Secret Societies Primer

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Secret Societies Primer

Postby nomo » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:47 pm

By Gianni DeVincent Hayes, Ph.D.<br>February 26, 2006<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=6279">www.americanchronicle.com...cleID=6279</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> Beneath the broad tides of human history there flow the stealthy undercurrents of the secret societies, which frequently determine in the depth the changes that take place upon the surface.<br></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br> Author Arthur Edward Waite<br> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Real History of the Rosicrucian</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br> Steiner Books, 1977<br><br>The pulsing, squeezing beat of the living organism called the Elite—those in influential positions who are making unwanted decisions for us—have succeeded in bringing forth a global government or New World Order (NWO). They pulled out their entire armory, and over dozens of years, generations of generations, they have pushed the NWO agenda down our throats, and we’ve meekly accepted it.<br><br>They have used and still are using both overt and covert methods to make us accept the dissolution of the American Constitution, and, in irony, feel grateful for it. They have invaded our churches, our schools, our culture, our economy, our history our political strongholds, and even our minds. And with barely a whimper, we have condoned the loss of our country, the loss of our values and mores, the loss of free thinking, and the loss of the control of our own minds. They own our economy, our political system, our children and, most of all, they own us—we, who years ago, should have fought back to prevent the downfall of our beloved America and our freedoms.<br><br>Some of their means for achieving their goals are blatant; others are camouflaged and done behind closed doors, but however they accomplish their objectives, the result is the same: They have planned well, implemented admirably, and shattered us conclusively. Their techniques have been varied and effective, but one of the most effective, behind-the-scenes methods is the use of the secret societies.<br><br>You’ve heard of this one major vehicle—the secret societies--haven’t you? They’re real--those shadow or underground groups that control the world by powerful members who hide the truth from us, who wield a force greater than hundreds of megatons of bombs. There isn’t any one article or any one particular book that can cover the entire gamut of what secret societies are all about, who their members are, what they have done and what they plan to do, so certainly this short article alone can not possibly envelop it all. What is known is that their members—commanding, wealthy elite men, some women—hold sway over us and network all the way to the top of nations’ governments and schools to ascertain that their desired people and agenda are set into place and enforced. Since this can’t be told in an all-encompassing article, only the basics are offered here.<br><br>No two experts agree on any definitive hierarchy of the secret societies. Below serves only as a sampling, but as you read through this, keep in mind that “Paganism and Luciferianism are the bases of all secret societies.”[1]<br><br>BACKGROUND<br><br>Myths, legends, societies, signs, and symbols have their origins in Antiquity and have been used for centuries as a means of identifying individuals and their roles. The majority of them are occultic, with emphasis on gods and goddesses, and witchcraft and other dark, subversive activities. No matter what an occultist practices, it is for Lucifer and not for God: “The Bible and the Church condemn all kinds of Occultism with the strongest words and penalties because Occultism is from the devil.”[2] Dr. J. Dominguez--an occult expert--offers: [3]<br><br> There are 10,000 astrologers, and 40 million people consult the horoscope. . . . In California, the Satanic Church has 8,000 members. There are 20,000 “santero priests” in Miami and New York. In England, there are 9,000 witches, and in France, 60,000 with earnings of over $200 million per year.<br><br>The occult, the darkness, have been elevated and accelerated by such authors as Orwell, H. G. Wells, Kipling, G.B. Shaw, et al. All were loyal Fabians/Socialists who saw the world a better place to live if individuals gave up their rights and privileges and simply followed orders by those who presumably knew better. High level authors, and the media personnel in general throughout the planet—who are often secret society members--are used to bring about the changes desired by the global elite, [and] nobody realizes this,”[4] says David Icke, a researcher on world activities. He goes on to add that “Everything from mass mind control, economic enslavement, political control, media control, and military control are being used to implement a program to bring about complete domination of the world.”