please help me

[GDN01]

Since all this weirdness began - someone has come into my life that I don't whether to trust or not.<br><br>He is from Cuba. He recently told me his father is a free mason. <br><br>Are the masons of Cuba separate from the elite here in this country?<br><br><on edit><br>A friend of mine thinks I am in danger now - I don't know where to turn. Is there a way to know? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gdn01>GDN01</A> at: 2/14/06 3:12 am<br></i>

[havanagila]

There are probably better experts here, but two things off the top-<br>women's shelter if you feel at risk of bodily harm, make up a story and get in there for a while, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>if</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> you are in a nice area where the shelters are livable.<br>Masons, despite the tendency on this board to minimize the problem, are sometimes cover for more sinister cults. at least this is what I found out, quite recently. <br>The way you sounded here recently, make sure you don't get yourself in a looney bin, unless you know a good place you want to check into. <br>It sounds like you'd be better off in a trusted friend's place for two weeks or so. <br>I'd say, take use of this board and spill out the beans (without risking yourself), namely, make a reality check. but you need to be more generous with the details, or PM someone on the board that you trust on these issues. Everyone said crazy things here...you are not judged. at least not by me, and i'm sure others who have an understanding that real stuff can seem wierd and that part of the description can be mingled with speculations which prove to be unreal. you have to start somewhere.<br>I found this board relatively helpful, some are really open, others are experts, and the rest can be a GOOD reality test, even if it annoys you to get those skeptical voices. at least the general atmosphere is seriously interested in sorting these things out. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[hmm]

i'm a bit hesitant to give advice, you might want to read this article regarding cuban masonry..<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.rosslyntemplars.org.uk/CubanMasons.htm">www.rosslyntemplars.org.u...Masons.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>it implies that cuban masonry is involved in dissident activity,historically cuban dissidents tend to have dubious connections to american agencies.<br><br>That said,one cant always automatically blame children for the supposed "sins" of their fathers..<br><br>I know how difficult it can be to trust someone new, but I cant judge if you are in danger, but you come across as a survivor, you have a survival instinct,gut feeling, is it telling you anything?<br>If you trust your friend and their judgement, and your own instincts agree.....<br><br>i know words are inadequate at times like these,but still, i wish you well <p></p><i></i>

[sunny]

Dearest GDNO1, I am so glad to hear from you! At least we know you are still around after the weirdness here on the board.<br>My best advice: if you have known and trusted your friend for some time, listen to him/her. Move in with the friend for a while and contact law enforcement and get a restraining order. Believe me, anyone can get a restraining order against anybody. If your friend knows and loves you, they are not whistling dixie. Do something NOW, and don't wait until it is too late. <p></p><i></i>

[Rigorous Intuition]

In the context of the weirdness, I'd say if you have doubts about trusting someone, don't.<br><br>Take care, and good to hear from you. <p></p><i></i>

[GDN01]

I've just known him for 5 weeks, and the only real red flag is this free mason thing. We were talking about church and religion and he was trying to tell me why he did not go to church. He has a very heavy accent so it is hard to understand what he is saying sometimes. I thought he was saying something about "monsoons"<br>and he would shake his head no and try to explain again. Finally he grabbed my hand and said - there is a handshake, this means first degree, and this is second... And he was showing me the different holds used. <br><br>I wondered why he would show me the handshakes - was he trying to see if I knew how to respond or was it an innocent attempt to explain what he was saying? I just froze up - inside I thought "this is not a good thing." <br><br>I'm still very confused about things, trying to figure out what is going in my life. But I decided that anyone who harrasses me here wouldn't be doing so if they actually had a way to contact me in real life, so I'm not going to let something here scare me.<br><br>And there are some things, like this Free Mason connection, that I don't know where else to go for input. A good friend of mine who knows everything about my life, she's worried about the fact that he has connections to the masons. She thinks this could be the source of some of the weirdness in my life recently. I just don't know. <br><br>There are no grounds for a restraining order - who would I restrain? This man has done nothing in the least threatening - I've been very happy with him. But a few things are beginning to not add up. <br> <p></p><i></i>

[havanagila]

Just to remind you that the weirdness started when you said you met someone who knew things about you, and kind of "second guessed" you, in a manner you thought was alarming. then there were the weird doro messages here. that's it.<br>I don't know what your history is, but if you had a PTSD history, any love affair could trigger the demons, when in fact there is nothing bad there. Intimacy can be interpreted as the old, abusive overbearing know-all controlling perp (especially if you were a child victim). <br>Being a mason or family of mason could have freaked you out. But, there was something. don't ignore.<br>As for the safety of this board. NOt so simple. in my first weeks I certainly felt energy coming my way from the board, not in the sense of "energy" but someone very intently directing thoughts and trying to "fish" or violate the natural space/boundaries. it was NOT a benign or good influence and it was very real. In addition, there are folks on this board that are connected to other folks and that's in real life. And, finally, i know for myself, that I bring along with me my stalkers everywhere, especially in cyberspace and I have cautiouned at least one member here, who had private emails with me, that my email/cyber is not free, and the people who sit on my tail/ass are as mean as you can think, and well equipped, and bored I think cause god knows who has the time to spend on stalking a person so thoroghly. So, i didn't mean this board is sterile, not at all, but there's nothing here that's not in your life. and this is an opportunity to bounce thoughts as crazy as can get. <br>There is also the rare possibility of attempt at MC via internet/pc, but then again if you were targetted, its not solely from being here on the board. <br> <p></p><i></i>

