Mexico leftist [Obrador]claims election recount proves fraud

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Mexico leftist [Obrador]claims election recount proves fraud

Postby greencrow0 » Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:44 am

from rawstory.com<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Mexico leftist claims election recount proves fraud</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>By Frank Jack Daniel | August 11, 2006<br><br>MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexico's opposition leader said on Friday a partial recount of votes from the presidential election he narrowly lost has shown so many errors that the top electoral court will have to declare him president-elect.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, the leftist who claims he was robbed in the July 2 election, said the recount of 9 percent of ballot boxes was only half complete but inconsistencies from the original tallies already topped 100,000 votes.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Conservative candidate Felipe Calderon won by 244,000 votes, or 0.58 of a percentage point, and his ruling party says the recounts are showing only minor changes in the results.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>But Lopez Obrador, a fiery former mayor of Mexico City, said more than 40,000 votes had surfaced inside some ballot boxes and 60,000 disappeared from others.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>He wants results annulled at those polling stations with the biggest irregularities. Many of them are in areas where Calderon won convincingly.<br><br>"What happens if the court applies the law and annuls those polling stations with grave irregularities? Well, the result is different," Lopez Obrador told thousands of supporters in Mexico City's vast Zocalo square on Friday night.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"So even with their own numbers ... they have to recognize that we won the presidency," he said.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Lopez Obrador's supporters have crippled central Mexico City for the past 12 days by setting up camps in the Zocalo and on the main boulevard that runs through its business district.<br><br>Their campaign also has included blockading the stock market building, the headquarters of international banks and government offices, as well as throwing open highway toll gates. They blocked access to Mexico's main tax office on Friday.<br><br>CALDERON WAITS<br><br>Calderon insists the vote was clean and believes the electoral court will soon name him president-elect. He called on Friday for an end to the marches.<br><br>"Mexico will not advance with handouts, with tricks or with tension," he told a meeting of factory owners. "Mexico will advance with the work of all Mexicans. Let's get to work."<br><br>The protests were stepped up after the electoral court last week ordered the partial recount of votes, rather than the full count being demanded by Lopez Obrador.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The recounts must be completed by Sunday. The court is then expected to decide whether or not to annul some results and order thousands more ballot boxes reopened</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Lopez Obrador warned he would not give up his fight even if the electoral court rules against him, while senior aides pressured the court to annul some results.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>"These arithmetical inconsistencies are emphatic proof of fraud," said Horacio Duarte, a senior aide to the leftist.<br><br>Saying his street protests were in the tradition of peaceful civil resistance, Lopez Obrador called on foreigners to press for a recount of all 41 million votes.<br><br>"In the spirit of Gandhi and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., we seek to make our voices heard," he wrote in Friday's New York Times.<br><br>Mexico's financial markets fear a long-running political crisis but have so far shrugged off the street demonstrations.<br><br>The peso currency rose 0.75 percent on Friday, buoyed by news that Mexico will prepay $9 billion of debt with international lenders. The stock market was up 1.13 percent.<br><br>==================<br><br>No wonder there were two earthquakes in Mexico City today!<br><br>GC<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Mexico leftist [Obrador]claims election recount proves f

Postby Gouda » Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:32 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"Mexico will not advance with handouts, with tricks or with tension," [Calderon] told a meeting of factory owners. "Mexico will advance with the work of all Mexicans. Let's get to work."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Disculpe Senor Calderon, but the Mexican people <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>are </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->working. (Not sure about those factory OWNERS.) <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gouda@rigorousintuition>Gouda</A> at: 8/12/06 3:34 am<br></i>
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Postby trachys » Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:24 am

Maybe he means, "Let's get to work making all Mexicans work for US!" <p></p><i></i>
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MEXICAN STANDOFF