<br><br>David Bay of Cutting Edge Ministries clarifies that these secret societies all share the same characteristics; he titles them as: [5]<br><br> 1. Arrogant Pride = members parlay a sense that they are above and superior to others, an elite class, and specifically are chosen because of their innate and rare knowledge of the “Truth” or the hidden and “ancient mysteries,” while the rest of the world are mere peons. The secret truth they believe they possess is never to be revealed to any nonmember. Christians know that only God is omnipotent and can be arrogant and perfect…but not man.<br><br> 2. Dual Personalities = Those in secret societies behave one way when they're with their fellow members and then put on a front for others when out in public. But Christians believe that God is the true personality with three in one--God, the Father; Christ, the son; and the Holy Spirit, the advocate. God is always true to Himself and others. Societies, as a whole, don't worship God because they consider themselves the highest form of life . . . higher than the everyday man.<br><br> 3. Teaching = Society members prize teaching their ways to new members but doing so only in small bits of information given over a period of time until that member meets the requirements to become part of the upper Echelon in the organization. Oral teaching was sacred, as only through verbalization could the secrets be shared without them becoming written records and then publicized.<br><br> 4. Inherent Good = Unlike biblical truth that states man is inherently evil (ergo, the sin of eating the fruit in Eden, of choosing evil over good), secret societies claim the opposite, that man is inherently good and should be told the secrets through membership, providing the potential initiate meets the criteria to be considered worthy enough to be a society fellow.<br><br> 5. Coming Savior = Bay says that most religions teach that a Redeemer King will arise to head the world. Christians will know Him as Christ while Satanists and society members will understand him to be the anti-Christ, though not necessarily labeled as such, and that the two antitheses will hold combat to gain power over humankind.<br><br>Secret societies aren’t adolescent clubs but rather they’re serious, dire organizations that are out to uproot all governments and particularly America as we know it, wiping out our very roots of religious freedom and sovereign rights. Said President Woodrow Wilson, A. . . there is a power so organized, so subtle, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.<br><br>For those who do not believe that secret societies exist to undermine our sovereignty and our lives, watch the History and Discovery channels, order some videos, find former members of these groups who will talk to you, read the ever growing field of books, articles, and pamphlets on the stranglehold of secret groups running the world. Research them; follow them in the media, though the media are the least reliable resource since they are owned by the very Elite who created the secret societies. This is a real conundrum in itself.<br><br>Though not all of the societies are given here, this list offers some of the major and most influential ones; others will be discussed in detail in future publications:<br><br> 1. The Bilderbergers. This powerful group secretly meets every year to discuss plans for every citizen on earth, as to how to foster and implement the one-world-government goal. As a clandestine order, each member has vowed not to reveal the nature of the issues covered in the meetings, or to give attribution to what was said. Additionally, members of this organization hold major, high-profile, and influential positions throughout the world. Some of those who have attended and do attend these secret meetings are the likes of Bill Clinton, Walter Mondale, the Rockefellers, Gerald Ford, Tony Blair, Henry Kissinger, Peter Jennings, Colin L. Powell, William McDonough, and about 115 powerful people.[6]<br><br> 2. The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The puissant and illegal Federal Reserve Board formed this organization in 1921, right after WWI, to shepherd their plans through to the unsuspecting public, primarily of which is to obliterate national boundaries and form a one-world government of which they are loyal to. It boasted the likes of Rockefeller, Richard Nixon, Dean Rusk, and many other past leaders, as well as hundreds of today’s media hot-dogs, politicians, educators, and numerous journalists. Secrecy is paramount. The CFR is in New York City.