[Avalon]

While it may be possible to generalize about groups of people, it is not always useful to assume that all individuals in those groups will display the same patterns of thought or behavior.<br><br>I don't think anyone here knows the individual or the situation well enough to give you specific advice on this. <p></p><i></i>

[Project Willow]

Hi GDNO1,<br><br>The only thing I can say is trust your instincts. The difficulty can be figuring out what they are, especially in some of our cases where what we hear inside can be misleading.<br><br>I've learned to recognize some hand signals associated with the masonic cult that I grew up with. Whenever anyone displays these signals, it's a red flag for me. Talking about the handshakes is another thing, but if it makes you uncomfortable, that's the important issue.<br><br>It's good to hear from you...stay safe. <p></p><i></i>

[havanagila]

PW, can you describe those gestures ? and what are the handshakes ? or is there a link ? thanks.<br>(the only thing I can remember about hands, re my situation was people who grew long nails of the little finger of the hands. ) <p></p><i></i>

[blanc]

so glad to hear from you again. trust your own instincts, don't rationalise them away, or make excuses for behaviour you think is disturbing or odd. keep posting and work out where your anchor points are. (Gift of Fear, by someone whose name I forget just now, is a good basic guide to recognising how one can ignore warning signals.) Its true we can't generalise about groups of people, nor know the person you speak of, but what is there to lose if you just be unavailable for a while? <p></p><i></i>

[GDN01]

Thank you, everyone, for your comments. It is obvious that I have "trust issues". I second guess myself all the time - worried that either I'm missing signs, or that I'm over-reacting to other signs. I do have PTSD and yes, it does make it difficult to be in a relationship. This man from Cuba has been very nice - this is the first time I've dated anyone in years. And I hate having this sense of fear everytime I meet someone - and I try to tell myself it's just my past issues. Another thing that has begun to bother me, and as I start to put this into words, I can't believe I have not been more bothered before. He has two roommates that I have never met. They are there at the house when I go over, but they never come out of their rooms. I can hear them moving about sometimes, if we go to his room, I can hear them go out to the kitchen or leave. But I have never seen them or been introduced. This is odd isn't it?<br><br>After Doro showed up and wrote that I am being handled, something happened that made me think this may be true. PW - what do you make of this? I was driving on the interstate and suddenly had this feeling that something bad was going to happen. I was looking at the guages on the dashboard to see if something was wrong and was feeling really panicked. Then this vision flashed through my mind - I could see myself pulling my car over to the side of the road and then getting out of the car, and then I walked right in front of an 18-wheeler. As soon as this vision ended, one of the tires on my car blew out. I had to pull off on the side, just like in my vision. I was so scared I was shaking. I was afraid to get out of my car, afraid I would do what I had seen in the vision. I called 911 on my cell phone and asked for police assistance and stayed in my car until the police showed up to help me. When I got out of the car and saw my tire, it looked like it had been cut all the way around and a chunk of the tire was missing. The police was even shocked by the condition of the tire, said he had never seen a tire do this. It was nearly blown in half. The police was very nice and changed the tire for me and then escorted me to an auto shop to get the spare replaced. <br>I have wondered if this was a message, or was the vision something programmed and if I had gotten out, would I have walked in front of a truck. Or is it all just a strange coincidence? <br>The vision was so vivid, I can recall every detail still. <br>Does anyone have any insight to share? <p></p><i></i>

[Project Willow]

Havana,<br>It involves touching the face and ears in diffferent ways. If you find yourself in a public space with an itchy face, ask inside what it may mean. For me the signals were automatic, almost unconscious behavior for the longest time. <br><br>GDNO1<br>It sounds like you are a bit psychic at least! I am glad that you are safe and not injured. A blown tire on a freeway is scary no matter what. You gained some witnesses too, if indeed your tire was tampered with.<br><br>I have thoughts of self harm all the time. Sometimes they are like momentary visions or plans. They come from insiders who have that urge, and often it's programming. I let the thoughts pass through me and get to those parts when I can. It's not unusual at all. <br><br>I may have said this before, and it doesn't mean I'm assuming you have a similar history, but perhaps it's some small comfort I can offer. Many of us who've come forward in very public ways are still here. We face various reminders, threats, and a few stalkers now and then, but most of us are alive and relatively well. The majority of the time, the perps engage in those activities simply to keep us in fear. <br><br>An aside... I don't drive at all, and haven't in almost a decade. Panic associated with driving seems to be a theme among some mc survivors. <br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Iroquois]

GDN01, the important thing is that you are Ok. And, I don't just mean you happen to be Ok. You foresaw a bad event was in the works, and you beat it. That's an exellent example of why you should feel confident in yourself and your abilities. To say the least, you don't give yourself nearly enough credit. <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

The tire...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>You saved the remnants of the blown tire, I hope. <p></p><i></i>