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Postby Dreams End » Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:18 pm

I just had this forwarded from the local peace group. A repub pundit. Personally, this all seems to scripted to me, but for those of you who see the Dems as a real alternative, this may bring some hope.<br><br>In any event...they do their jobs well...whether it was all planned from the beginning or whether the Bushies went to far off the reservation, the timing of the leaks was impeccable. The negative assessments of generals re: Iraq - ditto.<br><br>So the only question now is, with this sort of thing coming out...if the Dems DON'T take back many seats, what's next?<br><br>Oh..."soft coup" is my made up term for change of power that looks to be fully democratic...but isn't. Think Australia, 1975...which is what I think we are seeing here. The alternative...well, you know what that is.<br><br>Maybe I'm just too cynical.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Charlie Cook's National Overview<br><br>Charlie Cook's National Overview<br>October 13, 2006<br><br>Category 5 Hurricane Heads for House GOP<br><br>Let's get the disclaimer out of the way: there are 25 days between now and the November 7 election and things could well change, making what follows obsolete.<br><br>That said, this is without question the worst political situation for the GOP since the Watergate disaster in 1974. I think a 30-seat gain today for Democrats is more likely to occur than a 15-seat gain, the minimum that would tip the majority. The chances of that number going higher are also strong, unless something occurs that fundamentally changes the dynamic of this election. This is what Republican strategists' nightmares look like.<br><br>Whether one looks at national or district-level polling data, or a survey like the new Democracy Corps survey that covered the 49 most vulnerable GOP districts, the conclusion remains the same: it is very ugly for Republicans.<br><br>On a conference call today, James Carville suggested that the Democratic Party should expand beyond just the top targeted races. He believes the party should help fund previously ignored Democratic challengers in second- and third-tier districts--the next 30 to 50 Republican-held seats--to fully capitalize on this environment and help those candidates maximize their chances of winning. Carville went as far as to suggest Democrats go to the bank and borrow $5 million. If I were them, I'd make it $10 million and put $500,000 each of these 20 districts.<br><br>For Republicans, it is a time to defend every seat, no matter how secure those seats appear. If things don't change, GOP incumbents, who never even contemplated having a difficult race, may well lose this year. And if I were a Republican, I'd start praying that something happens to take the spotlight away from Iraq and scandals, because this current issue mix is lethal.<br><br>In the Senate, there were already seven GOP seats that were virtually tied, and in three or four of those cases, politically dead. Thus, we have not seen as much movement as we've seen in the House. Readers should remember the Cook Political Report's long respected policy of not putting unindicted incumbents in a worse category than Toss Up. For more on the state of play in the Senate races, see Editor Jennifer Duffy's Senate Overview in today's update.<br><br>Can things change? Sure. The North Korean nuclear (or non-nuclear, as the case may be) tests should serve as a reminder that this election, like any other, can turn on a dime. But for Republicans, it must turn if they have any hope of salvaging this election.<br><br>Charlie Cook's National Overview<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cookpolitical.com/overview/default.php">Cook Report</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Night of the Long Knives, not Australia 1975

Postby judasdisney » Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:42 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_long_knives">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nig...ong_knives</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>First, the GOP must be consolidated. Then a Straw (wo-)Man President will be set-up. Like Gloria Arroyo, HRC will be labelled "illegitimate" & "authoritarian," hounded by charges of corruption & vote-rigging.<br><br>It could be accomplished in one swoop by simply staging a GOP walkout on "The Illegitimate President" who was chosen by the House of Representatives (see the U.S. Election of 1824) because no candidate gets a minimum electoral vote threshhold (3rd party spoiler: McCain/Lieberman, anyone?)<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_state_of_emergency_in_the_Philippines">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/200...hilippines</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Like Isabel Peron, the final Argentina President who was overthrown for the 1976 coup, HRC will try to "triangulate" and stack her cabinet with military.<br><br>So during this four-year reprieve, there's a cold beer in the fridge. Sit back, settle in, enjoy.<br><br>Watch & see: Dems take House, November 2006.<br>Economic sabotage begins en masse, to avoid Democrats impeaching anybody, investigating or making any progress, 2007-2008.<br>2008: McCain/Lieberman 3rd Party ticket splits vote, throws U.S. Presidential election into the House of Reps.<br><br>2011: The End. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: jeez...