<br><br> 3. The Trilateral Commission (TLC). Believed to be founded in 1973 by Brezezinski, with Jimmy Carter, this shadow association is thought to exist to create a multinational commerce and banking group through the entrapment of the American government, and the formation of a one-world government. In addition to the founders, others members include Henry Kissinger, Bill Clinton, Bruce Babbitt, Alan Greenspan, Paul Volcker [7] and many others. The TLC consists of a global network of plutocrats. Surveillance of everyone's actions is a key goal, and, to that end, they have developed (and still are developing) the most high-tech surveillance equipment ever in existence.<br><br> 4. The Illuminati. This group is the world's money-holders who want global governance and are using chaos to make people submissive and compliant through crime, monetary problems, disobedient children and the take-over of education and economy, as well as religion. David Icke states that “The Illuminati, the clique which controls the direction of the world, are genetic hybrids, the result of interbreeding . . . [and] that this is why European royal and aristocratic families have interbred so obsessively, as do the so-called Eastern Establishment families of the United States, which produce the leaders of America. Every presidential election since and including George Washington in 1789 has been won by the candidate with the most European genes.”[8] The Illuminati, offers Icke, are “obsessed with symbolism and rituals. Their prime directives (covered in future articles) are frightening.<br><br> 5. Skull and Bones. This Yale organization’s goal is to help propagate a one-world society with the hope of one of its members becoming the head of that system. Former President Bush, his father, Preston, and Bush Sr.’s son, President George W. Bush are all noted members of this organization, among many other renowned constituents, as well as John Kerry who is distantly related to Bush, both of whom are distantly related to the Queen. The society engages in secrecy and the dark arts, and performs ritualistic acts. An article in Conspiracy Nation states A. . . new evidence that the Skull and Bones Society and the CIA conspired together in 1963 to assassinate President John F. Kennedy.[9]<br><br> 6. Freemasonry. This fraternal organization was originally located in England but has since been, established in America as well. Albert Pike, Grand Commander of Freemasonry and a Satanist, stated in his book, Morals and Dogma, that Freemasonry is a search for Light. [>Light = is Lucifer.] That search leads us directly back . . . to the Kabbalah.[1<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Besides Pike, other noted Freemasons who were also Satanists were Helena Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, Annie Besant, Manly P. Hall, and now many others who are alive and well and worshipping Satan, knowingly or unknowingly). Secrecy is so much encouraged that Freemasonry's own lower-level members don't know what's really going on. Though the Masons claim they are a Christian organization, they are in reality the opposite of that.<br><br> 7. The Federal Reserve. This is a ruthless secret society because its actions and plans are known only by a handful of the Elite—the central, national, and international bankers. Its out to gather more power, fame, and control. Contrary to what most Americans think, the Federal Reserve System is privately held, and not government-owned, which is in violation of the 16th Amendment. This system was started by the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Warburgs, and several others, for the sole purpose of gaining monetary power throughout the world. Since their origination, they have culled so much wealth that they rule the United States, as well as some other countries through their international dealings. Rothschild's famous words that he can govern any country if given control of that country's economy, has been put into play through the Federal Reserve System, the owners of America and her people, and her economy, as well as her ideologies and group thought. The originators of the Federal Reserve are the founders of the Council on Foreign Relations, and have helped initiate the other cryptic societies for their own gain.<br><br> 8. Bohemian. The Bohemian Club (founded in 1872) and the Bohemian Grove enlist top male leaders for scandalous and depraved sexual activities. “Every Republican president since Herbert Hoover has belonged. . . Here is a small sampling of some of the prominent members: Stephen Bechtel, Jr. . . Joseph Coors . . . Et al.”