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Re: Conspiracy of Masons, Illuminati, & Reading Societie

Postby eric144 » Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:32 am

"Blaming the US Citizens for loving America and not being able to stop the takeover by the syndicates is the same as blaming the victim of the crime..<br><br>Many Americans died for a Free Europe and their efforts led to the building of the US middle class. and a more eduacted and informed work force...WW II helped create a Peace..<br><br>The USA is dying..we are its last chance .Enough with the bashing of America cuz it don't fit your values system.."<br><br>You are buying the mythology one step below the 'war on terror', I don't. The fact that Americans died for their corprate master doesn't make them heros any more than the British who did the same. <br><br>The education system had to keep pace with technology but it's always been dumbed down. See 'Brave New World'. Now they've perfected the art of training rather than educating. Along with TV it works incredibly well as a narcotic.<br><br>"USA is down but not out..and the elites owning almsot the whole govt still FEAR us the people,,the dissenters,the Patriots<br>"<br><br>No they don't, not one tiny bit.<br><br>"it belongs to anyone who LOVES humanity and Freedom"<br><br>It belongs to those who own it, that doesn't mean you.<br><br><br>Americans work much harder and for longer hours than anyone else, the USA also has FIVE times the average global incarceration rate, the highest in the world. Yes higher than Cuba, Iraq, North Korea and China.<br><br>No that's what I call freedom. Freedom is money and they've got tons of it.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: americans and eric

Postby Homeless Halo » Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:41 am

cherrypicker.<br><br>eric:<br><br>please describe the "mythology one step below the world on terror" terminiology, as it seems, well blatantly false when applied in a general sense to WW2. You're saying that America, then, made up all that stuff about the German concentration camps etc? <br><br>If not, please be more specific, as I see no correlations between WW2 and the "war on terror" except in George Bush's speeches/connections to the "enemy". <br><br>Perhaps we should be clear. Are you suggesting that the Nazi regimes represented a roughly equivalent threat to world peace as Saddam Hussein did?<br>Are you suggesting their military might was as much an illusion as Hussein's?<br><br>Are you suggesting that history would've turned out the same, in the case of WW2, if the Americans had not chosen to participate in this conflict, which they rigorously attempted to avoid and were in no shape to meet(American military pre-WWII was smaller than Czechoslovakia's)?<br><br>Are you suggesting patterns of "involvement" with the "enemy" were/are at similar levels between FDR and GWB?<br><br>If so, please cite a reference, as I would find such information highly illuminating.<br><br>Is it not well known, even amongst the "Conspiracy" oriented types, that uncle Adolf had grown outside his leash length, having turned even on his own financiers and "coconspirators" as his plans neared fruition?<br><br>Is it not known that it was the American institutions involved with German eugenicists who pointed out the glaring scientific inconsistencies with this "theory" and its "application" via Holocaust?<br><br>Was it not the American remainders of these scientists who carried out actual Genetics research to eventually establish all such theories as pure myth?<br><br>You said:<br><br>"Americans work much harder and for longer hours than anyone else, the USA also has FIVE times the average global incarceration rate, the highest in the world. Yes higher than Cuba, Iraq, North Korea and China."<br><br>Indeed. Americans traditionally pride themselves on their work ethic, it is to their credit, in a general sense, that they are willing to carry so much burden. The USA has an astronomical incarceration rate, however, this is largely due to astronomical crime rates. The gas station on my block has been robbed twice since JULY. Our crime rates, especially violent crime, are higher per capita, than our incarceration rates, so in general, our incarceration numbers are UNDER what they SHOULD be. This is even more pronounced if we were to remove our consensual criminals from the system. American laws, on average, are no more draconian than any other industrialized place, so our crime rate COULD be seen as us having a higher tendency to NOT listen to our masters' whims. You are in no position to tell ME about crime in America, living as you are in Hobbinton by comparison. While I can agree that steps could be taken to lower crime rates outside this system of incarceration, in a variety of ways, by choosing our incarceration rate as an attack on the States in general, you have merely shown your lack of knowledge about American day-to-day reality.<br><br>You said:<br><br>"The fact that Americans died for their corprate master doesn't make them heros any more than the British who did the same." <br><br>I agree. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: re: americans and eric

