Aryan Nations Graffiti in Baghdad

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Aryan Nations Graffiti in Baghdad

Postby Gouda » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:58 am

The NYT has <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/07/washington/07recruit.html?ei=5065&en=7cb9f2ec28785f8a&ex=1152936000&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print">this story</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> on nazi/white supremacist groups "Infiltrating the Military", as they put it, mainly due to "recruiting shortfalls." <br><br>Fascist militia groups in the military? I'm shocked, just shocked. This could mean the US military becoming more vulnerable to racially insensitive misdeeds and aggression. Well, I hope that if there are going to be bad apples in this long war, we'll know who they are.<br><br>Aryan nations graffiti in Baghdad. "That's a problem," they say. Yes, that's another image problem. <br><br>Oh, and talk about bringing the troops back home - how about training for that coming domestic race war...<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Hate Groups Are Infiltrating the Military, Group Asserts</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>By JOHN KIFNER<br><br>A decade after the Pentagon declared a zero-tolerance policy for racist hate groups, recruiting shortfalls caused by the war in Iraq have allowed "large numbers of neo-Nazis and skinhead extremists" to infiltrate the military, according to a watchdog organization.<br><br>The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks racist and right-wing militia groups, estimated that the numbers could run into the thousands, citing interviews with Defense Department investigators and reports and postings on racist Web sites and magazines.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"We've got Aryan Nations graffiti in Baghdad," </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->the group quoted a Defense Department investigator as saying in a report to be posted today on its Web site, www.splcenter.org. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"That's a problem."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>A Defense Department spokeswoman said officials there could not comment on the report because they had not yet seen it.<br><br>The center called on Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to appoint a task force to study the problem, declare a new zero tolerance policy and strictly enforce it.<br><br>The report said that neo-Nazi groups like the National Alliance, whose founder, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>William Pierce</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, wrote "The Turner Diaries," the novel that was the inspiration and blueprint for Timothy J. McVeigh's bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>sought to enroll followers in the Army to get training for a race war.<br></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>The groups are being abetted, the report said, by pressure on recruiters, particularly for the Army, to meet quotas that are more difficult to reach because of the growing unpopularity of the war in Iraq.<br><br>The report quotes Scott Barfield, a Defense Department investigator, saying, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"Recruiters are knowingly allowing neo-Nazis and white supremacists to join the armed forces, and commanders don't remove them from the military even after we positively identify them as extremists or gang members."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Mr. Barfield said Army recruiters struggled last year to meet goals. "They don't want to make a big deal again about neo-Nazis in the military," he said, "because then parents who are already worried about their kids signing up and dying in Iraq are going to be even more reluctant about their kids enlisting if they feel they'll be exposed to gangs and white supremacists."<br><br>The 1996 crackdown on extremists came after revelations that Mr. McVeigh had espoused far-right ideas when he was in the Army and recruited two fellow soldiers to aid his bomb plot. Those revelations were followed by a furor that developed when three white paratroopers were convicted of the random slaying of a black couple in order to win tattoos and 19 others were discharged for participating in neo-Nazi activities.<br><br>The defense secretary at the time, William Perry, said the rules were meant to leave no room for racist and extremist activities within the military. But the report said Mr. Barfield, who is based at Fort Lewis, Wash., had said that he had provided evidence on 320 extremists there in the past year, but that only two had been discharged. He also said there was an online network of neo-Nazis.<br><br>"They're communicating with each other about weapons, about recruiting, about keeping their identities secret, about organizing within the military," he said. "Several of these individuals have since been deployed to combat missions in Iraq."<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The report cited accounts by neo-Nazis of their infiltration of the military, including a discussion on the white supremacist Web site Stormfront. "There are others among you in the forces," one participant wrote. "You are never alone."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>An article in the National Alliance magazine Resistance urged skinheads to join the Army and insist on being assigned to light infantry units.<br><br>The Southern Poverty Law Center identified the author as Steven Barry, who it said was a former Special Forces officer who was the alliance's "military unit coordinator."<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"Light infantry is your branch of choice because the coming race war and the ethnic cleansing to follow will be very much an infantryman's war," he wrote. "It will be house-to-house, neighborhood-by-neighborhood until your town or city is cleared and the alien races are driven into the countryside where they can be hunted down and 'cleansed.' "</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>He concluded: "As a professional soldier, my goal is to fill the ranks of the United States Army with skinheads. As street brawlers, you will be useless in the coming race war. As trained infantrymen, you will join the ranks of the Aryan warrior brotherhood."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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White supremacists in the military