[12]<br><br> Of its near 3000 members, other participants include(d) the Bushes, Richard Nixon, George Schultz, Henry Kissinger, Colin Powell, Merv Griffin, Newt Gingrich, Ronald Reagan, Caspar Weinberger, Dick Cheney, Danny Glover and others. “. . .some of the most powerful men on earth doing despicable sexual things . . . nude and semi-nude men worshiping a giant idol of an owl in a deeply occult ritual, and what appeared to be an actual human sacrifice of a burning, screaming white man . . . . [And] they choose who will be allowed to run for the high office of president and the vice president of the U.S.A.”[13]<br><br> 9. The Black Nobility. This is an extremely powerful group which some Europeans decree to be the core of all societies because they claim to possess “The Truth” (that from the Tree of Knowledge in Eden) and to be genetically linked to Christ through their bloodline with David, creating the Davidic Covenant while those who are descendants of Abraham belong to the Abrahamic Covenant which points up the difference between Jews, Christians and Muslims. This organization has been able to remain in power Athrough the maintenance of bloodlines. For instance . . . Queen Elizabeth II . . . carries the bloodline of the Black Nobility in Germany, back through to the Black Nobility Venetians through the Phoenicians, the Egyptians to the Sumerians, and no doubt, Atlantis. Prince Charles can trace 3,000 years of descent from Edward III . . . the monarch who formed the elite Satanic Brotherhood group, the Order of the Garter.”[14] Icke declares that A[{Former} missing child] Cathy O'Brien was a victim of this type of operation; her father sold her to MK-ULTRA and he became part of that whole program.@[15] Other children, he claims, become the object of rituals or mind control projects or sex slaves...A[16]<br><br> 10. The Vatican. The Vatican is listed here simply because of its infiltration by secret societies, and the heed it pays to them. David Bay of the Cutting Edge, says, “The Vatican is now thoroughly controlled by these Secret Societies as they move to complete the New World Order Religion, which they feel is an indispensable part of their New World Order . . . an occultic religion, one that will revive the Old Mysteries Religions of Babylon and Egypt, and one that will totally destroy Christianity. And the Vatican is now leading the charge.”17] Pope John Paul II issued a Papal Bull legalizing membership of Catholics in secret societies. Bay says the Pope [was] an Illuminist, and that he [was] the most traveled pope in history in response to the Illuminati doctrine of creating a singular global religion. Of note is that the Illuminati had actually taken over most of Italy in the mid to late-800s. Today’s Pope Ratzinger is following in PJPII’s footsteps and allowing the ongoing infiltration of secret societies.<br><br> 11. Wicca. This too is a shadow organization, as it reveals its true self only to its members who rise to a certain level. Over the years, Wiccans have attempted to legitimize themselves by founding satanic schools, establishing websites, presumably promoting the white witches vs the black witches rumors, and even outright denying that witchcraft is demonic. Instead, they say that they don't believe in any God, and that their existence is for man to search for the truth through their practices.<br><br> 12. The Roundtable. This is associated with the Holy Grail of Arthurian Legend. The “round table” is the ritualistic ceremony for the Order of the Garter that is to hail a more modern Illuminati Circle of the Round Table of this era. Icke says, “The inner elite of this Round Table in the US and UK . . . work together to engineer the circumstances that lead to . . . global conflict. Through their technique of “create-the-problem-then-offer-the-solution,” they want to destroy the global status quo with . . . war and therefore have the opportunity to re-draw the world in their agenda's image when the conflict was over.[18]<br><br> 13. Majestic Twelve. William Cooper, privy to highly confidential military documents, claims that a group of people have long planned the destruction of our country in order to form a socialist totalitarian government referred to as the “Majestytwelve” (with no space; and “MAJIC” and “MJ12”) which parallels the twelve disciples. That these people will help initiate a one-world order with a dictator makes this sole leader the antithesis to Christ, and that all our freedoms will be “zapped.” This may be accomplished through counterfeit aliens and a parallel UFO campaign. The ushering in of aliens, sorcery, Wicca, Satanism, and dark entertainment and publications, is used for preparing the world for what is about to come.