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Postby AlanStrangis » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:07 pm

12 victims sent to hospital in Montreal shooting<br><br>Updated Wed. Sep. 13 2006 3:52 PM ET<br><br>CTV.ca News Staff<br><br>Two suspected gunmen are dead in a chaotic shooting scene at Dawson College in downtown Montreal that has left 12 victims in hospital.<br><br>"Government sources are saying two of the gunmen are dead," said CTV's Jed Kahane, reporting from Montreal. "One may have taken his own life, the other was shot by police."<br><br>A police spokesperson told reporters that shots are still being fired, so officers are still looking for other potential gunmen. The college has been evacuated, and the public is asked to avoid the area.<br><br>Twelve victims of the shooting have been taken to hospital for treatment, including six in critical condition, two considered serious, and four listed in stable condition.<br><br>Kahane said police received a call about the shooting at just before 1 p.m. ET. Witnesses heard shots at about 12:45 ET that lasted for 30 minutes, and there were questions about whether a third gunman was also involved.<br><br>Dawson College is located at the corner of Atwater and Sherbrooke in the heart of downtown Montreal.<br><br>Students told Kahane they saw someone roaming the halls with a gun, and heard at least 20 shots fired.<br><br>One student told Montreal radio station 940 News she was on the phone at the college's front entrance when she heard five gunshots and a window break. She walked into the hallway and was inches from the gunman.<br><br>"All of a sudden I turned around and saw a man dressed in black with a huge assault rifle," she said....<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060913/montreal_shooting_060913/20060913?hub=TopStories">Montreal Shooting</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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reports of 4 dead, 16 injured, 8 critically

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:13 pm

Watching <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>CBC Newsworld </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->now: descriptions of shooters (unsure how many; one's dead, police looking for more) are of trenchcoat mafia-like late-teen white guys with studs and mohawks.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Witnesses tell of chaos as college targeted</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>An eyewitness to Wednesday's college shooting in Montreal that injured as many as 16 people said students were lying on the floor when a gunman opened fire.<br><br>The shooter was telling police officers on the scene to go away in a "rude manner," said the Dawson College student, who was inside the school when the man started firing his weapon randomly.<br><br>A number of witnesses say the shooter didn't appear to reload his weapon as he fired multiple times.<br><br>The shootings happened around 1 p.m. ET at the college in downtown Montreal. The English-language school has roughly 10,000 students aged 16 to 20.<br><br>It's not clear how many shooters were involved. Reports say two gunmen are dead and two people are in surgery in life-threatening condition following the gunfire.<br><br>Another eyewitness told CBC News she was smoking outside the college when she saw a tall, white man wearing a long black trenchcoat walk down the street with a large gun.<br><br>He was with a number of other people, said the woman, who was shaking and crying as she spoke.<br><br>The man was about 19 years old with body piercings and wore clothing with studs, she said. He fired a number of times before going inside the school, the woman added.<br><br>She said she ran and hid in the bushes as debris from the gunfire scattered around her. She ran again until a woman let her inside a nearby apartment.<br><br>'He ran after us'<br><br>Sehr Marous said he and his friend Marie were exiting the school when they noticed a man holding a gun with both hands.<br><br>"He opened fire — pap, pap, pap!" he said. "He ran after us; he was metres behind us."<br><br>"There was chaos. Everybody was running and screaming."<br><br>He said he believed it was a paint gun and didn't immediately think of running away.<br><br>"I wouldn't have run if my friend wasn't beside me. I thought she was overreacting. Now I feel like an idiot."<br><br>The floors shook<br><br>Mallory Lawton was in class at the time of the shootings. She said the floors shook as people in the hallways started running.<br><br>Police ordered students in her class to remain inside the room and lock the door until they let them leave.<br><br>"We closed the door, we locked it, we all just hoped that it would pass and tried not to think about it," she said.<br><br>"We were there for a good two hours."<br><br>Students tried to phone their parents while they were locked inside the classroom, but cellphone service was jammed and most couldn't get through, she said.<br><br>Kim Stevenson, who works close to the school, told CBC News many nearby buildings, including a shopping mall, were evacuated. Sections of Montreal's subway were also closed.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/09/13/montreal-witness.html">www.cbc.ca</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Not funny, but..

Postby yathrib » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:16 pm

...when I first saw your heading, I thought it was "Columbine... a franchise." That's sort of true too, isn't it? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Not funny, but..

