Interesting item in NYT - Krazy Kurdish Mind Kontrol?

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Interesting item in NYT - Krazy Kurdish Mind Kontrol?

Postby anonymous » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:17 pm

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://tinyurl.com/crbcu">NYT article on Kurd Psycho</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><snip><br>A local shopkeeper and mechanical engineer, the sheik says he and his followers beheaded, dismembered, gunned down, blackmailed and raped fellow citizens here in Iraqi Kurdistan for as long as a decade, until he was found out and arrested.<br><br><snip><br>But Sheik Zana's confessions, delivered in Kurdish, stand out because he and his followers had a habit of videotaping not only what appear to be horrific murders and rapes, but also sex among themselves and with the young men whom they were trying to recruit for their cause.<br><br><snip><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Sheik Zana has said that he was closely affiliated with extremist Islamic terrorist groups in Iraq, and that much of what he did was a kind of <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">training program intended to produce ruthless killers.</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Interesting enough to pass along, anyways. <p></p><i></i>
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bah!i had noticed a mini pattern of these stories

Postby hmm » Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:16 pm

and was working on a post but i hadnt gotten round to formulating it properly and had gotten distracted a few times.<br>I'll see if i can dig up the link to another story i found with another group of "al-qaida" terrorists that had a weird gay/sex/violence/necrophile fixation.<br>These 2 stories would have me believe this is intelligence agencies attacking the "manhood" of these "terrorists" so as to render them impotent or some weird psy-op type thinking.<br>i find it otherwise quite strange that trauma based behaviour modification is being pushed as a common element to terror cells by the media.<br><br>this is what i have without translating from dutch<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/545">www.militantislammonitor....cle/id/545</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"According to the Dutch papers an 'archive' of pictures and videos of atrocities was found in the home of Mohammed Bouyeri, the Muslim who is on trial for the murder of Theo van Gogh.<br><br>Translation MIM:<br><br>"...According to a justice official, it was remarkable to find such an enormous amount of horrific and sometimes detailed pictures, often with sound, of executions, beheadings, hangings, slashing of throats, amputation of limbs and genitals, stonings and other forms of torture .' They gave, he said, " a clear picture of the morbid preoccupations of the suspect...""<br><br>from a TERRIBLY bad blog but the only reference in english to the "sex with corpse" video found at his home:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://martijn.religionresearch.org/?p=910">martijn.religionresearch.org/?p=910</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"After quoting several texts of Mohammed B., and telling what the video showed that were found in his home (horrific films with amputations, beheading and having sex with a corps) the judge wonders what happened to Mohammed B. for having these hateful thoughts."<br><br>here is a picture of one dutch newspaper pushing this story (its pay to read the full story and in dutch,but it shows the "quality" of the newspaper),i'll give translations for the screaming headlines.<br><br>somewhere at the top of the page among the clutter one can see:<br>hofstadgroep sexbende =<br>"name of terror group" porngang<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://telegraaf-i.telegraaf.nl/daily/2005/7/16/TE/TE_2S_20050716_1/pagina.php">telegraaf-i.telegraaf.nl/...pagina.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>and the main article:<br><br>hofstadgroep blijkt ordinaire sexsekte =<br>"name of terrorgroup" turns out to be banal sexsect<br><br>Preken en Porno! = Preaching and Porn!<br><br>Jonge vrouwen misbruikt door islamitische 'loverboys' = young women abused by islamic 'pimps'<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://telegraaf-i.telegraaf.nl/daily/2005/7/16/TE/TE_2S_20050716_5/pagina.php">telegraaf-i.telegraaf.nl/...pagina.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>as you can tell im not very impressed by the sources but it sure is weird.<br>and argg i have been posting to much<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Takfir Wal Hijrah

Postby albion » Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:50 pm

This might be something or it might be nothing, but Mohammed Bouyeri's "Hofstad Network" is rumored to have been influenced by and/or related to the Takfir Wal Hijrah sect. Some info on them:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>[...] Many of their members were, in the early 1980s backed, financed, armed and even given travel documents by the CIA, British intelligence and other intelligence agencies in return for their support in the fight against the Russians in Afghanistan.<br><br>[...] recruitment efforts by the Takfir in Morocco emphasize that a criminal background is not an obstacle in joining the Jihad. Experience with forgery, credit-card fraud, and knowledge of arms dealers and people traffickers are essential skills for terrorists.<br><br>[...] The Algerian GIA has long been known to run organized criminal networks for drug trafficking. Many Takfir converts were involved in drugs and pretty crime and were recruited while serving a prison sentence.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.newcriminologist.co.uk/news.asp?id=1117453364">www.newcriminologist.co.u...1117453364</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Hofstad Network:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstad_Network">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstad_Network</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Takfir Wal Hijrah:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takfir_wal-Hijra">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takfir_wal-Hijra</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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