<br><br> 14. Other Secret Societies. Inside secret societies are core groups or inner circles that truly rule the entire organizations. There are some societies that none dare even mention their names in print or utter orally. Although not all secret groups can be mentioned, here is a good chunk of some other covert groups that impact our lives as much as much as the Illuminati, Freemasons, Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergs, Skull and Bones, TLC, or Council on Foreign Relations. Examples of these lesser known elite groups are: The Club of Rome; The Committee of 300 (controls finance, insurance, drug trade, politics, industry, religion); Philosophers of Fire, the Group of Eight (G-<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ; Rhodes Scholar program; Black Lodge; Aspen Institute; Knights of Malta; World Federalists; The Circle of Initiates; Nine Unknown Men; Lucis Trust; Tavistock Institute; British Quator Coronati; Mumma Group; Nasi Princes; Milner Group-Round Table; World Economic Forum; Opus Dei; Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn; Rosicrucians; Knights of the Garter; the Priory of ZionA (who believe they are of the bloodline of Jesus); Prince Charles and the Black Nobility of Europe[19]; the Thule Society--based on a fifth dimension; Theosophical Society; The Witches League for Public Awareness; the Guardians; Key Fraternity; Brotherhood of the Snake, and several others not listed here because of space limitations.<br><br> Conclusion<br><br> The pretense by the Elite that secret societies don’t exist and are not functional in political, economical, educational, and religious footholds has proven them wrong. If they have nothing to hide, why form and join a secret society? Be alert for their false claims; their promises to give us a better life when they are destroying our freedoms; when they tell us something is true and it’s false, and visa versa; when they say they are protecting us when they’re really hanging us out to dry and molding us into slave labor. Be wary, I stress.<br><br> Future articles will address these and other societies in more detail, but certainly you should be asking yourself, “What does all this mean; how does it all add up?” According to William Cooper:<br><br> World War III is being fought NOW [sic]. It is being fought with “information warfare” using [various types of warfare already discussed and] sophisticated mind control techniques, propaganda, misinformation, intimidation, manipulation . . . [that] the old order be . . . destroyed thoroughly before the “new order,” the Third Wave, the Third Way.[2<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> It's up to each of us as individuals to be aware of these shadow groups and protect our civil liberties, maintain America as a free and sovereign company, and enforce that the people in elected positions reflect our views and enact legislation that pays homage to the U.S. Constitution, instead of their views; likewise, any existing law created by the Elite, or those mandates about to arise should be eliminated.<br><br> Only we can save ourselves through the help of God. The Lord tells us He will help those who help themselves. We must work through Him for change.<br><br> Footnotes:<br><br> 1. From The Unseen Hand, Ralph Epperson; p.76; Publius Press, AZ, 1995<br><br> 2. Dr. Richard Monteith; speaker at The Prophecy Club.<br><br> 3. "The Occult." J. Dominguez, M.D.. 2002.<br><br> 4. Ibid<br><br> 5, "Who's Controlling Who?" An interview with David Icke by Joseph Duggan<br><br> 6. "The Cutting Edge Radio Program." David Bay. “Transcript of Secret Societies." P. 3<br><br> 7. "Secret Societies and their Members." Page 2 of 4.<br><br> 8. "Secret Societies and Their Members" 06-5-02<br><br> 9. "Who's Controlling Who?" An interview with David Icke by Joseph Duggan<br><br> 10. "The Skull & Bones Society, "A Stunning Expose."<br><br> 11. Pike, Albert. Morals and Dogma; p. 741<br><br> 12, "Secret Societies and their Members." page 4 of 4.<br><br> 13. "Secret Societies and their Members." page 4 of 4.<br><br> 14. "Expose of the Bohemian Grove." P.1; 06-05-02.<br><br> 15. "Who's Controlling Who?" An interview with David Icke by Joseph Duggan<br><br> 16. Ibid<br><br> 17. "Who's Controlling Who." Joseph Dugan in an interview with David Icke. Quote attributed to Ted Gunderson. P. 4/6<br><br> 18. "Vatican and Secret Societies in Pursuit of a New World Order, Part 2" Page 1 of 9<br><br> 19. "The Round Table-Bilderberg Network." by David Icke. Page 3 of 9. 2002<br><br> 20. "Secret Societies and Orders." P. 1 of 10. 06-05-02<br><br> 21."Majestytwelve," by William Cooper. 26 pages.<br><br> Listen to Gianni Hayes on www.americanvoiceradio.com <p></p><i></i>
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Re: A coupla coinkydinks.

