bringing the issue back, perhaps encouraging other developments. For what it's worth, the public Iran-Contra revelations and limitation scandals started with a story out of the Beirut Star.

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Jewish Telegraph Agency
http://jta.org/news/article/2009/02/19/1003113/lebanese-arrest-man-on-spy-charges

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Lebanese arrest man on spy charges

February 19, 2009

WASHINGTON (JTA) -- Lebanese authorities reportedly arrested a man on charges of spying for Israel.

Marwan F., a gas station proprietor, was arrested in Nabatiyeh, a southern town in Lebanon that is a stronghold of the Hezbollah terrorist movement, Al Akhbar, a Lebanese newspaper reported this week.

According to the newspaper, Israel recruited Marwan F. in Paris in the mid-1990s to report on the movement of Hezbollah militiamen and on its bases.

Marwan F. is the latest in a number of alleged Israeli spies arrested in recent years in Lebanon.

Ali and Yousef al-Jarrah, two brothers who lived in the Bekaa Valley, remain in custody for spying as far back as 1983, when Israel allegedly recruited Ali al-Jarrah after he was imprisoned briefly by Israeli forces during the first Lebanon war.


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XINHUA

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-02/19/content_10850989.htm

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Hezbollah adopts security changes after arrest of Israeli agent

www.chinaview.cn 2009-02-19 18:07:46

BEIRUT, Feb. 19 (Xinhua) -- Lebanese Shiite armed group Hezbollah has reportedly made security changes after a Lebanese Shiite was arrested from south Lebanon town of Nabatieh on charges of spying for Israel, Al-Balad daily reported Thursday.

Quoting a source close to Hezbollah, the daily said that the party adopted "new security measures."

The Lebanese army announced on Feb. 16 that Marwan Faqih was arrested in south Lebanon and is in the army custody.

News reports said that Faqih is believed to have started collaborating with Israeli intelligence since he was recruited in France in 1990.

Al-Akhbar daily, close to Hezbollah, said that Faqih was assigned to collect information about Hezbollah, and owned a gas station in the area, which helped him in his task.

Security sources said that official charges have not been filed against him, however, the case is still pending before the military prosecutor.

Two Israeli agent networks have been discovered in the last two years in Lebanon, and the Lebanese army intelligence has carried out several arrests.

Israel and Hezbollah fought a devastating 34-day war in 2006, and are on a high state of animosity.


http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/news/article_1460476.php/
Hezbollah_updates_security_after_suspect_caught_spying_for_Israel_

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Hezbollah updates security after suspect caught spying for Israel
Middle East News


Feb 19, 2009, 14:52 GMT


Beirut - The Lebanese Shiite movement Hezbollah has adopted 'extraordinary security changes,' in light of the recent discovery and arrest of a man suspected of spying on the group for Israel since the mid-1990s, a Lebanese security source said Thursday.

The source, who did not want to be identified, confirmed the measures, as reported earlier in the Lebanese daily Al Balad, but gave no details.

The changes were a reaction to the movement's detection and detention of suspected spy Marwan Faqih by Hezbollah in January. The car dealer allegedly began spying on Hezbollah in the mid-1990s for Israel's Mossad intelligence agency.

The paper said that Hezbollah detained Faqih in January and on Monday handed him to Lebanese army intelligence.

According to a judicial source, no formal charges have been filed against Faqih.

Hezbollah's new security measures reportedly went into effect on February 16, after it handed Faqih over to the army.

According to the source, Faqih owned a gas station and was known for his close links with Hezbollah.

The source said Faqih is believed to have been recruited by Mossad in France and assigned the task of gathering information on Hezbollah for the Israeli agency through transactions in which he sold cars to the leaders from the movement.

Al Balad reported that Faqih was discovered when a car he sold to a Hezbollah official underwent repairs for electrical problems and found to have been fitted with a tracking device connected to a satellite.

Al Balad said Faqih was highly respected by Hezbollah officials and known for his generosity and donations to the movement.

The paper reported that a similar device might have contributed to the February 12, 2008 death of Hezbollah military commander Imad Mughaniyeh in the Syrian capital, Damascus.

Israel and Hezbollah fought a devastating 33-day war in 2006 that was sparked by a cross-border raid carried out by fighters from the Shiite movement.