Postby Sarutama » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:21 pm

Taken from the website of the Southern Poverty Law Center<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.splcenter.org/intel/news/item.jsp?site_area=1&aid=197">www.splcenter.org/intel/news/item.jsp?site_area=1&aid=197</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>July 7, 2006 -- Under pressure to meet wartime manpower goals, the U.S. military has relaxed standards designed to weed out racist extremists. Large numbers of potentially violent neo-Nazis, skinheads and other white supremacists are now learning the art of warfare in the armed forces.<br><br>Department of Defense investigators estimate thousands of soldiers in the Army alone are involved in extremist or gang activity. "We've got Aryan Nations graffiti in Baghdad," said one investigator. "That's a problem."<br><br>Southern Poverty Law Center President Richard Cohen urged Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to adopt a zero-tolerance policy regarding racist extremism among members of the U.S. military.<br><br>"Because hate group membership and extremist activity are antithetical to the values and mission of our armed forces, we urge you to adopt a zero-tolerance policy when it comes to white supremacy in the military and to take all necessary steps to ensure that the policy is rigorously enforced," Cohen wrote in a letter to Rumsfeld.<br><br>Military extremists present an elevated threat both to their fellow soldiers and the general public. Today's white supremacists become tomorrow's domestic terrorists.<br><br>"Neo-Nazi groups and other extremists are joining the military in large numbers so they can get the best training in the world on weapons, combat tactics and explosives," said Mark Potok, director of the SPLC's Intelligence Project.<br><br>"We should consider this a major security threat, because these people are motivated by an ideology that calls for race war and revolution. Any one of them could turn out to be the next Timothy McVeigh."<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Aryan Nations Graffiti in Baghdad

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:37 pm

Thanks Gouda. "Infiltrate" is a rather misleading reading of the situation, when recruiters are "knowingly" admitting them. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Aryan Nations Graffiti in Baghdad

Postby Gouda » Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:21 pm

Yes. Since these nazis are plotting on internet discussion boards, they must be "infiltrating". Finding a welcome home, rather. A familiar pattern. Like neocons infiltrating the US foreign policy establishment. Like al qaeda infiltrating flight schools in Florida. Like spooks infiltrating key positions at the New York Times. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Aryan Nations Graffiti in Baghdad

Postby professorpan » Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:39 pm

The Turner Diaries is, hands-down, the most revolting book I've ever read. It was hard to stomach -- the images of all non-whites murdered and strung up on telephone poles comes to the forefront of my mind whenever I read about American Nazis. <br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://stormbirdpress.com/turner_195x285.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=professorpan>professorpan</A> at: 7/7/06 11:41 am<br></i>
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Re: Aryan Nations Graffiti in Baghdad

Postby xsic bastardx » Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:50 pm

<br> I really don't think this is anything new persay, I mean the Military is probably rampant with Aryan Nation sympathizers. It could be "coming" out now due to the circumstances with the War in Iraq. <br><br> You have a never ending "War on Terror" overseas in the heart of the "Mongrels" homeland. You don't think these guys don't want Crazy White Males tramping all over Baghdad working thier mojo. It only increases the probability of what you see on CSPAN at 3am in the morning. Iraq carved up in three states. Kurdish, Shitite and Sunni.<br><br> I know where all the money has gone. Have you seen any of the pics of the Bases over there? I haven't....but I have heard stories about how equipped they are and how fortified. We aren't leaving.<br><br> I am in total agreement that this is serious stuff. However, in this day in age anything that is "New News" when it comes to the Military Industrial complex or anything in this US, it's not new, were just hearing about it finally.<br><br> Can anyone say Operation Northwoods. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Aryan Nations Graffiti in Baghdad

Postby nomo » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:05 pm

This should give anyone pause that's hoping a military coup will save us from our current nightmare. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Aryan Nations Graffiti in Baghdad

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:45 pm

This is a present day Project Paperclip, Nazis as 'needed' assets in an economic war.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Aryan Nations Graffiti in Baghdad