Postby AlanStrangis » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:21 pm

No marketing jokes, please. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Seriously? It's weird because reports around 4 pm said shots were still being fired, even though one (originally 2) gunmen were shot earlier.<br><br>Now the news is talking about it just being one dead gunman.<br><br>As a PS:<br><br>I hate how online news sites "update" their stories, erasing their previous reports, instead of making additions... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Not funny, but..

Postby sunny » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:31 pm

In earlier reports on MSNBC, no mention of trenchcoats. Witnesses said gunmen were wearing "black military fatigues." <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Not funny, but..

Postby AlanStrangis » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:01 pm

Just saw a replay of an interview done earlier in the day with a girl who was outside at the beginning. She described a guy with "big trenchcoat, big boots and a retarded haircut".<br><br>She also said he was white 19, and taller than "his friends"...<br><br>hmmm.... <p></p><i></i>
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Deja-vu:how many gunmen?

Postby madeupname452 » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:31 pm

Earlier today the bbc and reuters were reporting three or four gunmen in black military fatigues.<br>Now there is only one wearing not fatigues but a 'black trenchcoat'.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-09-13T184119Z_01_N13195054_RTRUKOC_0_UK-CRIME-CANADA-DEATHS.xml">today.reuters.co.uk/news/...DEATHS.xml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Four reportedly dead in Montreal shooting<br>Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:41 PM BST<br><br>OTTAWA (Reuters) - Four people were killed and at least 16 were injured when two gunmen attacked a college in downtown Montreal, the RDI network quoted unofficial sources as saying.<br><br>"There are said to be ... four dead and 16 wounded. This remains to be confirmed. This comes from unofficial sources," an RDI reporter said. It was not clear whether the death toll included the two gunmen, who government sources said had also died.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-09-13T185235Z_01_N13394701_RTRUKOC_0_UK-CRIME-CANADA-SHOOTING.xml&pageNumber=1&imageid=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=NewsArt-C1-ArticlePage1">today.reuters.co.uk/news/...ticlePage1</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Gunmen reportedly kill four in Montreal<br>Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:54 PM BST<br><br>By Robert Melnbardis<br><br>MONTREAL (Reuters) - Up to three gunman dressed in black army fatigues opened fire in a downtown Montreal college on Wednesday, and early, unconfirmed reports said four people had been killed.<br><br>RDI Television quoted unofficial sources as saying that 16 people may also been injured in the shootout. The network said one gunman had turned his weapon on himself and committed suicide, while a second had been shot and killed by police. This could not yet be confirmed.<br><br>"A suspect has been neutralised, which means he is not shooting any more," said Ian LaFreniere, a police spokesman.<br><br>Montreal police said they believed there were between one and three suspects.<br><br>A health agency official told reporters that at least six people have been taken to hospital, of which three are seriously wounded.<br><br>The shooting took place in the cafeteria of Dawson College, in the heart of Montreal, Canada's second biggest city. The college has around 10,000 students aged from 16 to 19.<br><br>The shooting triggered memories of a 1989 massacre at the Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal, where a gunman killed 14 women before killing himself.<br><br>That gunman, Marc Lepine, 25, left behind a three-page letter claiming that feminists had ruined his life and naming 19 high profile Quebec women he wanted to kill.<br><br>Television pictures from Dawson College showed panicked students fleeing from the campus and a pool of blood on the front steps of the college.<br><br>"I could see him fire several times ... I ran into a classroom. It was like something from a movie," student Michel Boyer told CBC television.<br><br>"He was less than six feet tall but I couldn't see his face ... he was completely covered," he said.<br><br>"To be getting out through an emergency exit and having police officers and SWAT teams run in and say 'Where's the guy?' holding their guns up, words can just not (describe) how frightened you are."<br><br>Boyer said the gunman was dressed in black army fatigues and had been armed with what looked to be a sniper's rifle. "I heard at least 20 shots."<br><br>Robert Soroka, a professor at the college, told Reuters he was in his fourth floor office when heard shots being fired. He immediately ran down the hall and told teachers to keep their students in classrooms and close the doors.<br><br>"This could have been a very bad situation, if it had happened five minutes later when the students would have been exiting their classrooms during the changeover," he said.<br><br>Soroka said the shooting began at 12:45 (1645 GMT) and shots continued to be fired for about 30 minutes. He said he heard at least 20 shots being fired.<br><br>"It was shocking then and it's shocking now," Soroka said of this shooting and that at the Ecole Polytechnique.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-09-13T221503Z_01_N13394701_RTRUKOC_0_UK-CRIME-CANADA-SHOOTING.xml&pageNumber=0&imageid=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=NewsArt-C1-ArticlePage2">today.reuters.co.uk/news/...ticlePage2</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Gunman hurts 20 in Canada shooting<br>Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:15 PM BST<br><br>By Robert Melnbardis<br><br>MONTREAL (Reuters) - A cold-faced gunman dressed in a black trenchcoat opened fire in a downtown Montreal college on Wednesday, leaving a trail of blood and injury and sending students fleeing for their lives.<br><br>Montreal police chief Yvan Delorme said police had shot and killed the single gunman, and 20 people had been injured. "Based on current information, the suspect was killed by the police," he told a news briefing.<br><br>Montreal General Hospital said 11 people had been admitted with gunshot wounds, and six were in critical condition. Some of the injured were taken to other area hospitals.<br><br>"It was the most scary thing that has ever happened to me," student Michael Boyer told CBC Television. "We ran out of the building as a SWAT team was coming in. They were screaming 'Where is he? Where is he?' And when you have 20 police running at you with guns you really know that your life is in danger."<br><br>Eyewitnesses reported blood on the steps to the college, and inside the cafeteria, which is on the second-floor. They said at least 20 shots were fired.<br><br>One television image showed what appeared to be a body under a yellow covering.<br><br>RDI Television had earlier quoted unofficial sources as saying that four people had died in the shooting, including two gunmen. But Delorme said he could not confirm that there was a second gunman. He gave no information on additional deaths.<br><br>"A suspect has been neutralised, which means he is not shooting any more," said Ian LaFreniere, a police spokesman.<br>... <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=madeupname452>madeupname452</A> at: 9/13/06 5:42 pm<br></i>
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Re: Not funny, but..

