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Mexico demonstrations off the map!

Postby anothershamus » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:10 pm

Whatever happened to the contested mexico elections? The urgent news of the middle east has swept aside the important news of the demonstrations in Mexico. The Mexican demonstrations could have been a template for our upcomming elections (Nov '06). Now we will have forgotten what happened, unless there is a civil war down there. <p></p><i></i>
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Is there a Spanish Babblefish in the house?

Postby greencrow0 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:03 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/noticias.html">www.eluniversal.com.mx/noticias.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I keep checking this website, unfortunately, my spanish leaves a lot to be desired...Does anyone know how to babblefish this?<br><br>GC <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Is there a Spanish Babblefish in the house?

Postby starroute » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:05 am

For Babelfish, just go to <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://babelfish.altavista.com/">babelfish.altavista.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> and enter the URL.<br><br>There was also this story yesterday -- not even directly connected to the elections, but showing that things are definitely heating up down there.<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://peacejournalism.com/ReadArticle.asp?ArticleID=9820">peacejournalism.com/ReadA...cleID=9820</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>MEXICO: Gunmen attack university radio station<br><br>New York, July 24, 2006 - The Committee to Protect Journalists condemns an attack by gunmen on a university radio station in Oaxaca, southeast Mexico, which has backed efforts to oust the local state governor.<br><br>At least 10 men in ski masks sprayed bullets at Radio Universidad on the evening of July 22 as it was on the air, Mexican and international media reported. Nobody was hurt in the attack. The gunmen rode in four vehicles with Mexico City license plates.<br><br>Francisco Javier Merino, a reporter for the station at the Universidad Autónoma Benito Juárez de Oaxaca, told CPJ that staff dove for cover as the attackers drove around the buildings firing at the offices and antennas. María del Carmen López Velasquez, who was broadcasting at the time, made an on-air appeal for help before the transmission was cut.<br><br>Merino said the gunmen left as neighbors arrived. Staff recovered more than 50 bullet casings.<br><br>"We condemn this vicious attack on Radio Universidad," said CPJ Executive Director Joel Simon. "We urge Mexican authorities to conduct a thorough investigation and bring those responsible to justice."<br><br>A teachers' strike over pay in Oaxaca has sparked a wave of antigovernment protests. After Oaxaca state governor Ulises Ruiz Ortiz ordered police to disperse protesters with tear gas on June 14, many groups joined the protests. Radio Universidad has been demanding the governor's resignation since then. López said that unidentified individuals have called the radio several times, threatening to kill reporters if the station continued its calls for the governor's resignation. Governor Ruiz's office condemned the attack, The Associated Press said.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=starroute>starroute</A> at: 7/25/06 11:06 pm<br></i>
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Huge rally challenges Mexico poll

Postby greencrow0 » Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:51 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5229762.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5229762.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Huge rally challenges Mexico poll <br><br>Hundreds of thousands of people have taken to the streets in Mexico to support the left-wing candidate in the disputed 2 July presidential elections. <br>"Hold on, the people are rising," they chanted as they marched to Zocalo, Mexico City's main public square. <br>Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador is seeking a full recount of the vote which saw him lose to conservative Felipe Calderon by half a percentage point. <br>The Federal Electoral Institute has until 31 August to decide. <br>The dispute has paralysed Mexican politics, correspondents say. <br>A president-elect must be declared by 6 September to replace Vicente Fox on 1 December. <br>'Filthy' poll<br> <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>This was the third - and the largest - protest by Mr Lopez Obrador's supporters to press their demand for a recount.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>Holding banners that read "No to fraud", and wearing T-shirts <br>with the image of their candidate, they made clear they would not give in until a vote-by-vote recount was authorised. <br>"The elections were filthy," said Maria Teresa Priego. "We are here to support a humble man, a hard-working man." <br> <br><br>Other voters were more belligerent. <br>"We will take drastic measures. We will blockade airports, we will take over embassies," threatened Sara Zepeda, 32. <br>The official count gave Mr Calderon 244,000-vote victory over his opponent - out of 41 million ballots cast. <br>The leftist candidate says there is evidence that vote counts were rigged at about half of the country's polling stations - but European Union observers have said they found no irregularities. <br>Mr Calderon has rejected calls for a recount, describing the election as "clean, free and democratic". <br><br><br>====================<br><br>If it was 'the largest' demonstration, that means there must have been well over a million people...because the last one had over a million demonstrators.<br><br>Go Obrador! Go Mexico! Teach those fraudsters a lesson!<br><br>GC                <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Huge rally challenges Mexico poll

