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Re: Hammond

Postby LilyPatToo » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:32 pm

Dr. Corydon Hammond has tried to distance himself from the field of SRA therapy, unfortunately. I've heard a rumor that he was threatened by Satanists and reviled by fellow academics for that speech, but I have no way of confirming it. In June 1992, Hammond said, <br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><br>"My best guess is that the purpose of it [the satanists] is that they want an army of Manchurian candidates -- tens of thousands of mental robots who will do prostitution, do child pornography, smuggle drugs, engage in international arms smuggling, do snuff films, all sorts of lucrative things and do their bidding. And eventually, the megalomaniacs at the top believe, [they will] create a satanic order that will rule the world." Harrie reported that Hammond said he has ceased practicing or lecturing in that area.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>That was all I could find about him online, other than the Greenbaum speech.<br><br>Since my whole system was shut away from me in an accessing in the Fall of 2004, I know only the alters who had already come forward by then. One "little" I know of because of her relationship to Lily--the latter once told me that this particular one was "her as a baby". The young ones only emerge now after a movie like "Narnia" or "Harry Potter" and then only briefly. They trust no one.<br><br>I met a bunch of alters without realizing it when I wrote a science fiction novel a dozen years ago, but I didn't understand that they were alternate personalities until I read author Annie McKenna's book "Paperclip Dolls" a year ago and recognized an older male British alter of hers--the version of him that I have nearly took over my book and he was an important character in a novel she'd written, too. She was able to get him onto her side and he was instrumental in her deprogramming, so I hope I can reach mine and persuade him to help me to do the same thing. I suspect that he may have been based upon an actual person in the government MC programs and I've been searching for him for over a year now. No luck so far. <br><br>Actually, my goal isn't quite the same as McKenna's--mine isn't to integrate so much as it's to get to the point where accessings are prevented. A couple of my inside people are individuals who don't strike me as wanting to lose their identities. I'd like to honor that, as long as we can all be safer than we are now.<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I liked the idea

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:45 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Alpha programming is accomplished through deliberately subdividing the victims personality which, in essence, causes a left brain-right brain division, allowing for a programmed union of L and R through neuron pathway stimulation.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>There is a specific Chi Kung technique for reunifying left and right hemispheres, and some visualisations I know as well.<br><br>The Chi Kung technique is v powerful. I have seen it basically diagnose epilepsy 5 years before the individual concerned began seizures, 6 years before the contributing lesion was located.<br><br>The visualisations involve combining two seperate bodies of flowing water.<br><br>For example standing over a bridge that has 2 streams flowing into it and one flowing out. The bridge has to be a creation of your own and represents consciousness, under your direction. the water flows under the bridge as 2 streams and leaves as one. If you want you can then have the single stream transform itself into a giant beautiful chinese dragon made of water that is there to serve your bidding.<br><br>However the integration of the streams is probably the first and most important thing.<br><br>Just had a word of warning re the Chi Kung.<br><br>The effects on me were nothing but I have been reminded by the person i mentioned above that the process seemed like a faint but was as uncomfortable and scary as a pre seizure aura, when you are not used to them.<br><br>This has made me wonder about the actual wisdom of using that technique without proper guidance. I am a believer in Chi, well not a believer, I don't "believe" in the sky either, but its there. Doesn't need my belief to justify it.<br><br>Chi would definitely lead to certain progaramming from what I understand of this stuff.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Optimal adrenal output and controlled aggression is evident. Subjects are devoid of fear<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>This is also a natural state. When playing footy this state is primo. I have jumped high enough that a teammate 186am tall was looking at the bottom of my boots. Run through packs of players 20 to 30 kg heavier and danced around the and through them like they were still and I was in a ballet.<br><br>The Delta state seems to mimic the state when playing footy at the peak of one's form. Possible sports psychology links there, tools for understanding how to develop and possibly deconstruct those "altered" states. And kick with skill and accuracy that even the pros on telly have trouble replicating.<br><br>It is a strange state where the conscious mind sits back and just watches, makes slight adjustments and takes care of processing info that is not immediately important (it might be in half a second, but not now).<br><br>Years ago I helped a bloke who was doing honours in sports science. He was trying to test for a training effect by using Chi Kung horseriding stance. We would hook ourselves up to machines that measured the force of a maximal contraction.<br><br>This was compared against a maximal contraction where we were relaxed and an electric current was supplied to the muscle to create measure the absolute maximum activation strength in the muscle. This was always higher than the maximal willed contraction. But interestingly if I had a beer or two before the tests the maximal willed contraction was higher than without beer, closer to the induced maximum. (It was this sort of anomoly that messed with his stats - no genuine scientifically proven effect was found, but anecdotally everyone noticed an improvement. Not statistically significant tho.)<br><br>I think the beer had some disinhibiting effect.<br><br>By the time the experiment was finished the difference between a willed and induced maximal contraction was in my case much smaller, and my willed maximum was actually above the original induced maximum, in terms of force generated.<br><br>The chi work had definitely improved not only my strength, but my ability to recruit and activate muscle fibres for contractions. And that was after only 6 weeks, not really long enough to acieve a training effect.<br><br>delta programming reminds me of this experiment. <p></p><i></i>
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sessions

