chemtrail activity

[rocco322]

Mother, you in Cali? I heard an interview on Rense with some ex military weather enginneer who said straight up that California wasn't getting their usual spraying because the planes were needed in New Orleans for Katrina. Makes sense. We had no Indian Summer this year. It was hot all the way through until the planes started last week.<br><br> Anyone know where or who I can send this video I took as posted above??? Jeff?<br><br>On a sidenote, I'm shocked that Prof. Pan is a naysayer on this one. I would say that after 30 years of eyewitness accounts, it's up to the Govt. to prove that they AREN'T spraying us . <p></p><i></i>

[marykmusic]

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[pugzleyca3]

No, it wasn't me. But I did post to you this, maybe you missed it before, the thread is getting pretty long.<br><br>please explain to me how they are not doing exactly the same thing to themselves, friends and relatives as they are to us. <br><br>Unless it is just a handful of people at the top ordering unwitting pilots and others to spray this all over the place. Even so, there has to be lower level people who know what is going on,too and anyone that knows would not want their friends and families exposed to this. <br><br>Do you think they have an antidote to make them immune to this or something? <br><br>According to the tests in the video manxcat posted the link to, the spray consists of large quantitites of barium, aluminum and biological matter, molds, etc. So this is bound to affect any and all humans on this planet, including the bad guys. And the plants and animals.<br><br>This is where I have a problem with it being population control. <p></p><i></i>

[marykmusic]

So the fact that it makes everyone and everything on the planet sick, that's a problem that stretches your Reality Box too far? Maybe it's time to start talking about the pictures folks have taken, that look like UFO's spraying chemcrud. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>

[pugzleyca3]

Yes, I guess it does stretch my reality box to the limit when it also includes the people who are killing and making everyone else sick.<br><br>I simply have a problem with it when they share the same air we do. And I am not doubting that they want to reduce the population, but it seems that they are going to be caught up in this, too, as well as all their friends and relatives. <br><br>What good is it to them if it makes them sick and they die too? <p></p><i></i>

[rocco322]

Don't you think 'they' could/would just avoid a certain area for a few days? <p></p><i></i>

[marykmusic]

There are also very cushy underground shelters. <br><br>Some folks have proposed that there is a move toward making this planet back into the natural paradise it used to be, with the wolves, other re-introduced wildlife, etc. Of course, first the main percentage of the people must be removed...<br><br>And nobody has responded about the possibility that Chemtrails are not a human-created program at all. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>

[Homeless Halo]

You couldn't just "avoid an area" for a while. All the air is all the air, one box we all live in here. Nuclear testing in New Mexico causes cancer rates to increase in Japan.<br><br>I've personally seen little/no evidence of "chemtrails". All the photos I've seen are consistent with normal jet remains. The increase in aviation not only could account for as much, but should. <br><br>It doesn't make sense. There are no "safe" places for "them" to be. The atmosphere is universal, insofar as breathing the air goes. Everyone breathes the same air. There is also no "goal" that could be accomplished by slow poison in the air that couldn't be accomplished faster, and with more "accurracy" by other means.<br><br>Just doesn't ring true, imo. <p></p><i></i>

[pugzleyca3]

I have to agree with you on this one regarding air sharing as I posted above, Homeless Halo. <br><br>The logistics alone of trying to move in and out of underground shelters or jump on airplanes to avoid it would be something beyond the realm of possibilities as well, unless there are only a dozen or so of "them". Even if it wasn't possible for this stuff to free flow through the air.<br><br>To move people around to avoid it would present some very interesting problems I would think and would include entire families being on the move, etc. And they have friends as well.<br><br>However, I do believe there is something else going on and I do not think what I am seeing here are contrails. They hang around all day and muck up the sky. Regular contrails do NOT do that. They simply dissipate. What I am seeing do not do that. Maybe the initial look of them could be explained away that they look like contrails, but what they do afterwards is not the same as contrails. That is where the rub is on this issue of which is which or if there is a difference at all. <br><br>Do you think contrails should hang around all day and muck up the entire sky from deep blue to white/gray/blue-white and stay that way for an entire day? I never thought contrails did that and when I was a kid, I used to cloud watch and watch the contrails. They never did that before, they just went away. <br><br>I have not addressed the issue that this might not be a human program because what I see are jet planes spreading this stuff around. That alone is hard enough to comprehend without throwing a monkey wrench like aliens into the mix. <br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=pugzleyca3>pugzleyca3</A> at: 10/22/05 10:22 pm<br></i>

[Homeless Halo]