Postby rain » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:15 pm

Yep. Sounds like they're going to need patsies for something.<br>Just off-hand, does anyone have any idea of the time-line between when these, er, reports, are seeded in the media, and the event.<br>Wondering if I've got time to duck out for a coffee.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Onward, Aryan Soldiers

Postby professorpan » Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:48 pm

I don't think the military is too happy about Aryan infiltration.<br><br>The Army has always been well-integrated, particularly in the last couple of decades. They don't want soldiers who refuse to be team players -- in fact, it's very likely that overt racist behavior would be punished. <br><br>I also have to wonder how the hardcore White Power guys handle being bunked next to Hispanics and Blacks. Or having their lives depend upon their fellow soldiers of other races. <br><br>It is a disturbing development, to be sure. But I'm not convinced the armed forces are happy to have violent racists in their ranks. It would be interesting to hear from soldiers about this.<br><br>Racist behavior against Arabs, however, is a different subject, and an inevitable consequence of occupation -- hence, likely to be tolerated or encouraged by the leadership. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Onward, Aryan Soldiers

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:21 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Racist behavior against Arabs, however, is a different subject, and an inevitable consequence of occupation<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>My time in close proximity to Ft Benning was pretty instructive in regards to seeing this on a regular basis. The trainees were mostly aggressively prejudiced before they even graduated having been indoctrinated through the media.<br><br>Those that returned from deployment were usually much worse having soaked up a healthy amount of culture they were incapable of understanding, let alone desiring to understand in the slightest. The Officers were usually a little better about it(some, not all; there were notable individuals that were pretty extreme about it), but as a whole, I think the general consensus of the Infantry would be to gladly nuke Iraq and Afghanistan from orbit.<br><br>These white racists may be entering the service; I don't recall seeing any overt white power guys, but they're in for a rude awakening as far as comrades in arms go, due to the fact that enlistment quotas were so low for the military they consistently lower the bar on a regular basis to keep the ranks semi-full. One thing the Army did that really got my attention was lift a long-standing ban on tattooing visible outside of dress uniforms, meaning hands and necks were permitted, opening a flood gate of individuals of...questionable merit, that found themselves suddenly able to enlist and get out of their respective ghettos.<br><br>The short of is that in the last year, I saw some <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>REAL</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> pieces of shit enlisting, guys I would want on my side as little as I'd want against me. The Army's meat-shield teir is made up of so many minorities that the white power guys will easily find themselves the true minority.<br><br>The Military is scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for recruits. There's a reverse draft in place, and I've seen many, <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>MANY</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> National Guard and Reservists get one 12-16 month deployments after another, many times recieving orders that they won't be returning until 'Mission Accomplished'. These guys had much longer deployments than regular Army, and were often sent into the worst areas. Men and women with families, businesses, some losing both while the service lifts the age ceiling to keep them in for longer.<br><br>The Army's in pretty bad shape right now. These white supremist groups are only a very small portion of the problem, and while it's true that they're recieving excellent training for state-side gorilla warfare, so are their counter-parts.<br><br>Leaving the rest of us Civillians standing right in the crossfire, of course. <p>____________________<br>Oderint, dum metuant</p><i></i>
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Onward, Aryan Soldiers

Postby rain » Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:15 am

<br>'A Defector In Place'<br>The creator of an underground magazine aimed at the Special Forces is out of the Army but building up his role on the extremist right.<br><br>Eleven days after the April 19, 1995, Oklahoma City bombing, Sergeant First Class Steven M. Barry, a.k.a. "J.F.A. Davidson," appeared on CBS' "60 Minutes." <br>Questioned by reporter Steve Kroft, the Special Forces soldier — his face obscured and voice altered electronically to hide his identity — identified himself as the editor of an underground newsletter called The Resister. Introducing Barry's "political warfare journal," Kroft told his listeners that it used "the same inflammatory rhetoric espoused by the radical militia movement and portrays the U.S. government as the enemy." <br><br>"The command says you don't exist," Kroft told Barry. <br><br>"That's excellent," replied Barry. "Great. Exactly." <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=322">www.splcenter.org/intel/i...sp?aid=322</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>"Steven Barry, a retired Special Forces sergeant, concurs: "I did talk to<br>some Combat Applications Group guys, and they did confirm that, yes,<br>portions of B Squadron were there pulling triggers."<br><br>Most chilling of all, Sgt. Barry reports: "Their operators had penetrated<br>the building on several occasions, and on one occasion, late April 17 or<br>early on the 18th, they saw Koresh within six feet of them. They radioed<br>back to the Tactical Operations Center for permission to grab him, and<br>within minutes the word came back from the Justice Department, 'No, we<br>already have a plan in place,' that being what happened on April 19."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.davekopel.com/2a/Newsletter/SAP2000/2000-February-7.htm">www.davekopel.com/2a/News...uary-7.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Onward, Aryan Soldiers

