MK is of Nazi Project Paperclip derivation

by **The Omega Man** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:23 pm

Just resurrecting a great post by Project Willow on May 7, 2006 where he stated: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> "I don't know this for certain, I've just always made the assumption: MK = Mind Kontrolle (German spelling) Mind control. It would be interesting to find out.<hr></blockquote> The original question was: What does the MK in the MK Ultra/naomi etc. stand for? and I congratulate him for being on the right trail as the MK is indeed of Nazi derivation. Over 600 Nazi mind scientists were transplanted into the U.S. by Operation Sunrise and Project Paperclip. Over 71 were additionally transplanted into Canada during Operation Matchbox collaborating with MK-ULTRA counterpart Ewen Cameron, as they worked with the CIA's Sidney Gottlieb in the U.S. These MK projects and operations were spawned at the hands of these Nazis and amalgamated within the NSA, CIA, ONI, NASA Research & Development teams here. We are now living in the continuity of the Third Reich known quite covertly as the Fourth Reich. So in a way you could say that the Nazis never lost the war, they just turned to their sponsors and compatriots and went underground. Here's some compelling evidence: <a href="http://fpiarticle.blogspot.com/2006/04/most-dangerous-game.html">The Most Dangerous Game</a> The direct translation of mind control into German actually reads - Sinnessteuerung and if you separate the two terms you have: Mind = Verstand Control = Steuerung If you look at it from a bastardized German pronounciation of the english 'Mind Control', it might phonetically translate to 'Mind Kontrolle'. There is a definitive miltary/intelligence classification to the MK in MK-ULTRA, DELTA, NAOMI, however it has still not been successfully uncovered and determined by investigators and researchers as of yet. It may have a Latin origin, or even something completely different that follows a logical code pattern. One thing's for sure, it is a National Security state secret steadfastly kept away from public uncoding.... for now.

by **DrDebugDU** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:34 pm

No, because the German would be Verstandsteuerung. "mind" comes from "gemynd" ( <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mind">dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mind</a> ) which has an Old English root and "verstand" comes from "standan" ( <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=[b">dictionary.reference.com/search?q=[b</a>]<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Unit 731 was a secret military medical unit of the Imperial Japanese Army that researched biological warfare and other topics through human experimentation during the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945) and World War II era. (1) The unit was disguised as a water purification unit. It was based in Pingfang, near the city of Harbin in northeastern China, the region which was then part of the puppet state of Manchukuo. Various Eastern and Western sources estimate anywhere from 3,000 to 200,000 Chinese, Korean, Mongolians, Allied civilians and POWs (especially Russian POWs) were directly or indirectly killed by Unit 731's experiments. (2) So what happened to Unit 731 where Americans troops were used as guinea pigs? After Imperial Japan surrendered to the Allies in 1945, Douglas MacArthur became the Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers, rebuilding Japan during the Allied occupation. At the end of the war however, he secretly granted immunity to the physicians of Unit 731 in exchange for providing America with their research on biological weapons. The United States believed that the research data was valuable because the allies had never publicly conducted this type of human experimentation, due to potential political fallout. Also, the U.S. did not want any other nation, particularly the Soviet Union, to acquire data on biological weapons. (3) Sources: (1) <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731</a> (2) <a href="http://english.people.com.cn/200508/03/eng20050803_2000...">english.people.com.cn/200...03_2000...</a> (3) <a href="http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/20/057.html">www.hartford-hwp.com/arch...0/057.html</a> (Workers World, 30 March 1995) <hr></blockquote>