Postby eric144 » Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:16 pm

""mythology one step below the world on terror" <br><br>The mythology that America acts on behalf of or to help anyone else, that's what I mean. My parent's generation (war) seemed to hate Americans in actual fact. Americans are hated in Europe today and were in the '60s '70s and '80s. People (wrongly) fell for the Clnton charm. The idea that America represents freedom or democracy is a ridiculous lie, the American involvement in Nazism has been gone over here before.<br><br>"Is it not well known, even amongst the "Conspiracy" oriented types, that uncle Adolf had grown outside his leash length, having turned even on his own financiers and "coconspirators" as his plans neared fruition?<br><br><br>The Soviet Union won world war II. America's ally Adolf Hitler lost. America invaded Europe (in 1944 !!!!!) to save it for fascism and the nazis moved to the USA. (Op Paperclip). There were opposing forces in America in Britain, so it wasn't that simple.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>it is to their credit, in a general sense, that they are willing to carry so much burden.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>You mean they're as greedy as starving rats, don't you ?<br><br>"American laws, on average, are no more draconian than any other industrialized place"<br><br>Yes they are and it's the only democracy to carry out the death penalty. High crime rate equals deliberately engineered poverty by the way.<br><br>The Great Satan ? Yes.<br><br><br>.<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>you are in Hobbinton by comparison<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Not really. As someone here pointed out, according a recent UN report, Scotland is the most violent country in the world and I live in the town known as the 'knife capital of Scotland'. It isn't safe to walk the streets in broad daylight in some places near here. There aren't many guns by American standards though. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=eric144>eric144</A> at: 11/12/05 9:34 am<br></i>
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Re: re: americans and eric

Postby Qutb » Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:55 pm

"America's ally Hitler" - only if a handful of Wall Street bankers and lawyers and oil/chemical company bigwigs constitute "America". Bankers and lawyers who Roosevelt deeply distrusted and suspected of aiding the enemy. Who had to explain themselves before a Senate committee headed by Harry Truman and whose assets were confiscated.<br><br>Unfortunately, the grandson of one of them (who managed to remain under the radar at the time) is currently president of the United States. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: re: americans and eric

Postby eric144 » Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:58 pm

That's why I said<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>There were opposing forces in America in Britain, so it wasn't that simple.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I think Roosevelt (naturally) took advantage of the situation that presented itself. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=eric144>eric144</A> at: 11/12/05 10:59 am<br></i>
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heroes

Postby jenz » Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:55 pm

1.did you mean that those men who helped to liberate france ww2 were not heroic, or did i misread this?<br>2. americans hated in europe - poppycock, balderdash<br>3. lots of americans quite nice really, as are some scotts. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: heroes

Postby slimmouse » Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:08 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>1.did you mean that those men who helped to liberate france ww2 were not heroic, or did i misread this?<br>2. americans hated in europe - poppycock, balderdash<br>3. lots of americans quite nice really, as are some scotts.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> This has nothing to do with Americans v Europeans, or v Germans or anything else.<br><br> Dig a lot deeper and you see the same muli -thousand year old story.<br><br> The rich exploiting the poor by war via taxation, which funds war along with arms sales, Oil, Usury, and in the latter years "illegal drugs" ( HAHAHAHa) - and using other control mechanisms along the way such as "official religion", left versus right politics, and any other number of tools; all of which were pictorially laid out for the privileged in the Temples in ancient Egypt. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> One of these days, the alternative intellectuals are gonna look at what Icke and others have been saying for almost 20 years now and say "I knew it all along"<br><br> Funny.<br> <br> Knowledge is power. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 11/12/05 6:27 pm<br></i>
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Re: heroes

