Rabin's Bodyguard Calls for New Inquiry

by **israelirealities** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:49 pm

<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/israel">news.yahoo.com/fc/world/israel</a> FULL COVERAGE: Israel AP Rabin's Bodyguard Calls for New Inquiry AP - Fri Nov 4,11:15 AM ET JERUSALEM - Ten years after Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated, the official responsible for his security at the time is calling for a new inquiry into intelligence and security failures leading up to the killing. Dror Yitzhaki, who headed the Shin Bet internal security services' bodyguard unit at the time, brushed off conspiracy theories that assassin Yigal Amir was not the lone gunman. But his call for a new inquiry will almost certainly fuel far-right activists who have long called for another investigation. A little storm in Israel re the allegations of cover up in the Rabin Assassination.

by **slimmouse** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:03 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Ten years after Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated, the official responsible for his security at the time is calling for a new inquiry into intelligence and security failures leading up to the killing. Dror Yitzhaki, who headed the Shin Bet internal security services' bodyguard unit at the time, brushed off conspiracy theories that assassin Yigal Amir was not the lone gunman. But his call for a new inquiry will almost certainly fuel far-right activists who have long called for another investigation.<hr></blockquote> If i might be allowed to use my "Rigorous intuition" here. Rabin was whacked. He was whacked by the same people who whacked both Kennedys, MLK, Lennon, Princess Diana and all the rest of them. Good Heavens, its not even rigorous and its not even fucking intuition. Give peace a chance ? Sure. If you live long enough.

by **israelirealities** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:32 pm

Yes, that's the bottom line, but its still interesting to know how exactly it came about. This bit of news here from Yahoo, IS NOT (yet ?) in Hebrew websites. I think it will fuel this week's storm...I wrote a fairly moderate post on the issue, the next day, I was trashed as a " conspiracy theorist who sees the Zionists behind every problem in the world"... My focus was on the statements of Shimon Peres and Carmi Gilon to the allegations. Without taking sides on the merits of the "conspiracy" allegaion, I thought their statements were very disturbing and justified an inquiry in and of itself. Peres' statement was that those who say there was a conspiracy headed by him "Should be committed to psychiatric institution" and Gilon said "we should have executed Amir like a dog, as we do with all terrorists" (namely, he admits ISrael is violating the law and killing people who were caught after a crime and are disarmed). Both these statements are indicative of their attitude to civil rights and human rights. This assassination investigation wreaks of a coverup, but I have no idea who is what and why...too many spins and lies, can't see the forest from the trees... Today's Haaretz website has a feature on it, also calling moderately for opening of the investigation and declassifying all the secret materials (like x-rays and what not). In the backtalks one person response I liked - he said, don't be naive suddenly this entire state was founded and run on scams and plots and conspirarices from day one, and now the cover ups are actually NEEDED to prevent mass suicide, if the people knew the truth. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> ) something true about it. Apparently, we are here in the dark, as so many unholy scams . Be sure, most people here are as ignorant as one can get about what YOU guys here write. Its an essential part of keeping all this going. Haaretz also has a large feature on Chomsky this week. While you discuss whether and how much Chomsky is a gatekeeper (with the Arudetti Roy analysis of NGO's as airdung), in ISrael he is still a "tabboo", a traitor and way out of legitimate culture, just because he says ZIonism is aggressive and because he defended the right of holocaust deniers to protected speech.

