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Questions on plane crashes

Postby darkbeforedawn » Sun May 14, 2006 10:53 pm

I just saw part of a cd that outlines case that bushco brought down JFK11 plane by using mindcontrolled suicide pilot. Want to read more about it but google brings up nothing. Anyone ever hear of this theory or have any links? Btw...didja see this? lightning...a likely story.... <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/05/13/plane_carrying_sen_kennedy_struck_by_lightning/">www.boston.com/news/local...lightning/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Plane carrying Sen. Kennedy struck by lightning<br>May 13, 2006<br><br>BOSTON --A small jet carrying U.S. Sen. Edward M. Kennedy from a commencement speech in western Massachusetts to his Cape Cod home on Saturday was struck by lightning and had to be diverted to New Haven, Conn., a Kennedy spokeswoman said.<br><br>Article Tools<br>Printer friendly <br>E-mail to a friend <br>Mass. RSS feed <br>Available RSS feeds <br>Most e-mailed <br>More:<br>Globe City/Region stories | <br>Latest local news | <br>Globe front page | <br>Boston.com <br>Sign up for: Globe Headlines e-mail | Breaking News Alerts The eight-seat Cessna Citation 550 lost all electrical power, including communications, and the pilot had to fly the plane manually, according to Melissa Wagoner, Kennedy's press secretary. No one was hurt.<br><br>The Massachusetts Democrat had just delivered the commencement address at the Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts in North Adams and was on his way from Pittsfield Municipal Airport to Hyannis to spend Mother's Day with family when the plane was struck at about 4 p.m., she said.<br><br>The jet landed at New Haven at 4:11 p.m. without incident, said Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Arlene Murray. A report was filed with the agency, which will look into the incident, she said.<br><br>Kennedy planned to stay in Connecticut overnight because he is scheduled to deliver another commencement address at Springfield College on Sunday, Wagoner said.<br><br>© Copyright 2006 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.<br> Ads by Google what's this? <br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Questions on plane crashes

Postby chiggerbit » Sun May 14, 2006 11:10 pm

Wasn't Ted Kennedy supposed to be on the same plane that Welstone was on that crashed, killing Wellstone and a couple of members of his family, as well as others? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Questions on plane crashes

Postby greencrow0 » Sun May 14, 2006 11:16 pm

I read Mike Ruppert's very comprehensive expose of the Wellstone crash in 'Crossing the Rubicon'. He says the plane was brought down via external electronic disruption of the controls...in other words, somebody messed with the electronics by way of laser or other means.<br><br>But, no, I don't remember Ruppert saying anything about Kennedy supposed to be on the flight. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Questions on plane crashes

Postby chiggerbit » Sun May 14, 2006 11:20 pm

The Wellstone family was going to a funeral, I thought. Here you go. Stop and think, they almost got two for the the price of one.<br><br>(Hihglight mine)<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,66707,00.htm">www.foxnews.com/story/0,2...707,00.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"...The King Air turboprop was made by <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Raytheon Corp</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. with Pratt & Whitney engines, according to the Federal Aviation Administration. The owner was listed as Beech Transportation Inc. of Eden Prairie, Minn., and the plane had been leased by Wellstone.<br><br>There were early reports that Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., might have been on the plane, since he was campaigning in Minnesota for Wellstone. That rumor was quickly dispelled, and Kennedy later appeared with Dayton to pay tribute to Wellstone..."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0210/25/bn.04.html">transcripts.cnn.com/TRANS...bn.04.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"...Jeff Greenfield, this is a potentially very sad moment. We don't know whether Senator Wellstone was on board, but there have been several other politicians over the years who have been campaigning and whose planes did go down. I remember Senator John Tower of Texas, you probably remember that, Governor Carnahan more recently in Missouri. John Heinz of Pennsylvania -- there's an unfortunate history as far as politicians campaigning and going down in planes. <br><br>JEFF GREENFIELD, CNN SENIOR ANALYST: In fact, just the other day, after leaving Senator Wellstone, I went to Missouri, where Senator Jean Carnahan is a senator because two years ago, almost about a week and two years ago, Governor Mel Carnahan her husband, who was in a very tough Senate race against Senator John Ashcroft, he and his son and a campaign aide were killed in a plane crash on a night of terrible weather, just before the last presidential debate. She agreed to stand in his stead, he got more votes, Mel Carnahan, than did Ashcroft, and the governor appointed Jean Carnahan who's now in a tight race. I was just thinking about that. <br><br>I should also point out that when I was in Minnesota on Tuesday, it was snowing. Probably one of the -- it's kind of early for most states, but Minnesota, as you know, is that kind of weather. The weather forecast for Duluth, Minnesota, where Senator Wellstone was heading -- was to head for a debate, was snow. I have no indication of whether that has anything to do with this plane crash. <br><br>But the other thing I wanted to mention apropos of Bill Schneider is that the attack on Senator Wellstone by his opponent has been based this year not on his liberalism but on his alleged lack of effectiveness, because there are people in Minnesota who find Wellstone attractive because he stands up for something even if they don't agree with him. So during this debate Norm Coleman was constantly pointing to Wellstone's lack of effectiveness and what are you doing for Minnesota business. And Senator Wellstone had come with a prop, a steering wheel made by a company that had honored him for what he did, and pulled it out with a big grin in the middle of the debate to say I'm very honored to have had this sign of my effectiveness. <br><br>There's a kind of puckish sense of humor that Wellstone has always carried into his political campaigns, like the famous ads he did in 1990 where he's talking at breakneck speed, saying I don't have any money, so I have to talk fast. A kind of playfulness that I think helped mitigate the liberalism for people who didn't agree -- who don't agree -- I keep doing this, and I'm sorry -- who don't agree with him politically. <br><br>But you're quite right. You know, Ted Kennedy, who I think was in Minnesota to campaign for Wellstone almost died in a plane crash in 1964. We tend to forget that. Hale Boggs, the former majority leader of the House, died in a plane crash campaigning in Alaska. In Missouri, Jerry Litten, many years ago, who'd won the nomination for governor was flying to his victory party in a private plane died in a plane crash. <br><br>BLITZER: All right. Jeff Greenfield, I just want to break in. Unfortunately, CNN has now confirmed the worst, what we had anticipated, that Senator Wellstone was indeed aboard that small plane and is now confirmed to have died. <br><br>Senator Paul Wellstone, by my account 58 years old, seeking re- election, traveling to northern Minnesota tonight for -- we were told for a debate that he's engaged with his Republican opponent, Norm Coleman. All of our worst fears, all of our worst suspicions now confirmed. Senator Paul Wellstone, the Democratic liberal senator from Minnesota has now died in this plane crash, together, we're told, with seven other people aboard that small King Air turbo prop plane, crashed shortly after taking off from a small town in Minnesota, northern Minnesota, called Eveleth, Minnesota. <br><br>We're also now being told that also among the fatalities aboard that small plane, one of his daughters, who was traveling with him. <br><br>Senator Paul Wellstone, well known, well liked, even if people disagreed with his generally liberal philosophy, his generally liberal traditions. Everyone who knew him, everyone always liked him. He radiated a room as he walked in with his bubbly personality, short, to the point, outspoken. Whenever I interviewed him, he was always excited, always passionate, always committed to his respective causes. <br><br>Judy Woodruff I think is traveling in New Hampshire today. She's joining us now live. You interviewed Senator Wellstone many times, Judy, tell us what's going through your mind. <br><br>JUDY WOODRUFF, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Oh, Wolf, I think all of us who know the senator, no matter whether we're reporters or whatever the political persuasion, all of us are in mourning for his family. As you said, Wolf, you just confirmed, one of his children was with him, his daughter. He and his wife had three children and a number of grandchildren. <br><br>You know, I just heard Jeff Greenfield talking about how, you know, there have been so many other politicians over the years who we've lost in plane crashes. The eerie parallel with what happened to Governor Mel Carnahan in Missouri just not even two years ago when he was killed in a crash with one of his sons. Of course, his widow went on to serve in the United States Senate, she's right now in a very tough race herself. <br><br>But Jeff mentioned, you know, Hale Boggs, who was the house Democratic leader several decades ago, John Heinz, who was then the senator from Pennsylvania. These political figures, in many instances, they're out there campaigning, they're traveling around, they're in these small planes. And whether it's bad weather or whatever, we've just seen too many cases like this. <br><br>I know originally there was some question about Senator Ted Kennedy, because he had been campaigning with Paul Wellstone. He was not on this plane with the senator, but the two had been campaigning together. We're told by Kennedy's staff that he's on a commercial flight back to Washington. But we know that Senator Kennedy must be devastated because of the own -- tragedies in his own family, but of course because he was close to Senator Wellstone himself...." <br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 5/14/06 9:45 pm<br></i>
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Re: Questions on plane crashes

