CIA knew of Eichmann whereabouts

[jingofever]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060606/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/cia_records_nazis">news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060...ords_nazis</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>And that is just one page out of 27,000 just released. <p></p><i></i>

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Limited hang-out. And portraying CIA in a bad light by opening their dirty laundery is also part of the media war of leaks between White House neocons, Pentagon, and CIA over the lost Iraq War and torture. It's complicated and time-sensitive in the dance for public opinion and elite opinion.<br><br>In early February of 2005 papers were released showing <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>the CIA had taken in as assetts five of Eichmann's assistants</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. That's a hell of a lot worse than "knew where he was." They were some of huge Nazi brain trust of spooks and scientists that transferred allegience to the OSS/CIA when Hitler was losing, America's darkest and deepest held secret.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,146562,00.html">www.foxnews.com/story/0,2...62,00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>(AP: CIA to Release Information on Nazi Hires)<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Some documents obtained by the working group, for example, show that the CIA recruited and hired five assistants to Adolph Eichmann, the man known as the architect of the plan for exterminating the Jews during World War II.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>So the CIA-controlled Mockingbird media laid down cover just quickly squeaking that story out by hijacking the keyword 'Eichmann' a few days ahead of time as a distraction.<br><br>They did this by excoriating anti-Fascist anti-COINTELPRO author and college professor Ward Churchill for an essay he'd been asked to write on 9/12/01 about the attacks.<br><br>Churchill had written that not all the victims in the WTC were 'innocent' because <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>some were CIA and their high finance allies who were carrying out plans that devastated third world countries "like little Eichmanns."<br></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>The right-wing echo chamber went nuts on this for weeks to first cover for the proof of CIA actually being Nazis all while re-triggering both 9/11 trauma in the masses and demonizing 'liberal' college teachers to prevent the start of a peace movement and reinforce stereotypes in the recruiting poor South, a tactic started after WWI when propaganda from the war was continued as a permanent feature of governance. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 6/6/06 5:47 pm<br></i>

[professorpan]

Sorry, Hugh, but again, I don't buy your theory.<br><br>Do you ever do actual searches to check the validity of your "keyword hijacking" idea? Let us know the next time you find an example of successful keyword hijacking -- I really want to see it, and I'm sure others would, too.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The right-wing echo chamber went nuts on this for weeks to first cover for the proof of CIA actually being Nazis all while re-triggering both 9/11 trauma in the masses and demonizing 'liberal' college teachers to prevent the start of a peace movement and reinforce stereotypes in the recruiting poor South, a tactic started after WWI when propaganda from the war was continued as a permanent feature of governance.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Do you ever consider that sometimes things just <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>happen?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Without massive PTB orchestration? Like maybe an outspoken professor says something that sparks the wingnuts' fury? <br><br>It's far easier to simply say "Mockingbird controlled media did x" than to actually point to some evidence to back up your assertions.<br><br>It's one thing for someone to deny media manipulation entirely, which would be easy to refute. But you refuse to acknowledge the ramifications of your ginormous control theory -- that tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of people involved with the mass media are either in collusion with the media overlords, or they are all ignorant of their controllers aims and methods. <br><br>I've asked several times, but you won't answer -- do you actually know anyone in the film industry? Do you have any conception of how films are written, sold, produced, and marketed? <p></p><i></i>

[havanagilla]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/723786.html">www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/723786.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>this is hitting frotpage in HAaretz, Israel today.<br><br>So far, the usual silence (PTSD ?) when this issue is brought up by the press in Israel. <br><br>Any explanations you can propose for this total silence. <p></p><i></i>

[professorpan]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Any explanations you can propose for this total silence.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Hava,<br><br>Total silence in the Israeli press or the U.S. press? <p></p><i></i>

[havanagilla]

Israeli PP. <br><br>Is there also a total silence over there ? (I don't follow the MsM over there).<br><br>for instance, I am reading closely this morning's update in haaretz blog on this item, by Rosner. His account is a verbatim translation of Yahoo news, as if he is telling a story about Papua, and not something related to israel.<br>Specifically, since the matter is related to the Eichman trial, and surely the Globke situation must have become known at some point to Eichman's Israeli interrogators, Rosner doesn't even pose a question. Namely, "what did Eichman tell about Globke, and what did Mossad/Israel do about it ?". Niente. As if there is no linkage between that Eichman and the other Eichman who was tried here.<br><br>Bizarrrrrreeee.... <p></p><i></i>

[professorpan]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Bizarrrrrreeee....<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Indeed. I don't know squat about the Israeli media, but it would seem to be a story of interest to many Israelis. <p></p><i></i>

