Kogi Elder, Earth's Spiritual Protectors, Under Attack

by **Starman** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:06 pm

The following articles re: the horrible ongoing depradations --essentially genocide, call it what it is-- of one of South America's oldest, most dignified and cohesive indigenous tribes, the Kogi, is absolutely heartbreaking -- tragically, unbearably, yet another indication of the great duplicity and opportunistic crimes committed by the US political infrastructure and military industry on behalf of a specious 'War on Drugs' that has greatly exacerbated Columbia's civil war and diverted untold millions of dollars for well-positioned US-based mercenary companies and weapons/defense contractors supplying Columbia's military and paramilitary forces -- with peasants stuck in the middle of a crossfire. I too saw (and taped) the Documentary on the Kogi Elders cited below several years ago, and was deeply moved by their sincere spiritual committment to upholding tradition as a way of preserving critical balance and preventing the planet and its peoples from being decimated by the poisoning and conflict that follows colonial development -- factories and pollution, armies and conflicts, poisons and atrocities, crime and inhumanity, decadence and greed, physical sickness and spiritual asphixiation. The Elder Kogi saw themselves as having a critical duty in defending the integrity and health of the world by maintaining the sacredness of their mountain community. In their observation of spiritual awareness and ritual practice they help preserve a delicate balance so that forces of death and illness don't overwhelm us. Among their observances was resisting change or introduction of modern conveniences and prohibiting anyone who wasn't indigenous from even visiting their mountain community -- with rare exception made for the Documentary film crew for the 'greater good' purpose of sharing the fact of their sacred duty. Anyway-- I am thoroughly disgusted by this latest evidence of how the insane US-led Oil/resource war and Drug-War-rationalized genocide has now begun to target these remarkable, gracious and dignified people who are among the most innocent and selfless victims of all, essentially practicing their life-affirming Good Magic positive-vision rituals to keep the world and its people safe from harm. So WHO here is really 'civilized', anyway? What can be said? Starman *** Background: <a href="http://www.crystalinks.com/kogi.html">www.crystalinks.com/kogi.html</a> The Kogi are an indigenous people who live in a mountain in the high Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta mountains of northern Colombia, in South America. Their remote mountain home is situated in Northern Columbia, and is considered to be the highest coastal mountain range in the world. In 1498 the Spaniards arrived in Northern Colombia enslaving the native Indians. The Kogi fled to the mountaintop where they have managed to remain an isolated tribe ever since. During the Spanish Conquest, the narrow coastal strip bordering the Sierra Nevada was the scene of violent battles in which the European invaders tried to subdue the Indians who put up fierce resistance. The Kogi are the only tribe the Spanish didn't conquer. These Indians, known as the Tairona, had reached by the early sixteenth century a high level of cultural development, making them amongst the most advanced of all the aboriginal groups of the Kingdom of New Grenada - what is today Columbia. The tribe known as 'Los Kogui' are the direct descendants of the Tairona civilization and are today's custodians of that ancient culture. The Tairona culture flourished in Northern Colombia around 1,000 AD. They left behind stunning gold artwork, stone and pottery artifacts and an amazing network of brick roads covering the Sierra Nevada. They have a population of approximately 12,000 people. They live to a very old age, mostly in good health. To penetrate a Kankurua is to enter into contact with the nine worlds and the nine states of consciousness that make it up. They plant crops and live off the land. They prefer not to mix with outsiders. Few Colombians, or those from the outside worlds, are allowed to enter their mountain. They marry in their culture. Some say they have moved beyond verbal language, using tones to create colorful images in their minds rather than thoughts expressed as sentences. Some Kogi speak telepathically to each other. The Kogis constantly move about from place to place, between their different abodes spread among the different levels of the Sierra Nevada mountain range. This is one way in which they take care of their nutritional needs without abusing the environment. The Mountain The Sierra Nevada, in the shape of a pyramid, rises from the sunny coasts of the Caribbean tropics to the chilly, snow-capped peaks that reach a height of 17,000 feat above sea level, all in only 30 vertical miles. Within just fifty kilometres the northern slopes descend from snow capped peaks to the turquoise waters, tropical jungle shores and coral reefs of the Caribbean ocean. Day and night are of equal length all year round. It has every eco-system in its 17,000 km2 area (8,000 sq. miles) You can find coral reefs, mangroves, arid deserts, rain and cloud forest, and in the higher elevations, plains and snow-capped peaks with temperatures close to 0 degrees. The highest peak is the Pico Simon Bolivar at 5,775 mtrs. In 1965, archeologists found the remains of a lost Tairona religious center and called it the 'Lost City.' It is a three-day hike in dense jungle to witness a true wonder of the past. It is believed that there are two more lost cities. These highlands are (believed by the Kogi) to be inhabited by the Gods and the spirits of the dead. A universe of signs and symbols, this territory is a veritable "open book" which is their bridge to the world and their collective history. Spiritual Connections The Kogi believe the Sierra Nevada to be the 'Place of Creation' and the 'Heart of the World'. They call themselves the Elder Brothers of humanity and consider their mission to care for planet. They understand how the planet works as an integrated unit rather than the separation of all things in our worlds. Much like other ancient tribal civilizations that still exist on the planet, they believe themselves to be the custodians of the planet Earth here to keep things in balance. They achieve this through meditation wherein they communicate with all living things on the planet - humans, animals, plants, rock, etc. They live in Aluna, an inner world of thought and potential. From Aluna they astral travel or remote view to places both on and off the physical planet. