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Re: Christening the knife? Ouch. Self-mutilation.

Postby Dreams End » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:40 am

actually, I was interested in the occult aspect of things. Especially the new Wicker Man. <br><br>I loved Carrie, by the way. They remade it and for some sad reason I ended up actually seeing the new one. It was terrible, of course. <br><br>Wasn't Carrie abused by her mom, though? Wasn't that supposed to be the source of her power?<br><br>There are very few horror movies that make you feel so strongly for the protagonist. I first saw it as a teenager and it's so easy to relate to how she's being picked on and tormented and ultimately set up by her "friends." And Spacek is a very good actress which is why it works.<br><br>I have mixed feelings about Sybil. She was so OBVIOUSLY multiple that it has really made it hard for folks to come to the conclusion about themselves. One of the first things I always end up saying in explanation is, "It's not like Sybil." That is, it's not so freaking obvious as alters switch in and out (unless it's a really young one...but they don't come out except around people they trust.) <br><br>And once it got into the movies, then all these women are assumed to have DID because they saw the movie........not because they have DID. <br><br>I watched it again recently, and though it is over the top, it is at least very sympathetic. I don't remember "Three Faces of Eve" which I haven't seen in years.<br><br>The next movie on DID, if one happens, is likely to be based on First Person Plural. The guy who wrote it is very establishment....former head of the ASia Society and hobnobbing with presidents. I found the book a little strange as it seemed clear to me there was so much he WASN'T dealing with. I think the guy is very genuinely DID. But it's just obvious that there's more to his story than even he seems aware of...He goes so far out of his way to continually look away from his dad's upper class relatives as having anything to do with the abuse he suffered...(mentioned only very briefly and very vaguely) and lays all the blame on his mom's lower class relatives. (He actually never identifies any perps but he goes out of his way to say who WASN'T involved. And while the little bit we get about the abuse is horrific, it sort of suggests that trauma doesn't have to be that intensive or longlasting to lead to DID. Maybe others have different opinions. I noticed, for example, that he never even mentions his first wife and kid, who are around the whole time he's uncovering all this. I just found that what he DIDN'T say was so much more profound than what he did say. And if that's a result of real gaps in his self-awareness and not just the difficulty of writing such a book, then he's in for some difficult times ahead. <br><br>Still, Debbie watched him interviewed on 60 minutes and found it very healing. She'd never seen anyone like her actually interviewed and it moved her.<br><br>I don't know if there's a movie deal in the works, but I'd be surprised if there weren't. And given his high level establishment credentials, I couldn't help but wonder if there's more there which will confuse the issue and cover up certain elements than will enlighten. <br><br>Debbie is toying with the idea of writing a play, based on her own system. All the parts would be played by DIFFERENT actors. All of them would remain on stage but would come into the scene at various times...This mirrors her internal state and concentrates on the psychology of the system and not the "Gee whiz, wasn't it amazing how Sally Field seemed so different for each character." To make such a play as an ensemble piece makes far more sense. Don't know if she'll actually write it, though.<br><br>Does anyone remember what this thread was about originally? <br><br>No worries..interesting stuff anyway. But if I'll sort of push it back a bit. It started as a discussion about a stage magician/mentalist who made it appear, at least, that a stranger could be quickly hypnotized and put into a terrifying situation. It looked, in short, exactly like I'd imagine an "alien abduction" would look if those are, indeed, staged at times by intel types.<br><br>We talked about whether it was "real" in the sense that the guy really was unsuspecting and really was hypnotized. I continued to be unable to see a middle ground...either he's an actor or willing accomplice who's quite aware that he's not really shooting zombies or he isn't. Pan felt there was a middle ground but couldn't get specific so as not to get into tradecraft of mentalists. Then I gratuitously posted pictures of both Kreskin and Doug Henning....It's MAGIC!!!<br><br>This also led to some really interesting discussion about how MC works in certain folks, and there's been some talk about how being continually accessed even after gaining awareness could be disempowering...but PW says, though it complicates things, it doesn't mean healing and escape are not possible.<br><br>John Mack got tossed in because some of us susptect that alien abductions might be staged as mentioned. <br><br>Then, surprisingly, Hugh brought up some movies. Kind of out of character for him, but I went with it. I was curious about recent occult themes...especially Wicker Man and there was disagreement about what Carrie meant thematically. This is maybe relevant as some survivors feel they have some paranormal powers and that these were both enhanced and controlled by MC related abuse as children. Not what the movie says, exactly..but that is kinda what the result is.<br><br>I mentioned that I liked the film because I guess it played into my own revenge fantasies when I was a kid. But taken to it's extreme...it's a lot more Columbine than Rocky and is disturbing therefore.<br><br>I continue to hope that there will be a few chinks in the armor and that one day, maybe one day soon, those who've been victimized by MC...officially "crazy" in our society will be like those other really paranoid people who complained that the government...OUR government, actually tested radiation on them without their permission and against their will...often while they were children! Clearly, those people were nuts. Until someone proved they were right.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: John Mack