Postby greencrow0 » Sun May 14, 2006 11:44 pm

But, be that as it may, I have become very suspicious of the JFK II plane crash.<br><br>It goes to the idea that the liars have been discovered lying in just about everything that has happened in the US in the past 75 years....so, why not that?<br><br>It just seems all too convenient that these two icons of liberalism, Diana and JFK II, were got 'out of the way' very conveniently just before the sheit hit the fan in the 2000's. They could have been quite vocal about the fascism that has risen up in England and the US.<br><br>JFK was living in Tribecca at the time of his death. If he had lived to 2001, he would have been right in the thick of the 9/11 hoax. I doubt whether he would have shut up about the obvious criminality of the government.<br><br>Diana would never have stood idly by while her country invaded a muslim nation...her dating several muslims, incidentally.<br><br>The killers are still going around, assassinating individuals who might make a difference...and will continue to do so until citizens rise up and kick the bums out.<br><br>GC<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Questions on plane crashes

Postby chiggerbit » Sun May 14, 2006 11:49 pm

BTW, anybody remember who John Heinz and Hale Boggs were, in relation to other people?<br><br>Also, the parallels between Wellstone's campaign and plane crash, and Mel Carnahan's campaign and plane crash in the previous election cycle, are very spooky. Both were running neck and neck with their opponents (John Ashcroft was Carnahan's opponent), then in the last several weeks of their campaigns each started to pull ahead of their opponents, then each the died in a plane crash. Just coincidence. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 5/14/06 10:00 pm<br></i>
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Re: Questions on plane crashes

Postby greencrow0 » Mon May 15, 2006 12:06 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Just coincidence<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>chiggerbit,<br><br>In the 9/11 truth research business, we call that a <br><br>'coinkydink'<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>GC <p></p><i></i>
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John Tower's Coinykdink, Witness to JFK False-Flag Hit?

