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Bloodlines/ Springmeier

Postby Sweejak » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:09 pm

I don't know if this has been posted before. It is a an almost 300 page pdf file written in 1995 by Fritz Springmeier.<br>Having a temporary (I hope) mental overload I have not had the time to read it but a friend recommended the section on Disney.<br><br>Also a quick and cursory google turned up this.<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.eaec.org/expose/FritzSpringmeier2.htm">www.eaec.org/expose/Fritz...meier2.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Being new to Springmeier and pressed for time I wonder if anyone has comments on his work and background.<br><br>ooops, here is the .pdf<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://veritastruth.holyconspiracy.com/Bloodline.pdf">veritastruth.holyconspira...odline.pdf</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sweejak@rigorousintuition>Sweejak</A> at: 7/6/05 12:18 pm<br></i>
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Re: Bloodlines/ Springmeier

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:18 pm

I don't trust him, and I haven't heard good things about him from survivors whose opinions I value.<br><br>I made passing mention of him in <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/04/if-you-want-somebody-you-can-trust.html" target="top">this</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> post, regarding Gunderson's hooking up with McMartin parent Jackie McGauley:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Perhaps this wouldn't bother me if we didn't already have the example of so-called Monarch deprogrammers becoming intimate with their subjects. For instance, "ex-CIA" Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien, Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler. I can't assess their intentions, and whether they represent another covert layer of control. I'll just say I imagine that accessing certain programming must be a great temptation for some men.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 7/6/05 12:20 pm<br></i>
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Re: Bloodlines/ Springmeier

Postby Sweejak » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:35 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I imagine that accessing certain programming must be a great temptation for some men.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Yeah, even good men.<br><br>I don't know about you guys but I have periods where I just can't input any more info and the .pdf is full of it, still I feel compelled to distribute it.<br> <br>I have so many unread books around here that they could be considered a building material, which leads me to think sometimes that that is the plan.<br><br>And another thought about the process of mind control at the risk of taking this off topic ....<br><br>The whole nation is subject to a kind of pedophilia and, perhaps stretching things a bit, the use of trauma and rape, this time thru political acts and national atrocities like 9-11 serve to create a national split personality, apparently the main step to effective mind control. This is heavily reinforced by the media which seems to be all trauma, mindless escape, gloating group mockery and pronouncements of key Orwellian "truths"; they hate us because we are free. Pick any Bush speech.<br><br>They try to use the media to involve us in the crime, make it stylish while it demoralizes us all. Watching this drivel IS torture. One idiot event after another, and I'm talking about things like failing to find WMD, shockingly obvious, yet somehow this is compartmentalized and the war goes on. I'm talking about the up front and in your face hypocrisy. Perhaps the Romans did this with their coliseum in a mass torture spectacle. Ever wonder why so many thousands of photos of Abu Ghraib were released... why things are able to be done out in the open, from stealing elections to killing the economy?<br><br>To those who see what's going on it's in your face, showing you that yes, they know you see what's going on but you can't do anything about it, your a victim, so what, we'll medicate you soon enough. <br><br>"There is no defense against an evil which only the victims and the perpetrators know exists."<br>-- Christopher X., Freemason.<br><br>Doesn't it seem like the nation is suffering from multiple personality disorder? You have normal people robotically keeping the system alive, you have 'normal' kids educated by the system perpetrating the torture at Abu Ghraib.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Mind Control USA

Postby Col Quisp » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:50 pm

Sweejak said:<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:purple;">The whole nation is subject to a kind of pedophilia and, perhaps stretching things a bit, the use of trauma and rape, this time thru political acts and national atrocities like 9-11 serve to create a national split personality, apparently the main step to effective mind control.</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>That is very well put. And they have done their job well. Despite the fact that many people believe there is a cover-up in 911, nothing has happened. This has been going on for so long now -- the control has been perfected. <br><br>It's like trying to wake from a night terror -- your muscles are paralyzed and although in the dream you are screaming, your fellow citizen hears only a muffled, "ooh ooh." <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: Springmeir, National Split Personality