Postby LilyPatToo » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:58 pm

Personally, I lean toward seeing Dr. Mack as a disinformationist, albeit an engaging one. But the MC survivor who found me had a very definite opinion of him, based upon two things, basically--first, his links to organizations that were CIA-funded and to people who were involved in MC, and second (and much more interesting--and damning--to me), the strange way he failed to use his psychiatric training when it came to abductees. She had worked in psychology and I'm going to quote her words, since I don't have the vocabulary:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>He is postulating a thesis based on a belief and, or, assumptions made regarding the ontological nature of an experience (ie., alien abductions) by using that same belief as empirical evidence for the proof of the existence of the reality described by the belief. <br><br>Mack does not apply, at least publically, [standard] forensic diagnostic criteria to his "study of abductees/experiencers" because to do so, would in fact lead one to conclusions other than the one that he is openly postulating as the etiological basis for the pathology of the <br>experience itself. <br><br>This is a strikingly outrageous [stance] from a psychiatric perspective; from a psychiatrist trained in a field with intimate knowledge of psycho-dynamics of the human mind and a background with extensive application of forensic diagnostic criteria used in clinical practice. <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>In other words, he knows better.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>[And referring to Mack's statement, in a NOVA interview, that a person believing themselves to have a "dual identity"--both alien and human--is an alien hybrid]<br><br>This isn't incompetence or naivete; it's an agenda of deliberate deception at best, and implicit evidence of complicity in criminal activity, in the "worst case" scenario. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>While my own knowledge of psychology and psychiatry is limited, I too found his instant uncritical acceptance of his patients' claims of being "alien hybrids" very strange and very unlike my own psychiatrist's way of dealing with my similar stories. And this was back during a time when I desperately wanted to believe that aliens explained all my missing time and abductions that included military personnel. It STILL struck me as strange that he wasn't inclined to look for any other explanations for a person thinking they had an "alien self" inside of them.<br><br>Now that I've learned about the sly and sometimes convoluted ways that MC ops are hidden behind faked alien abductions, I can't help but suspect Mack as being one of the foremost disinformationists in a field built upon disinformation. But I have no proof of that, just a profound unease with his very odd diagnostic criteria when dealing with abductees. Certainly, the fact that his professed concern with social justice is very close to my own mindset would argue against his being "dirty"--nearly every other person connected intimately with mind control leans far in the other direction, politically speaking.<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=lilypattoo>LilyPatToo</A> at: 7/26/06 12:08 pm<br></i>
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Re: Project Willow's question

Postby LilyPatToo » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:07 pm

PW asked,<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>LilyPat, I just want to clarify an issue that comes up for me in your writing. You seem to be saying that survivors are either still under some control, whether they've gone public or not, or they are "cut loose" from a program, as if there is no other scenario. Am I misinterpreting you?<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>No, I was just talking about the survivors I know and just within the context of what we were discussing--alter system breakdown and the consequent access to memories held by those alters. In my (admittedly small) sample, there is one survivor who believes she is deprogrammed and freed from accessings, but I think she is honestly mistaken. I do believe that deprogramming is possible, though. I just don't know anyone myself who has definitely freed themselves. <br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Dreams End's mention of psy abilities

