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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:13 pm    Post subject: Canadian/US Zionists Define "Anti-Semitism" Reply with quote

Radical Digressions
Ulli Diemer’s Notebook

Tactics of desperation: Using false accusations of ‘anti-Semitism’
as a weapon to silence criticism of Israel’s behaviour

December 27, 2009


For more than 60 years, Israel has engaged in a unceasing campaign to dispossess Palestinians of their land and their rights. Its ability to do this has depended on three factors in particular:

* overwhelming military superiority;
* keeping public opinion, especially in North America and Europe, on its side;
* making ordinary working-class Israeli Jews believe that it is in their interest to support Israel’s Zionist elite rather than making common cause with ordinary Palestinians.

Israel’s military dominance is unchallenged, thanks to unconditional support and limitless supplies of advanced military technology and equipment provided by the United States and its allies (including Canada). However, military dominance has not been able to achieve Israel’s ultimate goal: forcing Palestinians to stop resisting and to acquiesce in their dispossession and oppression. Israel’s relentless onslaught has been met by equally determined Palestinian resistance which, despite the odds, steadfastly refuses to accept the injustice of occupation.

This Palestinian resistance has called into being an ever-growing international network of support and solidarity. In dozens of countries and hundreds of communities around the world, organizations and movements have emerged to demand that Israel be made to adhere to international law and to basic principles of justice.

Israel and its supporters see these international campaigns as a huge threat. Israel has escaped the sanctions that have been applied to other states which commit human rights abuses and violate international law only because the United States automatically vetoes all attempts to hold Israel accountable. Israel is also crucially dependent on huge annual inflows of foreign aid, to the point where it is conceivable that the state would collapse if the flows of outside cash which prop it up were to be withdrawn.

Anything that undermines public support in the U.S., Canada, and Europe, therefore, threatens the external backing on which the Israeli state depends for its very existence. It is true that the governments which turn a blind eye to Israel’s violations of international law mostly ignore popular opinion in their own countries as well, but this could change if support for Israel were to become a serious political liability. In this regard, what is particularly worrisome from Israel’s point of view is the fact that support for Israel among Jews in the United States and Canada, especially among younger Jews, has declined dramatically. If Jews stop supporting Israel, then all foreign support is in jeopardy.

Threats to Israel’s international legitimacy bring with them an even greater internal danger: the danger that Israeli Jews will themselves start seeing the Zionist formula – in essence, a militarized apartheid state holding down the Palestinian population by force – as a dead end.

If working-class Israeli Jews were to see their interests as being different from those of the ruling elite – if they come round to the view that their long-term interests will be better served if they join Palestinians in working for a democratic secular state with equal rights for Palestinians and Jews – Israel’s ruling class would find itself in the same untenable position that the white elite in apartheid South Africa faced in the early 1990s. Already, Israel’s rulers are debating what to do about the ‘demographic threat’ they are facing: Israeli Jews are leaving the country in increasing numbers to move to other countries, while the Palestinian population continues to increase.

The Palestinian resistance, and the growing international support which it has attracted, have had a substantial effect in changing the way Israel is perceived. Increasingly, international public opinion is no longer willing to turn a blind eye to ethnic cleansing, house demolitions, systematic humiliations, imprisonment, torture, and the indiscriminate killing of civilians, children as well as adults.

Faced with the erosion of its credibility and support, the Israeli state has lashed out by using ever-increasing repression against the non-violent Palestinian resistance. One of the centres of this resistance is the village of Bil’in, which has been fighting the expansion of an illegal Israeli settlement on its land with weekly non-violent protests for more than five years now, protests which have turned Bil’in into an international symbol of non-violent resistance. The Israeli state has been using ever more extreme tactics of harassment and brutality to attempt to crush the village and put an end to the protests, which it correctly believes are causing substantial harm to Israel’s international image. Similar tactics of harassment and imprisonment are being used against other Palestinians who resist, as well as against Jewish Israelis and international solidarity activists who support the Palestinian cause.

At the same time as it attempts to crush internal resistance, the Israeli state, aided by its supporters in the United States and Canada, has launched extremely aggressive and well-financed propaganda campaigns abroad whose goal is to counteract the decline in support for Israel.

A telling characteristic of these campaigns is that they by and large do not focus on attempting to justify Israel’s behaviour. One has to assume that the architects of the propaganda efforts realize that it is no longer possible to explain war crimes and human rights abuses in a way that the international public will accept.

Instead, the focus has shifted to attempting to shut down criticism of Israel by targetting the most outspoken critics with crude smear tactics and outright censorship.

On a growing number of campuses, for example, this has involved harassment and firing of outspoken professors (e.g. Norman Finkelstein, Joel Kovel), as well as attempts to ban events such as ‘Israeli apartheid week’.