Postby dbeach » Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:17 am

more american bashing .. more blaming victims.<br><br>How bout some viable solutions ? Some stradegy?<br><br><br>Come on ya alll so clever..<br><br>Come live here and preach this line that America is the bully /satan of the world and these guys ain't Heros cuz they shoulda revolted against their corporat masters. OH PLEASE.<br><br><br><br> HELLO .they did revolt in 1776 and MAYBE they were a bunch of white rich guys BUT compared to this current crowd they were all Heros .CS says we are a nation of LAWS or we are done.<br><br>If the USA falls to these scum bags and their euro kissin couisns .<br> Bet this :your country is next ..now they are only hittin the lil ones like Iraq ,Afi and whatever they got going in South America..<br><br>Their agenda is knock off the USA and nobody is left except Russia and China<br><br>They are shoving a 1984 dictatorship down the throats of the USA and the only voices are the individuals who are awake.<br><br>Slimmouse hits it as usual..<br>The elite pigs are positioning themselves for the ultimate power grab .. playing their money and control against the commoners.<br><br>They look almost unbeatable but so have many in the past..<br><br>SOS.<br> the uber rich against the lower classes.<br><br>BUT to say we are without power is to admit defeat and its what they want a demoralized and disjointed Citizenry.<br><br>This is war and the busheviks have tried to make the rules..<br><br>their elite vision against the US Citizens.<br><br>We do have power .. the power to remain positive in these most dangerous and difficult times..and to not feed the enemy with negative vibrations ..not an easy task...<br><br>given most of us hardly know each other..<br>They eat LOOSH..We win with Love and Kindness even for the elites ..no easy task..<br>WW I had a song ..praise the Lord and pass the ammuniton<br><br>IF the elites turn their guns on the USA Citizens ..then the game is gonna radically change .. so far they have been very clever to pick off the disempowered,strays , the needy and poor . They will change tactics cuz their greed is unbounded.<br><br>I know many who say ;I was willing to die for the USA once and would do it again.<br><br>This is war .<br>a war by elite terrorists against the Freedom lovers.<br><br>''they hate us for our freedoms"..bush had a lil freud in him.<br>on that quote<br>.he shouda said ; We elites HATE any form of Freedom..<br><br>And this is Freedom discussing this current crisis.. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: heroes

Postby eric144 » Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:37 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Come live here and preach this line that America is the bully /satan of the world <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Roughly 6 billion people believe that, you don't. Never mind.<br><br>You come to Europe and see how welcome they make you. I have met Americans who were shocked when people shouted at them to piss off or whatever. They said 'we're protecting you' and actually believed it !! <br><br>There was a very well circulated article in a British newspaper last year, written by an outraged American who couldn't understand why she was being victimised and harassed for her accent. Not by hooligans but by commuters on the tube.<br><br>At 10 years old, I and my playmates were marching round the school singing anti-American chants.<br><br>"HELLO .they did revolt in 1776 "<br><br>They didn't, they were co-opted by the French to betray their own country and continue the war. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: heroes

Postby dbeach » Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:03 am

6 billion hate america is maybe a lil exaggeration<br><br>Ya lost me<br><br>You are directing your hate at me and other swho still LOVE America not he bush version <br><br>BYE have fun marchin around hating the USA <p></p><i></i>
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Re: heroes

Postby eric144 » Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:09 am

"others who still LOVE America "<br><br>For me that's the problem, not Bush per se. <br><br>Clinton killed approx 1 million Iraqis and started a war in Europe (Yugoslavia). Much worse than Bush, not an easy thing to do. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: heroes

Postby Fearless » Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:54 pm

Repubs, Dems, no matter. They're all the same. Traitors, all. Money talks. Although with Clinton, we at least got a kiss before we got screwed. <p></p><i></i>
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