Postby starroute » Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:59 pm

Some of the blogs earlier were saying 2.4 or 2.5 million. I haven't seen any confirmation of that yet, though. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Mexico demonstrations off the map!

Postby BannedfromDU » Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:01 pm

Mexico leftists occupy capital in election protest<br><br>MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - A fiery leftist who says he was robbed of victory in Mexico's presidential election set up protest camps to paralyze the heart of the capital on Sunday after hundreds of thousands of people marched to demand a vote recount.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060730/pl_nm/mexico_election_dc_3;_ylt=AjstZdouc_QVXsQ.Fvmjt5RjKsMA;_ylu=X3oDMTA5bGVna3NhBHNlYwNzc3JlbA--">news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060...Nzc3JlbA--</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060730/i/r1773076802.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060730/capt.c2979dc24e2d430ea00482e0a1d19902.mexico_elections__momu103.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060730/capt.30ac48f91b364c81b7e01823d5886efe.mexico_elections_moam102.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20060730/capt.sge.ahj98.300706213938.photo00.photo.default-512x341.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060730/capt.7ef2ca5030044e29a3a55edb101db733.mexico_elections_moev109.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060730/i/r3424448084.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060730/i/r1036730793.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060730/capt.4053470d99744e668dec139f56a12641.mexico_elections_moam107.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060730/i/r2183708568.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><br><br>And one for the guys.... <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060730/i/r1723673696.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><br><br><br>SLIDESHOW-<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/events/wl/062706mexicoelection;_ylt=AhMSTV50u716CVuQ4h4tKjUb.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTA3bGk2OHYzBHNlYwN0bXA-">SLIDESHOW LINK</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>==========<br><br>By MARK STEVENSON, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 59 minutes ago<br>MEXICO CITY - Leftist candidate Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador called Sunday for hundreds of thousands of his supporters to erect permanent protest camps to cripple Mexico's capital until a disputed presidential election is decided.<br><br>Addressing about a half-million marchers filling the city's historic central plaza and spilling down fashionable Reforma boulevard, Lopez Obrador said, "I propose we stay here permanently until the court resolves this ... That we stay here day and night."<br><br>If Lopez Obrador supporters heed his call, blockades could have a catastrophic effect on already chaotic city traffic, hurting downtown commerce.<br><br>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/mexico_elections;_ylt=AkqoJtyCzOnZy1SjadK...CaK8MA;_ylu=X3oDMTA5bGVna3NhBHNlYwNzc3JlbA-- <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Mexico demonstrations off the map!

Postby greencrow0 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:47 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5230972.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5230972.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Obrador and his followers are setting up tent in Mexico's main square. They vow to stay there until the re-count is started.<br><br>This is what happens when you try to take democracy away from informed and committed citizens.<br><br>GC <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Mexico demonstrations off the map!

Postby Seamus OBlimey » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:05 pm

