plamegate detail:embassy burglary in 1991 or 2001?

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plamegate detail:embassy burglary in 1991 or 2001?

Postby hmm » Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:00 pm

if the burglary occured 10 years earlier than commonly reported this has some interesting implications?<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/29/AR2005102901478_2.html?sub=AR">www.washingtonpost.com/wp...tml?sub=AR</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"The chain of events that led to Friday's indictment can be traced as far back as 1991, when an unremarkable burglary took place at the embassy of Niger in Rome. All that turned up missing was a quantity of official letterhead with "Republique du Niger" at its top."<br>~snip~<br>"Staff writers Dan Eggen, Dafna Linzer, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Dana Milbank</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> and Christopher Lee, and researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report."<br><br>from bellaciao:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=7256">bellaciao.org/en/article....ticle=7256</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"JANUARY 2001 BREAK-IN AT NIGER EMBASSY<br><br>At night, between the first and second of the January 2001, a mysterious thief came to the embassy of Niger in Rome and into the residence of the counselor in charge. It turned out that some letterhead and seals (see photocopy) were missing.<br>~snip~<br>ROME MEETING IN DECEMBER 2001<br><br>Michael Ledeen organized a meeting in Rome to gather evidence to support the planned war. Present were:<br><br>1. Michael Ledeen, Karl Rove’s foreign policy advisor and organizer of the meeting<br>2. Nicolo Pollari, head of the the Italian equivalent of the CIA, the SISMI<br>3. Italy’s Minister of Defense, Antonio Martino (no relation apparently to the spy Rocco Martino), Pollari’s boss<br>4. Larry Franklin, an American who presently is being prosecuted in the US for giving classified information to an Israeli front group, AIPC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) -- which some would call "spying," even though he has not been charged with espionage<br>5. Harold Rhode: member of Dick Cheney’s Office of Special Plans, protege of Ledeen, go-between with Iraqi exile and CIA asset (at the time) Ahmed Chalabi."<br><br>so not long after 9-11 larry franklin, the aipac spy, and ledeen meet with cia puppet spy organisation SISME in what may become to be seen as the beginning of the end of the bush administration..<br>or is it the beginning of some really weird spin we are going to see in the weeks to come as certain people fight for survival?<br>i personally like the idea of bush blaming his daddy for his downfall or the neocons blaming some democrat-cia-un-nwo "shadow goverment" <p></p><i></i>
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Re: plamegate detail:embassy burglary in 1991 or 2001?

Postby marykmusic » Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:17 pm

Sounds like the yellowcake-from-Niger forgery was planned by Bush I and not needed... then perhaps the letterhead changed but the Modus Operendi didn't.<br><br>Interesting. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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Re: plamegate detail:embassy burglary in 1991 or 2001?

Postby Qutb » Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:02 pm

I noticed that. Damage control? If the burglary occured in 1991, the connection with the 2003 invasion (and 9/11?) is less apparent. Didn't La Repubblica claim it happened in 2001? Or what was the original source for that? <p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:black;font-family:century gothic;font-size:x-small;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br></p><i></i>
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Re: plamegate detail:embassy burglary in 1991 or 2001?

Postby albion » Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:38 pm

La Repubblica said on July 16, 2003 that the burglary occurred on "a night sometime between 29 December 2000 and 1 January 2001." <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://nuralcubicle.blogspot.com/2005/07/niger-yellowcake-story-italian-version.html">nuralcubicle.blogspot.com...rsion.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>They reported the same thing in last weeks series. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: plamegate detail:embassy burglary in 1991 or 2001?

Postby Qutb » Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:07 pm

Thanks for the link. I think we caught the Post in an act of shameless cover-up here. <p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:black;font-family:century gothic;font-size:x-small;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br></p><i></i>
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Re:Wolfowitz and Libby

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:23 pm

were the ONLY two folks to publicly announce how upset they were at poppy for pulling out of Iraq. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Re:Wolfowitz and Libby

Postby dbeach » Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:33 pm

MO remains same break-ins..cover -ups and scapegoating..Fall guys lke libby MAY not even know the studio bosses were gonna use him IF the plots went awry..<br><br>AND they conceal further the crimes in layers of red hering clues and complicate it all by allowing more syndicates in on the action..Off topic a bit BUT From JFK to 9/11 Many different crime syndicates may have participated..<br><br>HOWEVER the end results in the criminals maintaining power and offering up insiders as their fall guys..to appease the commoners..<br><br>TIL NOW!!!<br><br>This is the LAST CALL for ALL of the Judicial system. <p></p><i></i>
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Re:60 Minutes' Forged Document Story Was Delayed by WH and S

