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Rumsfeld's OUT

Postby ninakat » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:09 pm

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Postby bobdobbs » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:12 pm

Here's the guy taking his place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Gates
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Buying time.

Postby HughManateeWins » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:16 pm

At this point I'm almost willing to accept the illusion of change being offered. Almost.

A new PR man for Vietnam II? Yeah, that might prevent out and out mutiny. For a while.

I think this pushes us just a step closer to President Wesley Clark in 2008 to control the most important constituency the Council on Foreign Relations needs for its PNAC goals, the military.
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Another IranContra criminal, no wonder.

Postby HughManateeWins » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:21 pm

He was offered Negroponte's Gestapo Chief job but didn't take it.

from the wiki entry linked above-
Biography

Intelligence career

While at Indiana University, Gates was recruited to join the Central Intelligence Agency. But before joining the CIA full-time as an intelligence analyst, he spent two years in the Air Force; one job was giving intelligence briefings to ICBM missile crews at Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri. (The CIA offered no escape from the draft during the Vietnam War.)[1]

Gates left the CIA in 1974 to serve on the National Security Council staff but returned to the CIA in late 1979. He was named the Director of the DCI/DDCI Executive Staff in 1981, Deputy Director for Intelligence in 1982, and Deputy Director of Central Intelligence from April 18, 1986, to March 20, 1989. In early 1987 he was nominated to become the Director of Central Intelligence in early 1987, but withdrew after it became clear that the Senate would reject the nomination because of controversy about his role in the Iran-Contra affair.

Gates was Deputy Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs from March until August of 1989, and was Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Adviser from August 1989 until November 1991. He was nominated (for the second time) for the position of Director of Central Intelligence by President Bush on May 14, 1991, confirmed by the Senate on November 5, and sworn in on November 6, becoming the only career officer in the CIA's history (as of 2005) to rise from entry-level employee to Director. Deputy Directors during his tenure were Richard J. Kerr (from November 6, 1991, until March 2, 1992) and Adm. William O. Studeman (from April 9, 1992, through the remainder of Dr. Gates’ tenure).

During his 26-year career as an intelligence professional, he spent almost nine years on the National Security Council, serving four Presidents of both major political parties.

In 1996, his memoirs were published under the title From the Shadows: The Ultimate Insider's Story of Five Presidents and How They Won the Cold War.

Gates has been highly decorated for his service: he was the recipient of the National Security Medal and the Presidential Citizens Medal, was twice awarded the National Intelligence Distinguished Service Medal, and three times received the Distinguished Intelligence Medal.

Career after leaving the CIA

Gates became the 22nd President of Texas A&M University on August 1, 2002 following a tenure as Interim Dean of the George Bush School of Government and Public Service at Texas A&M from 1999 to 2001. He has served as a member of the board of trustees of The Fidelity Funds, and on the board of directors of NACCO Industries, Inc., Brinker International, Inc. and Parker Drilling Company, Inc. He also served as President of the National Eagle Scout Association during the mid-2000s.


'Officials said Robert Gates, former head of the CIA, would replace Rumsfeld ' WASHINGTON (AP) -- Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, architect of an unpopular war in Iraq, intends to resign after six stormy years at the Pentagon, Republican officials said Wednesday.

Officials said Robert Gates, former head of the CIA, would replace Rumsfeld.

Director of National Intelligence Offer

In February 2005, Gates wrote in a message posted on his school's website that "There seems to be a growing number of rumors in the media and around campus that I am leaving Texas A&M to become the new director of national intelligence ('Intelligence Czar') in Washington, D.C." The message said that "To put the rumors to rest, I was indeed asked to take the position, wrestled with perhaps the most difficult -- and close -- decision of my life, and last week declined the position."

Gates committed to remain as President of Texas A&M University through the summer of 2007; President George W. Bush offered the position of United States Director of National Intelligence (DNI) to John Negroponte, who accepted.[1]

Gates said in a 2005 discussion with the university's Academy for Future International Leaders that he had tentatively decided to accept the DNI position out of a sense of duty and had written an email that would be sent to students during the press conference to announce his decision, explaining that he was leaving to serve the U.S. once again. Gates, however, took the weekend to consider what his final decision should be, and ultimately decided that he was unwilling to return to Washington, D.C. in any capacity simply because he "had nothing to look forward to in D.C. and plenty to look forward to at A&M."

Secretary of Defense

On November 8, 2006 George W. Bush nominated Robert Gates to serve as Secretary of Defense in the wake of Donald Rumsfeld's resignation.
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Postby OnoI812 » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:36 pm

Completely meaningless

Rumsfeld was already in a box, Baker and the oilboys were already in control.

This announcement and it's timing is the equivalent of a hypnotist swinging his pocketwatch "you are getting sleepy...sleeeeeepy". Meanwhile the control of the senate hangs in the balance and there are all manner of shenanighans ensuing in Virginia this very instant.
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Mil-Intel Lovemaking

Postby Gouda » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:41 pm

Buzzkill.

