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The REAL Nazi's

Postby slimmouse » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:20 pm

Lest we forget who and where the REAL Nazi's are ;<br><br> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>I cannot view the current debate about the Bush Administration’s latest attempt to remove all checks on its power without thinking about how my German and Austrian grandparents must have watched with disbelief as Europe sank into the madness of fascism. I think about how unprecedented those changes were, and how difficult it must have been to believe that things could really become as bad as they did. My grandparents had once been as comfortably integrated into their communities as I am in mine. In the end their assimilation mattered not at all; they fled, leaving behind family, friends, property and possessions. Unlike millions of others, they were fortunate to escape with their lives.<br><br>At the time, perhaps, it was difficult to recognize the exact moment when the die was cast – when the malignancy gained sufficient momentum to make what followed inevitable. But in hindsight, the Enabling Act, passed by the German legislature in 1933, might well have been the point of no return.<br><br>Hitler was elected Chancellor (a point conveniently forgotten by many) in January 1933 on a platform of anti-communist propaganda. In February, the Reichstag, the equivalent of our Capitol, was destroyed by arsonists, who may or may not have been affiliated with the Nazis. Appropriately cowed by these and other intimidations, the German parliament passed the Enabling Act that March.<br><br>The Enabling Act, officially known as the “Law to Remedy the Distress of the People and Realm,” was short and simple. Its operative provisions were as follows:<br><br> Article 1<br><br> In addition to the procedure prescribed by the constitution, laws of the Reich may also be enacted by the government of the Reich….<br><br> Article 2<br><br> Laws enacted by the government of the Reich may deviate from the constitution as long as they do not affect the institutions of the Reichstag and the Reichsrat. The rights of the President remain undisturbed.<br><br> Article 3<br><br> Laws enacted by the Reich government shall be issued by the Chancellor and announced in the Reich Gazette….<br><br>That, seasoned with only a soupçon of legalistic detail, was it. What it meant was that the executive was empowered by the legislature to decide what the law was. He was empowered to ignore the constitution. Neither the courts nor the legislature would have means to check executive power.<br><br>When the world saw the logical conclusion of that social experiment, it promised, “never again.”<br><br>Never again.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br> Notwithstanding the fact that we should pay attention to DE's investigations into that which he considers <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>premium content</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> for the left of today, I feel it is important, lest we accidentally become too pre-occupied by such relative trivia, to keep our eyes on the ball.<br><br> On edit - Link ; <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/The_New_Enabling_Act_0927.htm">www.rawstory.com/news/2006/The_New_Enabling_Act_0927.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br> Your thoughts DE ? <br><br> I ask this question, incidentally for the umpteenth time. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 10/2/06 6:26 pm<br></i>
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And speaking of the Nazi/ Mafia....

Postby slimmouse » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:44 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Castel Gandolfo, Italy (Zenit.org).- Benedict XVI received Henry Kissinger, the former U.S. secretary of state, in a private audience at Castel Gandolfo, reported the Vatican.<br><br>The Vatican press office did not issue any public statement on what was discussed during Thursday's meeting.<br><br>Kissinger, who was Secretary of State from 1973 to 1977, also met with Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi and President Giorgio Napolitano during his weeklong visit to Rome.<br><br>The German-born American diplomat served as national security advisor and later secretary of state during the presidency of Richard Nixon, a position he continued to hold during the presidency of Gerald Ford.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>In 1973, Kissinger, along with Le Duc Tho of Vietnam, won the Nobel Peace Prize for their efforts to negotiate the Paris Peace Accords to end the Vietnam War</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> On edit - Link - <br> <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=95698">www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=95698</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br> Bids to be a fly on the wall at that meeting ? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 10/2/06 6:47 pm<br></i>
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Re: And speaking of the Nazi/ Mafia....

Postby Dreams End » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:04 pm

I apologize if somehow my writing has made some people think that condemnation of certain segments of Bush's opposition equates to support of the Bush administration. In fact, that's the kind of thinking I'm most trying to oppose...<br><br>In fact, I gave a test for my hypothesis and this article is perfect for the test subject. Assuming that anti-Bush people regain control, be they moderate dems or rightwing repubs who have turned against him, we will judge them by what they do with these laws which have already been passed.<br><br>If I see a massive roll back of such laws, then I'll know that either my thesis was pretty far off or else the plans got changed due to my amazing investigative skills (that's a joke.)<br><br>On the other hand, if non-Bush people regain control and we see very little change in such laws or much change in foreign policy, then perhaps others might consider the possibility that when the elites play "good cop, bad cop" a change in figureheads does not mean much.<br><br>Or maybe there will be a genuine grassroots movement for true democracy (including economic democracy) and all of them will be swept aside. Will you be on the side of Nazi-lite, slimmouse, or will you join us at the barricades?<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Your Hypothesis ?