by **slimmouse** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:17 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Peres' statement was that those who say there was a conspiracy headed by him "Should be committed to psychiatric institution" and Gilon said "we should have executed Amir like a dog, as we do with all terrorists" (namely, he admits ISrael is violating the law and killing people who were caught after a crime and are disarmed). Both these statements are indicative of their attitude to civil rights and human rights.<hr></blockquote> Several points spring to mind to me here, and perhaps as someone who doesnt live in Israel, I might draw upon your own most forthright experience - an incredibly brave and honest stance as I see it; 1) "should be committed to a psychiatric institution". Well I'll be. Isnt that where we in the west are going ? Anyone who mentions conspiracies, be it regarding the Rabin assassination in Israel, the 2004 US elections, the Australian war opposition, anyone who "glorifies or incites" terrorism under new UK laws, should be either certified or arrested courtesy of laws introduced to "protect us". I wonder what Dreams veritas end, Proldic, or dare I say it our fine host have to say about such clearcut intent of such fascism in action ? 2) The fact that people have been driven largely by their own leaders to these "final solutions" with regard to dissent. Hardly surprising in itself, until of course you "hypothetically speaking" look at the other side of the coin, where we are now being told on this very board that the whole situation is just as bad. Scary right ? Sure, but talk about feeding the hand that bites you ! How the fuck is the possibility of Heidenburg and Co more pressing than dealing with the reality of the 4th reich today ? Strikes me as meaningless bullshit from where Im sat. The plain truth here is that these saddos who rule us are clearly intent on frightening us all to accept such action - and at the same time attempting to intimidate us all into silence - talk about Orwell personified - albeit with more subtle shades. Meanwhile, How hard can it be for the shitheads that rule us to induce in your own people in Israel this state of fear , considering your own geographical logistics - I mean look at how the machine has frightened everyone who to all intents and purposes are a relative lifetime away from the cauldron of the real conflict, into virtual submission courtesy of their media induced bullshit. The only answer IMO is to say fuck the consequences, and protest this WAR WAR WAR bullshit. Fuck the diversions too.

by **banned** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:14 am

I'm not familiar with that. Thanks!

by **Seventhson** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:31 am

The link sends me to a news "roundup" of stories, but none of them has the headline your post does. I would like to rd it and thank you for the reminder of this terrible event. When I was in Israel I went to the Peace plaza where the assassination took place, lit a candle at the shrine/memorial site there (much to the chagrin of my right wing Israeli "handler/guides") and scoped out the assassination scene with photographs of the angles, etc. A perfect place for a hit, not unlike the assassinations of JFK and Bobby Kennedy: public, easy access, crowds, confusion, and easy logistics for the killer(s) (especially if there was, as I believe, collusion with those within the security forces). This assassination, like those of the Kennedies, has done more to prevent peace in our time and let the neo-Reich of the Bushes arise again (as the intelligence services well know) than almost any other since then. If Rabin had lived and succeeded, I do not believe Bush would be president (even wrongfully) or that we would be at war in Iraq or that 9-11 would have happened. So this story, and with it the consciousness of its significance for those who have little knoweldge of what this murder meant for global peace and security, is VERY important for all of us. He was a martyr for the ages. Even though imperfect by any measure, Rabin remains, to me, a saint.

by **israelirealities** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:34 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Why should these agencies fund NGOs? Could it be just old-fashioned missionary zeal? Guilt? It's a little more than that. NGOs give the impression that they are filling the vacuum created by a retreating state. And they are, but in a materially inconsequential way. Their real contribution is that they defuse political anger and dole out as aid or benevolence what people ought to have by right. They alter the public psyche. They turn people into dependent victims and blunt the edges of political resistance. NGOs form a sort of buffer between the sarkar and public. Between Empire and its subjects. They have become the arbitrators, the interpreters, the facilitators. In the long run, NGOs are accountable to their funders, not to the people they work among. They're what botanists would call an indicator species. It's almost as though the greater the devastation caused by neo-liberalism, the greater the outbreak of NGOs. Nothing illustrates this more poignantly than the phenomenon of the U.S. preparing to invade a country and simultaneously readying NGOs to go in and clean up the devastation. In order make sure their funding is not jeopardized and that the governments of the countries they work in will allow them to function, NGOs have to present their work in a shallow framework more or less shorn of a political or historical context. At any rate, an inconvenient historical or political context.<hr></blockquote> <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/static/Arundhati_Trans.shtml">www.democracynow.org/stat...rans.shtml</a> At least in our case, this applies, mainly to the "peace NGOs" operating on and in ISrael, actually funded by US money (either Jewish or govenrmental). I think it was courageous of her to say it this way, although I can see the potential for misuse or misapplication.

by **israelirealities** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:38 am

yes, that was interesting. the Yahoo bit disappreard about 20 minutes after it was on their main homepage and was replaced with other coverages...the statement did not disappear but it was placed within a larger descriptive item of the ceremony in Jerusalem. I don't know if Yahoo do that often, i don't think so. it was bizarre. I went back to look for this bit of news and...it was gone.

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IR, what is your reference to Arundhati Roy?

Can you give us a better link IR???

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