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Re: isnt that strange

Postby slimmouse » Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:56 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I have looked at articles in Nexus detailing the lengths our gov goes to suppress science would threatens their hegemony: truly incredible. All these guys end in jail or dead,<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br> Hell DBD. Are you psychic or something ? You dont even need to see the Vids to understand whats going on here.<br><br> Tom Bearden goes into extensive detail as to exactly how the game is played. Long lawsuits against the patentees, 'copyright infringements', deep psychological profile research into the weaknesses of the inventors. <br><br> Meanwhile, no doubt other posters on this thread have a perfectly feasible explanation for it all <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 2/13/06 9:07 pm<br></i>
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Postby wintler » Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:00 am

Again, where in the Bearden video, slimmouse, at what time, does he " go into extensive detail as to exactly how the game is played. Long lawsuits against the patentees, 'copyright infringements', deep psychological profile research into the weaknesses of the inventors." ?<br><br>Names? Dates? Numbers? Any basic clues about what the promised free energy devices are would be welcome.<br><br>Because you've provided none at all, and 15min of Beardens mumbling (also vacant of solid info) is all i could take. <br><br>If you haven't watched them, or have already forgotten everything useful that you think is in them, or feel that Beardens words alone prove everything and there is no need for further discussion, then just say so. <br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: - About the one major kick Ive got from this.

Postby slimmouse » Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:50 pm

<br><br> An interesting study,would be too look more closely at the patent office officials, employees et cetera.<br><br> That should bring up some interesting stuff, to put it mildy. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Bearden

Postby slimmouse » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:38 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>What's your take on him?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> For the sake of this thread, I'll repeat myself ;<br><br> What do I make of him ? Its just so hard to tell. But my rule of thumb these days is to look carefully at what people aren't saying as much as what they are, in order to gauge their trustability.<br><br>However much of what he says concurs with just about all Ive read on the subject myself, and also with what someone, who I consider to be a real expert in the ZP field has explained to me in very simple terms.<br><br>He also talks about how the academic and scientific institutions arent run on the basis of whats beneficial for mankind, but of course whats profitable for their sponsors.<br><br> He talks about how the parameters of thermodynamics are not just deliberately held in check, but indeed are being drawn back, despite the overwhelming amount of experimental results to the contrary - again for all the obvious monetary reasons. Its the old 'follow the money' deal.<br><br>Its actually rather like '9/11 goes free energy', if you will.<br><br>He talks at length about their debunking techniques, including an apparently sincere contact introducing inventors to "venture capitalists" who will himself then go to the authorities, and get immunity from prosecution by exposing a "money laundering operation disguised as venture capital to an inventor" ( which the sincere contact has himself organised ), and the inventor does 20 years in the Pen, or has his name and reputation suitably "debunked"<br><br>The use of lethal force, threats and all the rest of it to the real cute scientists. The ridiculous stand of the patent office, which actually outlaws the patenting of a perpetual motion device - since there is 'no such thing' according to the now ever narrowing parameters of Science ( see above ) - despite the fact that atoms have been in perpetual motion for 15 billion years.<br><br>None of any of this should come as any real surprise to anyone familiar with the parapolitical. And yet strangely enough, it often does on this board ! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>He talks about Tesla, and the Soviets who also know the score, and many other things.<br><br>He interestingly enough uses the term "the results of the experiments are absolutely rigorous" and emphasises that point at great length.<br><br>et cetera et cetera et cetera. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 2/14/06 8:47 pm<br></i>
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Re: Bearden

Postby dbeach » Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:51 am

<br>"He also talks about how the academic and scientific institutions arent run on the basis of whats beneficial for mankind, but of course whats profitable for their sponsors."<br><br>Exactly !<br><br>This coincides with what Doug Kenyon says in "Forbidden History"'...that the archelogists are blocking important info particularly about the Pyramids which is HUGE.<br><br>The book itself has a series of articles about the pre BIBLE history of earth which is stunning.<br><br>The scientific and acdemics are as poisoined by BIG BRO as any of the other govt institutitons.<br><br>so the fat cats get the cash while the lil players do the work<br>and of course the public seldom benefits..<br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.atlantisrising.com/">www.atlantisrising.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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ok

Postby wintler » Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:58 am

So, no names, no links (apart from to the talking head videos), no text, no pictures, diagrams or numbers.<br><br>Well, theres several suckers born every day, guess it'd be a shame to waste them. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: some skeptical views

Postby madeupname452 » Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:50 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>He concocts seemingly scientific <br>expressions like "scalar force" (a contradiction in terms) or uses genuine <br>scientific terms like "reverse solution of the wave equation" in a totally <br>different context than they usually denote, giving no explanation of what <br>he means by them, nor ever quoting any scientific or experimental evidence <br>for them. He also often uses something that he has never defined or <br>explained, let alone documented, called the "Tesla" factor. All of this <br>quasi-scientific palaver is clearly intended to impress and intimidate <br>laymen. It is virtually certain that there is nothing behind these fables, <br>and if there is, Bearden keeps it strictly to himself. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.fortfreedom.org/a17.htm">www.fortfreedom.org</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It has been shown that there are several flaws in Beardens work that suggest that his device which is supposed to convert energy from the ``active vacuum'' does not work as predicted. Other fundamental flaws suggest that Bearden lacks the knowledge and theoretical understanding of the concepts involved in electrodynamics which led him to propose basic errors as perpetual motion devices and revolutionary theories.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.phact.org/e/z/bearden/">Serious inconsistencies in Beardens MEG and his other theories</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Based on his own e-mail and the time frame (around 1999 to 2000) when he began claiming a Ph.D., Tom Bearden apparently received (or more accurately purchased) his bogus Ph.D. degree from Trinity College and university in the U.K....Note that the "new" Trinity College and University has branches (i.e. P.O. boxes) in Pakistan, Venezuela, the Netherlands, Vietnam, Jordan, and Lebanon. Apparently they do a booming business selling fake degrees to people throughout the world. According to sources I've read, the U.K. address was just another P.O. box placed in Great Britain in order to take advantage of possible confusion between their diploma mill and Cambridge University's Trinity College.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.phact.org/e/z/BeardenReview.htm">Tom Bearden - A Critical Examination of His Claims</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: some skeptical views

