by Homeless Halo » Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:41 am
cherrypicker.<br><br>eric:<br><br>please describe the "mythology one step below the world on terror" terminiology, as it seems, well blatantly false when applied in a general sense to WW2. You're saying that America, then, made up all that stuff about the German concentration camps etc? <br><br>If not, please be more specific, as I see no correlations between WW2 and the "war on terror" except in George Bush's speeches/connections to the "enemy". <br><br>Perhaps we should be clear. Are you suggesting that the Nazi regimes represented a roughly equivalent threat to world peace as Saddam Hussein did?<br>Are you suggesting their military might was as much an illusion as Hussein's?<br><br>Are you suggesting that history would've turned out the same, in the case of WW2, if the Americans had not chosen to participate in this conflict, which they rigorously attempted to avoid and were in no shape to meet(American military pre-WWII was smaller than Czechoslovakia's)?<br><br>Are you suggesting patterns of "involvement" with the "enemy" were/are at similar levels between FDR and GWB?<br><br>If so, please cite a reference, as I would find such information highly illuminating.<br><br>Is it not well known, even amongst the "Conspiracy" oriented types, that uncle Adolf had grown outside his leash length, having turned even on his own financiers and "coconspirators" as his plans neared fruition?<br><br>Is it not known that it was the American institutions involved with German eugenicists who pointed out the glaring scientific inconsistencies with this "theory" and its "application" via Holocaust?<br><br>Was it not the American remainders of these scientists who carried out actual Genetics research to eventually establish all such theories as pure myth?<br><br>You said:<br><br>"Americans work much harder and for longer hours than anyone else, the USA also has FIVE times the average global incarceration rate, the highest in the world. Yes higher than Cuba, Iraq, North Korea and China."<br><br>Indeed. Americans traditionally pride themselves on their work ethic, it is to their credit, in a general sense, that they are willing to carry so much burden. The USA has an astronomical incarceration rate, however, this is largely due to astronomical crime rates. The gas station on my block has been robbed twice since JULY. Our crime rates, especially violent crime, are higher per capita, than our incarceration rates, so in general, our incarceration numbers are UNDER what they SHOULD be. This is even more pronounced if we were to remove our consensual criminals from the system. American laws, on average, are no more draconian than any other industrialized place, so our crime rate COULD be seen as us having a higher tendency to NOT listen to our masters' whims. You are in no position to tell ME about crime in America, living as you are in Hobbinton by comparison. While I can agree that steps could be taken to lower crime rates outside this system of incarceration, in a variety of ways, by choosing our incarceration rate as an attack on the States in general, you have merely shown your lack of knowledge about American day-to-day reality.<br><br>You said:<br><br>"The fact that Americans died for their corprate master doesn't make them heros any more than the British who did the same." <br><br>I agree. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>