Postby StarmanSkye » Mon May 15, 2006 1:11 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm">www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>'Interesting' theory here that JFK's assassination was an infiltrated/coopted false-flag assassination attempt (to frame Cuba, prelude to invasion) and that Senator John Tower was an inconvenient witness who just knew too much and so was eliminated-by-plane-'accident'. America's most-decorated 2nd World War Hero Audie Murphy, also killed in a mysterious plane accident, was privy to the same info Tower had and may also have been eliminated by plane-crash 'accident'.<br><br><br>--quote--<br>One of Murphy's friends was Bill Decker, the sheriff of Dallas County. Decker came to California regularly on business, and when he came to town, Gary (Wean) would arrange for Murphy, Decker, himself and his partner to dine at the Police Academy. About two weeks after the JFK assassination, in early December 1963, Decker was in town and they all had lunch together. The topic of conversation quickly turned to what arms experts across the nation were discussing: how could Oswald have made those shots with that poor shooting position and mediocre rifle to kill John Kennedy? Nobody at that table thought it was possible for Oswald to have made those shots. After they arrived at their conclusion, Decker told them that he knew Oswald had not fired the shots, and that a man in Dallas wanted to talk to somebody about it. Oswald died while being transferred to Decker’s custody. Decker knew somebody who could set the record straight, and wanted to talk to somebody not connected to Dallas or Washington. Murphy was interested, and the next week, Murphy, Gary and his partner were flying to Ruidoso, New Mexico to meet Decker and his friend. <br><br>They met at the airport and went to a diner to talk. The man who came with Decker was named John. According to John, Oswald was anything but a “lone nut.” He was a U.S. intelligence agent acting under the direction of E. Howard Hunt. Oswald had been recruited into military intelligence when he joined the Marines. His hanging out in an expensive Tokyo nightclub as a private, his learning Russian at the highly sensitive U-2 base in Japan, his defection to the Soviet Union and other oddities were all part of his intelligence career (which probably began even before his Marine days, when he was a cadet in 1955 in David Ferrie’s Civil Air Patrol unit. “Coincidentally,” Oswald began his “fascination” with communism at the same time). Oswald was developing "communist" credentials for his future activities in infiltrating communist organizations. It was a fairly normal American intelligence path.[4] <br><br>Oswald was inducted into CIA covert activities and came under Hunt’s direction. Hunt was a major player in mounting the failed Bay of Pigs invasion, and he, as with many others in the military and CIA, blamed Kennedy for the failure (Kennedy refused to call in openly American air support). Hunt dreamed up the crazy assassination attempts on Castro that the United States tried. His mission in life was eliminating Castro. Oswald came into his control, and was thrown into the cauldron of the Cuban exile communities in Miami and New Orleans. Oswald did not initially know what his mission would be. <br><br>Hunt was paranoid about Oswald's Russian wife, thinking that she might be a Russian spy, so Oswald could tell her nothing about his activities. Oswald’s joining Fair Play for Cuba and his staged “murder attempt” on General Walker were all part of giving Oswald “credentials” that would make his upcoming performance more believable. Hunt had concocted the most bizarre assassination intrigue of all time. Oswald was going to participate in a fake assassination attempt on John Kennedy, and frame Castro for it. Oswald’s apparent visit to the Cuban Embassy in Mexico City was part of laying an elaborate trail to Cuba. Hunt believed that if Castro could be implicated in an assassination attempt on JFK, the American people could be riled up into supporting an outright invasion of Cuba. <br><br>JFK was not aware of the fake assassination plan, but high-ranking officials in the government and his administration were. Military intelligence, the FBI and the CIA were all involved. Oswald was initially leery of Hunt’s plan, but with assurances and after seeing the high-level people involved, he went along with it. Oswald was to fire his rifle into the air, then go into hiding, and the false trail to Cuba was laid. He could come home to a hero’s welcome and live a normal life after America had finished mopping up Cuba. <br><br>But something went horribly wrong. The fake assassination turned into a real one. Somebody had infiltrated the operation, interposed the mission and killed JFK. The real assassins tried killing Oswald after JFK was killed, but policeman Tippit was in the wrong place at the wrong time and was killed. Oswald escaped, to be captured alive. John said that he knew that Oswald would not have shot a policeman under any circumstances. <br><br>At the end of his mind-blowing tale, John handed over a thick manila envelope, sealed with wax with a thumbprint on it, that contained the documents John said would prove his story. <br><br>Murphy, Gary and his partner went back to California. They knew that the situation was too big and dangerous for them to pursue. John said that if he went public with his story, he would quickly disappear, never to be heard from again. A few days after that meeting, Decker called Murphy. As John was telling his story, the CIA and intelligence community was in shock. They did not know what to do, paralyzed with fear. As they recovered from their shock, they saw themselves facing the firing squad if their involvement in the assassination intrigue became known. The intelligence community decided they would do everything they could to cover their tracks, invoking “national security.” Decker told Murphy that John had given him the envelope of documents in a moment of panic, and that if Murphy did not give the envelope back, he would be “destroyed.” Murphy did some fast thinking and told Decker that they had torn the envelope into pieces and threw them out of the airplane as they were flying back to California. <br><br>That is what Gary says he witnessed, and I believe him. In the first edition of his book, Gary hid John's identity. Because John was dead when Gary published the second edition of his book in 1996, Gary revealed that “John” was John Tower, the Senator from Texas and George Bush’s little buddy who he nominated to be the Secretary of Defense. <br><br>Gary wrote his book in the early 1970s. New evidence keeps coming to light regarding the JFK assassination. Because of what Gary saw, I knew that Oswald was not a lone nut. The center of gravity of my research into the JFK assassination has been to see how it correlated with Gary's testimony. Every piece of credible evidence I have seen supports Gary’s story, and none contradicts it. Particularly impressive has been the recent revelations of Operation Northwoods, where the U.S. government was going to stage terrorist acts in America to manipulate Americans into supporting an invasion of Cuba. Gary’s story touches upon many facets of the JFK assassination evidence, including Oswald's military intelligence days, his association with the Cuban exiles, the “Texas Connection,” the “Republican Connection,” the oilman connection, the George Bush connection, the CIA connection, the FBI connection and others. Up until now (2002), Gary's testimony has been ignored by virtually everybody involved in investigating the JFK assassination. Gary is the only surviving member of that meeting with John Tower. Tower and Murphy both died in private plane “accidents” that may not have been accidental. <br><br>Gary's career ended in Ventura County when he stumbled into corruption that boggles the mind. Gary names names, and I knew some of the people he named in his book, and knew of many of the events. I independently believed his version of some events before I met him. When he encountered the corruption in Ventura, which ended his career, he fought back and survived a murder attempt himself. Those who run Ventura County are judges on the Superior Court, real estate developers, politicians and the like. According to Gary, political murder was common in Ventura County, where judges, lawyers and other people who got in the way or were expendable were murdered, sometimes by private plane “accidents,” mysterious drownings, etc. <br><br>Hollywood has made many movies and TV shows about the police and crime in Los Angeles, especially during the 1930s, 1940s and '50s, such as LA Confidential and Chinatown. Gary worked out of the downtown and Hollywood precincts during his days as an LAPD cop. Later in his career, he became an investigator for the LA District Attorney's Office. In the early days of Gary’s career, he was assigned to keep watch on Mickey Cohen, who ran LA’s organized crime operations. Cohen, Bugsy Siegel and Meyer Lansky were Jewish gangsters. Siegel “built” Las Vegas. Cohen ran the LA crime scene for many years. In typical gangster style, Cohen’s hangouts were often boxing arenas, racetracks, restaurants, etc. Gary followed Cohen around as part of his job. One member of Cohen’s entourage, who Gary saw regularly, was an aspiring lawyer who sat on the Ninth District Federal Court for many years. I saw his name in the news a few years ago, and he is still a judge, at nearly 80 years of age in 2002. The man is a gangster, and a federal judge, and the media and establishment has been lavishing praise on him lately, with awards and hagiographic articles. <br><br>The connection between Frank Sinatra and organized crime is one of many in the entertainment field (or the CIA, or George Bush, or Joe Kennedy, or entertainment and law enforcement, such as Elvis Presley and the FBI, or the FBI and organized crime). Along with good food and pretty women, first-class entertainment is another gangster perk. Gangsters keep entertainers as their “pets” when they can. The Las Vegas connection and entertainment is a case in point. Cohen was deeply involved in the Hollywood scene. <br><br>One of Cohen’s specialties was blackmailing celebrities, such as obtaining compromising photographs of them to use as leverage. The Mafia had the goods on FBI director J. Edgar Hoover, a transvestite. Because of their blackmail, Hoover publicly denied organized crime’s existence, and the FBI rarely tried prosecuting them. When Robert Kennedy prosecuted organized crime when he was Attorney General, he was breaking the unwritten rules. <br><br>...<br>What is obvious when researching the JFK assassination is that at least some theorists and investigators are provocateurs. A classic CIA disinformation ploy is to flood a certain subject with information, some of it true, and some or most of it fabrication. If anybody tries investigating the information, they will find so much false information that it taints whatever might be true. There are an incredible number of JFK assassination theories. One is that Kennedy was hit accidentally by a Secret Service man riding in the car behind him, whose gun accidentally discharged when Kennedy was under fire, giving him his fatal headshot. There is a bizarre theory that there was more than one gunman, but they coincidentally tried to kill Kennedy at the same instant (the Washington Post cooked that one up). That one invokes odds of trillions-to-one. There are even stranger theories than those. Prominent people, such as mainstream journalists, have concocted some of them. They were probably creating their surreal theories under the influence of the CIA or other spook organization. The CIA has operatives in virtually every major media organization. The circus atmosphere of strange theories has served to discredit all assassination theories besides the official “lone nut” one, and sincere researchers are nearly defeated before they begin. <br><br>Again, most importantly, what has hurt the independent assassination researchers the most has probably been the behavior of the researchers themselves. Those who independently spend years of their lives investigating the assassination have a trust fund or other source of passive income, are doing it in their spare time, or try to sell the results of their labors. Not too many people have the trust fund option. Also, those who are independently wealthy or have inherited wealth almost always obtained it through the workings of the system, and consequently are rarely going to have the inclination to challenge that system. I have never received a dime of compensation for this work, and have given up hundreds of thousands of dollars of lost income to pursue it, and not many people can do that. <br><br>If people put their JFK research out there with their name on it, the provocateurs and others generally take the tactic of discrediting them, and they are instead put into the position of defending themselves, and the evidence they have produced is not considered. It is a classic misdirection tactic. That phenomenon is not limited to investigating conspiracies. My critics do not want to discuss the merits of my propositions, such as whether we are engaging in genocide in Iraq to control Middle East oil, or that we are putting poison in our water supply and calling it medicine. Instead, they attack me for my style, call me names, and otherwise totally avoid the substance of my work. <br><br>I have looked into many areas like the JFK assassination, looking at the primary evidence for myself. I also rely on the work of historians and investigators whose work I have come to respect, through long investigation of their work, such as Noam Chomsky, Edward Herman, David Stannard, Carl Sauer and Rodney Stich, to name a few. <br><br>The fact that provocateurs have stirred up plenty of trouble, that independent JFK researchers have not always been pillars of virtue, that they often attack each other, that they become too attached to their theories, should not cloud the question of whether JFK was murdered by a conspiracy. Proving a researcher’s theory wrong does not mean that JFK was not murdered by a conspiracy. The evidence can speak for itself, in those backyard photos. <br><br>The JFK assassination brings up extremely uncomfortable issues for Americans. If JFK was killed by a backfired covert operation (as Gary’s story says), and the government acted to cover it up, what kind of government does America really have? Would it really be much more legitimate than ancient Rome’s? I have found that nearly everybody who defends the lone gunman theory of the JFK assassination is also of a white bread political persuasion, with ideas that rarely stray from what officialdom says is so. Defending the lone gunman theory appears in large measure to be an attempt to defend the legitimacy of the U.S. government. Why? I think the cognitive dissonance dynamic explains much of it. <br><br>If Gary’s story is true, a lot more than JFK’s death was initiated by that backfired plot to frame Castro. The successful cover-up of JFK’s murder appeared to embolden the intelligence community. The rash of assassinations and attempts after JFK, leading clear to the attempt on Ronald Reagan, all have suspicious connections to the U.S. intelligence community, with a “lone nut” scapegoat served up each time. Hunt eventually got caught with his hand in the cookie jar with the Watergate burglary, which may have far more sinister connotations than just some bumbling idiots trying to derail the Democratic challengers to Nixon. <br><br>...