[havanagilla]

that's what one would think, right ? but it appears there is a very well orchestrated attempt to spin this <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>news at any cost.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> This is a reminder to the vicious conflicts of the Kastner trial, and he was assassinated by what seems now to be a hit squad by intel services. This kind of marked the boundaries of speech here. I think it also marked the level of independence Israel actually holds, from the variety of nazis and emperors.<br>We just don't have leadership, only a form of Judenrat who excell at "bargaining" on how many jews to give to the ovens (quietly, namely by numbing them and lying to them so they don't rock the trains), in order to save select others plus money (for the brokers of the deal, as awful as it seems. The nazis always prostituted those judenrat leaders, even the ones who were not corrupt basically).<br>-<br>In fact, its weirder here, cause the press is way ahead of the people. Haaretz published, and Yediot is constantly bringing up the Nazi issue (re Rafi Eitan, for instance) of the past. But it appears the public is drugged or dissociated or plain suicidal.<br>Otherwise, one cannot explain why those leaders who sell their flock, are not only allowed to stay but some were reverred and elevated. <br><br>The Kastner family, for instance, is still very well placed in positions of power, in terms of finance, media positions, and surely Intel positions. Perhaps he was in fact a CIA asset ever since the Nuerenberg trials where he assisted the US prosecution. And if this is the case, it makes sense that he will have the same immunity as CIA ops have, namely, way above the ISraeli decision makers. I think Dulles not only imported certain structures of the Gestapo/SS but also kept the methods with regards to "how to operate the jews" with the same web of informants/collaborators in tact.<br><br>Crazy thoughts this morning. and another one, i am starting to question the validity of Ben Gurion's original sin, namely, the sweeping agreements with Adenauer.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[Gouda]

Just noting, for what it is worth, that the limited hang-out CIA/Nazi stuff comes out at the same time as the FBI's limited <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>hand-out</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> of Cheney's security review records. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/06/06/nazi.crimes/index.html">CNN</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->: <br>"CIA papers: U.S. failed to pursue Nazi<br>West Germany gave location of Eichmann, historian says"<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/FBI_releases_small_part_of_Vice_0606.html">Raw Story</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br>"FBI releases small part of Vice President's FBI records, withholds 89 percent of files"<br><br>Too lazy today to think this is anything more than unintended paraconnectivity (which may be a lot) - and it reminds me of the CNN "X" that was televisually superimposed over Cheney during live speech coverage in november last year. I am really not suggesting anything more than an intriguing coincidence. Cheney stuff is just, you know, more ripe for such conjecture. <p></p><i></i>

[PeterofLoneTree]

From the WaPo <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://tinyurl.com/qkjvu:">tinyurl.com/qkjvu:</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"CIA Ties With Ex-Nazis Shown"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"The CIA organized Cold War spy networks that included former Nazis and failed to act on a 1958 report that fugitive Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann was living in Argentina, newly released CIA records show."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Ex</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->-Nazis, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>former</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Nazis.<br>Good thing they lost the war, so they could "stop" being Nazis. <p></p><i></i>

[Quentin Quire]

As I remarked to a friend a while ago - there are always references to 'ex-Nazis'. <br><br>However, murderers and rapists are never described as 'ex-murderers' or 'ex-rapists' ... <p></p><i></i>

[elpuma]

Hmmmmm..... I wonder why that is? <p></p><i></i>

[havanagilla]

Back in Israel. <br>Following the publication, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>general silence</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> except a morning TV interview with rafi eitan.<br>Eitan says that Ben gurion ordered the mossad to catch A nazi not nazis, with preference to senior as possible. They started with Borman, failed and then "settled" for Eichman. <br>He said they had info about eichman as of 1957. Implies that they knew the USA has relations with the nazis. <br>---<br>Another response in the internet, that Simon Weisental approached Mossad with the info on Eichman and was dismissed. (that was around 1957) and encouraged to butt out of Mossad activities.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Chiaroscuro]

They are only EX if they renounce Nazism and all it stands for. what a remarkable and disgusting case of wheselwording in an attempt to make it sound not so horrible that the CIA actually hired these people. <p></p><i></i>

[Mentalgongfu]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>As I remarked to a friend a while ago - there are always references to 'ex-Nazis'. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>You're right. <br><br>I've never heard of an ex-murderer. Ex-football players and ex-presidents, ex-drug users, even ex-executioners. <br><br>But never an ex-murderer or ex-rapist. Only "convicted murder" or "accused rapist," etc. <br><br>Some groups just aren't allowed to live down the stigma. <br><br>I guess Nazis don't qualify in any of those groups. <br><br>And I'm sure you'll not hear anyone described as an ex-terrorist, at least not for a decade or so, until "ex-terrorists" are conveniently lured into the service of the CIA as new enemies rise in the Global War on Terra. <br><br>But seriously, I'm glad you pointed this out.<br><br>Manipulation of language is a cornerstone of mind control, behavior modification, or whatever you wish to call it. <br><br>Language creates meaning. (and in many ways, creates reality). <br><br>That's the whole idea behind the newspeak in Orwell's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>'84.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br>(BTW, <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>'84</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, always with the apostraphe, is the title for for the hip, modern, theatrical-musical verison of the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>1984 </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->I just thought up)<br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>And if someone out there is now imagining, as I am, what that musical might look and sound like, then I've hopefully demonstrated in some small way the immutable power of words to affect what and how we think. <p></p><i></i>