by **The Omega Man** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:57 pm

Thanks for the assist, and the Unit 731 data which is extremely relevant in the MK universe. I just viewed a fantastic video available here: <a href="http://www.freepressinternational.com/Codename-%20Artichoke-Secret-CIA-Experiments-Humans.html">Codename Artichoke</a> and there indeed was a multi prong nexus that the U.S. was complicit in amalgamating. One was they took the research and scientists from Unit 731 and made the germ warfare bombs that they dropped on Korea during the war. The disgusted U.S. soldiers that were privvy to the atrocity openly rebuked the United States for its hypocrisy and genocidal murder. To which the U.S. responded by sending the CIA and army Intelligence to rendition (read: mentally and physically tortured) the accusers using Operation Artichoke techniques. When they were finished the newly programmed soldiers said that they lied and were forced by the Chinese and Koreans to say what they did. The new cover story sold to the public was that these embittered and dissafected soldiers were brainwainwashed by the Korean enemy. Which is the smoking gun nexus for both the burgeoning MK family of projects and Unit 731's/Fort Detrick bio warfare development. Operation Artichoke was Allen Dulles pet Paperclip/Sunrise project and was named because of the nature of the mind was like an artichoke to be peeled back in layers until the core is reached. The Paperclip Nazis that assisted in Artichoke's creation were concentration camp experimenteer Dr. Kurt Blome and chemist and psychochemical specialist Friedrich Hoffman. Blome was the admitted leader of Nazi biological warfare research, a program that included experimentation on prisoners in concentration camps. In 1947, he was rescued from prosecution at Nuremburg and then hired by the U.S. Army Chemical Corps to conduct a new round of biological weapons research. Frank Olsen was moved on to becoming a CIA agent looking to escape the horrors of his career in Bio-chemical warfare, only to experience worse when he was designated to assist in the brutal Operation Artichoke experiments overseas. As a compassionate familyman he was ill equipped to deal with the level of sadistic sickness exhibited by U.S. intelligence and military specialists breaking their subjects, oft times to death. He was vocal in his opposition and concluded that they were no different from their Nazi counterparts and wanted out of the CIA and begin studies in dentistry. He was covertly marked for termination by the agency, dosed with LSD by his compatriots, then hit in the head and tossed out of a hotel window 13 floors to his death. So ultimately the transplanted Nazis were organized and assimilated to continue their expertise in the transformation of the Fourth Reich here in the U.S.: Mind control and psychopharmacology Concentration camps Advanced Rocketry, Saucer & Atomic Bomb technology Genetics & Eugenics Biological & Chemical warfare agents Intelligence organization and techniques Communications & Telecom surveillance Psychological Operations and the manipulation of the masses Unit 731 contributed: Biological warfare technology Medical research of war trauma and wounds Covert uses of population experimentation and abuse The Nazi Third Reich was basically a fascism field test of sorts funded by the international bankers who have been anxiously preparing for their ultimate New World Order of All the Ages. We all have front row seats and you will literally have to fight to the death for freedom or become fertilizer with a soul. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=theomegaman@rigorousintuition>The Omega Man</A> at: 6/3/06 10:09 pm

by **dugoboy** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:11 am

thats a thought i've had since like the age of 8. when i learned about the nazis, its just something that percilated through i guess, that the nazi's were a test run... i recently learned that hitler was more than likely the bastard son of a rothschild. things that make you go hmm.... ___________________________________________ "BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT."

by **greencrow0** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:14 am

The longer the nightmare continues...the more I think that it's just a continuum of WWII...with inheritors of nazis just keeping on keeping on.

by **dugoboy** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:30 am

oh my god this some veeery interesting stuff... <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayer_Amschel_Rothschild_family">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May...ild_family</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>In the early 19th century Rothschild set up a Europe-wide network of messengers and carrier pigeon stations, gathering information that could affect his investments. He soon garnered a reputation for being first with the news. In June 1815, when the Battle of Waterloo was being fought, other speculators watched Rothschild's stocks in an attempt to guess who would win. Shortly after the battle ended, and long before anyone else knew who was the victor, he began selling stocks. Everyone assumed this meant Napoleon had won and Europe was lost. Panic selling ensued. When prices crashed, Rothschild bought everything in sight and made a packet.<hr></blockquote> ... <blockquote>Quote:<hr> However, in 1882 Edmond cut back on his purchases of art and began to buy land in Palestine. He became a leading proponent of the Zionist movement, financing the first site at Rishon LeZion. In his goal for the establishment of a Jewish homeland, he eventually chose to defend an alternative policy to that of the Zionists, promoting industrialization and respect for Arabic neighborhoods. In 1924, he established the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association (PICA), which acquired more than 125,000 acres (506 km²) of land and set up business ventures.<hr></blockquote> not trying to derail, but its ..uh.. enlightening. ___________________________________________ "BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT."Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A> at: 6/3/06 10:32 pm

by **Dreams End** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:37 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>i recently learned that hitler was more than likely the bastard son of a rothschild.<hr></blockquote> Oh my God!!! That would mean that the Holocaust was actually engineered by Jews!!! Wow!! You've really opened my eyes. What's all this MKUltra stuff doing on this thread?

