It's Bush-Cheney, Not Rove-Libby

by **dbeach** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:59 pm

this author is Rich in thought. <a href="http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/101605Z.shtml">www.truthout.org/docs_2005/101605Z.shtml</a> "It's Bush-Cheney, Not Rove-Libby There hasn't been anything like it since Martha Stewart fended off questions about her stock-trading scandal by manically chopping cabbage on "The Early Show" on CBS. Last week the setting was "Today" on NBC, where the image of President Bush manically hammering nails at a Habitat for Humanity construction site on the Gulf Coast was juggled with the sight of him trying to duck Matt Lauer's questions about Karl Rove. As with Ms. Stewart, Mr. Bush's paroxysm of panic was must-see TV. "The president was a blur of blinks, taps, jiggles, pivots and shifts," Dana Milbank wrote in The Washington Post. Asked repeatedly about Mr. Rove's serial appearances before a Washington grand jury, the jittery Mr. Bush, for once bereft of a script, improvised a passable impersonation of Norman Bates being quizzed by the detective in "Psycho." Like Norman and Ms. Stewart, he stonewalled. That stonewall may start to crumble in a Washington courtroom this week or next. In a sense it already has. Now, as always, what matters most in this case is not whether Mr. Rove and Lewis Libby engaged in a petty conspiracy to seek revenge on a whistle-blower, Joseph Wilson, by unmasking his wife, Valerie, a covert C.I.A. officer. What makes Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation compelling, whatever its outcome, is its illumination of a conspiracy that was not at all petty: the one that took us on false premises into a reckless and wasteful war in Iraq. That conspiracy was instigated by Mr. Rove's boss, George W. Bush, and Mr. Libby's boss, Dick Cheney. Mr. Wilson and his wife were trashed to protect that larger plot. Because the personnel in both stories overlap, the bits and pieces we've learned about the leak inquiry over the past two years have gradually helped fill in the über-narrative about the war. Last week was no exception. Deep in a Wall Street Journal account of Judy Miller's grand jury appearance was this crucial sentence: "Lawyers familiar with the investigation believe that at least part of the outcome likely hangs on the inner workings of what has been dubbed the White House Iraq Group.""

by **Col Quisp** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:05 pm

Right on: <a href="http://news.ft.com/cms/s/2285dbae-3e7c-11da-a2cb-00000e2511c8.html">news.ft.com/cms/s/2285dba...511c8.html</a> White House prepares for possible indictments By Caroline Daniel in Washington Published: October 16 2005 20:42 | Last updated: October 16 2005 20:42 <blockquote>Quote:<hr>The White House is bracing itself for the possible indictment of senior officials as Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor, prepares to wrap up his two-year inquiry into the leaking of a covert CIA agent's name. Further details about the role of White House officials were underlined in a report in the New York Times on Sunday. Judith Miller, the reporter released from jail after 85 days after she agreed to testify before a grand jury, gave an account of her conversations with Scooter Libby, chief of staff to Dick Cheney, vice-president. She also admitted that Mr Fitzgerald had asked whether Mr Cheney had personally authorised Mr Libby to speak. In a more ominous sign, Ms Miller said Mr Fitzgerald's questions went beyond the leaking of the CIA name to probe the administration's selective leaking of intelligence information ahead of the Iraq war. During the hearing, she said he repeatedly asked how Mr Libby handled classified information and showed her some documents. “[They] seemed familiar, and that they might be excerpts from the National Intelligence Estimate of Iraq's weapons. Mr Fitzgerald asked whether Mr Libby had shown any of the documents to me. I thought I remembered him at one point reading from a piece of paper he pulled from his pocket,” she wrote. It remains unclear whether Mr Fitzgerald will issue indictments the grand jury is due to be dismissed on October 28 but the mood at the White House is one of foreboding. It could prove to be one of the most critical weeks of George W. Bush's presidency. It comes amid deteriorating poll numbers for Mr Bush, with only 28 per cent of Americans agreeing that the country is on the “right track” the lowest level for a decade. Of most concern is the role of Karl Rove, Mr Bush's chief political strategist. On Friday, he testified for a fourth time before the grand jury. Ahead of his testimony he was warned that there was no guarantee that he would not be indicted. Mr Rove has not received a letter saying he is a target of the investigation but he has been adopting a lower profile recently. He was due to speak at a fund raising event on Saturday but cancelled. He did not return to the White House on Friday after his testimony, according to the New York Times.<hr></blockquote> Brace yourselves. We're in for a bumpy ride.