Postby greencrow0 » Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:03 pm

from sploid.com<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.sploid.com/news/2006/08/mexican_standof.php">www.sploid.com/news/2006/...tandof.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>MEXICAN STANDOFF</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Mexico held its presidential election more than a month ago, but the crooked contest is far from settled.<br>Supporters of Mexico City's former mayor, the populist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, seized the capital nearly two weeks ago and took dramatic new measures on Tuesday.<br>That's when masses of protesters took over toll-road booths all around the giant city, letting everyone enter for free. While the symbolic seizure of government facilities will hardly bankrupt Mexico, the steady unrest has already hurt the national currency and stock market.<br><br>Mexico's election commission has reluctantly began recounting paper ballots from a small fraction of the 130,000 polling station -- only 9% will get a second look.<br>But even a total recount wouldn't address the widespread reports of ballot-box stuffing by conservative candidate Felipe Calderon's henchmen, or the hundreds of ballot boxes found dumped in landfills on Election Day.<br><br>Exit polls showed Obrador winning by a small but solid margin of 1.1% while the day's vote totals favored Obrador right up until the final hours.<br><br>Investigative journalist Greg Palast, who was in Mexico City for the election, describes the bizarre scene in Tuesday's Guardian:<br><br>"The nation's tens of thousands of polling stations report to the capital in random order after the polls close. Therefore, statistically, you'd expect the results to remain roughly unchanged as vote totals come in. As expected, Obrador was ahead of the right-wing candidate Calderon all night by an unchanging margin -- <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>until after midnight. Suddenly, precincts began reporting wins for Calderon of five to one, then ten to one, then as polling nearly ended, of a hundred to one."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Calderon claimed total victory with his shady 0.6% lead, and his compadre George W. Bush rushed to congratulate the pro-Washington conservative.<br><br>Protests aren't limited to the capital city. In Oaxaca, ongoing labor protests have merged with the Obrador cause. Protesters have taken over the historic town beloved by tourists, paramilitary gunmen have attacked a student radio station supporting the cause, and travelers have stayed away in droves.<br><br>The Oaxaca standoff became even more tense this month as <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>protesters have blockaded all government buildings for 10 straight days.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Some 300 heavily-armed federal police arrived Monday, NarcoNews reported.<br>And approximately 20 smaller Oaxacan towns around the state capital are holding similar actions, with city halls and government ministry bureaus all closed off by the angry crowds.<br><br>Reporter John Gibler describes the cosmetic differences between the Oaxaca and Mexico City movements:<br>"In Oaxaca -- a city also currently under a siege of civil resistance -- thousands of protestors sleep out in the streets on cardboard boxes under sheets of plastic; leaning against walls, they read the paper, knit and talk amongst each other as they occupy the town square and shut off access to state government buildings. But in the AMLO encampment protestors gather to watch political documentaries on widescreen television sets, listen to blues guitar and protest songs at outdoor open-mikes fully equipped with professional sound systems, and even stand in line to take their turn riding an old-style Western mechanical bull."<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>But the party atmosphere may quickly fade if Mexico's famously corrupt political system awards the presidency to Calderon.<br><br>"Until now we have concentrated an important part of our protests in the capital, but in this new stage we are going to carry out actions all over the country," Guadalupe Acosta of Obrador's Democratic Revolution Party said Tuesday, according to AP.<br>"They will be coordinated, national actions with the same objective: that they open the boxes and count the votes."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Leftists teargassed in Mexico city

Postby greencrow0 » Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:56 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-08-14T232233Z_01_N28358335_RTRUKOC_0_US-MEXICO-ELECTION.xml&src=rss">today.reuters.com/news/ar...ml&src=rss</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Leftist lawmakers, protestors, teargassed in Mexico city<br><br>==========================<br><br>shows to go you what you have to do to win an election<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>after</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> you win an election these days.<br><br>gc <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Leftists teargassed in Mexico city

Postby professorpan » Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:13 am

Thanks for the updates, greencrow.<br><br>It's good to see democracy in action instead of democracy inaction. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Leftists teargassed in Mexico city

Postby Sepka » Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:31 am

Obrador's lucky he lives in Mexico instead of Venezuela. They throw you in prison for protesting there: <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4116323.html" target="top">www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4116323.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>-Sepka the Space Weasel<br><br>edit: corrected spelling <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sepka>Sepka</A> at: 8/15/06 1:32 am<br></i>
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Re: Leftists teargassed in Mexico city