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Found via google news, currently not accessible:

Lebanese man admits spying for Israel
Kazinform, Kazakhstan - 6 hours ago
MARAJ. February 19. KAZINFORM A supposedly earnest Palestinian supporter and family man in Lebanon has confessed to being a long-time spy for Israel, ...

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Naharnet (Lebanon)

http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/0/192C804097D954F0C2257562002759BC?OpenDocument

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Hizbullah Makes Security Changes Following Arrest of Israeli Spy

Hizbullah has reportedly made swift security changes following the arrest of a Lebanese man from the southern town of Nabatiyeh on suspicion that he spied for Israel.

The daily Al Balad on Thursday, quoted sources close to Hizbullah as saying that the Shiite group adopted new security measures since Feb. 16 when the Lebanese army announced it arrested Marwan Faqih.

Local newspapers had said that Faqih is believed to have collaborated with Israel's Mossad intelligence agency after being recruited in France in the mid-1990s.

Al-Akhbar newspaper said he was tasked with gathering information about Hizbullah, which fought a devastating 34-day war with Israel in 2006.

No formal charges have been filed against him and the case is still pending before the military prosecutor, a security official had said about Faqih.

Al Balad said Faqih, an automobile dealer, owned a gas station in Nabatiyeh.

It said he was highly respected by Hizbullah cadres in the region and had good links with the party's leaders, particularly since the man's generosity and donations for the Resistance contributed to having additional confidence in him.

Faqih had placed the gas station to serve the Resistance on many occasions, according to Al Balad.

The sources said Faqih was also accredited as a Hizbullah automobile agent.

How was Faqih uncovered?

"It was by mere chance that the Faqih network was discovered," one source close to Hizbullah told Al Balad.

He said as an auto electrician was busy repairing an electrical malfunction inside one of a U.S.-made four-wheeler belonging to a Hizbullah cadre, he laid eyes on an "unfamiliar device" attached to the vehicle's electric network.

At the beginning the electrician thought the device could have been placed by the vehicle's owner. He thought it was necessary to draw the attention of the car owner due to the connection between the malfunction and the device.

The car owner was surprised and a massive search for devices attached to Hizbullah cars was launched, according to the source, particularly after finding out that the device was a wiretap detector connected to satellite.

Dozens of Hizbullah vehicles were discovered to have been fitted with the same device and it became known that one thing was common: The car dealer, Marwan Faqih.

Hizbullah has reportedly arrested Faqih in January 2009, Al Balad said, adding that it had no independent confirmation of this report despite earlier official military confirmation that Faqih is in army custody.

Al Balad cited some reports as saying that as many as 12 people have been arrested by Hizbullah in connection with the Faqih network.

The daily concluded its report by asking whether top Hizbullah commander Imad Mughniyeh was killed while driving one of Faqih's cars.

Beirut, 19 Feb 09, 09:07


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http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=1&article_id=99404

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Army picks up Nabatiyeh man accused of spying for Israeli intelligence
By Andrew Wander
Daily Star staff
Tuesday, February 17, 2009


BEIRUT: The Lebanese Army has arrested a man accused of spying for Israel in the southern town of Nabatiyeh, according to a report in a Beirut newspaper. Al-Akhbar daily said that the owner of a petrol station, identified only as Marwan F, was arrested at the beginning of February after spending months under military surveillance. He is reported to have confessed to gathering information for Israel's Mossad intelligence service.

The report says that Marwan was recruited by Mossad while living in France during the mid-1990s. He was assigned the task of gathering "information on the resistance, including the movement of its members, their headquarters and military bases," according to a security source contacted by the paper.

He was also asked to provide intelligence about the Lebanese Army.

It is unclear whether any of the information was used by Israel to carry out attacks on Lebanese targets during this time, the paper said.

According to the report, Marwan used a secure internet connection and special encryption software to transmit data to Israel without attracting the attention of the Lebanese security services.

The alleged spy travelled to France frequently, where he reportedly received instructions and payment for his information. He is also believed to have visited Israel on four occasions for communications training, before returning to Lebanon to carry out his tasks.

Marwan owns a petrol station in Nabatiyeh, a Hizbullah stronghold, and he is reported to have made several approaches to the party and its members. He handed control of the station to Hizbullah during the summer 2006 war, permitting them to use it as they required.