Postby slimmouse » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:40 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>In fact, I gave a test for my hypothesis and this article is perfect for the test subject. Assuming that anti-Bush people regain control, be they moderate dems or rightwing repubs who have turned against him, we will judge them by what they do with these laws which have already been passed.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Looking at your recent posts DE, and with respect to you, I dont get the impression that my post has anything whatsoever to do with your hypotheses <br><br> If that were the case, you would spend much more of your time focusing upon where the real Nazis are, rather than warning people of where they might next rear their ugly heads, whilst the people of Lebanon and Palestine, and a pile of other Brownskins get bombed and burned and oppressed, by one faction of those Nazis who are doing the bombing burning and oppressing.<br><br> Whilst I can, and genuinely do appreciate what youre saying to some degree, its the consistency of looking at Nazi minutia ( relatively speaking ) which concerns me, whilst ignoring the crimes of the Reich which are in your face.<br><br> What I found particularly interesting, was that in one of your responses to a post by Alice, you claimed that your particular area of research was one which was little observed - A breathtakingly audacious statement in the light of the fact that Alice had , in quite literally the previous post, offered a list of articles longer than the arms of the octopus catalogueing such research.<br><br> All of these links, to my mind at least had one thing in common - A calculated ignorance of the wanton murder of Brownskins - A calculated ignorance of the crimes against humanity by the middle Eastern colonialists, coupled with a clearcut warning of the dangers of racist Nazism, posed by those who point out such crimes !!!!<br><br> All the time such complaints were being espoused as irrational "racism", as opposed to who is actually doing the murdering, and who the REAL racists and nazis are.<br><br> You gotta love that dont you think ?<br><br> <br><br> I hope that The very theme of this thread, which essentially is pointing out how such "thoughtcrime" is now part of US law, hasnt escaped your eagle eyed perception with regard to other relative minutia. <br><br> As for this thread. Im looking at Hitler, Bush, Ratzinger, Kissinger - None of whom would surely look out of place with a pointy white hat on, wouldnt you agree ?<br><br> Kudos to you for preparing the spadework for protection of the innocents come the revolution.I prefer to put the horse before the cart.<br><br> <br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Your Hypothesis ?

Postby Dreams End » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:46 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>What I found particularly interesting, was that in one of your responses to a post by Alice, you claimed that your particular area of research was one which was little observed - A breathtakingly audacious statement in the light of the fact that Alice had , in quite literally the previous post, offered a list of articles longer than the arms of the octopus catalogueing such research.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>What I find interesting is how you ignored my response. She was talking about accusations of "left anti-semitism" which is not new or novel to me.<br><br>I was talking about nazi and fascist inroads into the left, via the "red brown alliance" which I see very little about and, of course, eagle eyed one, you cannot help but notice none of her articles were about that either.<br><br>Secondly, the power structure is not some simple thing. The US was murdering "brownskins" not only before Bush came into office but before Israel came into existence. I would point you to the brutal repression of the Phillipine Insurrection as just one example...nevermind the history of ACTUAL slavery and genocide upon which this country was built. <br><br>Or will you be blaming this also on the neocons? Or Israel?<br><br>There's not much new in the Bush administration as far as foreign policy goes. In fact, compared to Vietnam, this has been just a minor excursion. Vietnam, which brought 3 MILLION dead. How did that benefit Israel, do you imagine?<br><br>Hey, wasn't that Johnson who really got that war cranking? Wasn't he a DEMOCRAT? Didn't he take over when JFK was killed by the CIA and their Cuban fascist goons? <br><br>Could it be that the idea that the US was some model of democracy and enlightened foreign policy until the neocons hijacked the place might be just a TAD oversimplistic? Might it be that this very sort of foreign policy has continued rather uninterrupted no matter who our titular rulers were? Could it be that the real power structure lies outside of the White House? when the White House is totally compliant...no worries. When not...there are ways to keep the Prez in line. And if that fails, they assassinate him.<br><br>Learn some history, but it is good to see you making some actual arguments for once rather than listing unsupported and vague allegations.<br><br>Now, back to your concern about Brownskins. And the Phillipines. How about one million civilian deaths? The years were the first of the Twentieth Century. Over 100 years ago. <br><br>This is nothing new at all. It's just that sometimes it's better hidden.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Phillipines.gif/300px-Phillipines.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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