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Re: race

Postby thumperton » Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:40 am

We are the world <br>We are the children <br>We are the ones who make a brighter day <br>So let's start giving <br>There's a choice we're making <br>We're saving our own lives <br>It's true we'll make a better day <br>Just you and me <br><br>Send them your heart <br>So they'll know that someone cares <br>And their lives will be stronger and free <br>As God has shown us by turning stone to bread <br>So we all must lend a helping hand <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: veritas and jenz

Postby israelirealities » Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:45 am

Veritas you are more than welcome to <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>not</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->[/b]</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--> give it a rest and explore what you had in mind, its only that the type of messaging, like following a cue and I am led in the dark, is triggering, but I am sure you didn't ahve the intention.<br><br>Jenz- bloodlines. Well, I think this is a residue from not so long ago in history that monarchies and bloodlines officially ruled our lives, and so you'd have to be adept in finding all the cousins and bastards and hidden connections in order to chart the world around you. In fact in ENgland and some European countries (BELGIUM...-)) monarchies exist and gentry and what not, so it is almost as relevant today to some degree, although the power shifted to other hierarchies as well. <br>In the third world, if you take Saudi Arabia for one, bloodlines are still serious political legitimate way to analyse policies, and we see the Bin LAden issue as a reminder, cause he is certainly royalty etc.<br>In the Jewish world, as we did not have monarchy or official gentry for some time (two millenia, to be exact) this is less of an issue, cause someone can be "nobody" and make it to millions. but I can see how the notion of "blood lines" extended itself to analyse the Jewish tribe as well, in Europe. <br>This is their way of charting the world of politics and money and scams. You can see this also in the analysis of the Bush monarchy :-). In fact we too have a little ridiculous version of a "blood line" in Sharon and sons...this was not common so far, to see the kids of a politician working with their father as little "princes" did in the past. Its weird and disgusting and mocks democracy. <br>The Jewish "bloodlines" mentioned often are ROthchild, and perhaps others ? I don't know for sure. Rothchild is the closest we have to real gentry, since they are European and quite an old family that remained in tact. I am much more concerned with millionnaires like Lauder and recently we heard here of another one, can't remember the name (maybe Hecht ?), who made money from stock exchange and meddles here and gives a LOT of money to right wing religious fanatics because he does not have anything better to do in his retirement pasttime. And there are many more "new" millionnaires, Saban (from LA) who just bought our natinal telephone company and many anonymous ones buying off our politicians, generals and what not. They are not "gentry" at all. Soros, also, is not a "good family" I think. AS I said, I understand where the terminology and the notions are coming from, and I can see how the Europeans might even examine the entire Jewish community in their city or country as one "monarchy/bloodline" etc etc. note also the interest in Da Vinci Code with the idea of a Jesus blood line actually kept in tact since 2000 years ago. So, its wider habit in some cultures.<br>OUr religion has a lot of this "pedigree" stuff, in relation to the cast of the priests, who in older times were in charge of functions in the temple. (Cohen). I can't say I like it, but these are remnants of old times, and we see them resurrected now, in our fairly young democracies who were invented as a means to stop the monarchic rule (the French revolution, the communist revolution, etc.). Maybe it failed and we are back to these "bloodline" stuff. I hope not, cause my family sucks big time.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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bloodlines

Postby jenz » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:25 am

er - if you have some recent ancestors who were poshish, it is fairly easy to trace at least part of your line back say 1000 years. I can do this. prior to this, its really the stuff of legends and hoaxes a lot of the time, claims and cross claims. but having bits of family connection with this or that big cheese does not make one essentially any different to the next man or woman, who may, in fact, have as close or nearly as close a relation to these so called blood lines, but just not know it. it neither makes a person per se power hungry, 'reptilian' fascist or criminal. usually the rich keep that way by, as it were, preferring the man who will hold the pot they piss in, to their own flesh and blood. so, in analysing abuse of power, I don't think it is helpful. To give a concrete example, a Belgian banker was given an honour, (which I suppose now makes him an aristo) after the Dutroux affair. He is one of those named as implicated in crimes I can't bear to detail. you are naming a few others who, doubtless, in the fullness of time, would be in line for 'honour', if they were in a country that used that system of rewards. too bad that these decorations are given for all sorts of reasons. Further back, the associations of language, and the distribution of genetic characteristics would seem to demonstrate that people have migrated and mixed all over the globe. easiest to say, we are all one. some of us are just nasty. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: bloodlines

Postby israelirealities » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:39 am

Oh yes, surely I didn't try to even understant, let alone, justify the use of bloodlines to trace ?lizard people :-) I can't stretch my logic that far. But the whole notion of the Messiah being from the line of David (in our religion and I think also CHristianity ? not sure) drives the interest, and the notion that "blood" is important for spirituality as well. <br>Yes,we are all bastards and hybrids by now. "One big dysfunctional family". <br>All those folk legends about a poor young man who rises to fame and only then discovers he is a blood of a king..etc. The archetype is deeply imbedded in human civilization. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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triggering

Postby veritas » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:29 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>that the type of messaging, like following a cue and I am led in the dark, is triggering, but I am sure you didn't ahve the intention.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>No. Not my intention at all.<br><br>I can't tell the stories. They are long. Complex. <br><br>Finders and Franklin are in data dump, I see. Jeff writes of them too.<br><br>rightwing + intelligence agencies + organized crime + occult = child slavery/porn + blackmail + control <br><br>Be safe. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: triggering

Postby israelirealities » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:41 pm

Thanks, yes I already googled the Franklin thing, and will read it later in more details (when I am able to withstand more horror and injustice). I think this is the recipe in general, what you typed here. Except I beg to differ on the :right wing thing, as regards Israel. Also "right wing" has very different meanings in different political systems. YOu don't suggest this does not exist in communist countries. OR do you ?<br>ISrael was socialist mainly, till 1977, but I still think it had those "things", within the labor government/bureaucracy. I think we are now talking about<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> US right wing</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> (or Nationalist/Capitalists). In ISrael I would say it started with Labor, and then when the ruling party changed to Likkud, it just went a step further. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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