Postby Starman » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:15 pm

Yikes -- But I think you're onto something major that could help to explain the incredible idiocies, hypocricies and apparant apathy about monstrously-foul crimes and abuses of power and ... Jeez, its rather overwhelming sometimes (as likely intended), but only if one is tuned-in enough (and not distraced by mindless infotainment drivel), it's in-your-face obvious.<br><br>I've been grappling with the larger societal implications of stuff like the 911 coup d'etat and the greater institutionalization of violence and a Military Mindset -- Of course the public is manipulated by elaborate PR campaigns on behalf of special-interests, both commercial and political. But this reality is little-addressed let alone acknowledged by the information gatekeepers. Also evident, the mass media has been impressed into serving the corporatocracy's agenda.<br><br>Ditto on the information overload. My initial, introductory reading of Springmeir's Bloodlines was favorable, just in light of detailed information tracing the deeply-buried history of ruling-family dynasties in the Illuminati NWO thesis. It's a rather unique view of history that he provides, which also makes it hard to judge in terms of accuracy. One almost has to be a full-time scholar to do enough research to test whether writers on obscure or hidden topics --like that of powerful families influencing historical events behind the scenes to a considerable extent-- The Bush-family links to financing Hitler's empire is a case in point, which is almost --if not completely-- outside the purview of 'official' history.<br><br>I'm not familiar with Springmeir outside of his authorship of Bloodlines -- guess I'll have to add the question of his credibility and possible ideological/political agenda to my 'list' of Things To Be Better Informed About.<br><br>I'd like to find out more re: issue of widespread, coordinated public conditioning/programming. That may be one of the most crucial issues of today. It could go a long way towards explaining the public's seeming tacit accomodation with outrages and their own increasingly servile passivity -- like most people are on a 'form' of Prozac that makes them compliant and obediant serfs to Empire. REALLY freaky shit.<br>Starman <p></p><i></i>
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Re: re: Springmeir, National Split Personality

Postby Sweejak » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:55 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It's like trying to wake from a night terror -- your muscles are paralyzed and although in the dream you are screaming, your fellow citizen hears only a muffled, "ooh ooh." <br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Whew. That's very graphic.<br><br>One of my darkest days, before the war started, was on a forum of long lost high school buddies... after spending months debating the lies being fed to us.<br><br>The night the war started the hills around here were filled with gunfire in celebration of the start of the war. I think I felt not paralyzed but maybe in shock at the giant rolling wave about to roll over us and the futile feeling of nobody hearing me. <br>Did my personality split? Not yet I don't think. <br><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img101.echo.cx/img101/738/stormysundayv41we.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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springmeir

Postby albion » Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:10 pm

I stopped reading right here:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>An Illuminati Grand Master once said that the world is a stage and we are all actors.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Well, actually I read a little further, but I made up my mind at that. There's way too much useful stuff to read without this kind of hyperbolic, paranoid, ahistorical claptrap. If I'm gonna look for info on the "Illuminati" I'm at least gonna get it from someone like Carroll Quigley. <p></p><i></i>
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He's in jail

Postby dreamsend » Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:53 am

Springmeier is in jail for armed robbery and has ties with the Army of God. I know frame-ups are possible, but I think the evidence in this case was pretty clear. Here's an article from someone who was involved with him. I don't know the author's background but I think it says a lot:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.eaec.org/expose/FritzSpringmeier2.htm">www.eaec.org/expose/Fritz...meier2.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>A collection of his writings can be found here:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.whale.to/b/sp/springmeier_h.html">www.whale.to/b/sp/springmeier_h.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>There is on this site a summary of bloodlines with the helpful information that: <br><br> "In mockery and imitation of God’s 12 tribes, Satan blessed 12 bloodlines. One of these bloodlines was the Ishmaeli bloodline from which a special elite line developed alchemy, assassination techniques, and other occult practices. One bloodline was Egyptian/Celtic/Druidic from which Druidism was developed. One bloodline was in the orient and developed oriental magic. One lineage was from Canaan and the Canaanites. It had the name Astarte, then Astorga, then Ashdor, and then Astor. The tribe of Dan was used as a Judas Iscariot type seed. The royalty of the tribe of Dan have descended down through history as a powefful Satanic bloodline. The 13th or final blood line was copied after God’s royal lineage of Jesus. This was the Satanic House of David with their blood which they believe is not only from the House of David but also from the lineage of Jesus, who they claim had a wife and children. The 13th Satanic bloodline was instilled with the direct seed of Satan so that they would not only carry Christ’s blood--but also the blood of his "brother" Lucifer. "<br><br>Folks, RI is a great site, but there are many bad sites out there. One thing I've been looking into is how so much of the Illuminati conspiracy stuff is really masking anti-Semitic garbage that echoes the thoughts of Hitler himself. Literally. I don't mean criticism of Israel or Zionism, I mean "Jews are a Satanic race who control the entire world" kinda stuff. <p></p><i></i>
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9/11 and rape