<br>Why did the Iranians release the hostages the day Reagan was inaugurated? The Iran-Contra scandal gave plenty of evidence why, as the United States was shipping arms to our "enemy," Iran. The Iranian hostage crisis was an albatross around Jimmy Carter's neck that helped derail his reelection bid. There is substantial evidence pointing to a deal being made between Ronald Reagan's election campaign team and the Iranian government, to hold onto the hostages until after the presidential election. It looks as if George Bush may have helped negotiate the deal.[42] The federal government "investigated" and dismissed the October Surprise allegation. They did not really put the allegations to bed, just as the Warren Commission did not regarding JFK's death. <br><br>America's political milieu around 1980-1981 is one of American history’s scariest periods. Numerous conspiracy theories swirl around Ronald Reagan's choice of George Bush as his running mate. Bush has a long pedigree in the Eastern Oligarchy and covert activities. Bush ran the CIA and was a member of David Rockefeller's Trilateral Commission, as were many members of the federal government. Bush has apparently admitted that David Rockefeller was his mentor.[43] Rumors abound that Reagan chose Bush because of Rockefeller's influence. <br><br>A little-known member of David Rockefeller's Trilateral Commission also became president, rising from obscurity to win the 1976 presidential election: Jimmy Carter. David's brother Nelson was vice president while two assassination attempts were made on Gerald Ford, bringing Nelson within a bullet of being the second president who was never on a ballot, and Ford was the first.<br><br>While Bush was apparently in Paris in October 1980, negotiating the hostage release with Iran, it looks like the wheels were moving to put some bona fide gangsters in charge of the federal government. Immediately after Reagan was elected, one man was coming out of a five-year hibernation, after barely escaping deportation proceedings that were only forestalled because Richard Nixon was run out of office. Ironically, both Nixon and Reagan ran on the law-and-order platform and probably had the two most lawless administrations in American history. John Lennon was coming out of seclusion after five years. Not only was he in the studio making his first album in five years, Double Fantasy, he was also coming out of his political hibernation. In light of what happened after Reagan's inauguration, Lennon was on a short list of those who could have mobilized average Americans against what Reagan's boys were about to do to Central America and other nations. Lennon won Nixon's hatred with his high-profile Vietnam protests, which was why they tried to deport him. <br><br>A controversial situation got CIA-man Bush on the ticket, a man who may have helped engineer October Surprise. A few weeks after Reagan was inaugurated, the State Department floated a white paper on February 23, 1981. The white paper was apparently a series of forged documents that were supposed to help justify the reign of terror that the Reagan administration was about to wage in El Salvador, terrorizing the population and killing 75,000 civilians while using about $6 billion in U.S. taxpayer money.[44] <br><br>Similar to the "assassins" of JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King, Jr. and John Lennon, those who attempted to assassinate George Wallace, Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan were "lone nuts." It is amazing that those "lone nuts" all pulled their triggers at critical or intriguing political moments in American history. Oswald "killed" JFK soon after JFK declared that he planned to pull American troops out of Vietnam. JFK's executive order to pull the troops out of Vietnam was reversed before he was buried. Sirhan B. Sirhan "killed" RFK the night he won the California democratic primary in 1968, vaulting into the front-runner position for the presidency. <br><br>George Wallace came out of nowhere in 1968, in the first substantial third party threat in presidential politics since Teddy Roosevelt's Bull Moose party, splitting the democratic vote enough (especially with RFK gone) to usher repeated political loser Richard Nixon into the White House. Wallace won several southern states that were traditional democratic shoe-ins in presidential elections. Wallace ran again in 1972, and it looked as if he might gain enough support to where no candidate would win enough Electoral College votes to be elected president, where somebody like George McGovern might sneak into the White House. Right then, a "lone nut" came out of the woodwork and gunned Wallace down, taking him out of the running.[45]<br><br>We all know about the Watergate break-in. Or do we? What was that all about, a few bumbling idiots working on Nixon's behalf? One participant was E. Howard Hunt, a man undoubtedly (at least to me) involved in the events that led to JFK's assassination. Harrison Livingstone is one of many who feels that the Watergate burglary was far from relatively innocent intrigue regarding Nixon's smear techniques, but an attempt to cover up the political murders that accompanied Nixon's rise to power.[46] Then Nixon’s own people brought him down. <br><br>When Nixon and Spiro Agnew were taken out one at a time, they were replaced with "Magic Bullet" Gerald Ford and Nelson Rockefeller.[47] Nelson Rockefeller was oligarchy personified. Soon after Ford took office, two "lone nuts" tried taking him out, nearly making Nelson Rockefeller the first president who was not on any ballot or picked by an elected president. Maybe it was merely a series of extraordinary coincidences. <br><br>Reagan was elected with the help of the Iranian hostage albatross that Carter wore around his neck, and a month later John Lennon was gunned down by another "lone nut." Then Reagan was inaugurated, with the Iranians releasing the hostages on the same day, followed a few weeks later by the fabricated white paper that helped set the stage for a ten-year reign of terror in Central America. John Lennon was eminently qualified to lead the American people in protesting the crucifixion of Central America. Just when Reagan was able to find the White House bathroom on his own, he was gunned down by another "lone nut." That man was "coincidentally" a friend of George Bush's family. <br><br>A few months later, Omar Torrijos, the leader of Panama, died in a mysterious plane crash. It was similar to the “plane crashes” of John Tower and Audie Murphy, where the plane may have exploded in mid-air, as though a bomb went off in it. The CIA had earlier plotted to assassinate Torrijos, and it appears as if they may have finally succeeded.[48] That set the stage for the reign of Manuel Noriega. George Bush later led America in invading Panama to take out Noriega, supposedly for crimes Noriega committed while he was working for the CIA, which Bush once ran.[49] A few months before Torrijos’ untimely demise, the helicopter of Ecuadorian president Jaime Roldós exploded in mid-air. Self-admitted economic hit man John Perkins knew both men, and is sure the CIA assassinated them both. The deaths of Mel Carnahan and Paul Wellstone in 2000 and 2002 were domestic “plane crashes” that happened at opportune moments for the Republicans, as those deaths happened just before election day, and their candidates, who previously did not have a prayer, became shoo-ins on election day, except that Carnahan’s opponent, John Ashcroft, lost to a dead man, as the people elected Carnahan’s widow instead. Gary Wean saw that kind of “convenient” death of the incumbent in his travails in Ventura County, where the unknown challenger ran unopposed as the “untimely” death happened so close to election day. <br><br>After the assassination attempt, Reagan was a near vegetable for the next eight years of his presidency. The Alzheimer's disease he has today probably began its progress with the assassination attempt, if not earlier. <br><br>Alexander Cockburn related a revelation from Washington Post reporter Lou Cannon's The Role of a Lifetime. Four months after the assassination attempt, Cannon interviewed Reagan. In the Washington Post on July 23rd, 1981, he reported an interview with a tired but alert president, coming back from an international summit, talking about how successful it was. <br><br>Ten years later, in The Role of a Lifetime, Cannon had something very different to report. Cannon wrote, <br> <br><br>"What was surprising to me was Reagan's condition. He was exhausted to the point of incoherence throughout much of the interview and could not remember the substance of any subject that had been discussed apart from Mitterrand's expression of anticommunism. I had not seen Reagan at such close range since the assassination attempt nearly four months earlier, and was shocked at his condition…Reagan simply was unable to recall the content of the talks in which he just participated…The interview concluded…at a signal from Deaver, who did not seem to find the president's condition unusual." <br> <br><br>Cockburn wrote, <br><br>"At the time of the shooting, the press was full of phrases like 'bouncing back,' 'iron constitution,' and other terms indicating that Reagan had emerged from the ordeal in good shape. In fact Reagan very nearly died on the operating table and was a dotard afterwards. He never fully recovered. <br><br>"Conclusion: Unless a president is actually dead, the White House press corps can be relied upon to present him as both sentient and sapient, no matter how decrepit his physical and mental condition."[5<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <br><br>There are stories and film footage of President Reagan falling asleep at conferences and other embarrassing situations. When Reagan testified after he stepped down from the presidency about the Iran-Contra scandal, and said, "I can't remember" far more than one hundred times during his two days of testimony, he may have been telling the truth. His acting career came in handy, though, and he generally remembered his lines and read his cue cards for the rest of his presidency.<br><br>All those "coincidental" assassinations and assassination attempts have plenty surrounding them that make people wonder. For instance, every single one of those "lone nuts" was connected in some way to U.S. intelligence operations. The evidence on Oswald is overwhelming. Mark David Chapman, Lennon's assassin, worked for a CIA front organization. Sirhan had strange and shadowy connections to CIA-related mind control operations, and Sirhan acted like a Manchurian Candidate. See the movie of that name starring Frank Sinatra, which like The China Syndrome was a little too prescient, and was pulled from circulation and not shown for many years in America after the JFK assassination.<br><br>E. Howard Hunt was a novelist, among his many talents, and his writing colleague Gore Vidal all but accused Hunt of writing the "diary" of the lone nut Arthur Bremer, the man who shot George Wallace. Vidal thought that Bremer's diary was a little too writerly, something Vidal thought Hunt was just the man to write, doing his part in fabricating another "lone nut."[51] <br><br>Besides working for a CIA front organization, there are strange events surrounding Mark David Chapman’s shooting of Lennon. Chapman originally purchased a plane ticket to Chicago, but ended up in New York. There were days of unaccounted time. When Chapman signed Lennon's name in Hawaii when he quit his job, it was odd. There is little evidence that Chapman was particularly interested in Lennon from a fan's point of view. Chapman was a big fan of Todd Rundgren, but Chapman was not even as big a Lennon fan as I am. What was going on in his head? Were his handlers preparing him for the deed in Chicago? Immediately after he gunned Lennon down, he sat down on the curb, reached into his pocket, pulled out The Catcher in the Rye and began reading it, a kind of Manchurian Candidate behavior one encounters if they begin looking into MK-ULTRA and related programs. Chapman has not acted crazy while he has been in prison.[52] <br><br>When Ronald Reagan was shot, even though his limousine left the scene five minutes before James Brady's did, it arrived at the hospital fifteen minutes after Brady's did. What happened in those twenty missing minutes? Was Reagan told how it was going to be, while he lay there in agony? Reagan admitted that he did not feel anything until the Secret service agent jumped on top of him in the limousine. It appears that a strange bullet entered Reagan’s ribs. The projectile created a small, nearly bloodless wound, and the doctors almost did not find the dime-shaped fléchette. More strangeness was a "lone nut" that was a long-time friend of the Bush family. Bush and Hinckley's dad went way back to the good old Texas oil days. The day of the assassination attempt, Hinckley's older brother had a dinner date with George's son Neil. It's a small world.[53] <br><br>In most of those assassinations and attempts, there was evidence of more bullets flying than the assassin's gun actually fired. The "lone nut" was usually immediately apprehended, and all other suspects were immediately released. "No conspiracy" was announced within hours of each shooting, even in the case of Martin Luther King, when there was no suspect immediately after his shooting.[54]<br><br>Was political assassination the standard policy by those who really ran America from 1963 to 1981, serving up a "lone nut" scapegoat each time? There were many, many other strange and/or untimely deaths of high-ranking CIA, FBI and political folks, such as J. Edgar Hoover, William Sullivan, William Casey, John Tower, Hale Boggs, William Colby and others. In the 1970s, there apparently was a “spook war” taking place, not much different than a Mafia gang war, except that politicians and bureaucrats were being murdered. As with the rash of strange, violent and untimely deaths surrounding the JFK assassination, political murder while killing more people to tie up the loose ends may be standard practice in America. <br><br>There may not have been even one "lone nut" in American presidential assassination history, going clear back to Lincoln. Lincoln's is the only undeniable conspiracy (except the House Select Committee on Assassinations' lame position on JFK's death), as the conspirators tried killing a number of people on the same night. There are interesting theories regarding how far that conspiracy may have reached. The standard right wing theory is that the European bankers bumped off Lincoln because he cut out the central banks and printed "greenbacks," and JFK was initiating a similar program soon before he died.[55] <br><br>--unquote--<br><br>More info here, a lot I've not seen before, than you can shake a stick at. The comment about the successful cover-up of the true conspirators emboldening the CIA/FBI as never before sure rings true. But while the author is pretty spot on IMO about the evidence pointing to 911 as an inside job, he also goes WAAAY into the deep-end with supporting the 'Apollo Moon Landings were a hoax' disinfo-con (I know some folks are impassioned about this topic -- all I can say is, I've looked at it hard and long and believe the Apollo program did what they claimed).<br><br>WAS american politics run-by-assassination from '63-81? Is political assassination STILL a routine technique for intimidation, threats, getting rid of politicans who can't be managed, and otherwise influencing policy? I think the evidence suggests it.<br>Starman<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: John Tower's Coinykdink, Witness to JFK False-Flag Hit?