by **The Omega Man** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:59 am

Adolph Hitler was 1/4 Jewish from the Rothschild bloodline. His grandmother was Maria Anna Schicklgruber a servant who served at Baron Solomon Rothschild's Vienna estate. Chancellor Engelbert Dollfuss had ordered the Austrian police to conduct a thorough investigation into the Hitler family. As a result of this investigation a document was prepared that proved that Maria Anna Schicklgruber was living in Vienna at the time she conceived and that she was employed as a servant in the home of Baron Salomon Mayer von Rothschild when she found she was pregnant. According to testimony of servants at the Rothschilds home there was a common practice of Solomon bedding down the help. In particular they reported that Maria was one of those temporary liasons during her employment there. As soon as the family discovered her pregnancy she was sent back to her home in Spital where she gave birth to a son named Alois. This would make Rothschild the real father of Alois Hitler, it would also make Adolf a quarter Jewish. According to history, Adolf Hitler discovered the existence of this document and the incriminating evidence it contained. So as a pretext to obtain it, he had events provocated in Austria to initiate the assassination of Dollfuss. According to evidence, he failed to obtain the document since Dollfuss had secreted it, confiding its whereabouts with his Minister of Justice Kurt Von Schuschnigg; so that in the event of his death the threatened independence of Austria would remain assured. When Dollfuss was assassinated in 1934, Schuschnigg became Austria's new chancellor. Schuschnigg eventually capitulated to Adolf Hitler at Berchtesgaden in February, 1938. He attempted to gain control of the situation by arranging for a plebiscite to be held on 13th March, 1938. However, this move was undermined when the German Army invaded Austira two days before the plebiscite was due to take place. Schuschnigg was imprisoned by the Nazi Government until he was liberated by American troops in 1945. Note: This may come as a shock but their were a number of German Jews who were active in the Nazi party, over 150,000 men, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, even generals and admirals - <a href="http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html">Hitler's Jewish Soldiers by Bryan Mark Rigg</a>. One might also note that a Zionist agenda (which is even hostile to Jewish interests) is not at all incompatible with the goals of the Nazis. Their were Zionists who actually sold their own Jewish (Shephardic) brethren out to the Nazis and their concentration camps for strategic gains. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=theomegaman@rigorousintuition>The Omega Man</A> at: 6/4/06 1:01 am

by **havanagilla** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:03 am

there's a little bit of a regression here, possibly under the stress of events recently. We have been through this line of research, and concluded that the holocaust was perpetrated by the windsors and rothchilds against the khazarians, with the financial aid of prescot bush. and then it was coopted by the Israelis, exaggerated, and spun against the innocent german people. (yawn emoticon)

by **The Omega Man** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:12 am

What are you even talking about Havanagilla?! That sounds like a bit of sophistry you are attempting to interject into the discourse. How does any of that aid my original line of inquiry into the Nazi derivation of the MK in MK-ULTRA?

by **havanagilla** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:32 am

reply was in re rothchild/hitler. --- frankly, i think such conjectures are not helping the mkultra issue, but making it appear as one of those attempts to attribute everyting to one person, be it rothchild or even hitler. -- Also, recently, am starting to wonder whether the revival of interest in paperclip might be a prelude to discoveries about the extent of MK ultra-like activities worldwide, or in the USA. While I am not going to DEFEND nazi doctors, I think that's an easy way out to lay all of it on perhaps some imported creeps, who are creeps, to the USA after WW2. Von Braun, for instance, didn't hide his agenda, and so the majority of people who were happy with his achievements, are not free of charges. Accountability seems to be unpopular these days. -- Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=havanagilla>havanagilla</A> at: 6/4/06 1:38 am

by **dugoboy** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:03 pm

just for clarification i wasn't trying to say it was only the rothschilds or htler, i was just noting it for those who didn't know the 1/4 jew aspect. it just rings of irony and how silly their games are. i also know very little of the secret history of the nazis, so its probably much bigger.. *returning to mk ultra discussion* ___________________________________________ "BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT."

by **Dreams End** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:05 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>i was just noting it for those who didn't know the 1/4 jew aspect<hr></blockquote> And don't think we don't appreciate it. It's important to break down the racial/ethnic background of someone when analyzing world events! For example, I think Clinton may be 1/8 Negro, but I'm still working on that.