I haven't seen anything other than normal contrails here. I'd have to see it in the air to know if it seemed weird or not.<br><br>I have seen normal contrails, during colder weather with no wind take longer than normal to dissipate, this coupled with large numbers of them COULD create the effect you're describing. For example, during the winter leading up to the gulf war, those of us who were children on military bases knew it had started already, because the high-tech fighterbombers were leaving daily to the war that happened before the congressional approval and UN manuevering. During these times, the air would stay filled with slowly dissipating contrails.<br><br>It COULD be poison, but that doesn't make sense because there are better ways to poison people that do not involve poisoning non-targets, not to mention far better methods of population reduction that wouldn't be so obvious as weird trails in the sky.<br><br>It COULD be weather manipulation, but we have a number of methods for doing this which would be more direct, and are legal now, which means we would've done them before anyhow. I think chemtrails in the sky would be a BAD way to try to manipulate the atmospheric conditions. Its just not very smart.<br><br>Which I guess is the issue I have with the whole thing. There is no motive, that is, there is no reason to do this particular crime. I think some people just see conspiracies everywhere.<br><br>If they wanted to get you, they'd use the water supplies. It'd be easier, and easier for elitists to avoid.<br><br>Not to mention the huge logistics issues involved in a "conspiracy" that would involve tens of thousands of people, if not more...<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[marykmusic]

The Global 2000 report to the President, prepared by<br>the Council on <br>Environmental Quality and the Department of State<br>begins as a STUDY for the <br>"PROBABLE CHANGES IN THE WORLD'S POPULATION, NATURAL<br>RESOURCES, AND <br>ENVIRONMENT THROUGH THE END OF THE CENTURY." The<br>report concludes that the <br>stresses are already severe enough to deny many<br>millions of people basic <br>needs for food, shelter, health, and jobs, or ANY HOPE<br>for betterment. At <br>the same time, the earth's carrying capacity - the<br>ability of biological <br>systems to provide resources for human needs - is<br>eroding.<br><br>In July of 1980, Secretary of State endorsed as<br>official Carter <br>administration policy the Global 2000 report, which<br>according to then <br>Secretary of State Edmund Muskie's own words "THE<br>ELIMINATION OF 2 billion <br>human beings by the year...2000. <br><br><br>Read the rest of the story here:<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://http://www.nomorehoaxes.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23&Itemid=1" target="top">www.nomorehoaxes.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23&Itemid=1</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Whether anyone believes or not, as I said earlier, doesn't mean it can't be true. --MaryK <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=marykmusic>marykmusic</A> at: 10/22/05 10:55 pm<br></i>

[Homeless Halo]

I didn't say that population reduction wasn't a goal of some powers. Clearly 2 billion people didn't die by 2000, indeed the population increased again.<br><br>What I'm saying is that just because you believe that some people want to kill other people doesn't mean that the weird cloud you saw was evidence that the clouds are in on it. <p></p><i></i>

[pugzleyca3]

Well, I have to think that vaccinations would be the perfect conduit for killing off mass segments of the population. <br><br>The more I see the "forced" vaccination laws being enacted and pushed on the American people, the more I believe that. <br><br>This would be a perfect way to not destroy the environment, to target specific people and pose no dangers whatsoever to themselves. And it could be done with enough diversity that people would never know what hit them. And they could bleed them dry of all their worldly goods in hospital bills before they go.<br><br>Not only do we get to pay for the research done to kill us, we get to fund the manufacture, distribution and materials costs of it. And then pay again, when trying to cure ourselves. Win win for NWO. Screwed, blued and tatooed for the public. <br><br>And of course, with our lapdog media and fucked up government, who's going to tell us anything? Nobody.<br><br>This to me, would be the perfect killing mechanism. Clean, controllable, targeted and possibly timed where there are not too many bodies to deal with at any given time. And it could be blamed on something that instills more fear to cause more people to line up and beg for the shots. <br><br>I'm sure that anyone who is contemplating doing something like this has much more insight to this than I ever could have. <p></p><i></i>

[marykmusic]

...is the way agencies work. Can't put all your eggs in one basket... try several different programs to accomplish the same thing.<br><br>I still say that, as much or more than anything else, chemtrails are weather control. Not all of the ingredients stay the same; lately most (if not all) of the reports we read of increased and/or resumed spraying seem to be in urban areas.<br><br>Who can tell us about rural area spraying? --MaryK <p></p><i></i>

[pugzleyca3]

I'm in a rural area and they are going at it balls out over here. Especially in the past week or so. <br><br>I go long periods and don't look at it. But since this thread started, I will try to keep a better handle on what I'm seeing. <br><br>I posted previously (in this thread) descriptions of how bad the air looks here where I'm at, today was especially horrible. And something else I've noticed, the horizon has had a strange yellowish look up to a certain point and then it is the white/gray/blue-white colors on top of that. <br><br>I don't know how high up the yellowish haze goes, I wouldn't know how to measure that. It's ugly, that's for sure. Looks like air pollution, but I am about 100 miles from Los Angeles and the air was really clean and pure here where I'm at when we bought this house 4 and a half years ago. <br><br>I'm not sure exactly when all this started. The nearest mid-sized city is about 60 miles away, so I don't think this could be air pollution. But then, maybe it could, who knows? (The closest town with a real shopping mall in it is about 25 miles from me.<br><br>One time, it was so bad that I sent pictures of the chemtrails to the newspaper. Of course, they blew me off and ignored me except to say it was just regular contrails. And I am sure they think I am nuts for it. Oh, well, what can you do? <p></p><i></i>