Postby Sepka » Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:45 pm

Alan Strangis said: <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I hate how online news sites "update" their stories, erasing their previous reports, instead of making additions...<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Write and tell them. The news industry doesn't consider updating as impacting their credibility, since in a fast-developing situation contradictory reports are common. Their theory is to publish what they have, since there's an incredible pressure to always be first with information, and later go back and correct it when the smoke and dust clears, and it's possible to form a clearer picture. News editors seem to take it for granted that everyone will understand that. I daresay most of them think that 'updating' makes them look more, rather than less, reliable.<br> <p>-Sepka the Space Weasel</p><i></i>
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Re: Not funny, but..

Postby AlanStrangis » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:25 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Write and tell them.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I've actually tried that in the past with a few news outlets, and always get form emails saying a variation of "We value reader input and are constantly updating our policies".<br> <p></p><i></i>
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News reports

Postby professorpan » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:34 pm

Also, keep in mind that in scary, chaotic situations, it's inevitable that the early reports will contain some inaccuracies -- hence the updates. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: News reports

Postby sunny » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:39 pm

professorpan, you are right, except this was from an eyewitness account directly after the incident:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"I could see him fire several times ... I ran into a classroom. It was like something from a movie," student Michel Boyer told CBC television.<br><br>"He was less than six feet tall but I couldn't see his face ... he was completely covered," he said.<br><br>"To be getting out through an emergency exit and having police officers and SWAT teams run in and say 'Where's the guy?' holding their guns up, words can just not (describe) how frightened you are."<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Boyer said the gunman was dressed in black army fatigues</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> and had been armed with what looked to be a sniper's rifle. "I heard at least 20 shots."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>It seems strange that an eyewitness, a clollege student, could have been so wrong on what the shooter was wearing. Why was this particular detail changed in later versions? We can only speculate. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: News reports