Thanks for the reminder anothershamus, this should be a lesson to all western readers here. And not just those that read cowboy books <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Those are amazing pix Banned, thanks. It looks like the Mex have made their minds up and refuse to be diverted. I just hope things run smoothly, and with Marcos in town there's hope, until the people get what they deserve.<br><br>Here's something I found while looking for more info..<br><br>I think the date's wrong and June should read July.<br><br>-----------------<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>MEXICO: "La Nueva Revolucion" may start tomorrow</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>by <br>Ernesto Cienfuegos <br>La Voz de Aztlan<br><br>Los Angeles, Alta California - June 7, 2006 - (ACN) Mexicans on both side of the border are very apprehensive about the future. The collective destiny of the Mexican people is presently in the hands of a few politicians in Mexico City and Washington D.C. What occurs tomorrow at "El Zocalo" in Tenochtitlan may determine the fate of the Mexican people, and possibly of all Latin America, for many generations to come. <br><br>Aztlan and Mexico are presently facing two major uncertainties. The first is the crisis that has arisen from the July 2 election of the next Mexican president and the second is what the US Congress will legislate concerning immigration reform. The fate of tens of millions of Mexicans is at stake. The huge marches and rallies that occurred in the USA by hundreds of thousands of Mexican and other Latino immigrants in March and May of this year could be dwarfed by what could occur in Mexico if a "Bush type" electoral scam is uncovered tomorrow by socialist candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador at El Zocalo and Mexicans take to the streets seeking justice. <br><br>Andrés Manuel López Obrador of the Partido Revolucionario Democratico (PRD) has already objected to a large number of irregularities that he said occurred during the counting of the votes by the Instituto Federal Electoral (IFE). The IFE is charged with conducting elections in Mexico but it is staffed by mostly people from the ruling and conservative Partido Accion Nacional (PAN). The IFE has officially declared that the PAN candidate Felipe Calderón won the election by a mere .57 percentage point. This is after Andrés Manuel López Obrador had led in the polls and after he had led in the actual count 36.48 % to Calderón's 34.78 % up to when 85.76 % of the total votes cast had been counted. Suddenly the IFE and the media went silent and in the end, the IFE reported that Calderon was ahead in the count by a very small margin. Approximately 42 million Mexicans voted in the July 2 elections. <br><br>Historical records indicate that the PRD was cheated in the 1988 presidential elections by the then ruling Partido Revulocionario Institucional (PRI) and the people vowed, at that time, that it will never happen again. The PRD candidate Cuauhtemoc Cardenas was also leading in the count by a comfortable margin when suddenly the computer system used to count the votes mysteriously crashed. When the computers came back on line, Carlos Salinas de Gotari of the PRI, like Calderon did during the current election, jumped in front of the PRD candidate and declared president. <br><br>Cuauhtemoc Cardenas, in order to avert violence and a political crisis, conceded defeat and he urged his followers to do the same. It does not appear that Andrés Manuel López Obrador will do the same. He has urged his followers to congregate at El Zocalo tomorrow at 1730 hours. Considering that one of his major supporters , Subcomandante Marcos of the Zapatistas, is in town, makes the demonstration tomorrow a particular volatile one. Also, the brutal PAN government repression of campesinos at Atenco on May 3 and 4 of this year is still fresh in the minds of many in Mexico City. In addition, there is presently an insurrection occurring against the state government of Oaxaca and university students throughout Mexico and at the UNAM are organizing and are planning protests against what they perceive to be fraudulent presidential elections. <br><br>There is great potential that a new Mexican revolution will commence tomorrow at El Zocalo. If Andrés Manuel López Obrador lits the "spark" tomorrow or soon after, the events that will be unleashed will have great repercussions for us here in Aztlan and for the USA. There will be a huge unstoppable flood of Mexican immigrants coming across the border. Twenty thousand national guardsmen and border patrol agents would not be sufficient to stop the hundreds of thousands of new immigrants that will be joining their brethren on this side of the border. If this occurs, we here in Aztlan, will have the moral responsibility to assist and to help these political refugees in every way possible.<br><br>-----------------<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.aztlan.net/la_nueva_revolucion.htm">La Voz de Aztlan</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Viva La Nueva Revolucion! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Mexico demonstrations off the map!

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Re: Mexico demonstrations off the map!