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:38 pm

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/006892.php" target="top">www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/006892.php</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>"TPM: 60 Minutes' Forged Document Story Was Delayed by WH and Sen Roberts"<br><br>As well as Rather's NG story...<br><br>At the Washington Post online yesterday, Jeff Morley raised the possibility that last year's Dan Rather/National Guard papers scandal may have prevented CBS's 60 Minutes from airing a story on the origins of the Niger forgeries. Referring to Elisabetta Burba, the Italian journalist who was offered the forgeries in October 2002, Morley writes ...<br><br>Burba "has also been interviewed by the CBS investigative show '60 Minutes ' for a piece on the documents that was pulled in the wake of the problems that brought down Dan Rather," according to the LAT. <br>But after suffering a major black eye last year for relying on forged documents for a story about President Bush's National Guard service, CBS would risk controversy if it aired a story about how the Bush administration allegedly relied on doctored intelligence in the run-up to the Iraq war. CBS's coverage would seem to be handcuffed, at least temporarily, by Rather's 2004 election mistake.<br><br><br><br>This account is incomplete and substantially incorrect. But that's no criticism of Morley because the actual story has never been publicly aired.<br><br>Allow me to explain.<br><br>By the late spring of 2004, 60 Minutes had interviewed Burba, the Italian journalist, Rocco Martino, the 'security consultant' who had attempted to sell her the documents in October 2002, and the SISMI asset (the female Italian national) who works in the Nigerien Embassy in Rome. The interviews implicated Antonio Nucera, a colonel from the Italian intelligence service SISMI, as the immediate source of the documents. After an initial conversation, Nucera himself refused all contact with the reporters working on the story.<br><br>After this, a string of problems delayed the airing of the story.<br><br>First, given the nature of the story, CBS, understandably, felt it was necessary to have an administration official interviewed to provide the administration's side of the story. Yet after initial arrangements had been made to interview mid-range administration officials for the story, they later declined to be interviewed. Eventually, it became clear that no Bush administration officials would agree to be interviewed for the story. <br><br>That delayed the story. But eventually, Sen. Roberts (R-KS), chairman of the senate select committee on intelligence, himself agreed to provide an interview. His only condition was that he would only speak on camera after the senate intelligence committee issued its report that summer.<br><br>That necessitated a further delay. But it also appeared to clear the way for the airing of the story mid-summer. The story was held until the senate report was released.<br><br>However, after the senate intel report appeared in early July, Roberts first equivocated and then finally withdrew his promise to provide an interview for the story.<br><br>Again, the story was held up because there was no administration official or Republican congressional figure who agreed to be interviewed. And that is where the matter stood late in the summer of 2004. <br><br>Over the next two months, in response to the interviews noted above and other reporting implicating SISMI, a series of leaks began to emerge out of SISMI that were picked up in sympathetic Italian dailies as well as the Financial Times and the Daily Telegraph. In response to these reports and, for the first time, the publication of his name, Martino again travelled to the United States for another round of interviews.<br><br>Eventually, a version of the Niger story was produced. But it had the interviews with Martino and the SISMI asset who works in the Nigerien embassy removed. While the segment provided a compelling narrative of the story of the infamous "sixteen words", it contained little or no information that had not already been reported in major newspaper coverage of the story. The reporting implicating the Italian government and SISMI were set aside for a possible follow-up report. <br><br>The produced segment was scheduled to be aired on Wednesday, September 8th, 2004. Several days before the airing, however, the possibility was raised that the Niger story would be bumped in favor of Dan Rather's segment on President Bush and the National Guard. As late as the day of airing itself, a final decision had yet to be made on which segment would run. <br><br>Once the scandal over Guard memos erupted, CBS decided that it could not run a story about forged Niger memos while it was embroiled in a scandal about forged National Guard memos. Later, CBS announced it would not run the story because it was too soon before the November election. After the election was over, no plans were made to run the piece, either in the expurgated or complete form. <br><br>-- Josh Marshall <br><br><br>Roberts part of the cover-up <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Re:60 Minutes' Forged Document Story Was Delayed by WH a

Postby dbeach » Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:52 pm

So bush sr following MO blames Rather an ultra insider and attendant to 11/22/63 as possibly a warning to lay off jr and <br><br>"KEEPA U MUTHA SHUTA" about 11/22/63 <p></p><i></i>
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Dana Milbank

Postby antiaristo » Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:57 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"Staff writers Dan Eggen, Dafna Linzer, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Dana Milbank</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> and Christopher Lee, and researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>That's a trifecta for Dana Milbank.<br><br>1) He was part of the October 4 2003 story that outed B-J<br><br>2) He used his column to ridicule John Conyers hearings on th DSM<br><br>3) He is lying about the date of the break-in<br><br>Question. Is there ANYBODY at the top of US media that is NOT a traitor????<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Dana Milbank

Postby dbeach » Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:09 pm

"Question. Is there ANYBODY at the top of US media that is NOT a traitor????"<br><br>Possible BUT not probable. <p></p><i></i>
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