Postby slimmouse » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:53 pm

<br><br> The Thule society - affiliates including Adolf Hitler - AKA The brotherhood of death.<br><br> Skull and Bones - affiliates including every President since JFK - AKA The Brotherhood of death.<br><br> Jeff of course features, the emblem of the SS 322 team here, which of course is strangely enough, the exact replica of S+B.<br><br> Hitler was of course Liberating Poland, courtesy of Various false flags.<br><br> Bush meanwhile, whos speeches can often barely be distinguished from those of Hitler ( in the accompanying appropriate surroundings) is spreading democracy ( aka freedom) throughout the Middle East.<br><br> Just a few plain and simple old facts to help paint the picture regarding the 4th reich to any of your doubting friends and colleagues <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: A coupla coinkydinks.

Postby Qutb » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:01 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Skull and Bones - affiliates including every President since JFK<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Ahem</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. Only George Bush senior and junior, to be exact. <br><br>Neither Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan nor Clinton were Bonesmen.<br><br>Have any other bonesmen been presidents since Taft? I don't think so. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: A coupla coinkydinks.

Postby slimmouse » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:24 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Neither Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan nor Clinton were Bonesmen.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Apologies QUTB .<br><br> But, Im glad you intervened.<br><br> I guess i need to trawl thru the archives again, and due to some kind of divine intervention, you dont have to answer your critics.<br><br> Funny how it all plays out huh ?<br><br> On edit; <br><br> You taught me a good lesson. Was obviously sold a bad one somewhere or other. Thanks, and my apologies to the rest of the board. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 2/28/06 9:39 pm<br></i>
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Re: A coupla coinkydinks.

Postby Qutb » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:52 am

You wanted my commentary on that article you posted? I didn't read it, but I noticed the name Daniel Pipes in there so I have an idea what it was about. <br><br>I'm not in league with Pipes and you know it. I'm not using the term "anti-Semitism" to stifle criticism of Israeli policies. In fact, I rarely use the term. <br><br>I also used to be very sceptical of the ADL, because I felt they cried "wolf" way too often. Nowadays I'm a little more sympathetic and understand their vigilance better.<br><br>If you can't tell the difference between criticizing Israeli policies and what Jeff Rense and the Truth Seeker are doing, then maybe you need to lay off the David Icke books. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nah.

Postby slimmouse » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:02 am

Thats wasnt exactly what I was getting at.<br><br> What I was getting at, is the kinda stuff you quickly picked up on with me - namely intellectual dishonesty vis a vi Carter, Ford , Reagan etc.<br><br> The difference being of course, that your own obvious intellectual dishonesty, and the way you promote it, doesnt require a long memory.<br><br> It involves looking closely at a post, ( from 10 minutes ago) in some cases and not half quoting / misquoting the messenger.<br><br> Something that your good self , for all youre intelligence, appear strangely incapable of. <br><br> Putting words into peoples mouths however - you appear to have no problem with that .<br><br><br> I admit, Ive got a bad memory. But I can read a thread the entire way thru, and not misquote "A la Pipes" . <br><br> Shame you didnt read my link, but that said , I suppose that might be akin to learning what you already know, and exercise. And Ive got lots of proof of that assertion.<br><br> <br> Ive been the subject of this kind of crap myself, courtesy of you.<br><br> Your own 'memory' meanwhile, is either appalling, or worse.<br><br> Its your call.<br><br> All that said, thanks for the correction re S+B and its initiates. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 2/28/06 10:30 pm<br></i>
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Re: Nah.

Postby Qutb » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:10 am

Tell you what, I'll just stop quoting people on this board altogether and everybody will be happy. <br><br>If you have any further questions, why don't you pose them instead of just insinuating that I have something to answer for.<br><br>I didn't say you were intellectually dishonest by the way, only that you were wrong. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nah.

Postby Dreams End » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:18 am

Evidence is for wimps. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: A coupla coinkydinks.

Postby slimmouse » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:23 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>then maybe you need to lay off the David Icke books.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Well, of course we all MUST do that shouldnt we ?<br><br> After all, Hes an evil anti semite right ? Rather like Ken Livingstone huh ? Rather like Antiaristo or Slimmouse ?<br><br> He has nothing of worth to say, does he ?<br><br> Read his last book have ya ? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 2/28/06 10:40 pm<br></i>
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Re: Nah.

Postby heath7 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:49 am

Jews have absolutely nothing to do with anything that goes on in this world, and if anyone even mentions the name of another Jew in this thread, I will automatically understand that they are touting some racist conspiracy theory that can't possibly have an ounce of truth within it...<br><br>Oooohhhh! Daniel Pipes is a Jew, so all the information must be dismissed. You didn't even read the article before, once again, accusing someone of either laziness or bigotry. Are you sure you're not in league with Daniel Pipes?<br><br>Guess what, the holocaust <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>is</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> a lie. No one knows what really happened because its not allowed to be investigated; that makes it a lie simply because the truth, whatever it may be, is not allowed to be cleared up. There are people who are obviously deluded regarding the race of a lot of conspiracy conjecture, and we need to guard ourselves against that, but is it really necessary to sidetrack half the threads with unwarranted overscrutinization? It reeks of foul trolls. <br><br>And another thing, the ADL <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>IS</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> a racist (and quite possibly terrorist) organization with Israel's interests at heart, rather than Jews as a whole. That they enmesh Israel with evertyhing Jewish is a perfect example of their racist agenda, denying Jewish identity that doesn't first accept Israel unflinchingly. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nah.

