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<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Bohemian Grove pilgrimage starts<br>Yearly men-only gathering of dignitaries begins Saturday, sure to draw protesters</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br> Friday, Jul 14, 2006<br>By BOB NORBERG<br>THE PRESS DEMOCRAT<br><br>A steady line of Gulfstream, Cessna and Falcon corporate jets landed Thursday at Charles M. Schulz-Sonoma County Airport, signaling the opening of the annual Bohemian Grove encampment.<br><br> "We love this," said Bob Gallagher, general manager of Apex Aviation, which had more than a dozen private aircraft parked on its tarmac. "It's good for business, it's good for Apex, cars, hotels, catering . .. it helps the whole county."<br><br>The annual encampment is as much a thread in the fabric of Sonoma County as the fall grape crush and foggy beach days, and it draws as many as 3,000 to the exclusive men-only club amid the Russian River redwoods.<br><br>Among the attendees will be former Secretary of State Colin Powell, who is scheduled to speak, according to the Bohemian Grove Action Network, which has been protesting at the encampment since 1980. Grove officials would not confirm the speech schedule.<br><br>Meanwhile, rumors circulated among airport workers Thursday that actors John Travolta and George Clooney also were expected to fly in.<br><br>The annual gathering has its detractors, who contend the participants - from government leaders to corporate executives - meet outside public view and discuss such issues as the war in Iraq and terrorism.<br><br>"I wouldn't say 'sinister' is the word at all, but the people who are involved there are doing some politically very inappropriate things to the world," said Peter Phillips, a Sonoma State University sociology professor who wrote his doctoral thesis on the club.<br><br>Phillips will be among the protesters July 22 outside the gates of the Monte Rio retreat, where they have picketed each event since 1980.<br><br>FULL-<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060714/NEWS/607140325/1033/NEWS01">www1.pressdemocrat.com/ap...033/NEWS01</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>==============<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove, Jones and his assistant infiltrated the annual secret gathering of the Bohemian Club. He was aided ... all » by a team of British filmmakers working for Channel 4. Footage was later shown in the U.K. as part three in a four-part documentary, The Secret Rulers of the World. One of the filmmakers, Jon Ronson, subsequently documented the experience in his book, Them: Adventures with Extremists. <br><br>While in the Grove, Jones used a hidden camera to record—among other things—the Cremation of Care ritual, in which some of the most powerful men in the world gather before a 40-foot stone resembling a huge owl (Moloch), and burn a human-like dummy in effigy of "dull care." They then proceed to "read the sign" within its ashes. <br><br>Google video-1 hr 31 min 36 sec<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1358319439993514946&q=bohemian+grove">video.google.com/videopla...mian+grove</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>

Another liberal dreamboat down the toilet! <p></p><i></i>

yesterday i typed a post on the belgium thread (which I lost and didn't then retype and send), re ritual, using the example that some abusive groups were as likely to be abusing in a george clooney mask as in a hooded cloak (this example came from testimony of survivor). is nothing sacred!<br> <p></p><i></i>

The Jones `invasion` is a flick; it simply didn`t happen. He is a major disinformant. <br>Get over it please. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Clooney--if I (also a Progressive) were he and I received an invitation to attend a gathering of elite scum like the Bohemian Club generally draws, I'd accept in a New York minute! Of course, being female, I'm unlikely to ever get one, so if he goes in the place of all of the people who deplore the NeoCon trash who generally attend and he baits them with both wit and wisdom, as he is wont to do, then I will be thrilled. <br><br>And re: Jone's video--you cannot have actually watched it yourself, or you would already know that if it's a fake, then he had to have engaged a cast of hundreds to make it. The number of men standing among the redwoods is considerable. And the expense of constructing the huge statue of Moloch and hiring real actors and special effects people to do the "destruction of cares" ceremony would have been significant, in and of itself.<br><br>Yet it's posted online for free viewing--the amount of money Jones has made from it is extremely unlikely to have even begun to approach what it would have cost to make it, even if some of those men shown in it were volunteers. <br><br>IOW, your statement that it's a fake doesn't hold water. Unless, of course, you have an explanation for how it was financed. And from what I've read on his site, he's actually exposed quite a few likely sources of disinformation. I'd be interested to know your sources for your assertions.<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>

Scratching my head at the 'fake' comment as well. No way is all that footage fake. <p></p><i></i>

BTW, I'm an artist who sometimes does work in image editing programs and the part that focuses on the stage and the ritual does not look like CG to me at all. So Pah is saying that actual actors and a set and special effects were paid for...and Alex Jones just doesn't strike me as someone who would have had the budget to stage it. Just MO, YMMV. But I'd like to see a more substantial argument made for it being fake. A drive-by post with no proof and no follow up doth not a debunking make.<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>

into BG (Ronson, the documentarian/author of <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Men Who Stare at Goats</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> and more).<br><br>I'm not a fan of Jones' unmodulated hysteria, but he didn't fake it. <p></p><i></i>

No, it's not fake. Several magazines have chronicled the same stuff. (In fact, Ransom has a story about his dad thinking Jones paid people to dress up in robes because he was too taken aback by the footage.)<br><br>The interesting question is why? Is it just fun and games? An overgrown fraternity ritual? If so, where did they get the idea to do this? Where did they get the rhetoric for the ceremony? What does the audience think they're watching? What do the participants think? <br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

"The Jones `invasion` is a flick; it simply didn`t happen"<br><br>Yes, it did. I have spoken with Mary Moore, the head of the Bohemian Grove Action Network, and she told me that they helped Jones get in. She also said that he was a real handful. So, what else is new. <p></p><i></i>

Why is it that people think a conspiracy personality could stage some elaborate event on film, but many of the same people would scoff at the notion that a professional intelligence organization would ever do the same? <p></p><i></i>

The film is real...the question is, is it just a bunch of guys playing dress up?<br><br>By the way, what's up with the Moloch thing? the film is real but an owl is not a symbol of Moloch...Athena maybe. I'm happy to be corrected about that, but I think it's one of those sloppy interpretive things that always screw up genuine attempts to look into the stuff.<br><br>This seems to be a typical representation of Moloch:<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://theunjustmedia.com/Freemasons/moloch.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>This monstrosity was supposedly used to sacrifice children. That is, the statue itself was a device to do so. I THINK that this is accepted as fact even by mainstream historians...though I'm open to correction on that as well.<br><br>Also, related sort of. For awhile on the net there was a film allegedly of a skull and bones initiation including a "fake" sacrifice of a woman by cutting her throat. I am pretty sure that the S and B folks confirmed it was real but that the sacrifice was just playacting. Even if fake, it's still creepy, but I couldn't find it again. It's shot with a nightvision scope.<br><br>Anyway, if nothing else, BG and S and B show that elites like to dress up in robes and pretend to sacrifice people. I'm thinking that alone ought to be a bit of a red flag, eh?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>By the way, what's up with the Moloch thing? the film is real but an owl is not a symbol of Moloch<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Copy that. <br><br>For that matter, why can't it just be the Owl of Minerva? They ask it to "grant us thy counsel."<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.hegel.org/om/index.html" target="top">www.hegel.org/om/index.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Here's this guy's take on it. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/organisations/Bohemian_Grove_symbolism.htm" target="top">home.planet.nl/~reijd050/organisations/Bohemian_Grove_symbolism.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

Minerva = Athena. And I've always assumed this was the case. <p></p><i></i>

Doh! I didn't see your next comment. <br><br>That's right. Athena's the greek. Minerva's the Roman. <p></p><i></i>