by **dugoboy** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:53 pm

omg, lol now i'm an anti-semite apparently. come on dreams end you know what i meant. do i need to explain it? ___________________________________________ "BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT."Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A> at: 6/4/06 6:55 pm

by **Dreams End** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:37 pm

No need to explain. I'll let Icky Icke explain it: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>How strange then, that as I have documented in And The Truth Shall Set You Free and The Biggest Secret, along with endless other researchers and scholars, Adolf Hitler and the Nazis were created and funded by the Rothschild's. It was they who arranged for Hitler to come to power through the Illuminati secret societies in Germany like the Thule Society and the Vril Society which they created through their German networks; it was the Rothschild's who funded Hitler through the Bank of England and other British and American sources like the Rothschild's Kuhn, Loeb, bank which also funded the Russian Revolution. The very heart of Hitler's war machine was the chemical giant, I.G. Farben, which had an American arm that was controlled by the Rothschild's through their lackeys, the Warburgs. Paul Warburg, who manipulated into existence the privately-owned "central bank" of America, the Federal Reserve, in 1913, was on the board of American I.G. Indeed Hitler's I.G. Farben, which ran the slave labor camp at Auschwitz, was, in reality, a division of Standard Oil, officially owned by the Rockefellers, but in truth the Rockefeller empire was funded into existence by the Rothschild's. See And The Truth Shall Set You Free and The Biggest Secret for the detailed background of this and other aspects of this story. The Rothschild's also owned the German news agencies during both World Wars and thus controlled the flow of "information" to Germans and the outside world. Incidentally, when Allied troops entered Germany they found that the I.G. Farben factories, the very core of Hitler's war operation, had not been hit by the mass bombing and neither had Ford factories - another Illuminati supporter of Hitler. Other factories nearby had been demolished by bombing raids. So the force behind Adolf Hitler, on behalf of the Illuminati, was the House of Rothschild, this "Jewish" bloodline which claims to support and protect the Jewish faith and people. In fact they use and sickeningly abuse the Jewish people for their own horrific ends. The Rothschild's, like the Illuminati in general, treat the mass of the Jewish people with utter contempt. They are, like the rest of the global population, just cattle to be used to advance the agenda of global control and mastery by a network of interbreeding bloodlines, impregnated with a reptilian genetic code, and known to researchers as the Illuminati. Indeed, the Illuminati are so utterly obsessed with bloodline, because of this reptilian genetic code, that there was no way that someone like Hitler would come to power in those vital circumstances for the Illuminati, unless he was of the reptilian bloodline. If you look elsewhere on this website you will see how the same bloodline has held the positions of royal, aristocratic, financial, political, military, and media power in the world for literally thousands of years. This is the bloodline that has produced ALL 42 of the Presidents of the United States since and including George Washington in 1789. It is the bloodline of the runaway favorite to win the 2000 election, George W. Bush. The World War Two leaders, Roosevelt, Churchill, and Stalin, were of the bloodline and also Freemasons and Satanists. They were manipulated into office, and their country's war effort funded, by the Rothschild's and the other Illuminati bloodlines. <a href="http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/hitler_was_a_rothschild.htm">link</a> <hr></blockquote> Not one ounce of this is original, except for the reptilian part, of course. The idea of a secret Jewish conspiracy behind the Communists and the Nazis etc is an old one. <blockquote>Quote:<hr> In one sentence, you have the true attitude of the Rothschild's to Jewish people, and indeed, the human population in general. These people are NOT Jews, they are a non-human bloodline with a reptilian genetic code who hide behind the Jewish people and use them as a screen and a means to an end. According to Simon Schama's book, Two Rothschild's and the Land of Israel (Collins, London, 197<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> , the Rothschild's acquired 80% of the land of Israel.<hr></blockquote> Hey, who does Icke get his info from? Usually, he won't say. Happily, he does in one instant: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> In early 1998, during a speaking tour of South Africa, I had a personal meeting with P.W. Botha, the apartheid President of South Africa during the 1980s. The invitation came out of the blue when I was speaking a few miles from his home. We spoke for an hour and a half about the manipulation of South Africa and it was not long before names like Henry Kissinger, Lord Carrington, and the Rothschild's came up. <hr></blockquote> Just in case you were wondering who Icke hangs out with. Anyway, this isn't about Icke per se. As I said, this line of thought, minus the lizard stuff, is older than the John Birchers.

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That little Rothschild bastard

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