Postby dbeach » Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:54 am

YALE ZOO has ruled the US since 1980 with GHW Bush<br><br>clinton was not S & B but was a Yalie as was mrs .clinton<br>cheny quit yale after 3 semesters of lying and cheating<br><br>S&B kerry is yalie and harvard<br>as is GW Bush<br><br>Forbes whom is kerys mothers side was invloved in opium trade in 1800s and affiliated with Yale<br><br>New Haven was opium center of east coast smugglers..many particain US families have built fortunes on the poppy curse<br><br>Poppy O of course was CIA director under Jerry ford <br>from 74-76<br><br>arms dope bank swindles looting both domestic and foreign treasuries white slavery kidnapping extortion sexual blackmail assassinations ect..is how the elites miantain control and pass wealth and privlege along<br><br><br>We have lived as the commoners for yrs thinking as free men/women while the privleged plotted our ruin.<br><br>a contented slave is no threat<br><br><br>in other words same ole game for yrs<br><br>cept now the ruling elites seem to be going for the entire planet and its resources and US law enforcement is as AWOL as lietenant bush on a sat nite in Alabama in 1970 ..<br>while clinton studied in Moscow..<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nah.

Postby Qutb » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:37 am

heath7, wow, what a meaningless rant.<br><br>I didn't bring up the "Jews" issue in this thread. I'm sick and tired of it myself. It's not a subject that interests me a whole lot, believe it or not, or that I have any personal stake in. I thought Slimmouse wanted my comment on the article he posted, which I hadn't read, and therefore couldn't comment on, so I just made a couple of general comments.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Guess what, the holocaust is a lie. No one knows what really happened because its not allowed to be investigated; that makes it a lie simply because the truth, whatever it may be, is not allowed to be cleared up<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->Are you serious? Where do you people get your information about the world from? Maybe a visit to your local library would be in order.<br><br>I give up. <br><br>And I'm sure I misquoted someone in this post and am therefore a liar. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nah.

Postby heath7 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:58 pm

Attempted stifling is not a good thing in the context of open discourse. <br><br>That said, Qutb, I wish you <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>would</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> give up, like you promised to months ago. You don't try to be honest on this board, but you sure practice feigning it.<br><br>Its amazing that anyone on this board, knowing that every account propagated in the rulers' history books is at a minimum laced with lies, can so stubbornly stick to so many official lies. <br><br>You call me an unreasonable liar, as you do so many on here. I say go find yourself a world-record pineapple and commence to vigorously pushing your poop back in. And please, feel free to go to your local port-a-john, grab a few gallons, and piston that on up there too. It'd be greatly appreciated. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nah.

Postby professorpan » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:24 pm

Wow, the discourse here just gets better every day! Poop and pineapple -- now that's a wonderful metaphor (and a tasty treat, to boot).<br><br>Heath7, would you like to talk to some Holocaust survivors? There are many of them who are still alive who could fill you in on what really happened.<br><br>You might as well give up, Qutb. The monkeys have taken over the zoo. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nah.

Postby antiaristo » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:41 pm

pan,<br>He can talk to me if he wishes.<br>My father was a concentration camp survivor. I've written about my family several times, but I guess we're the wrong religion.<br>Nearly four years in Burma as a guest of the Emperor of Japan.<br>But it didn't end there.<br>Back to Her Majesty's loving embrace, and a career cleaning lavatories.<br>So yeah, I've got personal experience of a concentration camp survivor, and Nazis.<br>And I don't tell lies.<br>My enemies are looking for ONE lie from me.<br>So they can use it over and over again, like the Howard Dean scream.<br>But they can't find one. <p></p><i></i>
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