Postby Dreams End » Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:18 pm

Forgive the repetition in this article. I was particularly interested in "vampirefreaks.com" and the bolded bit at the bottom.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>MONTREAL, Quebec (CNN) -- The alleged gunman in a Montreal college shooting called himself the "Angel of Death" and said in an online profile he liked playing a video game based on the Columbine High School massacre, media reports said Thursday.<br><br>The alleged shooter, identified by Quebec Provincial Police spokesman Jason Jaughir as Kimveer Gill, 25, was killed by police gunfire after a rampage through Dawson College left one woman dead and 19 others injured, six of them critically.<br><br>Six of the 19 wounded people are in intensive care on life support at Montreal General Hospital, Dr. Tarek Razek said. Two of those six are in extremely critical condition, he added.<br><br>Police were searching for a motive Thursday, but in a profile on the Web site vampirefreaks.com, quoted Thursday by the Toronto Star, Gill writes that he wants to die "like Romeo and Juliet -- or in a hail of gunfire." (Watch witness describe escape from "pale-face" gunman -- 4:03)<br><br>One of Gill's postings said he liked to play "Super Columbine Massacre," an Internet-based game that simulated the April 20, 1999, shootings by two students at a Colorado high school that left 13 people dead, The Associated Press reported.<br><br>Police recovered three firearms from Gill after the shootings, Jaughir said.<br><br>The Montreal Gazette and the French-language Journal de Montreal said Gill, from the Montreal suburb of Laval, had published an online gallery of more than 50 photos depicting himself in various poses, holding a Berretta CX4 Storm semi-automatic rifle and wearing a long black trench coat and combat boots. He liked guns, his postings said.<br><br>"His name is Trench. You will come to know him as the Angel of Death," he wrote on his vampirefreaks.com profile, according to the Gazette.<br><br>The Journal de Montreal quoted Gill as writing, "Work sucks, school sucks, life sucks... What else can I say? ... Vengeance is coming."<br><br>The Star said Gill wrote about hating authority figures, including police and teachers, and high school "jocks" for their bullying.<br><br>A version of Gill's Web page shows a tombstone inscribed with his name "Kimveer" and the words "Lived fast died young. Left a mangled corpse,'' the Star reported.<br><br>On the vampirefreaks.com site Thursday morning, a search for "Trench" turned up a message from the administrators of the site saying that the user called Trench "has been deleted."<br><br>The reason for the deletion was left blank.<br><br>Near the home where Gill lived, a neighbor told the AP that Gill was a loner.<br><br>"There were never any friends," AP quoted Louise Leykauf as saying. "He kept to himself. He always wore dark clothing."<br><br>Montreal Police Chief Yvan Delorme said the shooting began at 12:41 p.m. Wednesday, when two police officers -- responding to an unrelated call -- heard gunfire and spotted a gunman outside the school. The officers followed the gunman into the building, engaging him minutes later in an exchange of fire that killed him.<br><br>Police sealed off the 12-acre college campus in the center of the city while students and faculty members streamed into the street and police searched to make sure that only one gunman was on the scene.<br><br>Genevieve Beauchemin, a reporter for CTV, quoted students as saying they were eating lunch in the cafeteria when they heard shots, causing a stampede of people fleeing the room.<br><br>"We were just sitting in class, and we were listening to the teacher and we heard guns going off," one unnamed student said. "We looked outside and everyone was screaming and crying, and there were people that got shot that were running away. (Watch students flee the scene -- 1:3<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>"And then our teacher left, and he came back and said the gunmen were inside and we had to leave."<br><br>Another unnamed student said he saw one shooter, describing him as "6-foot, trench coat, punk."<br><br>"He looked like a student with a trench coat," the young man said. "... One of my friends got shot. We were crawling away and she got shot. I had to drag her out of there." (Watch witnesses describe escaping through pools of blood -- 3:44)<br><br>Another student, Daniel Mightley, 21, said the shooter he saw had a "black mohawk" haircut.<br><br>"I saw his face and he had no emotion in his face at all," he said. "He was walking toward us and he was just shooting." (Watch the scene inside the college, captured on a cell phone -- :50)<br><br>"The school that I once knew wasn't what it looked like a couple of hours previous," Mightley said on CNN's "American Morning" Thursday. "There was bullet holes all over the place, police officers all over the place -- blood in our cafeteria, ... pools of blood in our cafeteria."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The college has 7,000 day students and 3,000 night students, according to the Dawson College Web site.<br><br>Montreal was the scene of another college shooting, almost 17 years ago. Marc Lepine opened fire at Ecole Polytechnique on December 6, 1989, killing 14 women students and wounding 13 other people before killing himself. Lepine left behind a three-page letter blaming feminists for his not being able to get into the school.<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><br>AP reported that vampirefreaks.com came up in a murder investigation earlier this year. A a 23-year-old man and a 12-year-old girl accused in a triple murder in Medicine Hat, Alberta, had profiles on the Web site.<br></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/09/14/montreal.shooting/index.html">cnn</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Anyone heard of that case in Alberta? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: News reports

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<br><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.gatago.com/alt/true-crime/12282738.html">Man and 12-year-old girl charged with murder of southeastern Alberta family</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: News reports