Postby FourthBase » Mon May 15, 2006 2:03 am

Sounds like a plausible story, but I'm unnerved by the anti-Israel bent. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: John Tower's Coinykdink, Witness to JFK False-Flag Hit?

Postby greencrow0 » Mon May 15, 2006 2:39 am

Interesting stuff, starman<br><br>the preponderance of 'lone nut' assassinations is a bit onerous for one country to bear.<br><br>More than likely there was a 'spook war' going on with the two sides offing their charges.<br><br>culminating recently in the Pentagon 'subsuming' the CIA.<br><br>given what you say, we can expect an escalation of this kind of activity due to retaliation by the 'cia'.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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The cia fights back?

Postby Trifecta » Mon May 15, 2006 3:47 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12774274/site/newsweek/">www.msnbc.msn.com/id/1277.../newsweek/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"In the margins of the op-ed, Cheney jotted out a series of questions that seemed to challenge many of Wilson's assertions as well as the legitimacy of his CIA-sponsored trip to Africa: "Have they done this sort of thing before? Send an Amb. [sic] to answer a question? Do we ordinarily send people out pro bono to work for us? Or did his wife send him on a junket?"<br><br>It is extremely rare, if not unprecedented, for Cheney's own notes to be made public. The notes—apparently obtained as a result of a grand jury subpoena—would appear to make Cheney an even more central witness than had been previously thought in the criminal probe. Fitzgerald's prosecution has created continued problems for the White House. Karl Rove, the President Bush's chief political adviser, recently made his fifth grand jury appearance in the case and remains under scrutiny while Fitzgerald weighs whether to file criminal charges against him. For now, Libby is the only figure charged in the case."<br> <p></p><i></i>
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I read that Sen. Heinz and Sen. Towers died a week apart in

Postby NavnDansk » Mon May 15, 2006 4:37 am

commercial (large) plane crashes. During the Kerry campaign, the MSM mentioned Heinz' death in a plane crash but not Towers. There are only 100 Senators at any one time and for 2 of them to die a week apart seems suspicious. After I read this on a website, tried looking to see if there was any online commentary about this "coincidence" but could not find any.<br><br>The website mentioned as motive that GHW Bush had used them in drug trafficking and was paranoid that they might reveal his involvement. Don't know if there was an investigation into drug trafficking at that time.<br><br>I think the timing and other things about JFK, jr's plane crash is very suspicious and Diane's death was an assassination. I have read that all of the traffick cameras from the hotel to the tunnel went on the blink at a very suspicious time. And in watching the ambulance on TV it was agonizing to see it go slowly for a few feet then stop repeatedly and the explanation that this is how they did it in France, stabilize the patient in the ambulance rather than rushing them to an ER seemed very suspicious. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I read that Sen. Heinz and Sen. Towers died a week apart

