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has anybody else noticed during all this chaos...<br><br>that the symbol for New Orleans (especially the NOPD) is the same as the Shriners?<br><br>NOPD<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.vespaneworleans.com/piclib/115.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>NOPD Special Forces<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.zwpatch.com/images/police/louisiana_new_orleans_police_special_forces.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Shriners<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://owmg.org/graphics/Shrine/scimitar.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><br><br><br>Ab Ordo Chao...<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

Probably a pretty big overlap in Shriner/Masons and police. And the Fraternal Order of Police, even here in the bible belt, uses the ole pentagram as a symbol and calls their headquarters the "Grand Lodge" (just found that out.)<br><br>http://www.grandlodgefop.org/<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.deptfordfoplodge72.com/images/star.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Hey, look, there's that all seeing eye again. You know...I think it's winking at us. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dreamsend@rigorousintuition>Dreams End</A> at: 9/6/05 12:50 am<br></i>

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.theantechamber.net/">www.theantechamber.net/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I posted links to this site last night in relation to another thread. found myself looking at the symbol on the front page and thinking 'hmmm..'<br><br>never liked chess myself.<br> <p></p><i></i>

did you wink back?<br> <p></p><i></i>

I'm guessing that the star in the New Orleans symbol is for the Bonnie Blue Flag, an early Confederate flag. It was originally the flag of the Republic of West Florida in 1810, but was adopted by the Texas revolutionaries during their battle for independence, and later by the Southern Confederacy. <br><br>The Crescent, of course, is because New Orleans is called the "Crescent City". <p></p><i></i>

Guys, I hate to be the one to break it to you. Your country is run by Freemasons and Freemasonry These are people that swear blood oaths of loyalty to each other, but have no idea whom they serve. For example the Royal Arch degree requires an oath of silence "not excepting treason and murder".<br><br>Let's see if I'm wrong. Let's see how many "Democrats" quiz Roberts on secret blood oaths he may have sworn in the past. <p></p><i></i>

While I was in New Orleans a couple of years ago I went on one of the city history/culture walking tours in the French Quarter. The guide showed me a map of the city and explained that the source of the crescent in the city's emblem was the bend in the river that it was built upon. The star was from the original layout of the city itself, which he said was based on a pentagram. It was not nearly as obvious as the pentagram in the street layout of Washington D.C. <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1040.html">www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1040.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> But, if you are looking for it, you can see there is a certain symmetry in the street layout. <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.murrayhudson.com/antique_maps/us_state_maps/24112m.jpg">www.murrayhudson.com/anti...24112m.jpg</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The French Quarter was apparently spared from the worst of the flooding. <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475067/posts">www.freerepublic.com/focu...5067/posts</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> Guys, I hate to be the one to break it to you.......</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>oh i know whats up.... just im always amazed at the blatent flexing of symbolism..<br><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>While I was in New Orleans a couple of years ago I went on one of the city history/culture walking tours in the French Quarter. The guide showed me a map of the city and explained that the source of the crescent in the city's emblem was the bend in the river that it was built upon. The star was from the original layout of the city itself, which he said was based on a pentagram. It was not nearly as obvious as the pentagram in the street layout of Washington D.C. www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1040.html But, if you are looking for it, you can see there is a certain symmetry in the street layout. www.murrayhudson.com/anti...24112m.jpg</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>interesting. the CITY ITSELF may be the crescent & star....<br><br>wouldnt suprise me at all.... Paris & London (as well as D.C. & others im sure) have occult symbolism in their designs as well......<br><br>i recommend the book Talisman by Grahm Hancock for some interesting insight into that type of thing (although i dont really like his conclusions, the study is interesting)<br><br><br>anyone know what the obelisk in N.O. is? i keep seeing it from helicopter shots....<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

The star and the crescent is the old symbol of the Ottoman Empire and is used by some as an extension of Islam.<br><br>The scimtar of the Shriners is purely Islamic and the Pharaonic figure is a nod to Egypt as that is where Freemasonry originated in Sufi Islamic teachings.<br><br>The Shriners derive from the Mason but differ from them in certain respects - they were Fezes to signify the Ottoman aspect and their 'Temple' is the Ka'aba in Mecca rather than the temple in Jerusalem.<br><br>There is no doubt that the symbolism is purely Islamic and it is more likely that the 'Crescent City' appellation derives from this rather than the other way around.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

but it wasnt French Muslims who founded N.O. though no?<br><br><br>it seems to me that there is a mystery occult side to all religions.....<br><br>true indeed the Shriners have a heavy Islamic influence... buit what we are seeing here with the N.O. smbolism MUST be Masonic because like i said, im pretty sure it wasnt French Muslims who settled the region...<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

human,<br>Those damn Frenchies belong to the Grand Orient, not the Scottish Rite. Wrong lodge.<br>Much of the fighting going on behind the scenes is between these two lodges. <p></p><i></i>

Iroquois: I've been looking at that map and it is symmetrical, but I can't find any pentagram in there... <p></p><i></i>

welp, seems that Phillip, Duke of Orleans, whom New Orleans was named for, was Grandmaster of the Knights Templar in 1705..... supposedly..<br><br>makes sense.<br> <p></p><i></i>

DrDebugDU,<br><br>Sorry, I didn't state that quite the way I meant. In D.C. the pentagram is pretty clearly visible in the layout of the streets while in New Orleans, according to my guide, it was in the lines connecting key sites. The symmetry in the street layout sort of supported it, but you can't see it without knowing what the sites are. Unfortunately, I didn't at the time think to write down the site names. I was in laid back vacationing in NO mode, and he made it sound like such common knowledge I kind of assumed I could find the information easily later. Of course, he could have been wrong. But, he seemed pretty credible to me at the time. <p></p><i></i>

From anonymous poster at 8:18PM on Rigorous Intuition: The Last Refuge -<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>almost forgot, last night sept5, there was a black trucker telling his story on the ABC national nightly news, i only caught the gist of it, but he was reffering to where one of the levee's had busted, (9th ward?), he lived not far from levee and he swears he heard a loud boom when the levee broke, he quickly got his semi- and picked up some neighbors/friends, and made it to a bridge where they had been staying for days. He is convinced that that boom was actually sabatoge, he and his friends firmly bealive this, in that their take on it is that N.O. needed that break to not flood the French Quarter at the expense of that area of the city.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>This is what I hinted at in my previous post. The "they" we so often speak of here do sometimes seem to possess a certain sentimental nature. Or, perhaps, there are fortresses even they are not yet ready to assail. Those who founded New Orleans may not be who owns it now.<br><br>As horrible as the past week has been for the people of that city that I have not stopped thinking of as one of my two favorites in the world, I myself am not ready to concede that the Battle for New Orleans is over. That is for her survivors to decide, regardless of where they may make camp tonight.<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=iroquois@rigorousintuition>Iroquois</A> at: 9/6/05 9:05 pm<br></i>