He allegedly "cut his links" with Israel during the fighting, during which 1,200 Lebanese, mostly civilians, were killed by a devastating Israeli offensive.

The newspaper said that Hizbullah had been involved in his capture, and raised the possibility that he worked with accomplices, quoting Nabatiyeh residents who said that several people had mysteriously left the country when Marwan was arrested, although the paper's source refuted this.

The alleged spy is believed to have been paid substantially less than other informers employed by Israel in Lebanon. In 2006 Mahmoud Rafa'a was arrested in Sidon, accused of planning and carrying out a series of assassinations on behalf of the Jewish state. A search of his property revealed him to be in possession of sophisticated espionage equipment, including secret cameras, forged documents and bomb-making materials.

Last year Ali and Yousseff al-Jarrah, two brothers from the Bekaa Valley, were swooped on by security services after providing photographs and other sensitive information to Israeli intelligence agents running a Mossad-backed spy ring that had been operating in Lebanon for more than 20 years without detection.

Accurate intelligence about Hizbullah is notoriously difficult for Israel to obtain because of the group's strict disciplinary code and the popular support it enjoys in its areas of operation.

A security source contacted by The Daily Star was unable to comment on the case, saying only that they were aware of the Al-Akhbar report.


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NOTE TO HMW

As for the mention of Tarpley, I'll defer to Ruppert's verdict: "Add... Webster Tarpley, a former senior researcher for Lyndon LaRouche—whose intellectual capacity far exceeds his street smarts—and you have what the world now 'sees' as the only real threats to the US version of events." His brilliance on theory is marred by the strong urge to push insupportable thesis on a bad factual basis, like the Bush/Angel nonsense at the center of his book, or, more significantly, the unforgivable Kennebunkport hatchet job on both peace movement leaders and 9/11 truth activists, in alliance with the likes of Barrett and Nico Haupt.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

American Dream wrote:
Jack, your speculation sounds entirely credible to me, based on what I know of the situation.

Here, to add speculation on top of speculation is my added question:

If patsies were indeed part of this, to what degree, if any, were bonafide "mind control" techniques a part of the scenario? Who is running those ops and how do they run them?


Really, I don't ask myself that kind of question since I wouldn't know how to explore it effectively. Someone's recollection that someone had a glassy-eyed look won't do. If you can show me a diploma from the Institute of Psychological Studies that turns out to be an MK front, or something like that...

But meanwhile:

It interests me more to show evidence that the alleged hijackers and especially those identified as ringleaders and pilots were under continuous surveillance by multiple US and allied agencies years beforehand. I know it's getting old, but I went into that here:

Able Danger Roundup
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050830191215604

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Conclusion

To review: German authorities fed the CIA information about the Hamburg cell. Without telling the Germans, the CIA independently observed the Hamburg cell in Germany, at least until Atta and al-Shehhi left for the United States. Once they were in the United States, Able Danger identified Atta and al-Shehhi and was blocked from passing their names to other agencies. The Mossad knew about them, and passed their names to the CIA. The CIA was on the tail of Almidhar and Alhazmi before they came to the US, and spied on them at the Kuala Lumpur conference that supposedly initiated the 9/11 attacks. That pair stayed in San Diego with an FBI informant, but the FBI says it didn''t know. They were only put on the general watch-list in August 2001. On Sept. 11, the FBI immediately knew which flight schools to visit to pick up the trail of Atta & co. Finally, the FBI timeline suggests Atta was in two places at once in the spring of 2000.

No matter where Mohamed Atta went, someone was spying on him. But the official story would have us believe each of these surveillances was an isolated incident, and that the failure to stop 9/11 was due to a series of oddities, coincidences and close calls, with no pattern behind it all except for bureaucratic intransigence.

Now recall the long-known accounts of how FBI officials at the Islamic Radicals Unit prior to Sept. 11 actively obstructed and killed field investigations that could have led to the alleged 9/11 perpetrators. (See links to stories here.) Add in the stories of high-level foreign intelligence warnings from various countries, including specific information that the United States would be attacked using hijacked planes directed against prominent targets. Add the widespread knowledge that 9/11 was imminent among individuals who tried to warn the United States, and the reports of insider trading based on prior knowledge of the 9/11 events.