by **Gouda** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:23 pm

While this the main event is going on, maybe this coming week, and while we are chewing on the popcorn and slugging the champagne (OK, not the best combo, *burp*) - it will be even more important to keep our eyes on the periphery for what might be tracking across the radar or slipping under it. Why do I feel the denouement to all this might not bring such sweet relief after the tension? I'd hate to think this is just another arousing buildup meant to deflate - to demoralize and cynicize us further. Though, I think many of us are beyond, or around that by now. Anyway, just preparing myself in advance for a letdown. If it becomes all I wanted and more, then I probably will snarf bubbly and popcorn together in sheer ecstacy.

by **dbeach** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:57 pm

my bet is no letdown but acontinuing sporadic buildup to the corprat grandfinale..whatever that is.. 1.}good scenario.= rove,card and libby get busted and do hard time 2.}better= same for bush and cheny 3.} mucho better= same plus poppy o 4.} BEST= It all leads to the corporata swines who they work for. [even though poppy o has achieved a very high level of independence and has become the american dynasty of crime..he is still very much connected internationally] One or more of these scenarios shall come to pass. IF its inadequate..i.e. ..the bush criminals get off easy and continue to run wild on our tax dollars then Mr. fitzgerald was compromised [highly unlikely at this moment in time}

by **Gouda** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:09 pm

Hope so. Should he pull all that off and more, maybe even linking in 911 LIHOP at minimum, then we want HIM for President in 08. Fitzie = Maitreya in new disguise !! ??

by **ewastud** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:11 am

While we watch what is happening on the CIA leak case, we should keep aware of such things as this confrontation on the Iran-Iraq border yesterday which Iran says Britain provoked, and the Nazi march in Toledo. However, that said, I am hopeful that the worst is yet to come for BushCo and the GOP. In fact, I suspect Fat Karl and the White House are not emotionally or mentally prepared to contemplate worst case scenarios. Although they generally try to anticipate and prepare, they live in a bubble in an alternative universe much of the time, it seems. If Bush and Cheney are named as unindicted co-conspirators and the evidence is publicly laid out for Congressional exercise of its impeachment powers, the GOP and the White House will be just beside themselves with anger to know how to react. If Bush-Cheney and the GOP were not already suffering so badly in polls and there not being as sense of crisis in the country, perhaps they might fake and spin their way around the scandal with the help of a corrupt media, and the public would not be the wiser. But all eyes are on them now, and they cannot escape public gaze and scrutiny any longer. The public has been awoken (or at least half- awoken). Hardly anything has been said in the press of a CIA report to Congress which told of the damage done by the Plame leak. The very silence about the report suggests (also as rumor has it from Wayne Madsen) that there was very serious damage done indeed, and this is why Fitzgerald and Judge Hogan have indicated the extreme seriousness of the case. I expect the indictment charges will be broader and deeper than most anyone has anticipated. But we shall see. BTW, my journalist sister has remarked about Judith Miller's father reportedly being the Gambino crime family's numero uno casino operator. We all know the close association between organized crime and government spooks. Now it has become public knowledge that Miller had a security clearance for her "in bedded" reportage in Iraq. This sounds like just another way to say she was a government proprandist under the cover as a NYT reporter -- in short, also an undercover spook. How much do you want to bet Sulzberger (NYT owner) was aware of this, too? I say Miller and Sultzberger should both be frog-marched to the Hague, with Msrs. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, et al to stand trial for war crimes.

by **dbeach** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:28 am

WELCOME EWASTED Dont bogart that stuff and study this..you will smile as the positive post of some Fitz entusiasit on a halo forum. Its about half down this thread and by ANTIaristo who is quoting from the dude. <a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessageRange?topicID=1365.topic&start=41&stop=60">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...41&stop=60</a>