Postby LilyPatToo » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:27 pm

DE said, <br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>This is maybe relevant as some survivors feel they have some paranormal powers and that these were both enhanced and controlled by MC related abuse as children. Not what the movie says, exactly..but that is kinda what the result is.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I wanted to also mention something else I've pondered about my own very psychic childhood, teen years and young adulthood--the abilities may have emerged due to those being very dangerous times for me. IOW, their manifestation may have been partly survival-driven.<br><br>This may have been known by the MC program directors, too, and deliberately exploited, or it might have happened, been observed and incorporated while the program was on-going. But the fact that my last "time-slip" occured in the presence of someone I strongly suspect was a handler and at his instigation makes me suspect that it was that particular ability that was exploited in my own case.<br><br>Children are small and relatively powerless, so it kind of makes sense that they might be more likely than adults to express normally suppressed abilities that would give them a survival edge. And if they're being abused, then that might be even more impetus to do it in order to survive. Telepathy, clairvoyance and precognition would be very handy, in particular, and those are the gifts I had.<br><br>I try to avoid going into the "woo-woo" stuff in relation to MC, due to its used by the Controllers to discredit/invalidate survivors, but the fact remains that I experienced it for nearly 3 decades and so did all the survivors I happen to know, to a greater or lesser degree.<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>
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Babylon 5 - Weaponization of Psychics and the Human Mind

Postby JD » Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:42 am

Remember the SF series Babylon 5?<br><br>Very interesting concept in it that the discussion of MC reminds me of.<br><br>The Shadows (bad guys) took people and used mind control techniques to turn them into weapons. These weaponized people were the heart of their incredibly powerful warships.<br><br>The people they chose for this task were psychics.<br><br>In the end, the good guys defeated the shadows in part because one psychic from their side was turned into the most powerful weapon in the galaxy.<br><br>Also on the series there was a thread in which one of the key "good guy" characters is subject to MC, in which he becomes a puppet of the bad guys and causes lots of trouble.<br><br>When I saw the series I had no concepts that people have claimed that MC and the weaponizing of people is real. Wow. Very interesting.<br><br>If you haven't seen the series I'd highly recommend it; I'm sure there is lots of interesting material to be mined from it. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: DE's helpful synopsis.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:49 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Then, surprisingly, Hugh brought up some movies. Kind of out of character for him, but I went with it.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I appreciate your sense of humor, DE.<br><br>I realize this seems obsessional and even not polite to harp on at a cocktail party but the reason I did was because it seems increasingly obvious to me that movies are a more intense version of the lower-grade programming and mind control which TV performs on the huge cult called America.<br><br>The Moving image is where MK-ULTRA meets the Merkin mind.<br><br>Those images linger and displace self-generated images.<br>We tend to become more like what we see. Especially kids.<br>Those mirror neurons really work.<br><br>And this is being hidden with disinfo and limited hang-outs.<br><br>I swear that the power of 'entertainment' images is much more significant than some of you seem to realize.<br>So powerful that it is guarded like the plans for a nuke.<br><br>(Which brings me back to DE's original post.)<br>And that is why Darren Brown's video is there to make young somewhat media-savvy viewers say "Naww. That's staged." And go right back to watching many many hours of TV per day and playing video games. Must...stay...on...meds.<br><br>I've heard very convincing 'interviews' on NPR where all the keywords are double entendre and punched up in a seemingly spontaneous dialogue.<br>This level of manufactured theater is at a level few would want to believe was possible.<br><br>And it is so easy to both write and produce. Listen on weekends and see what I mean.<br><br>There are lots of horror movies out and about to come out.<br>And women seem to be the 'bad guys.'<br>Something about that genre is desirable to power.<br>Probably the good fights evil + adrenalin + discrediting women.<br><br>The adrenalin aids the programming, no doubt. The images I remember from seeing movies as a teenager are horrificly violent scenes.<br><br>'Pirates of the Caribbean' has horror plus the above elements.<br>'Monster House' - Stephen Spielberg presents, uh-oh...<br>'Snakes on a Plane' - primate fear meets 9/1l re-triggeing<br>'The Descent' -poster is women's bodies forming a skull<br>'The Wicker Man' - little demonic girl in white<br>The tagline for 'Wicker Man' is <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"Some sacrifices must be made"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>'Night at the Museum' - for Christmas<br>Notice that now there is always a Christmas horror flick like<br>'The Nightmare Before Christmas' and 'The Corpse Bride'?<br><br>Heckuva time to ride the surreal Santa sleigh into the subconscious, I guess. But then that narrative is very religious despite seeming secular and folksy to adults.<br><br>Kid's brains are different from adults and I don't think adults nearly suspect what these movies are doing to them.<br><br>on edit: Changed "helful" to "helpful" and "all" to "some" to protect my throat. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 7/27/06 4:16 am<br></i>
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Re: DE's helful synopsis.