Postby steve vegas » Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:07 pm

judasdisney, that's a bleak f*ckin' scenario, but not unlikely...i just watched a bill moyers PBS thing last night entitled, Is God Green...about how some evangelicals are embracing environmentalism side of things...rather than being heartened by all these individuals coming round to "recycling" and tree planting (nothing wrong with that mind you, i'm all for it) i thought to myself, looks like the dems will be back this november...it certainly seems as if we're being prepped for that anyway...i still think that it's highly likely that halli-bush-n-rootko will steal the election, but a change is definitely in the wind, perhaps if this election is stolen again it will actually be challenged or overturned... <p></p><i></i>
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It's in the wind

Postby judasdisney » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:24 am

Remember Coppola's film "The Conversation" with Gene Hackman (1972)? A story about eavesdropping, pawns & double-crossings, it was released at the height of Watergate. Coppola's artistic antennae seemed to be tuned-in as "The Conversation" was being filmed before Watergate actually broke.<br><br>I think there's a similar film out there right now: Scorsese's "The Departed" depicts a Law Enforcement world of infiltrators, moles & double-crossers which culminates in a broad (albeit superficial & temporary) shift in power.<br><br>Like the album cover artwork of "The Coup" foreshadowing 9/11, there's a couple of foreshadowing images (at least, if my Capitol Dome scenario plays out, it will look ominous in hindsight), including a rat roaming in front of the Golden Dome on Beacon Hill in Boston, and Jack Nicholson's burning drawing of a Capitol Dome-looking structure surrounded by rats.<br><br>Just need a couple of USAF "Al Qaeda Sympathizers" to crash F-16s into the Capitol Dome during a GOP walkout, then with all the Democrats dead, Bill Moyers will be swept up along with all the vicious meanies, out to the Halliburton domestic Gitmos... wonder where the evangelicals will stand when their tribal identity is safe at last, at the highest cost. WWJD? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: It's in the wind

Postby Gouda » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:34 am

I don't have it handy, but I saw a link at Raw Story a few weeks ago to an article about Wall Street definitively "switching sides," as it were, to back Hillary in her buildup to 2008. Ruppert Murdoch even held a fundraiser for her (I am not joking.) <br><br>I am not so sure a democratic takeover of the congress in 2006 will mean too much. If anything, it will be a preliminary step. It is all being prepared for 2008. If the democrats take the congress, it will be 2 years of pre-emptive strikes against any potentially strong, or authentic, left or right presidential contenders or policies - it will be all about defending the center and the executive. Read the Princeton Project on National Security for the centrist CFR/Kissingeresque joint GOP/DNC 2008 platform. The Iraq policy of this platform is being worked on now by the Baker III Iraq Study Group. A 2006 democratic congress will readily endorse the findings of this group (which are being strategically released after the elections.) <br><br>Cheney/Bush have strengthened the executive branch and the Pentagon and the Intelligence Complex (interchangeable) and Hillary/McCain/Guliani or whoever it will be in 2008 will enjoy this <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>fait acompli</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> as much as Bush/Cheney. Congress will not be a check or a balance, but will serve as a pool of executive/pentagon/spook enablers regardless of a democrat or republican white house. The three operative branches of government are: Executive, Pentagon, Intelligence. The corporate media and the greater corporate world will see to this. "Security, but not necessarily democracy" will reign in Iraq and in the USA. <br><br>I actually can't wait to see if and how the former CIA and Military agents for sanity, former-gov 911 truthers, rabid anti-Bush "patriots", Moveon, Daily Kos Bots, and other anti-(iraq) war people change tune when the democrats take the congress and white house in 2006 and 2008. But will Wayne Madsen be satisfied with nothing less than a military coup? Will the anti-neocon patriots settle down and relax once again to the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>star spangled banner </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->once the much less evil neoliberals take back the military-industrial complex? <br><br>If anyone takes a sigh of relief or lets up for one minute on the democrats once they are back in "power" then we know the coup was a success. <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>on edit: misplaced apostrophe</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gouda@rigorousintuition>Gouda</A> at: 10/16/06 4:43 am<br></i>
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Re: It's in the wind

Postby Gouda » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:30 am

Gosh, and don't forget about Obama. How about an Obama/General Colin Powell ticket? <br><br>If Obama is having any trouble making up his mind about a future presidential run, <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>TIME</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> is sure doing its part to help him decide: <br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/POLITICS/10/15/cover.story.tm/220CNN.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Heady stuff for a young rising star.<br> <br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/15/cover.story.tm/index.html">edition.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/15/cover.story.tm/index.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>I suggest everyone keep very close tabs on Obama's voting record and policy statements. <br><br>***<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Edit</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->: interesting that above his head: "Nuclear Rogues and <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>how to control them</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->" next to Clint's <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Heroes. </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gouda@rigorousintuition>Gouda</A> at: 10/16/06 5:40 am<br></i>
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Re: It's in the wind

Postby Dreams End » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:21 am

I think Obama may very well be the guy. I thought so in the 2004 convention. He is a mesmerizing speaker..so mesmerizing that I didn't notice that he actually said nothing progressive whatsoever. There was also some weirdness with him...some connections etc but I assume you don' t get to that level of notoriety without having such connections. <p></p><i></i>
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