Hello people,<br>First I must confess to being the "perpetrator" responsible for that post to the mind control site. I posted it to them a few years ago, not seriously expecting them to accept it on the basis of their claim that they only posted "genuine" replies. When I saw that they had, I didn't tell them to remove it because I wanted to see what sort of response it would get from the public: a few years down the track, I finally have my answer in the form of this discussion. On a board that is obviously a skeptic's forum yet! So, while we're engaging in "rigourous discussion", I'll gladly provide you all with some.<br><br>A quick Google of the word "Arnagest" will reveal first the mind control post, then my website, then some boards on which I've discussed Arnagest, then this discussion (which is how I found this) - plus the usual dispersion of irrelevant spam by webmasters who know how to exploit Google's search engine behaviour. Following the relevant links, you'll see that I describe Arnagest as a quasi-dream life experience I have, so I won't go into the details here of the nature of the experience. If you're interested, do the Google search and you'll soon have a fairly good picture of where I stand on this.<br><br>Now, before I go further, let's look at what we mean by the words "exist" and "real", because these are words that are obviously close to your hearts. Existence does not necessarily imply reality in a physical sense because there are things we say exist that are not physically present in our universe. Example: Microsoft Windows. There's nothing you can point to and say "that's Windows". Is it the screen? The computer? The hard drive? The install CD? No. It is none of these things. Windows is nothing more than a conceptual set of binary numbers that when passed through the electronic circuitry of a computer causes it to behave in a certain way. Yet nobody will say that Windows doesn't exist, even though it has no tangible "real" presence, because millions of people around the world use it every day.<br><br>So what of, say, God? By the above argument, God could be said to exist because real or not, this concept affects and influences the lives of millions around the globe and has played an instrumental role in shaping civilisation. In this context, God is nothing more than a conceptual set of moral ideas that when passed through the electrochemical circuitry of a human brain causes it to behave in a certain way. Just as there are millions of computers running Windows, there are millions of human brains running God. If Windows exists, then, so does God. So does Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, leprechauns, elves, pixies - and the Arnagest. They exist because people know about them and they have influenced human lives as a result of their existence.<br><br>So, now we've established that God does in fact exist, how many of you are atheists who adamantly maintain that God is not real (as opposed to "doesn't exist")? The atheist who makes such statements about God labours under a belief system as unprovable as that of the most devout Christian or Muslim who ever knelt and prayed before an altar. In reality, the only possible
factual answer to the question of God's reality is "I don't know." Nobody on this planet has enough information about the Universe to give any other answer.<br><br>Now, looking through the posts on this topic I can see that all of you cherish the view that
anyone who claims to be in contact with an alien civilisation has be a few chips short of a motherboard somewhere. In most cases, that assumption is probably true. But it is still an assumption that can neither be proved nor disproved. It is predicated on the belief that either alien civilisations are not real or that, real or not, no alien civilisation has ever approached or influenced the Earth. But none of you have enough information about intelligent life in the Universe to be able to make that statement with any degree of factual certainty.<br><br>Now in my experiences with the Arnagest (be they purely in my own head or not), I have seen the Arnagest use telepathy to influence the minds of beings on pre-space worlds (like Earth) in such a way as to lead them down a particular course of cultural development. Now even if telepathy is not naturally possible, the technology to emulate it could certainly be devised by a sufficiently advanced civilisation. Human brains function on electrochemical impulses that can be influenced by the application of known physical forces. With a sufficient degree of knowledge about how the brain works, the direct transmission of information into a brain is certainly within the realm of achievability.<br><br>So what if such an alien civilisation has in fact operated upon certain human beings with the aim of producing a specific result or of obtaining certain information about humans? Nobody would ever know if this was real or not. I can tell you this: in my experience with the Arnagest, dream or otherwise, I was directed to apprise others of the Arnagest's existence, and to report on the response I got. When I next go to sleep and "wake up" there, I will inform them of what I read on this forum. Perhaps that information will go no further than the confines of my own skull. But you cannot dismiss the possibility at least that somewhere out there, there just might be an entity that receives that information, and then makes a decision about the Earth that may well seriously affect it in the years to come. For my part, the only answer I can give is "I don't know".<br><br>So you all had better hope that you're right. Because if you're wrong and something like the Arnagest is in fact real out there, the ramifications for Earth and its people run far beyond anything you can even begin to imagine.<br><br>Think about it.<br> <p></p><i></i>
by 4911 » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:45 pm 