Postby StarmanSkye » Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:34 pm

"This is what happens when you try to take democracy away from informed and committed citizens." -- GC<br><br>Indeed! This is a helluva inspiring development. I imagine the White House criminals are anxiously following these events and hope they are sweating bullets. Mainstream media for the most part seems to be diligently doing their best to bury, slant and/or distort the Mexican vote-protest demonstrations as an insignificant, trivial aberration -- but if they continue with huge numbers participating, this will become harder and harder to do.<br><br>It also seems as if the Mexican public is a lot more savvy in fully appreciating what the stakes here really are, and committed to organizing and acting to demand an end to the charade of 'self-rule' government in which the status quo and powerful special interests have usurped legitimacy in order to maximize their criminal conspiracies and corruption, graft, kickbacks, wholesale theft, protected rackets, etc., unchallenged.<br><br>Viva La Revolution!<br>Power to the People!<br>Kick out the Jams, Muthafucka!<br>Where the People are United They will NEVER Be Defeated!<br><br>Starman<br>******<br><br>More, and an update on the Mexican people's determined effort to reclaim their citizen-led democracy (somewhat biased, critical 'poll' results included implying majority of public considers Obrador and his followers can't be trusted to refrain from violence -- likely an assumption artifact due to how the 'poll' was conducted; Certainly most Mexicans are painfully aware of the police and paramilitary's propensity for gratuitous violence against non-violent citizens -- so who's kidding who? ie., included for US PR 'management' purposes, to delegitimize Obrador and the protesters? "Bizzness as Usual". Let's hope a New Day of Truth, Social Justice and Decency is Dawning in Mexico, eh? Perhaps to filter north and encourage us.)<br><br>***<br>Protesters set up barricades in Mexico City <br>By Kevin Diaz & David Ovalle <br><br>McClatchy Newspapers <br><br><br>MEXICO CITY - Thousands of protesters set up barricades along Mexico City's central thoroughfare Sunday night hours after the largest demonstration in Mexico's history filled the main square in support of leftist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador's election challenge. <br><br><br>Police made no effort to intervene as the protesters set up tents and blocked traffic, apparently in response to Lopez Obrador's call for the establishment of 47 "permanent assemblies" to press his claims of fraud in the July 2 elections. Lopez Obrador lost the vote to conservative Felipe Calderon by less than 1 percent of 41 million ballots cast. <br><br><br>Protesters at one of the barricades on the Paseo de la Reforma said they would remain there until a federal tribunal hearing Lopez Obrador's challenge orders a recount of every ballot. <br><br><br>The street action comes amid mounting tensions in the post-election dispute and was the first sign that Lopez Obrador's supporters intended to take their protests beyond organized mass rallies. <br><br><br>The blocking of Reforma, a giant boulevard that stretches across Mexico City's central corridor, came after a record 1.2 million gathered by midday in the Zocalo, the city's historic central square, to hear Lopez Obrador. <br><br><br>The gathering - the third such rally since the election results were announced - was smaller than the 2 million Lopez Obrador had promised two weeks ago, when he brought together 1.1 million followers. <br><br><br>But police said it was the largest demonstration in Mexico's history, and analysts said it was enough to lend momentum to Lopez Obrador's case, which currently is being considered by Mexico's federal election tribunal, which must declare a winner by Sept. 6. <br><br><br>"The electoral tribunal has to rule independently, but they have to be aware of public opinion," said John Ackerman, a law