Postby dbeach » Mon May 15, 2006 6:46 pm

5/13/06 almost another dead Kennedy<br><br>13 is another trigger number for satanic rituals ect..as is 11 and 7..<br><br>BTW Teddy K almost died in plane crash in Holyoke MA in 1970s<br><br>GHW Bush murdered JFK and with clintons <br>murdered JFK jr.<br>Thats my opinion..I know this much..living near the ocean .. the MM reported there was big fog that evening of the crash and he could not navigate..I know this much as a close follower of the summer wheather . There was NO FOG on that night.NONE . I was on vacation that week and watched the news daily for ocean reports.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.john-f-kennedy-jr.com/">www.john-f-kennedy-jr.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>JFK jr<br><br>"Born: November 25, 1960<br>Assassinated: July 16, 1999<br><br><br>A Third Party President<br>And The Electoral College<br><br>The Electoral College Would Have<br>Finally Been Exposed For What It Is<br>By The Only Person In America<br>Who Could Have Won The Popular Vote<br>For President Of The United States<br>While Running On A Third Party Ticket<br><br>It has now been more then two years since the untimely death of the only person who could have run on a Third Party ticket for the Presidency of the United States, and won the popular vote.<br><br>If he had decided for whatever reasons to run in the 2000 presidential race against Gore and Bush, every woman, minority and youth would have come out and voted like never before, just for him. The voter turnout would have been at least 20% higher then the measly 51% of Americans who did turn out to vote for President in 2000. He probably would have received around 35% of the vote. Both Gore and Bush would have received about 30% each and the remaining 5% would have gone to Ralph Nader and the other third parties candidates.<br><br><br><br>By the way, there has only been one Third Party President in the history of the United States. In 1860 Abraham Lincoln won with a Party that was only 8 years old, the Republican Party. He also was the only President elected while receiving less than 40% of the popular vote -- he recieved 39.82%.<br><br>Now knowing these facts, you then of course have to ask yourself -- "Who had the most to gain in the untimely death of the only person in America who could have run on a Third Party ticket and won the popular vote for President?""<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I read that Sen. Heinz and Sen. Towers died a week apart

Postby dbeach » Tue May 16, 2006 4:16 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.kennedy-web.com/tree.htm">www.kennedy-web.com/tree.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Kennedy plane deaths and near misses<br><br>Joe jr 8/12/44<br><br>Kathleen Kennedy 5/13/48<br><br>JFK jr 7/16/99<br><br>Teddy Kennedy 6/19/64 near death plane crash<br><br>Teddy Kennedy 5/13/06 plane hit by lightning<br><br>58 yrs after death of his sister in France..Teddy K. almost has another tragedy <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Questions on plane crashes

Postby chump » Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:27 pm

Here's a wittle wabbit hole I fell into for awhile. Wast night, I happened upon a movie, To Hell and Back, starring my olde hero - Audie Murphy, who was killed in a plane crash back in 1971; when I vaguely recalled a flash from the past that was posted above.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#introduction
Investigating Possible Conspiracies and Cover-ups – JFK, The Moon Landings, etc.
By Wade Frazier

Introduction

I was born in 1958, and had a fairly typical middle class suburban American childhood (fan of Gilligan's Island and Star Trek). I was largely raised in Ventura, California; my mother ran the household while my father worked to support the family. His entire career was spent working for the federal government, and all but one year was spent working for the Department of Defense. The nearby military bases employed most of the area’s professionals, so some of my friends’ fathers (as well as several of my father’s friends) also worked for the military. If anything, the political outlook I was raised with was fairly Cold War, but not too pronounced. I was taught that the Soviets were the bad guys, and my family generally supported politicians from the Democratic Party. My father was rather outraged when Nixon won the presidency in 1968, and I was saddened when Reagan beat Carter in 1980. My political outlook was a fairly mainstream one, which means that I was ignorant. I read the newspaper virtually everyday, from age 10 to 27, thinking that I was getting the “news.” I had some spiritual training that came in handy later on, but I was like most people of my age, assimilating my indoctrination. I kept my eyes open to see how closely reality matched my ideals, because I needed to honestly believe in my ideals.

Upon graduating from college, I had a rather rude awakening, and indoctrination and ideals brutally collided with reality. I eventually realized that my profession was virtually worthless, although that full realization was not clear for several years. Then I met Dennis Lee, and was able to live my dreams of trying to bring alternative energy to the world. After meeting Dennis, I had a very rude awakening. That was when my political education began in earnest. Our efforts at developing alternative energy were definitely the targets of conspiracies. Policemen and others committed felonies while pursuing us, leading to the death of one woman. We received offers to buy us out, which culminated in an offer probably in excess of $1 billion, to bribe us to stop pursuing alternative energy. When Dennis rejected the offer made by “European interests,” given through a CIA man, a month later Dennis was thrown into jail with a million dollar bail, on fabricated charges...

... Gary Wean and the JFK Assassination

In early 1989, it appeared as if Dennis had no chance of living to see this side of the bars again. There were a handful of people trying to save him from life in prison, and probably being murdered while he was in there. Although our effort was the target of a wide-ranging international conspiracy, Ventura County was also one of the United States’ most corrupt counties, regularly ranking in the top ten most corrupt law enforcement jurisdictions (it has even been ranked number one). Dennis was far from alone in being raped by Ventura County’s legal system.

In Ventura County, one person in particular was standing up to the corruption. Gary Wean was a sailor in World War II and became an LAPD policeman in 1946. Gary had the kind of career that they make movies about. He moved back and forth between Ventura County and Los Angeles a couple of times in the 1950s and 1960s. While in Los Angeles, Gary was at times a motorcycle cop directing traffic, while at others he was a detective. He worked out of the downtown and Hollywood precincts. Dealing with the escapades of politicians, celebrities and gangsters was simply part of his job.

In 1947, he was pursuing an armed robber through the streets of Los Angeles on a high-speed chase. The suspect crashed his car as it barreled along at ninety miles an hour through LA’s streets. He tried escaping on foot, and Gary cornered him in the dark. The suspect begged for his life. As Gary approached, the man stuck his pistol (which had already killed somebody during the robbery) into Gary’s abdomen and fired. He fired a second shot that hit Gary in his hand. Gary then emptied his pistol into the man, while his partner also fired, killing the robber instantly. Gary’s partner rushed him to the hospital. Although Gary’s abdomen was in great pain, he did not want to unbuckle his Sam Brown belt (a wide leather belt which held his firearm and other police equipment) as they rushed to the hospital, because he thought it might be all that was holding him together. When Gary finally took off his belt, his partner saw that the bullet hit the belt and did not penetrate Gary’s skin.[3] That was a day in the life of an LAPD cop. Below are images from that day.

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Gary relates many amazing incidents in his book There's a Fish in the Courthouse. Gary was from the old school: he believed in the ideal of law enforcement, and that through a properly functioning legal system there could be a more just society.

When I met Gary in early 1989, he gave me the best advice I could get: no organization in America would help Dennis, either governmental or private. Dennis’ experience was not that unusual. U.S. judicial gangsterism was normal, but nearly always covered up or misrepresented by the media, as they are an integral part of the system. Gary's advice kept me from wasting my time seeking somebody in the United States government to help. Gary’s insight helped lead to Dennis’ miraculous release from jail. In my hour of need, Gary was generous with his time, sincere, and helpful.