Postby Gouda » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:55 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I don't think the military is too happy about Aryan infiltration.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> Pan, I think it may be more accurate to say that the military is none too happy that Ayran "infiltration" is <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>being reported</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. Reminds me of what Stan Goff wrote regarding the haditha massacre and <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>rogue apples</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->: "I’ll tell you what the rogue aspect of this was. Someone got the pictures." Stan has a lot to say about the onmipresent racism inherent in and necessary to the armed forces - the special forces are his expertise, as he once was one...special forces, you know, the more cultured guys who play chess. <br><br>Remember the SAS officer who recently refused to fight alongside american soldiers and left the army over the "illegal" tactics of US troops and the policies of coalition forces? <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060318&articleId=2126">The Daily Telegraph reported:</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>He said he had witnessed "dozens of illegal acts" by US troops, claiming they viewed all Iraqis as "untermenschen" - the Nazi term for races regarded as sub-human.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> How d'ya like them apples? Whether they post on stormfront or not, thems Nazis, if only in character and not name. <br><br>I think it can be argued convincingly that the mission and existence of the US military is Aryan in character, regardless of its multicolored makeup. It is the arm of white supremacy enforcing the subjugation of darker races around the world to the dominance of white capital markets (inter alia). Now you don't have to have overt white supremacists dominating the ranks in order to carry out a mission for real chickenhawk fascists, but I think it is in the military's best interest to instill a "supremacist" mode of thinking in all who join. That's the catch. The army may be "integrated" and that is what is so sad about this nice-sounding conceptual whitewash: you've got everyone convinced that this liberal, modern army is out ordering the world, when in fact, you've got a multicolored SS engaged in constructing its own global Auschwitz. <br><br>If the (overt) aryan nations boys are not getting along at the mess hall with other americans, would they not be quietly assigned to a special task force or other unit, perhaps sent on special missions? One mission may be scapegoat and patsy to cover for the hideous racist crimes of the normal rank and file. More bad apples. Not our regular boys. <br><br>The job must get done, one way or another. <br><br>Furthermore, I think you have to take into consideration the high probability that one may enter the army as a regular type of guy, you know, with lots of friends who are black or jew or latino. Maybe even arab. But after training and a tour or two, they may come out of there something quite more extreme. In fact, I know quite a few "humanitarian" workers deployed to foreign missions who are either racist to begin with, or emerge as hardened racists, bigoted beyond belief toward the local people they claim to serve. it is really amazing how that works. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gouda@rigorousintuition>Gouda</A> at: 7/10/06 12:04 pm<br></i>
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Huh?

Postby Sarutama » Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:31 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The Army has always been well-integrated,<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The American Army?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Huh?

Postby Gouda » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:22 am

In another sense, it is true the (american) armed forces are well-integrated. This is the same establishment that houses(ed) both General "My God is bigger than your god" Boykin and Col. Michael "MindWar for Set" Aquino and their numerous protégés (mostly in the special forces, I understand, where they also seem to study German). <br><br>I think the Nazis already paperclipped and long seasoned in the forces will be able to find perfect niches for these Aryan "infiltrators" and they will get on quite well in the desert heat with their fellow xtian fundie co-destroyers. <br><br>Iraq seems more and more to me to be training for stability and control operations stateside should it be required down Route 66 of our worst nightmares. Should these guys be set loose in Texas or Ohio after a few tours of duty, their role could be similar to that of the intel-sponsored-and-trained paramilitary thugs operating in the Balkans as racial/ethnic/religious provocateurs...for example. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gouda@rigorousintuition>Gouda</A> at: 7/11/06 3:26 am<br></i>
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