Postby sw » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:46 am

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Re: sessions

Postby Project Willow » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:18 am

Hey sw, I hear you. I think I have overwhelmed my therapist. Sounds like yours is patient, which is good.<br><br>I don't like being multiple either, I can't believe how much trouble it can get me into. I have parts who do silly or worse, unwise things, and I absolutely hate being in "kid" mode in the middle of a serious adult situation. <br><br>I'm looking forward to always being able to control who's out, then being multiple wouldn't be so bad, and might come in handy at times. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: sessions

Postby LilyPatToo » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:20 pm

Reading your posts, I'm almost thinking that I should be thankful for the accessing almost 2 years ago that shut my alters away. Very little missing time since then, but also very little co-presence/communication. The few blocks of missing time that I've had were almost certainly accessings--frightening, but in some ways not the same kind of scary as having to worry about acting inappropriately and making an utter fool of myself or doing something illegal or simply wrong.<br><br>One survivor told me that she was pretty certain I was being monitored consistently and my system memory barriers reinforced--like you'd take a car in for tune-ups. We speculated on why they'd still be bothering on someone my age (59). Surely the information I carry isn't still all that relevant...? <br><br>One of the things we've not talked about is the use of programmed multiples as recording/filing devices, long before people had notebook computers or PDAs. I've had dreams ever since I was a little kid of being ordered to organize and maintain hundreds of manila file folders. They lie on the ground in orderly rows--like an acre of them. As the years passed, they began to fill the air, too, floating in rows that were part of invisible blocks. The punishment for misfiling or otherwise being unable to retrieve a document was severe and I obsessively checked and neatened them up in dreams.<br><br>Until I read Sue Ford's book, I'd never heard of another person with such a thing. Ditto for her long involvement with the Mafia. I have no illusions that I was personally trained by Henry Kissinger, as she and Kathleen Sullivan apparently were, but someone with very high standards installed my mental filing system. The selves who do that part of my programming have astounding memories that I'd sometimes give my eyeteeth to have access to--my (Pat's) memory sucks.<br><br>The one time that I know for certain that particular part of my system was used was at a high-level Mob meeting that my owner/boss held at my apartment (I managed a section of one of his apt. complexes and had a pretty model apartment in which to live). The tri-state (Ohio, PA and WVA) dons and their lawyers were all there and I was scared almost out of my wits, before, during and after that meeting. One of them made it very plain that he knew me (now I know it was one of my Betas) quite intimately, but I had no memory of ever seeing him before. I had so much missing time that even right afterward it was like seeing isolated snapshots of scenes, instead of having a continuous memory of it. <br><br>But that information is 30 years out of date now....? Why bother to keep me forgetful of it?<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=lilypattoo>LilyPatToo</A> at: 7/18/06 11:22 am<br></i>
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Re: sessions