Postby Dreams End » Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:22 am

Not only did Ortega play a major role in the coup against Chavez...he was booted out of Costa Rica for saying he was going to go back and do it again. <br><br>Not only that, his whole effort was funded by rich elites, hiding behind a gloss of working class movement, and the CIA. Hardly comparable.<br><br>In case you weren't joking when you posted that...a little more info:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>A report would appear two days later in the daily Panamá América newspaper that shed light on how oil union boss Carlos Ortega, the number-two coup organizer (among the Venezuelans involved) second only to oilman-turned-dictator-for-a-day Pedro Carmona, became head of the oil union and consequently of Venezuela's equivalent of the AFL-CIO.<br><br>Translated by The Narco News Bulletin:<br><br> "Months ago, we warned that the U.S. government had put a plan in march to topple Venezuela's president Hugo Chávez. Working with agents of the CIA and with members of the military group that the Pentagon maintains in Caracas to supervise U.S. arms sales in the region, the strategies from the Potomac joined forces with the opponents of the president. Bankers, businessmen and politicians donated funds to creat the marches and protest that detonated the crisis. Money from the opposition served to influence union elections and the control of the petroleum workers union, the most important in Venezuela…"<br><br>Narco News has learned that the CIA headquarters for organizing, distributing said cash, and engineering the attempted coup d'etat, was the office known as the MIL GROUP. That's the name by which the US Military Liason staff in Embassies - "usually a repository for fixers and grafters pitching Department of Defense sponsored weapons sales to third world satrapies," as one source colorfully explained to Narco News - had, according to another well-placed source, greatly increased its staff size in the weeks prior to the attempted coup.<br><br>We presume the increase in personnel - or individuals posing as personnel at the MIL GROUP - was not due to a sudden desire by Washington to sell more arms to the Chavez government.<br><br>Former National Security Agency officer Wayne Madsen, writing with Richard M. Bennett, reveal that the U.S. participation in the failed coup attempt was not only financial, but military. Reporting from the National Press Building in Washington, they have just blown the roof off of U.S. government denials of involvement in the coup with this Intelligence Report:<br><br> Under the cover of the COMPTUEX and a Joint Task Force Exercise (JTFEX) training exercises in the Caribbean the US Navy provided signals intelligence and communications jamming support to the Venezuelan military. Particular focus by US Navy SIGINT vessels was on communications to and from the Cuban, Libyan, Iranian, and Iraqi diplomatic missions in Caracas. All four countries had expressed support for Chavez and the plans for US military and intelligence support for the coup d'etat were brought upto date following President Bush's visit to Peru and El Salvador in March 2002. The National Security Agency (NSA) supported the coup using personnel attached to the US Southern Command's Joint Interagency Task Force East (JIATF-E) in Key West, Florida. NSA's Spanish-language linguists and signals interception operators in Key West; Sabana Seca on Puerto Rico and the Regional Security Operating Centre (RSOC) in Medina, Texas also assisted in providing communications intelligence to US military and national command authorities on the progress of the coup d'etat.<br><br> From eastern Colombia, CIA and US contract military personnel, ostensibly used for counter-narcotics operations, stood by to provide logistics support for the leading members of the coup. Their activities were centred at the Marandua airfield and along the border with Venezuela. Patrol aircraft operating from the US Forward Operating Location (FOL) in Manta, Ecuador also provided intelligence support for the military move against Chavez. Additional USN vessels on a training exercise in the Outer Range of the US Navy's Southern Puerto Rican Operating Area also stood by in the event the coup against Chavez faltered, thus requiring a military evacuation of US citizens in Venezuela. The ships included the aircraft carrier USS George Washington and the destroyers USS Barry, Laboon, Mahan, and Arthur W. Radford. Some of the latter vessels reportedly had NSA Direct Support Units aboard to provide additional signals intelligence support to US Special Operations and intelligence personnel deployed on the ground in close co-operation with the Venezuelan Army and along the Colombian side of the border.