In Canada, we are now seeing an attempt to silence criticism of Israel by labelling all such criticism as ‘anti-Semitism’ and therefore as hate speech. This tactic has a triple purpose: to suppress public awareness of what Israel is doing; to discredit critics by smearing them as ‘anti-Semitic’, and to keep Jews onside by frightening them with the spectre of anti-Semitism.

In Canada, the Harper government, fanatically pro-Israel, is fully involved in this effort. It has cut funding to groups which have supported Palestinians in their quest for justice, and it has set up a Parliamentary body charged with coming up with the legal rationale for making it illegal to criticize Israel.

If the Harper government is successful in getting its way, statements such as the following, all of them expressions of generally accepted principles of human rights and international law, will henceforth be classified as anti-Semitic hate speech in Canada:

‘A state must be the state of all its citizens.’

Saying this will be classified as ‘anti-Semitic’ because it implies that the Israeli state has a duty to serve and represent all of its citizens equally, Palestinians as well as Jews.

‘Everyone born in a state, and everyone who has been a permanent resident for a specified and reasonable period of time, is entitled to citizenship.’
Saying this will be classified as ‘anti-Semitic’ because it would mean that Palestinians under the rule of the Israeli state have the right to be citizens of Israel.

‘All citizens of a state must be equal under the law, equally entitled to the rights, privileges and responsibilities of citizenship. A state may not favour, or discriminate against, citizens, on the grounds of religion, ethnicity, or race.’
Saying this will be classified as ‘anti-Semitic’ because it implies that Israel has to dismantle its discriminatory, apartheid-style system of laws.

‘Every state must accept its internationally recognized borders and must renounce all claims on territory outside of its borders.’
Saying this will be classified as ‘anti-Semitic’ because it would mean that Israel would have to stop seizing land beyond its borders.

‘All states must abide by international law, including the Geneva conventions, laws against collective punishment, laws against torture, etc.’
Saying this will be classified as ‘anti-Semitic’ because it implies that Israel has to stop engaging in ethnic cleansing, collective punishment, and other violations of international law.

‘Refugees have a right to return to the lands from which they were expelled by an invading army or occupying power.’
Saying this will be classified as ‘anti-Semitic’ because it means that the Palestinian refugees expelled from their homeland by Israel must be allowed to exercise their right of return as guaranteed by international law.

‘Sanctions should be applied to those who violate international law.’
Saying this will be classified as ‘anti-Semitic’ because it implies that Israel should face sanctions for engaging in collective punishment and ethnic cleansing, for practicing torture, for committing war crimes, for defying UN resolutions and World Court rulings, and for other illegal acts.

The attempt to outlaw criticism of Israel by labelling it as ‘anti-Semitism’ is a serious threat which needs to be exposed and challenged. At the same time, it should also be recognized as a tactic of desperation, a tactic that has become necessary because of the ever-growing opposition to the crimes of the Israeli state.

The resort to increasingly blatant open repression is a symptom of loss of control. In the past such tactics would not have been necessary because any criticism of Israel was confined to the outer fringes of public debate. Now it has become mainstream, and those who support an ethnically defined, apartheid-style Israeli state are feeling increasingly threatened. Those of us who support a democratic secular state should feel encouraged, even though the struggle is far from won.

Ulli Diemer
December 27, 2009

http://www.diemer.ca/Docs/RadicalDigressions6.htm#December272009
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After I got seriously involved in researching 9/11 I became a target for their attacks. I was tombstoned at DU for my 'antisemitic' posts and I have the email from Lithos to prove it.

And at PI my avatar was changed to when I was banned by the zionists trolls who have taken it over.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoYouEverWonder wrote:
After I got seriously involved in researching 9/11 I became a target for their attacks. I was tombstoned at DU for my 'antisemitic' posts and I have the email from Lithos to prove it.

And at PI my avatar was changed to when I was banned by the zionists trolls who have taken it over.


You'll run into the same thing at all the "liberal" blogs. There's a gang who will jump you if you criticize Israel and accuse you of being antisemitic or a nazi or whatever. It's crazy.

Knowing that Israel hires people to do exactly this you'd think would make people fight back at those tactics a little harder. But no, your basic "liberal" doesn't want to offend anyone, oh gosh no, fighting is not in the lexicon for liberals these days. Don't you dare offend the bad guys!

There's also the notion that the I/P issues are "too hot to touch". Emotions run so high there, don't even bother jumping in. Right? That's how they work, they amp up the emotional outbursts so much and things get so immediately nasty that people just want to stay away from the issue.

Hell, I fell for that for years and years! "Oooh, these people hate each other so much it's not even worth looking into the issue. I'll divert my attention elsewhere."

It was Israel's slaughter in Lebanon a couple of years ago that woke my ass up. When you actually look into it there's an extremely clear picture of what is going on. The whole "it's really complicated, you couldn't possibly understand it" falls to the wayside almost immediately.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nordic wrote:
There's also the notion that the I/P issues are "too hot to touch". Emotions run so high there, don't even bother jumping in. Right? That's how they work, they amp up the emotional outbursts so much and things get so immediately nasty that people just want to stay away from the issue.