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:45 pm

Wow Lils, That filing cabiniet thing reminded me of a story I once read by "cyberpunk" author William gibson.<br><br>It was called Johhy Nemonic.<br><br>I think it was made into a film but i'm not that sure about that. <p></p><i></i>
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motifs

Postby Avalon » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:44 am

A policeman recently helped me capture an injured animal, using one of the small quilts they keep in the patrol cars in case they have to deal with a traumatized child. I'd like to make a replacement quilt and donate it to the department in thanks for his help.<br><br>I know some of you with a background of childhood abuse have talked about visual motifs that keep coming up, like butterflies, Oz, and Alice and Wonderland. While it might not necessarily ever be used by a child with that sort of organized abuse history, if there are any motifs that you feel were "red flags" or triggers I'd like to take that into consideration.<br><br>Are fabrics with prints of puppies, kittens, teddies, unicorns, dolphins and rainbows okay under the circumstances? What would make the younger ones feel most comfortable?<br><br> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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movie

Postby Avalon » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:46 am

Johnny Mnemonic<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113481/">www.imdb.com/title/tt0113481/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: movie

Postby Project Willow » Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:03 am

Avalon, that is very kind. I have no idea what cultural references they might be using on kids today, but it warmed my heart to read your message. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: sessions

Postby havanagilla » Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:53 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>One survivor told me that she was pretty certain I was being monitored consistently and my system memory barriers reinforced--like you'd take a car in for tune-ups. We speculated on why they'd still be bothering on someone my age (59). Surely the information I carry isn't still all that relevant...?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>Didnt you say you were still doing sex jobs in the 80's and 90's ? that did strike me as odd, but then it wouldn't be so long ago, and the information therefore would stlil be relevant.<br>I thought you wrote somewhere you were in your 40's but then I must've misunderstood something.<br><br>--<br>When you say you were accessed 2 years ago (is that correct ? two ?) and "made to forget" all your multiples, how did that happen ? and do you think it is possible "to wipe out memory ?" cause you seem to remember a whole lot. <br><br>A friend of mine, just emailed me that Patricia (pat?) is also a common "alter" for CIA progammed people (little pun - PATRI-CIA), wel maybe for those who are not americans, don't know, but just trying to help, if you are looking for alters who might have been 'wiped out', that might be a clue.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: sessions

Postby biaothanatoi » Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:07 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Life is happy now compared to 14 years ago when I started therapy. I remember asking my therapist....how many MONTHS does it take to recover. Maybe it is a blessing not to know how long it takes and how hard it is.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br>I think you are right - it's probably best not to know at the outset.<br><br>I have semi-regular email contact with a few survivors around the place who are not in a good space - scared, overwhelmed, bad relationships, etc. I don't promise anything beyond a sympathetic ear - and I encourage them to see a professional.<br><br>But it's a delicate balance between providing support/info so they can make their own choices ... vs. providing too much info eg "your symptoms may not abate for years even with therapy". <p></p><i></i>
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MKULTRA Article

Postby JD » Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:38 am

I don't know much about this at all. I found this article which seems like an interesting introduction.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://argentina.indymedia.org/news/2005/08/320875.php">argentina.indymedia.org/n...320875.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Shut Down Sequence

Postby Project Willow » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:21 am

What you're asking about Hava, and Lily describes about having internal barriers reinforced is, I believe, pretty standard practice at this point. <br><br>If they have access to a survivor and she goes into therapy, might as well play around with methods of preventing hidden system access, or of course impeding therapy.<br><br>However, I've also seen pre-existing security programs produce the same effects if they are triggered by too much "remembering".<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: MKULTRA Article

Postby havanagilla » Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:03 am

its good that the issue is spread around the world, especially places like Argentina (certainly Chile, Colombia etc.) which I believe were subjected to such mind control programs, both by Nazis immigrating after WW2 and by the Americans. Would be interesting to get feedback from that region, mostly from victims. <p></p><i></i>
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