<br><br>The polemic in recent weeks in which the Narco-State government of Colombia (again, with NY Timesman Juan Forero as its press agent) accused the Chávez government of Venezuela of harboring Colombian rebels now seems particularly hypocritical given the confirmation that Colombian territory was used by US forces in the failed coup attempt. Also note that the cover for the anti-democracy military operation was "counter-narcotics operations" that "provide logistics support for the leading members of the coup."<br><br>In sum: the effort by US tax dollars to prop up Carlos Ortega as head of the oil union was intended, long ago, to provide a "working class" gloss for the Revolt of the Spoiled Brats. The oligarchy could not stand the fact that, for the first time, Venezuela had become a true democracy for the majority of its people who elected Chavez. Nor could it handle the reality that it was now seen by the Venezuelan majority for what it was: an oligarchy. So the corrupt union boss was brought in to provide a false image of class diversity.<br><br>Then the real expense to U.S. taxpayers (something especially timely to reflect upon on this date of April 15th) came in the form of a massive US military and intelligence operation.<br><br>But back to Thursday, for a moment: With the five TV chains running free advertisements every ten minutes urging the citizenry to join the march, the 40,000 member oil workers union, the National Chamber of Commerce and Industry, and the Catholic Church hierarchy pulling out all the stops to create the illusion of a popular revolt, they only got between 50,000 and 150,000 people into the streets of Caracas to protest against Chavez. (Caracas has more than two million citizens and Venezuela, 24 million.)<br><br>The demonstration, purportedly in support of the business-backed oil workers strike, was initially advertised to march to the state oil agency's offices.<br>But once the leaders - with the help of the TV stations (upset with Chavez, as we reported on Saturday, over having to pay taxes like any other business for the first time in their history) - had the crowd assembled, they switched the parade route and marched their own lambs to a pre-plotted slaughter.<br><br>The march - puny in size compared to the multitudes that would take to the streets to oppose the Coup in coming days - was detoured by the coup plotters to head to the presidential palace known as Miraflores, where several thousand supporters of the Chavez government were already assembled.<br><br>As universally reported by the English-language media - including the Four Horsemen of Simulation; AP, Reuters, the NY Times and CNN - shots were fired, between 10 and 30 people died, and another 100 or so wounded. The question of where those shots came from looms explosively.<br><br>Eyewitness in Caracas Greg Wilpert reported on Friday in an article for commondreams.org - and linked immediately by Narco News - that the majority of killed and wounded were Chavez supporters. Wilpert has subsequently reported that, now that the Constitutional government of Chavez is restored, he expects the list of martyrs to finally be released (interesting, how the coup never released the names of the dead), and the list will show that the majority of those killed were Chavez supporters. Wilpert also comments that he expects videotapes to be released in the coming days that show the true culprits behind the shooting provocation: an extreme anti-Chavez group titled "Bandera Roja."<br><br>But AP, Reuters, the NY Times, CNN and many other English-language media sources reported, without sourcing their claim, that the shots came from the Chávez government. They repeated that unsubstantiated speculation as fact over and over and over again. And White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer claimed that Chavez "ordered" the shootings. All of this will come out in the wash in the coming days. Suffice to say, the mainstream media got the story wrong, intentionally wrong, to blame violent acts by Chávez opponents on Chávez.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.narconews.com/threedays.html">www.narconews.com/threedays.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "Revolt of the Spoiled Brats"