Hell, I fell for that for years and years! "Oooh, these people hate each other so much it's not even worth looking into the issue. I'll divert my attention elsewhere."


That's really the point: to keep people in the Western 'democracies' under the impression that what's happening "over there" has nothing to do with you, and that the whole thing is just too much trouble. Even though you're paying for it in so many ways. Not just with unbelievable amounts of money, but with your increasing disenfranchisement from governments that are much more accountable and responsive to the demands of a rapacious, militaristic foreign state than to their own citizens' needs.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This video becomes on-topic at around the 3.30 mark, and has some astonishing statements after that point from the Canadian Jewish Defence League spokesman. I would imagine Alice will have seen this before (actually, I think Alice posted it before) but it's well worth seeing.

It's worth watching rght from the start, actually - but 3.30 is when the chips get thrown down in astonishing fashion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAm7rfHKSyY

"We will be looking into these organisations in Canada that have invited him [George Galloway] .... We will see to it that the Canadian government will be monitoring every individual and every organisation that has anything to do with it."

The guy's threats are not wholly believable, of course, because his own org is silly, and listed as a terrorist organisation itself - so he was vastly overstating his real sway with the Canadian government.

But the mindset of threatening to monitor every individual and organisation involved in inviting a .... a guy... who was coming to speak is quite repulsive. And a bit hilarious.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the F has happened to Canada? They held Amy Goodman at the border, also. Like she was some kind of "evildoer".

The same goddamn people behind all the shit. They managed to get to Canada also.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AOL said:
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...hilarious.


I wish there were something even mildly hilarious about the JDL, but there isn't. I personally had some problems with them many years ago, when I was a student activist -- they're truly sick people: dumb, violent, mentally unbalanced bullies who literally get away with murder merely by cloaking themselves in Jewish victim-hood.

The JDL was founded by Rabbi Meir Kahane in the late 1960's mainly as an anti-Black vigilante group to bully and terrorize African-Americans who had the temerity to move into "Jewish neighborhoods" in New York. Later, in the early 1970s, Kahane was hired by the FBI to drum up support for the Vietnam War among Jewish Americans. At the same time, his activities were secretly being coordinated by Irgun terrorist and future Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Shamir, who used him and his JDL to plant bombs and otherwise terrorize Soviet embassy personnel and Soviet cultural events like performances of the Bolshoi ballet. In 1985, the JDL used a pipe-bomb to murder Alex Odeh, of the Arab-American Anti-Discrimination Committee in California. They were known for using physical violence to 'punish' individuals who stood up for Palestinian rights, including Jews. Eventually, this small-time hood moved to Israel where he became a messiah-like figure and even after his assassination in the early 90s continues to inspire the sickest elements in the Jewish state to acts of unbelievable savagery against Palestinians and others, including firebombing Christian churches and bookstores in Jerusalem, and plotting bomb attacks against Palestinian school-children.

It is a very serious mistake to dismiss the JDL as "silly". Though Kahane himself was a not very bright con-man, plagued by crippling rage and delusions of grandeur, and his JDL was mostly comprised of misfits and losers, they have proven to be a very potent weapon in the hands of much more powerful forces who, while publicly disassociating themselves from them, have always found them very useful as shock troops and 'cut-outs'.

Seeing the representative of the "JDL" on Canadian tv, not just being treated as a legitimate representative of Canadian Jews, but arrogantly claiming the right to decide who can and who cannot be allowed into Canada, is nothing short of surreal. It exposes how profoundly Canada is being transformed, largely below most people's radar, because this would have been literally inconceivable only a few years ago. Even when it was illegal, the JDL has always received huge financial donations and unconditional support from supposedly respectable Jewish businesses and individuals (including Reuben Mattus, the founder of Haagen-Dazs ice-cream, and comedian Jackie Mason, among others) and covert support from Israeli and elements within American intelligence. Based on this guy Weinstein's unbelievably arrogant attitude, evidently Canadian intelligence has been infiltrated as well, not so surprising given the fanatic zionism of the Harper government and its creepy incestuous relationship with the zionist entity.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a long running scam. And I actually fear, it is as long running as at least the 1940s.

Many, many a human suffered. But this is somehow different innit? It is yet again a "hot potato". No one can touch this shit insofar as it has already been touched and defined as "anti-semitism".

The world calls for empathy of all entities!

Yay, right?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AhabsOtherLeg wrote...
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The guy's threats are not wholly believable, of course, because his own org is silly, and listed as a terrorist organisation itself - so he was vastly overstating his real sway with the Canadian government.


I'm not so sure about this. Terrorist orgs. can be used for many purposes and govts. are the biggest users.

Fact is, users and their terrorists get the TV time and not you, Alice or I.
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