professor at the National Autonomous University of Mexico. <br><br><br>Lopez Obrador told the crowd he wouldn't hold another mass march. Instead, he called on his supporters to organize "permanent assemblies" to hold around-the-clock vigils throughout the city until the tribunal rules. <br><br><br>He vowed that the assemblies would be "disciplined and respectful," though he did not rule out potential civic disruptions, for which he apologized in advance. <br><br><br>"We will be here until we have a recount of the votes that gives us a legitimate president," Lopez Obrador told the cheering crowd. <br><br><br>While he was proposing the encampments, he said, it would be up to his followers to decide how to carry them out, a posture that seemed to distance him from any possible trouble. <br><br><br>"We are here in peace," said Basilio Martinez, one of the tent dwellers setting up on the Paseo de la Reforma, shortly after darkness fell. "We don't have written permission from the police, of course, because they can't give it to us. But they are not intervening." <br><br><br>Sunday's march came as lawyers for Calderon's National Action Party, or PAN, met with the tribunal's seven members to discuss the case. On Saturday, Lopez Obrador's representatives met with the justices. <br><br><br>"Not only is the presidency at stake, but so are the rights of the people," Lopez Obrador said at the rally. "It's not a lot to ask for a new count of the votes. That would calm the country and assure stability." <br><br><br>The massive rally and the private judicial proceedings - no one from the public was allowed to monitor the justices' meetings with the two camps - <br>mapped a week of increasing friction during the post-election dispute. Both sides have declared victory. <br><br><br>The candidates amped up the rhetoric Wednesday - Lopez Obrador declared himself "president of Mexico," while Calderon's camp said Lopez Obrador is bordering on "messianic." <br><br><br>The spectacle on Sunday proved every bit as colorful and noisy as two previous Lopez Obrador marches. <br><br><br>Marchers whacked empty water jugs with sticks, a man atop a truck wore an oversized paper Lopez Obrador head, and a giant TV screen broadcast live protest shots set to throbbing electronic music. <br><br><br>\Selling coffee mugs bearing Lopez Obrador's portrait, street vendor Maria del Carmen Silvestre, 32, said he remains the best hope for the nation's poor. <br><br><br>"Calderon won't do anything for us," she said. "With Lopez Obrador we will get work and we will survive." <br><br><br>Lopez Obrador arrived at the packed square aboard a motorcade that had passed down the Paseo de la Reforma, where a statue of Cuauhtemoc, the last Aztec emperor, was draped with a huge banner that read "At your orders, Mr. <br>President." <br><br><br>People carried signs bearing the likeness of Mexico's first indigenous president of Mexico, Benito Juarez. <br><br><br>One young woman dressed in white hung from a wooden crucifix. Her yellow sash read "Democracy." <br><br><br>"We're a very Catholic country. It's Mexican idiosyncracy," said university professor Guadalupe Rodriguez, 48. "But it doesn't mean (Lopez Obrador) is messianic. It's a form of expression." <br><br><br>Despite Sunday's massive turnout, a poll published Sunday showed concerns over Lopez Obrador's movement. <br><br><br>The poll, sponsored by the Reforma newspaper, showed that 58 percent of Mexicans don't believe Lopez Obrador when he says he'll respect the decision of the electoral court. Fifty-seven percent believe his protest campaign could spark violence. <br><br><br>Also, 59 percent said they believe he has acted "irresponsibly" since the July 2 elections, compared to 28 percent who said the same of Calderon. <br><br><br>Ovalle reports for The Miami Herald. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/world/15160108.htm">www.mercurynews.com/mld/m...160108.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Mexico demonstrations off the map!