Postby madeupname452 » Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:01 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Why would two international oil companies share the same corporate headquarters (a beachfront house no less) with Tom Bearden and Dr. Greer?...<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>are you suggesting POSSIBLY that the oil companies might have an interest in this info being promoted by Greer and maybe even Bearden? What do you think they might gain by making Americans believe that an 'unlimited' amout of 'free' energy might soon become available? False hope? Tying free energy with UFO"S perhaps to make a sceptical public even less believing in 'free energy' ...<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>get the publics hope up, promise them free abundant energy, tie it to the fringe UFO field, then when it never comes you can blame it on those crazy conspiracy theorists... <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>you have Bearden who has (supposedly) already invented an “over unity” device, Craddock, who has solicited for funding for his own version of an “over unity” device, One oil company (Pacific Oil), and Craddock Engineering )a Petroleum People Company), as well as Dr. Greer and his CSETI and Disclosure projects all going back to this one beachfront house in Santa Barbara. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread9268.html">snipped from chemtrailcentral thread-On Tom Bearden, Oil Companies and Websites</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ok

Postby OptimisticAlgorithm » Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:53 am

Are we looking at the same videos? First Mr. Bearden is just one of the presenters. If you don't like him, don't get hung up on him. I'm skeptical of his stuff myself, and I'm still waiting for the working blueprints of the over unity devices he claims to be working on.<br><br>However, I have now viewed the first 1/3 of Bearden's presentation and I have so far counted 4 or 5 references including: Lee, Whittaker, Tesla, Tesla's surviving nephew who observed some experiments, etc.etc. Most of what he's saying here is his standard basic theory of untapped dipole energy. <br><br>The component of this that hits home with me, and I've yet to see well explained, is the permanent magnet. What the heck is it? It's certainly not a standard energy field, as a permanent magnet performs work without an energy input. I've got a couple of strong permanent magnets suspending each other against the pull of gravity. I've had them suspended continuosly for over 3 months. They don't get warm, don't run down, and don't seem to have an energy source for the work they perform except for "permanent" magnetism. What is it? If they are channeling the earth's magnetic field, then they are acting as Bearden's dipole gateway. Can anyone explain this in understandable language (a little math is OK)? I've read the theory on it and it looks like something for nothing to me.<br><br>If you view Hal Puthoff's presentation (an old RI celebrity), nothing is said which contradicts established quantum mechanical theory. Energy is there for our use if we care to fund the applied technology. This is already happening in the computer science field. There are search algorithms which effectively borrow processing time from alternate universes, and return with search results almost instantaneously. The work is performed somewhere, but not in our frame of reference. IBM has now built a very simple quantum circuit, which does function.<br><br>At least some of this technology can work if the research funding is there. I do find it interesting that just as we arrive on the cusp of practical quantum applications, the U.S. tax code is changed, and some of the world's greatest research organizations (Bell Labs and Bellcore for example) vanish almost overnight.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ok

Postby dbeach » Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:04 pm

THANX OA<br><br>Saw this about Tesla including a remote controlled boat in 1898<br><br>I have read that remote control aircraft were available after WW II<br><br>"In May 1885, George Westinghouse, head of the Westinghouse Electric Company in Pittsburgh, bought the patent rights to Tesla's polyphase system of alternating-current dynamos, transformers, and motors. The transaction precipitated a titanic power struggle between Edison's direct-current systems and the Tesla-Westinghouse alternating-current approach, which eventually won out. <br><br>Tesla soon established his own laboratory, where his inventive mind could be given free rein. He experimented with shadowgraphs similar to those that later were to be used by Wilhelm Röntgen when he discovered X-rays in 1895. Tesla's countless experiments included work on a carbon button lamp, on the power of electrical resonance, and on various types of lighting. <br><br>Tesla gave exhibitions in his laboratory in which he lighted lamps without wires by allowing electricity to flow through his body, to allay fears of alternating current. He was often invited to lecture at home and abroad. The Tesla coil, which he invented in 1891, is widely used today in radio and television sets and other electronic equipment. That year also marked the date of Tesla's United States citizenship. <br><br>Westinghouse used Tesla's system to light the World's Columbian Exposition at Chicago in 1893. His success was a factor in winning him the contract to install the first power machinery at Niagara Falls, which bore Tesla's name and patent numbers. The project carried power to Buffalo by 1896. <br><br>In 1898 Tesla announced his invention of a teleautomatic boat guided by remote control. When skepticism was voiced, Tesla proved his claims for it before a crowd in Madison Square Garden. "<br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~bogdan/tesla/bio.htm">www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~bo...la/bio.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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