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:01 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I swear that the power of 'entertainment' images is much more significant than you all seem to realize.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>hugh, why must you insist on baring your throat with comments like this?<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_smack.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: Reply to JD

Postby LilyPatToo » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:15 pm

I loved Bab5 and saw every one, JD. But I'd forgotten about that story arc completely. When I think of all the movies and TV shows that have used mind control as a plot device, I'm astounded that the public isn't more aware of its existence. Instead, even among intelligent people who have lots of questions for Authority, its mention gets me one of those "Oh--you're a conspiracy fanatic, are you?" looks. <br><br>That tells me that the "snicker factor" campaign is fabulously effective and that if I keep mentioning it, I'll end up medicated for some schizoaffective disorder that I don't have.....<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>
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Re: the snicker factor

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:02 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>the "snicker factor" campaign is fabulously effective<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Great expression. Yeah, it does work. Taking a real narrative and then exaggerating it to push it over the credibility cliff. That's a form of reverse psychology.<br><br>I see the remake of 'The Stepford Wives' as functioning the same way to obscure the use of divide-and-conquer gender agit prop by taking the very real subjugation of all things female and turning it into a sci-fi movie about men making female robots.<br><br>I see the same snicker factor at play in Darren Brown's staged video about hypnotising a video game player and then whisking him away to a room to wake him up inside the game he was playing without him realizing it.<br><br>Media-savvy youth are to see Brown's hoax video and have the ideas in it be discredited with a snicker.<br><br>I was talking to a co-worker about the prevalence of camouflage-colored clothes and he said that a store he was just in had lots and lots of pink men's clothes and what was up with that?<br>Are men suddenly craving pink clothes? Is there really a big market for this? Was this just a preppy store with pink and lime green to go with your penny loafers? <br><br>Tobacco companies use reverse psychology to catch young smokers. "Oh you mustn't smoke unless you're an adult."<br>And it works pretty well. When Big Tobacco settlements of the 1990s mandated they create an anti-smoking campaign they cleverly knew exactly how to make not just ineffective ads but ads that accomplished the opposite of the overt message. Nothing like wagging a finger and saying "junior mustn't" to indicate to junior what real adults do, right?<br><br>So imagine a clothing campaign for young men where you give them too much pink as way to reinforce the messaging to choose camouflage instead. Everybody knows that pink is for girls or gays or pinko-commies or those French losers and their Pink Panther or the lefty activist group Code Pink, right?.<br><br>"The snicker factor," that's a good one. <p></p><i></i>
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On the whole pink thing.

Postby Sarutama » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:12 pm

Pink appears to be a very popular color for males ages 16 - 25 or so these days. I'm a manager at a call center, and we hire a lot of highschool/college aged people and they ALL wear pink, male and female.<br><br>Could it just be that pink is really popular right now? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Project Willow's question