The first edition of There's a Fish in the Courthouse was published in 1987, and tells of an incredible meeting that Gary attended in late 1963. One of Gary's friends was Audie Murphy, America's most decorated war hero who became a Hollywood movie star. During World War II, Murphy took on hundreds of German soldiers and six tanks single-handedly near Holtzwihr France, while he was firing a machine gun from atop a burning vehicle filled with explosives. It stands as one of the most heroic feats from any war. Murphy suffered from “shell shock” (now called Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome) for the rest of his life.

One of Murphy's friends was Bill Decker, the sheriff of Dallas County. Decker came to California regularly on business, and when he came to town, Gary would arrange for Murphy, Decker, himself and his partner to dine at the Police Academy. About two weeks after the JFK assassination, in early December 1963, Decker was in town and they all had lunch together. The topic of conversation quickly turned to what arms experts across the nation were discussing: how could Oswald have made those shots with that poor shooting position and mediocre rifle to kill John Kennedy? Nobody at that table thought it was possible for Oswald to have made those shots. After they arrived at their conclusion, Decker told them that he knew Oswald had not fired the shots, and that a man in Dallas wanted to talk to somebody about it. Oswald died while being transferred to Decker’s custody. Decker knew somebody who could set the record straight, and wanted to talk to somebody not connected to Dallas or Washington. Murphy was interested, and the next week, Murphy, Gary and his partner were flying to Ruidoso, New Mexico to meet Decker and his friend.

They met at the airport and went to a diner to talk. The man who came with Decker was named John. According to John, Oswald was anything but a “lone nut.” He was a U.S. intelligence agent acting under the direction of E. Howard Hunt. Oswald had been recruited into military intelligence when he joined the Marines. His hanging out in an expensive Tokyo nightclub as a private, his learning Russian at the highly sensitive U-2 base in Japan, his defection to the Soviet Union and other oddities were all part of his intelligence career (which probably began even before his Marine days, when he was a cadet in 1955 in David Ferrie’s Civil Air Patrol unit. “Coincidentally,” Oswald began his “fascination” with communism at the same time). Oswald was developing "communist" credentials for his future activities in infiltrating communist organizations. It was a fairly normal American intelligence path.[4]

Oswald was inducted into CIA covert activities and came under Hunt’s direction. Hunt was a major player in mounting the failed Bay of Pigs invasion, and he, as with many others in the military and CIA, blamed Kennedy for the failure (Kennedy refused to call in openly American air support). Hunt dreamed up the crazy assassination attempts on Castro that the United States tried. His mission in life was eliminating Castro. Oswald came into his control, and was thrown into the cauldron of the Cuban exile communities in Miami and New Orleans. Oswald did not initially know what his mission would be.

Hunt was paranoid about Oswald's Russian wife, thinking that she might be a Russian spy, so Oswald could tell her nothing about his activities. Oswald’s joining Fair Play for Cuba and his staged “murder attempt” on General Walker were all part of giving Oswald “credentials” that would make his upcoming performance more believable. Hunt had concocted the most bizarre assassination intrigue of all time. Oswald was going to participate in a fake assassination attempt on John Kennedy, and frame Castro for it. Oswald’s apparent visit to the Cuban Embassy in Mexico City was part of laying an elaborate trail to Cuba. Hunt believed that if Castro could be implicated in an assassination attempt on JFK, the American people could be riled up into supporting an outright invasion of Cuba.

JFK was not aware of the fake assassination plan, but high-ranking officials in the government and his administration were. Military intelligence, the FBI and the CIA were all involved. Oswald was initially leery of Hunt’s plan, but with assurances and after seeing the high-level people involved, he went along with it. Oswald was to fire his rifle into the air, then go into hiding, and the false trail to Cuba was laid. He could come home to a hero’s welcome and live a normal life after America had finished mopping up Cuba.

But something went horribly wrong. The fake assassination turned into a real one. Somebody had infiltrated the operation, interposed the mission and killed JFK. The real assassins tried killing Oswald after JFK was killed, but policeman Tippit was in the wrong place at the wrong time and was killed. Oswald escaped, to be captured alive. John said that he knew that Oswald would not have shot a policeman under any circumstances.

At the end of his mind-blowing tale, John handed over a thick manila envelope, sealed with wax with a thumbprint on it, that contained the documents John said would prove his story.

Murphy, Gary and his partner went back to California. They knew that the situation was too big and dangerous for them to pursue. John said that if he went public with his story, he would quickly disappear, never to be heard from again. A few days after that meeting, Decker called Murphy. As John was telling his story, the CIA and intelligence community was in shock. They did not know what to do, paralyzed with fear. As they recovered from their shock, they saw themselves facing the firing squad if their involvement in the assassination intrigue became known. The intelligence community decided they would do everything they could to cover their tracks, invoking “national security.” Decker told Murphy that John had given him the envelope of documents in a moment of panic, and that if Murphy did not give the envelope back, he would be “destroyed.” Murphy did some fast thinking and told Decker that they had torn the envelope into pieces and threw them out of the airplane as they were flying back to California.

That is what Gary says he witnessed, and I believe him. In the first edition of his book, Gary hid John's identity. Because John was dead when Gary published the second edition of his book in 1996, Gary revealed that “John” was John Tower, the Senator from Texas and George Bush’s little buddy who he nominated to be the Secretary of Defense.


Gary wrote his book in the early 1970s. New evidence keeps coming to light regarding the JFK assassination. Because of what Gary saw, I knew that Oswald was not a lone nut. The center of gravity of my research into the JFK assassination has been to see how it correlated with Gary's testimony. Every piece of credible evidence I have seen supports Gary’s story, and none contradicts it. Particularly impressive has been the recent revelations of Operation Northwoods, where the U.S. government was going to stage terrorist acts in America to manipulate Americans into supporting an invasion of Cuba. Gary’s story touches upon many facets of the JFK assassination evidence, including Oswald's military intelligence days, his association with the Cuban exiles, the “Texas Connection,” the “Republican Connection,” the oilman connection, the George Bush connection, the CIA connection, the FBI connection and others. Up until now (2002), Gary's testimony has been ignored by virtually everybody involved in investigating the JFK assassination. Gary is the only surviving member of that meeting with John Tower. Tower and Murphy both died in private plane “accidents” that may not have been accidental...


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Bill Decker and John Tower
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Date: 2/24/04 3:46:57 PM

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Friday, February 20, 2004
Molly Ivins,
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Re: Your Quote, "Friends of liberty, raise hell ! To the barricades, or at least to the post office and the e-mails."

Here goes: Senator John Kerry the War Hero and self-proclaimed friend of Veterans and his bosom buddy Senator Edward Kennedy, treasonously killed a Senate Sub-Committee Investigation ordered by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Joseph Biden into the burglary of National Guard Armorys and the theft of 50 cal. machine guns and hand grenades. Four men controlling the republican Party and CIA were behind the Armory burglaries. These men were George Bush, Sr.; William P. Clark; Robert Lagomarsino and Ronald E. Robertson. Bush owns and operates the Nordman Cormany and Hair law firm in Oxnard, Ca. Clark; Lagomarsino and Robertson were lawyers in the law firm.

The Oxnard National Guard Armory was burglarized and 50 cal. machine guns and hand grenades were stolen. William P. Clark mounted one of the 50 cal. maching guns in his Oxnard home and stated, Quote, "When the revolution comes, I'll kill every Mexican and Nigger that comes in range."

When Ronald Reagan became President in 1980 he took all four of these extremely rich oil men to Washington, D.C. and they were placed in powerful government offices.

This sub-committee ordered by Sen. Joseph Biden and chaired by Sen. Howell Heflin was also going to investigate the Assassination of JFK and the involvement of the four politically powerful men and the CIA in the murder of the President.