Postby starviego » Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:06 pm

Lone Gunman my ass:<br><br><br><br> "Another witness told CBC News she was smoking outside the college when she saw a tall, white man wearing a long black trench coat walk down the street with a large gun. He was with a number of other people, said the woman.... The man was about 19 years old with body piercings and wore clothing with studs, she said."<br>[Comment: the lone gunman was 25 and of south asian extraction. In his photos posted online, it does not appear he had any piercings]<br><br><br>www.abovetopsecret.com/fo...638/school<br>[poster on ATS, and eyewitness]<br>A girl giving an interview said that she was standing outside the entrance to the school smoking when she noticed 3 guys in trenchcoats walking towards them and one pulled out an automatic of some kind and started shooting at the entrance of the school...<br><br><br>CanWest News Service<br>Frightened students giving wildly varying accounts of what was happening inside. There were several reports saying there was one gunman, while others said there were as many as four.<br><br><br>www.neogaf.com/forum/show...084&page=2<br>poster 'mattx5'<br>I was with the media all day (I co-run the Dawson college newspaper) and the police are definitely supressing some information.<br>The info of 1 gunman doesn't match up with people's descriptions of gunfire taking place over 30-45 minutes, considering the 1 gunman was taken out just 3 minutes after he initially opened fire.<br>This is so horrible, the info has been changing all day, first 4 dead, than none, than 1, now 2? I'm losing track, ah jesus.<br>I was in the basement gymnasium when this happened and only found out at 1:30 (shooting happend at 12:41). The radio was on and cut to a breaking news report saying the school had been evacuated, that 4 gunmen were in the school.<br><br><br>cnn.com at 5pm, 9-13-06<br>A SWAT team was in the college because "we believe there might be other suspects inside," a police spokesman said.<br>--A recorded message at the college administration office said two gunmen were killed...<br><br><br>MSNBC News Services<br>Updated: 2:59 p.m. ET Sept. 13, 2006<br>Student Devansh Smri Vastava said he saw a man in military fatigues storm the school’s cafeteria..... Other witnesses said the man wore a black trench coat.<br><br><br>Andie Bennett, CHUM Radio's Team 990<br>She says students have described at least one suspect as a white male with a beard..... One witness recounts tales of seeing an armed Goth-garbed male with long black hair in the building<br><br><br>940 MontrealAM radio talk show<br>one witness said the shooter had long stringy hair, another saw 'spiky' hair sticking out from under a mask.<br>Caller identifiied herself as Danielle, a student: shooter had blond hair, "faux hawk," not a mohawk; had a mask around the face....<br>--"a lot of students have seen many, many ...like a lot of shooters..."<br>--"a lot of what students were hearing on the news is not right"<br>--"anybody you ask at Dawson....there's no way it was only one shooter/"<br><br><br>www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/09/13/shots-dawson.html<br>Public transit officials temporarily closed the subway system's green line, which serves Dawson College, in order to allow a SWAT team to sweep the underground stations.<br><br><br>www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/09/13/shots-dawson.html<br>Earlier reports had said as many as three shooters walked into Dawson College. At one point, police had told local media outlets that two gunmen were dead and a third was still at large.<br><br><br>TorontoStar 9-13-06<br>Seventeen-year-old Elizabeth Gagnon: She spent the next two hours in that class withother frightened students, listening to the gunfire outside. “It would stop for a minute, and then start again.” Gagnon estimated that she heard at least 30 gunshots. “It was continuous. There had to be more than one shooter,” she said.<br><br><br>CanWest News Service<br>It is believed two of the dead were gunmen. One report quoted police saying two gunman were dead — one had been shot and one had taken his own life.<br>[Comment: Police at first said the shooter had shot himself, then insisted that they had killed the gunman. ]<br><br><br>www.canada.com/montrealgazette<br>"The police came out with the guy in handcuffs and there was a long trail of blood behind him," said Sonny Chiasson, an Alexis Nihon(adjacent shopping center) maintenance employee. "He was bleeding heavily from his upper chest. (Then he) fell to the ground and the police kept trying to talk to him."<br>Many minutes went by. "But eventually they just put a towel over his face because he was dead."<br>[Comment: these wounds don't sound like they were self inflicted]<br><br><br>940 MontrealAM radio talk show<br>--A caller called Adam said his sister saw a trenchcoater with buldging coat walking down a street near the school; this was after a description of the gunman had already been broadcast. Police scene converging on that area.<br>--Caller identified himself as James Santos, student held at gunpoint by gunman(on the second floor)..... Gunman told him to get up and stand between himself and police. Gunman told him and another student to drag a "heavy, heavy" bag a few feet, gunman then collapsed to floor from shot to the knee(blood started pouring out), he then pulled handgun from his trenchcoat and put it under his chin and shot himself.<br>[Comment: Medical Examiner now says shooter shot himself and had another gunshot would to his arm.]<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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