Postby havanagilla » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:42 pm

i don't have a group of survivors to draw conclusions from. In fact, I know a few, but they are not aware, one is but she is constantly on the verge of a mental breakdown. Certainly i don't know a free survivor, or even someone in my situation. <br>Can't say much on "statistics". <br><br>I had my case wide open in canada, and in fact it was treated as credible, but then what happens, and i am sure it is typical of any high profile/high stakes legal case, it boils down to whether your party is selling you. In my case, the main advocate stated simply "let's see how much you are worth to them".<br><br>In any legal case this is what will basically happen, and there are some lawsuits (see in TRauma, Its treatment and the Law) i suppose the "successful ones" settled out of court with a consentual gag order and very low compensation compared to the damages inflicted. There are numerous statutory immunities to the state in these cases, and they can always invoke them at any stage of any such hypothetical hearing.<br><br>Hypothetically, it would be better to sue in a foreign locus, but then there are other hurdles, such as the USA is not party to most international covenants etc., and there too, 'deals' are striked at the expense of the individual victim.<br><br>that would also be the case with other, less problematic/fantastic cases, that I can think of. <br>----------<br><br>As opposed to DE, I don't think the credibility of the testimonies is the main hurdle, although it appears that way on first examination. The problem is the huge asymetry in power, between potential parties. Success can be obtained with support by either some internal factions seeking revenge (power struggles inside the huge number of orgs and governments involved), or support of mental health practitioner with good profile and stamina and a large coalition of orgs and support. <br><br>--<br><br>In terms of "selling the client", the opposing party (all those semi criminal intel nuclear orgs) are in the best position to buy the lawyers, or whoever, because they have endless budgets and "rabbits up their sleeves", more than a usual government agency. <br><br>--<br>First, you have to find a credible lawyer for this kind of lawsuit, and I am not sure you will find many, and those who are credible and familiar with the issue, might not be up to it, in terms of the complexity and money it requires. But check that law book, there is a section on MC, and it cites several lawsuits and how the courts threw them out, based on immunity and exemption clauses. This does not mean that there were no settlements in those cases, but you will never know. <br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Project Willow's question

Postby havanagilla » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:53 pm

this reminds me of antiaristo who nearly went berserk seeing how lawyers and corporate officers cheat regularly. he described a common scam, i think it was in relation to employers' rights, after a take over or merger. needless to say that the temptation to sell mc survivors is much higher than selling workers of a tv station to save the trouble of paying them severance payments. the stakes and amounts are higher. <p></p><i></i>
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Color Conspiracy