Postby dugoboy » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:56 pm

hope somebody can save their democracy.. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT." -Me<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell</p><i></i>
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Re: Mexico demonstrations off the map!

Postby BannedfromDU » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:10 pm

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Women Seize TV Station in Oaxaca, Mexico</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>By REBECA ROMERO, Associated Press Writer<br>Wednesday, August 2, 2006<br><br>08-02) 11:59 PDT OAXACA, Mexico (AP) --<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>About 500 women banging spoons against pots and pans seized a state-run television station and broadcast a homemade video Wednesday that showed police kicking protesters out of Oaxaca's main square last month.<br><br>The women took control of Oaxaca's Channel 9 station Tuesday and held employees for about six hours before releasing them. It was unclear how long the siege would last and police were nowhere to be seen near the station Wednesday.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>The standoff is the latest by demonstrators who accuse Gov. Ulises Ruiz of rigging his 2004 election victory and violently repressing opposition groups.<br><br>Station director Mercedes Rojas said the state has filed a criminal complaint with the federal attorney general's office, noting that the station has about $54.5 million worth of equipment inside and that the protesters had threatened the 60 employees with violence while holding them captive.<br><br>Federal officials have not commented on the standoff.<br><br>Tensions have been on the rise since June, when state police attacked a demonstration of striking teachers occupying the historic central plaza and demanding a wage increase.<br><br>Since then, thousands of teachers, unionists and leftists have camped out in the plaza, spray-painting buildings with revolutionary slogans, smashing hotel windows and erecting makeshift barricades. Most businesses remain closed.<br><br>The unrest has paralyzed one of Mexico's top cultural attractions, where visitors to the southern city normally browse traditional markets for Indian handicrafts, hike ancient pyramids and stroll cobblestone streets to sample mole dishes. Officials recently canceled a prominent cultural festival because of fears that violence could injure tourists and residents.<br><br>Tourism is down 75 percent, costing the city more than $45 million, according to the Mexican Employers Federation. Business leaders have asked the federal government to intervene, but aides to President Vicente Fox have said the problem must be resolved at the state level.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfgate.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Farticle.cgi%3Ffile%3D%2Fnews%2Farchive%2F2006%2F08%2F02%2Finternational%2Fi115940D96.DTL%26type%3Dprintable">***LINK***</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Mexico demonstrations off the map!

Postby greencrow0 » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:22 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5249276.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5249276.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Electoral Committee only sanctions partial re-count</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Gee, I wish I knew what was going on in Mexico re the recent 'election'. No sense going to the MSM and I can't read spanish.<br><br>GC <p></p><i></i>
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Mexican Tribunal Rejects Demand for a Recount

Postby greencrow0 » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:43 pm

Yet another Electoral Fraud<br>from the NYT <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Mexican Tribunal Rejects Demand for a Recount</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/06/world/americas/06mexico.html?hp&ex=1154836800&en=670e4cac9dbe4175&ei=5094&partner=homepage">www.nytimes.com/2006/08/0...r=homepage</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>“….Leonel Castillo, the chief judge of the electoral tribunal, defended the integrity of Mexico’s electoral system in general, pointing out fraud was nearly impossible because citizens chosen at random and trained to be poll workers were responsible for counting the vote on election night. <br><br>“Citizens provide the certainty of the computation process,” he said. “This is the method and the way that the law makes the elections certain.”<br><br>Other judges echoed his view, rejecting Mr. Lopéz Obrador’s contention that there was a plot among poll workers in some states to pad his opponent’s totals. <br><br>“The election method is ingenious,” Magistrate Mauro Miguel Reyes Zapata said. “It’s ingenious, and we can assume it is secure, because it is the citizens who carry it out and organize it.”<br><br>But there was apparently still a chance that a further recount could be ordered. Lorenzo Cordova, a law professor who specializes in election law, said the court could order a recount of more polling places later on if the recount this week reveals signs of fraud…”. <br><br>====================== <br><br>The NYT depends on the naivete of its [mostly American] readership...of course, the citizens can scrutinize and count the vote at the polls all they want...but it is after the numbers are reported to the 'media electoral counters' that the fraud takes place. <br><br>Who do the electoral scrutineers report their results to? To Electoral companies run by Mainstream Media owned by globalists and neoCons. <br><br>This is where the 'twigging' of the vote count takes place. <br><br>This is where the fraud takes place in Mexico, in America, in Canada, and all over the so-called democratic world<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Who's Twigging the Vote on Election Night?

Postby greencrow0 » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:04 pm

In order to ensure the legitimacy of the election, cut out the middleman...the mass media electoral 'counting machine'...who ever let them into the process anyway? <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> What right and by who's authority does a private corporate enterprise have to handle the public vote?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>There must be a bi-partisan committee where the reporting of the local polling stations is directed. This committee must operate in full view of the public on TV on election night as they take calls and then write on a board the numbers as they come in.<br><br>Then the public can see for itself how the numbers are breaking down over election night....<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>No more of this rolling numbers appearing, as if by magic, on the bottom of our TV screen, unverifiable and computed...BY WHO?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=greencrow0>greencrow0</A> at: 8/5/06 4:05 pm<br></i>
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