Postby Gouda » Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:40 pm

Sepka, bad link. You probably meant to link to another little country most of us are much more familiar with, one where they throw <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>real</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> protesters into prison - and even some people just minding their own business. The "protester" you mention had his lil' picket signs designed by the CIA, NED, State Department, the American Center for International Labor Solidarity (CIA too) and Wackenhut. I just can't imagine what said country would do to similar "protesters" plotting chaos and coups against it with the caliber of friends Ortega enjoys. Whoops - these friends <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>do</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> also plot coups within this country - where they are duly promoted. <p></p><i></i>
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Taqueo'd and Saqueo'd

Postby Gouda » Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:46 pm

Al Giordano with the latest fraud update and the math...<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Mexico’s Partial Vote Recount Confirms Massive and Systematic Election Fraud<br><br>With Less than 9 Percent of Precincts Recounted, More than 126,000 Votes Are Found to Have Been Disappeared or Illegally Fabricated</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>By Al Giordano<br>Part V of a Special Series for The Narco News Bulletin<br><br>August 14, 2006<br><br>Finally, the hard numbers are starting to come in. In the “partial recount” of paper ballots from the July 2 presidential election in Mexico, ordered by the Supreme Electoral Tribunal (known as the Trife), the recount has been completed in 10,679 precincts of the 11,839 ordered by the court (about 9 percent of Mexico’s 130,000 precincts). From these precincts, Narco News has obtained the following preliminary numbers that confirm the massive and systematic electoral fraud inflicted on the Mexican people:<br><br> * In 3,074 precincts (29 percent of those recounted), 45,890 illegal votes, above the number of voters who cast ballots in each polling place, were found stuffed inside the ballot boxes (an average of 15 for each of these precincts, primarily in strongholds of the National Action Party, known as the PAN, of President Vicente Fox and his candidate, Felipe Calderón).<br><br> * In 4,368 precincts (41 percent of those recounted), 80,392 ballots of citizens who did vote are missing (an average of 18 votes in each of these precincts).<br><br> * Together, these 7,442 precincts contain about 70 percent of the ballots recounted. The total amount of ballots either stolen or forged adds up to 126,282 votes altered.<br><br> * If the recount results of these 10,679 precincts (8.2 percent of the nation’s 130,000 polling places) are projected nationwide, it would mean that more than 1.5 million votes were either stolen or stuffed in an election that the first official count claimed was won by Calderon by only 243,000 votes.<br><br> * Among the findings of this very limited partial recount are that in 3,079 precincts where the PAN party is strong and where, in many cases, the Democratic Revolution Party (PRD) of candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador did not count with election night poll watchers, one or more of three things occurred: Either the Federal Electoral Institute (IFE, in its Spanish initials) illegally provided more ballots than there are voters in those precincts, or the PAN party stole those extra ballots, or ballots were forged.<br>...<br><br>If the Trife follows the law and its own established precedents, and annuls the results in these 7,442 precincts where the fraud took place, it would reverse the official results and López Obrador would emerge the victor by more than 425,000 votes nationwide.<br><br>Specifically, Calderón would lose 1,225,326 votes from his tally, while López Obrador would lose just 556,600; a difference of 668,726. When factoring in IFE’s claim that Calderón has a more than 243,000 vote advantage, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>López Obrador would still win the election by those 425,000 votes plus some.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>More...</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.narconews.com/Issue42/article2010.html">www.narconews.com/Issue42...e2010.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Taqueo'd and Saqueo'd

Postby greencrow0 » Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:47 pm

Which is why the 'police' have gone into attack mode.<br><br>Watch for Mexico to go into 'martial law' because of the 'violence'.<br><br>gc <p></p><i></i>
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Reuters says court declared Calderone winner of election

Postby greencrow0 » Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:59 am

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Mexican court approves Congress vote results</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:14pm ET<br> <br>"MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexico's top electoral court rejected complaints about the July Congressional election on Wednesday, giving conservative candidate Felipe Calderon's party the largest stake in the legislature.<br><br>The electoral judges must declare a president elect by September 6 at the latest.<br><br>Leftist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador lost the July 2 presidential vote by a hair and his Party of the Democratic Revolution, or PRD, has challenged the result, alleging fraud.<br><br>His party had also contested some of the results of the Congressional election.<br><br><br><br>Calderon's ruling National Action Party will have 52 seats in the Senate, more than other parties but still short of a majority, the electoral court said.<br><br>The Institutional Revolutionary Party, which ruled Mexico for most of the 20th century, will have 33 seats in the Senate, and Lopez Obrador's PRD will have 28 seats.<br><br>The PAN will have 206 seats in the lower house, with 123 controlled by Lopez Obrador's PRD and 105 held by the PRI.<br><br>For more than two weeks, Lopez Obrador's supporters have protested the election result by camping out in Mexico City's giant Zocalo square, the symbolic center of political power in Mexico, and along the city's central Reforma Avenue.<br><br>But most experts expect Calderon, who won the vote by less than a percentage point, to eventually become president."<br><br>==================================<br><br>How come this was never reported in the MSM? I just saw it on rawstory.com.<br><br>does this mean it's over? Does anyone have any other reports on this?<br><br>gc<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Reuters says court declared Calderone winner of election

Postby Gouda » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:50 pm

Reuters is MSM, but I have also not seen much else besides that. Anyway, it is not over yet. This particular ruling, as I understand it, was in response to PRD's challenges to congressional election results. The election results for the presidency are another thing. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Reuters says court declared Calderone winner of election

Postby greencrow0 » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:56 am

Thanks Gouda<br><br>but note that the reuters article is confusing on that point.<br><br>gc <p></p><i></i>
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Updates?

Postby greencrow0 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:43 pm

Has anyone come across anything new on the Mexican electoral fraud issue over the weekend?<br><br>gc <p></p><i></i>
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