In 1963 I was an Investigator with the Los Angeles District Atty. Bureau of Investigation, the Criminal Intelligence Unit. I was investigating the burglary of the weapons from the Oxnard Armory and how they were being concealed and used against America. Approximately a week before the Assassination I was observing a secret meeting of these ' four men's' organization at Nudies Western Wear clothier business in Hollywood. With me was my buddy and good friend Audie Murphy, my partner Frank Hronek and Henry Jacobs, a knowledgeable citizen with deep connections in Hollywood corruption.

Audie was a Colonel in the Texas National Guard and very concerned over the Armory burglaries. We had a large van painted and disguised as a plumbing company truck and from inside we were photographing all the people at this secret meeting.

Over two dozen people were there. I will name four of them at this time. Caspar Weinberger and George Schultz, from Bechtel Corp., were present along with Hollywood's propaganda minister Jack Valenti and his accomplice, writer-director Joseph Mankiewiecz. A week later Valenti was on the scene of the Assassination of JFK in Dallas and tightly ensconced himself with LBJ as his advisor. Johnson was not involved in the murder and had no knowledge that it was going to occur.

Valenti behind the scenes with media executives of NBC; Hearst Corp; Walt Disney Corp., which owns A&E Networks prepared a program for the History Channel that portrayed Johnson as the killer of JFK. It was aired on the 40th Anniversary of JFK's murder, November 2003. Valenti with treacherous ill will now ensconces himself as a friend of LBJ. He joins with Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter and Lady Bird Johson wanting a probe into the allegations of "The Guilty Men," that LBJ killed JFK.

At the end of the secret meeting, two men, Hollywood western movie stunt men, the two most "dead-shot' rifle marksmen in the World carrying their beloved rifles in silk-lined cases stepped into a studio limo with a drivr and were driven off. We did not know at that time that their destiny was Dallas and the murder of JFK, the President of the United States.

In 1957 Joseph Mankiewiecz in a scheme with Weinberger and Schultz talked Audie, against his better judgement, into going to Saigon and making a movie, "The Quiet American," a script Mankiewiecz had written.

In 1958 the French had been gone about 2 years after their defeat at Dien Bien Phu. Weinberger and Schultz scheme was for Mankiewiecz to contact ranking Vietnam officials and heat up and inflame the already highly charged political war atmosphere and bring America into the war and show the French how to do it. They wanted Audie's presence to impress the Vietnamese and make it appear that America's military men were eager to engage a war. In 1969 - 1971 Audie, Frank and I were about to expose the entire plot when Audie was mysteriously killed in an inexplained airplane crash. This was also the 1971 period when John Kerry was so avidly protesting the Vietnam War and writing a book, " The New Soldier."

In 1987 I went to Washington D.C with an associate and gave a copy of my book, ' There's a Fish in the Courthouse" to each of the 100 Senators. Sen. Joseph Biden had fully agreed to a Senate Judiciary Committee Investigation. Biden appointed Sen. Howell Heflin as Chairman of a sub-committe to investigate. I had been taken by a uniformed Capitol Policeman to the Senate Sgt. At Arms Office and he wanted to know why I was taking this information to the Senators. We were treated with utmost respect and politeness by the Sgt. At Arms and we spent over two hours in his office showing him documents and exposing political corruption and murder.

The Sgt. At Arms was startled and amazed at the high ranking politicians involved and gave us his full approval to contact each and every one of the 100 Senators. The Sgt. At Arms called the Senate's legal office and a lawyer came immediately and escorted us to the office of the Chief of Capitol Police. The officer in charge ordered that a policeman, plain clothes Det. Jack DeWolf would accompany us to all the Senators offices and anywhere else we wanted to go.

Det. DeWolf led us to the office of the Senate's Chief Legal Attorney, Michael Davidson, who explained that he had written a letter advising each of the 100 Senators to cooperate and give us any helpful information available.

However, Chief Legal Attorney Davidson did not let us read his letter - he gave it to Det. DeWolf with instructions that he was not to let us see it and that he was to present it to each of the 100 Senators. For over three weeks we contacted the offices of every Senator and gave them evidence exposing the guilty parties involved in the National Guard Armorys, where the weapons were being concealed and how they were being used to train young people to take over America.

We also gave the Senators evidence of who killed JFK and that a highly placed person who had evidence and personal knowledge of these crimes had assured me that If I could arrange for a Senate Judiciary Committee investigation he would testify and produce all the evidence necessary to bring the killers to Justice.

1987 was the time when George Bush was gearing up to run for President, he was well aware of what we were doing. Everybody in Washington, D.C. knew what we were exposing. We spent nearly three hours in the office of AFL-CIO Presiden John Sweeny exposing the crimes. I gave Sweeny a copy of my book and he gave me a brand new Union hat that he was having made for his members. Now Sweeny and his AFL-CIO Unions are backing Kerry.

I spent many hours in the offices of Sen. Edward Kennedy and John Kerry. I gave them documents and each of them a copy of my book. The exhibited great interest in the information and evidence and gave us exuberant encouragement to continue my exposing the treasonous crimes including the murder of two of Kennedy's brothers.

Senator Kennedy appeared at one of Senator Biden's staff meetings and put his arm on our shoulders and publicly wished us success in my mission.

However, behind my back Kennedy and Kerry put tremendous pressure on Senators Biden and Heflin to kill the Senate investigation, which they did. After they had killed the Senate Judiciary Committee's investigation into these matters no one in the government would talk with me. I had also explained to Sen. Kennedy that the same people who had killed his brother John had also five years later killed his brother Robert. It was Mankiewiecz who vehemently insisted that Bobby Kennedy leave the hotel through the kitchen area. Mankiewiecz led Kennedy into the kitchen area where they had planted Sirhan Sirhan in the roll of a 'patsy' identical to Lee Harvey Oswald. Other experts with guns would actually do the execution.

Mankiewiecz's associate, Washington, D.C., lawyer Fred Dutton had powerful connections with Arab leaders and had delivered Sirhan to the plotters precisely as Oswald was delivered.

Another Senator had exhibited spirited interest, amazement and horror at the governmental corruption we presented. This was Sen. John Heinz. He asked who the person was that had vowed to give testimony and evidence to a committee. I told him I could not give him this persons name until I contacted him. I contacted Sen. John Tower and he gave me permission to give his name to Sen. Heinz, which I did.

Heinz and Tower had diligently, very quietly investigated the Kennedy Assassination; Armory burglarys and political corruption and were about to publicly expose the entire mess when suddenly they were both killed like Audie was in mysterious, unexplainable airplane crashes.

In 2003 Sen. Kennedy traveled to California and in privacy met with Schwarzenegger's associate and backers Caspar Weinberger and George Schultz, of Bechtel Corp..

The Senate Judiciary Committee Investigation in 1987 would have exposed the killers of the Kennedys and the Armory burglaries, all of which Edward Kennedy and John Kerry, both Democrat Senators from Massachusetts should have been champing at the bit to expose.

The burning questions of the Century are; Why did Kennedy and Kerry kill the Senate Investigation which would have prevented George Bush, the Republican Vice President from becoming President of the United States and, Why are they presently secretly meeting with Weinberger and Schultz, of Bechtel Corp. the same people who instigated the war in Vietnam, which Kerry and Kennedy both claim they hate??? I hope I do not show up at the barricades all alone.

Please give me your fax number and I will send you chapter 44 of my book, which details our secret meeting in Ruidoso, New Mexico only a few days after the murder of JFK. This event was presented to Sen. John Kerry and Edward Kennedy in 1987. Present at this meeting in Ruidoso was Dallas Sheriff, Bill Decker, and Sen. John Tower; Audie Murphy; myself and my partner Frank Hronek.

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