Postby JD » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:57 pm

Sorry in advance DE - this post is REALLY changing the color of this post from Darren Brown.........<br><br>Absolutely there is a "color conspiracy" - the case is slam dunk.<br><br>I remember reading years ago an article (I think in the Atlantic Monthly) about an organization called The Color Marketing Group which was a multi-disciplinary group which selected the color palettes to be used by in the upcoming years. Can't find the original article but this comes up:<br><br>$$$$$$$$$$$$$$<br><br>Wikipedia: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_Marketing_Group">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col...ting_Group</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The Color Marketing Group (CMG) is a trade organization catering to the consumer design and advertising business. They have a very strong influence on color trends in clothing and design through their "color reports" published several times a year. The reports suggest what colors will be in style for up to 18 months in the future. It is because of these reports that fashion and consumer design coloring follows noticeable trends; the organization and its members put some effort into making the transitions seem organic and coincidental.<br><br>Color reports are available only to members, and generally kept secret.<br><br>$$$$$$$$$$<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/1001995/">www.slate.com/id/1001995/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Color Cartel<br>Bruce Gottlieb<br>Posted Thursday, Nov. 12, 1998, at 3:45 PM ET <br>That gray is "the new black" is already a cliché. A recent New York Times Op-Ed lamented the fact; fashion magazines featured the color on fall covers; and stores are full of gray clothes. How did all the designers know that gray would be the color of the season? They consulted with an international trade organization based in Alexandria, Va., called the Color Marketing Group. CMG predicts what the fashionable colors of a particular season will be. And while nothing requires designers to act on CMG's suggestions, the clothes showing in stores indicate that they do.<br><br>CMG, founded in 1962, is a non-profit group of 1,500 people from different industries--fashion, cosmetics, automobiles, greeting cards, etc.--that convenes twice a year to come up with both long-term and short-term predictions. The long-term prediction is a list of 16 colors, compiled two years in advance. The short-term prediction is a palette of colors that are currently popular--there are several shades of gray on this year's. Next year, CMG says, the big color will be blue.<br><br>$$$$$$$$$$$$$<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://smlxtralarge.com/archives/000010.php">smlxtralarge.com/archives/000010.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The colour of profit<br>Posted by Adriana Cronin-Lukas, 17 July 2004 <br>Link · TrackBack (2) <br>Trends <br>There are people who think official color reassignments are a conspiracy theory. Teresa Nielsen Hayden of Making Light blog has the short answer is that they are a conspiracy, but they aren’t theoretical, and submits as evidence the assigned colors for 2004, 2003 and 2002. <br><br>Who does this to us? An outfit, founded in 1962, called the Color Marketing Group. These are the people who wished avocado green and harvest gold kitchen appliances on America, and put the 1980s into those mauve-pink shades that looked so peculiarly horrible on so many of us.<br>The CMG is a trade organization that houses 1,500 members from varied industries. The set the long-term colour trends (a set of sixteen colors that will be profitably marketable two years hence) as well as short-term predictions (a palette of colours that are supposed to be currently 'in') at twice-yearly meetings in Alexandria, VA. <br><br>It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. Nobody’s obliged to follow CMG’s lead; but a manufacturer who ignores them is likely to find that all his competitors’ products are in fashionably compatible colors, while his own clash.<br>How do CMG members choose new colors? As someone explained in Slate back in 1998,<br><br>The official line is that they look at economic trends (pastels in bad times, saturated colors in good times) and also examine social trends. What this boils down to is six hundred people sitting around in small groups, trying to figure out the next big thing. Gray, for example, was chosen in part because of the craze for technology and space-age stuff as the millennium approaches: “People associate gray with futuristic things like silvery metallics and anodized aluminum,” a CMG spokeswoman said. And why blue? “Water is a big social issue, what with the current emphasis on designer water and water conservation.”<br>It all fits together for Teresa:<br><br>I knew what was up with the big khaki push. Remember that one? Ads everywhere saying “Hemingway wore khaki”? We’d all been wearing black for several years. We had black levis, good black skirts, black leather or denim jackets, little black dresses—a great installed user base of basic black clothing, plus the colored stuff we wore with it. I hadn’t heard anyone sighing for the return of khaki, and if I had, I’d have pointed them to one of the WASP mail-order catalogues. What’s the big deal with khaki? It gets dirty too easily, and for a lot of people it’s an unbecoming color. But there’s only so much new black clothing you can sell a happy consumer who already has a closet full of black-and-coordinates; so the clothing industry pushed khaki remorselessly.<br>That would explain the fashion magazines seasonal frenzy, when 'yellow', 'pink' or 'green' are the 'new black'. Why is this relevant to engagement marketing? Such trend-setting engages customers by fashionista's fiat, that is, not at all. It may be true that colour fashion changes every season and every season we are being told this colour scheme is the 'thing'. However, I wonder how many people actually bother to change their wardrobes, interiors and other items according to the latest CMG 'soothing' blurb.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Color Conspiracy

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:28 pm

Fabulous information. Thanks, JD. Re: GREEN.<br><br>I've noted the military recruiting colors of <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>camouflage pattern and that army olive drab are on many girls and women</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> on the covers of videos.<br><br>Camouflage is just everywhere these days.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Spring Green is, too. In the year of Al Gore's global warming movie warning of hell to come called 'An Inconvenient Truth.'.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>The new CW network that targets young audiences has a Spring Green billboard campaign all over my city pushing several different shows and all using the line "Free to Be..."<br><br>The shows are-<br>'Veronica Mars' - girl power. Mars is pretty obvious<br>'Everybody Hates Chris' - poor blacks are funny, right?<br>'Friday Night Smackdown' - standard violent messaging. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Color Conspiracy

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:42 pm

I saw alotta Army guys running around wearing pink when they were off duty. We used to bust their balls pretty bad whenever they came in the shop cause they looked rediculous.<br><br>Hugh, I see alot of camo wear as well, but what I'm seeing more than anything isn't jungle camo, but forest, as in hunting camo. When you see them coming, there's a Browning logo tattoo in someone's near future..<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.midwestgunworks.com/merchant2/graphics/00000001/browning_logo_home.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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