A General as head of the CIA. Ex-CIA as head of the Generals. It doesn't get much cozier than that.


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Re: Mil-Intel Lovemaking

Postby nomo » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:47 pm

Gouda wrote:Buzzkill.

A General as head of the CIA. Ex-CIA as head of the Generals. It doesn't get much cozier than that.


Well said.

Just shut up and shop, people.
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Re: Mil-Intel Lovemaking

Postby OnoI812 » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:02 pm

Gouda wrote:Buzzkill.

A General as head of the CIA. Ex-CIA as head of the Generals. It doesn't get much cozier than that.


A dog that shows it's fangs is still just a dog...a dog that wants attention while it's master escapes
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Postby nomo » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:15 pm

Mr. Bush said Mr. Gates was an ideal choice to apply a new perspective to Iraq, since he has been an adviser to several presidents. Perhaps more important, Mr. Gates is a member of the bipartisan commission that has been studying the Iraq campaign with the possibility of charting a new direction.

That panel, formally the Iraq Study Group, is headed by James A. Baker 3d, secretary of state and a top adviser to the first President Bush, and Lee Hamilton, former Democratic Congressman from Indiana and co-chairman of the 9/11 commission.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/08/us/po ... SHCND.html
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...of course!

Postby Gouda » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:44 pm

Amazing. Moving right along. Iran-Contra meets the Balkans.

Iraq Partition: Bipartisan Perps, Mindset and Planning
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/v ... t+planning
2.) Baker III / Iraq Study Group
www.usip.org/isg/members.html

The Iraq Study Group is a bipartisan group of prominent Americans supported by four premier institutions. It is led by co-chairs James A. Baker, III, the nation's 61st Secretary of State and Honorary Chairman of the James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy at Rice University, and Lee H. Hamilton, former Congressman and Director of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. The other members of the study group include: Robert M. Gates, Vernon E. Jordan, Jr., Edwin Meese III , Sandra Day O'Connor, Leon E. Panetta, William J. Perry, Charles S. Robb, and Alan K. Simpson.

Check out the who's who in the "expert working groups" as well. It's the mil-intel-corporate complex in full bloom under the misnomered "US Institute for Peace." Lots of old Balkan hands in there as well. Lessons learned, I'm sure.
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Now's when the fun starts!

Postby OptimisticAlgorithm » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:22 pm

OK, so Baker/Cheney/Bush have nominated the Grimm Reaper for SOD, so what? The US just had the closest thing to an electorial mandate that has been seen in many, many years. It was all against this kind of horseshit.

There won't be a better time to start to hold the new congress' feet to the fire than right now. Yes, the bitter, lame duck jerks will try and stick us with Gates if they can, but the opposition party now knows they won't be punished for standing up to the administration, as they were in 2002. The current opposition, who will almost all be returning in 2007 as the majority, had better be told loudly and clearly to stop this facist crap ASAP. Yes, they may not be as anti-facist as we would like, but if they want to keep their nice shiney new jobs and servants, they had better deliver!

I look forward to the screams of the pundit-shills who won't be getting their Xmas bonuses this year.
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Gettin outta dodge

Postby MASONIC PLOT » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:22 pm

Rumsfeld's getting out of dodge before the war crimes trials start lol
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Detainees' lawyers want Rumsfeld tried for war crimes

Postby nomo » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:34 pm

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/ ... index.html

Detainees' lawyers want Rumsfeld tried for war crimes

Donald Rumsfeld may be looking forward to living out his golden years at his vacation home on the Eastern Shore, but lawyers who represent detainees at Guantánamo Bay have other ideas. In a message just sent to reporters, they say they intend to file war crimes charges against Rumsfeld next week in Germany, arguing that his departure from the Department of Defense means that he's no longer entitled to immunity from prosecution.

It won't be the first time lawyers at the Center for Constitutional Rights have tried to persuade German authorities to prosecute Rumsfeld for war crimes. They tried in 2004 -- the subject then was Abu Ghraib -- but German officials declined to pursue the matter because, they said, the United States was investigating on its own. Still, it's clear that Rumsfeld took the prospect of prosecution at least a little bit seriously at the time. Before German prosecutors announced they wouldn't be taking up the case, Rumsfeld said he'd have to think twice about whether he could take the risk of traveling to Germany for a meeting there.

CCR lawyers say that, under Rumsfeld's direction, the Department of Defense has "adopted the practices of torture and indefinite detention" that they're challenging in a number of other cases.
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Re: Gettin outta dodge

Postby BlueCherub » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:51 pm

MASONIC PLOT wrote:Rumsfeld's getting out of dodge before the war crimes trials start lol


Parguay perhaps?
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Rumsfeld

Postby yathrib » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:09 pm

This *really* means nothing. Rumsfeld is no worse--or better--than any of the other war criminals in the Bush administration. The only satisfactory ending for any of them is trial before the World Court.
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