Postby Dreams End » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:30 am

You know, my wife has Dissociative Identity Disorder (formerly called multiple personality disorder.) That is how my interest in this got started. Luckily (I think?) no memories have emerged of mind control or ritual abuse. She does have buried memories but so far they are proving to be of abuse by loved ones and a rape later in life. (Actually, she remembered she'd been raped but thought she had been drugged as she couldn't remember anything but brief flashes. Turned out an alter held the memory for her. During one ill advised hypnosis session she suddenly realized the full memory was there but the therapist, at her an my bidding, pulled her out before too much emerged. It's no longer considered good practice to simply relive such trauma unadulterated like that.) <br><br>In any event, I bring it up because she had a nervous breakdown a year and a half ago but in looking back it's clear that 9/11 was one of the main factors that started her slide. Stress at work and some physical pain she was in contributed as well, but 9/11 definitely began tipping the balance.<br><br>The feeling of powerlessness and even dissociation she experienced on that day makes me think "rape" isn't a bad description. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Mind Control USA

Postby professorpan » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:41 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>That is very well put. And they have done their job well. Despite the fact that many people believe there is a cover-up in 911, nothing has happened. This has been going on for so long now -- the control has been perfected. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Very good point, Colonel Q.<br><br>This came to me via a mailing list, so I can't link to the attribution. But I found it extremely pertinent:<br><br>Mike Ruppert, the peak oil and 9-11 guy who wrote the *big* book<br>about how Vice President Cheney orchestrated 9-11, is now saying<br>that "... politically and legally 9-11 is a dead issue. There's <br>no place to go with it anymore. The 2004 election is over. The <br>Kean Commission <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.9-11commission.gov/">www.9-11commission.gov/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> has closed its<br>doors. Congress has finished its hearings. The mainstream <br>media is not paying any attention to it. The courts are corrupt.<br>There's no place to go with 9-11, and it's time we got used to <br>that. There's not going to be any justice for 9-11. We have to<br>stop looking at the elephant that just ran over us, and look at <br>the angry herd of elephants that are getting ready to trample us<br>right now. We can't stop them. There's no legal check and <br>balance left in our system to address 9-11. Everybody signed off<br>on it. What we have to focus on are the immediate threats, which<br>to us are all economic right now. The U.S. Government intends to<br>bring down the U.S. economy this winter. Inflation, blackouts, <br>fuel shortages, rationing. So? Get out of debt get out of debt<br>get out of debt. Forget 9-11." <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Mind Control USA

Postby Sweejak » Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:35 pm

I can't blow off Springmeier entirely. His stuff seems pretty good for instance:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.whale.to/b/sp/f2.html">www.whale.to/b/sp/f2.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>There is little doubt in my mind that using him is poison though.<br><br>===========================<br>Ruppert caught all kinds of hell for that. Essentially he is right as you can see by going to any of a number of forums where 9-11 evidence it thrashed and hashed. Very divisive.<br>I use this analogy in order to move on, but I still keep an eye out for smoking guns in 9-11 physical evidence.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Let me ask you, what is it that people remember about the Reichstag Fire? The type of Molotov used? Was it really a Molotov, was it diesel or kerosene? Was the fuel throw or placed?<br>No, nobody remembers and if you dig into it you will STILL find controversy. <br>The Reichstag Fire is known for the political actions taken in the name of the Reichstag Fire. It will be the same with 9-11, eventually.<br><br>We all need to know the physical evidence and it is not to be ignored, it just has to be set in the proper place and remember, Occam's razor cuts both ways.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>======================<br><br>Rape of the national psyche... What are the techniques used for recovery? Can they be used on a national scale as well? <p></p><i></i>
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