There is an explanation for these facts that is simpler than the official theory of luck for the hijackers and stupidity in government. The alternative hypothesis holds that a network ensconced within multiple US and allied foreign agencies was aware of the alleged 9/11 plotters'' movements, and acted to protect them by blocking information flows and suspending investigations.

The motive may have been to shield a covert operation that was using the men, whether they knew about it or not. (A military spokesperson once said that five of the alleged 9/11 hijackers including Atta shared names with men who trained at US military bases, and in its subsequent denials the Pentagon provided no further clarification on who the trainees might have otherwise been.)

Or else the motive may have been to allow the 9/11 plot to succeed, as a necessary sacrifice to launch "The New American Century." Or else the motive was to protect the patsies and dupes who would later be blamed for the Sept. 11 attacks, if in fact the entire plot was orchestrated by elements within the US and allied government from the go.

The obvious possibility that the failures were intentional, and that the alleged hijackers were not just lucky but living under a protective veil, has never been raised by official investigations, the 9/11 Commission, or the corporate media. Why not?


Follow-up here:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060302155139342

Other stuff that interests me wrt the alleged hijackers includes: where they're getting money from (ISI and UAE connections), why that isn't of interest to the 9/11 Com, what they're doing on their many travels, who they're meeting, why one of them has 18 aliases and how are we supposed to know which one he is and, above all, evidence of doubles (as in "The Two Ziad Jarrahs" and JohnDoeII's work at Team8+ despite that being a Nico outfit). Also, all the seeming planted evidence like Atta's two bags, and one of them has a complete list of all the hijackers?! Etc. etc.

But I think the point of attack for cracking open 9/11 as a case is at the AWOL chain of command, foreknowledge, wargames, evidence of planning, etc. and in the cover-up. (Others think they've got the thermite matter sealed and proved, and I can only wish them luck.)

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Yeah. Too bad 8bitagent isnt here anymore to butt in Smile
But I agree with JackRiddler.
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Penguin wrote:
Yeah. Too bad 8bitagent isnt here anymore to butt in Smile
But I agree with JackRiddler.

me, too
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seems like a good thread to kick on Sept. 12, 2009.

I like my own posts, anyway. Wink
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Fuck 9/11. Whatever falsehoods and injustice crying out for correction that Troofers discover has been consigned to the scrapheap of history for the LaRouchites and fabulists to turn to shit. So forget about it.

And what with the Obamacons in office now we have a crowd of ascendant elites less interested in resorting to violence. The neocons and their retarded-ass president are gone. Done with. Over. Ollie North and John Poindexter are too fucking old to get involved in anymore pernicious shit. The "Traders" and their soft-touch Friendly Fascist asshole crowd of paternalistic libertarian policy wonktards with their program of In The Future You Will Enjoy Working Harder For Even Less Pay Because You Have An iPhone have taken power away from the militant fascist hawk Arrest The Pinkos and Bomb The Village To Save It crowd, who had 30 years of ascendancy with Team Bush.
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Oh, and welcome back, JR
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nathan28 wrote:

And what with the Obamacons in office now we have a crowd of ascendant elites less interested in resorting to violence.

Really? You could have fooled me.




As far as the al-Jarrah revelation, it seems very interesting, especially since the whole Israeli spy-ring collapse seems to get bigger and bigger.

Debkafile has gotten into the act and is now claiming that the FSB (former KGB) were the ones that Hezbollah hired to catch the spies.

http://intelligencenews.wordpress.com/2009/08/05/01-206/
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smallprint wrote:
nathan28 wrote:

And what with the Obamacons in office now we have a crowd of ascendant elites less interested in resorting to violence.

Really? You could have fooled me.




As far as the al-Jarrah revelation, it seems very interesting, especially since the whole Israeli spy-ring collapse seems to get bigger and bigger.

Debkafile has gotten into the act and is now claiming that the FSB (former KGB) were the ones that Hezbollah hired to catch the spies.

http://intelligencenews.wordpress.com/2009/08/05/01-206/


Thanks for pointing that out--I had qualified that statement by saying "in the hegemonic Homeland" but see I failed to use copy-and-paste correctly.
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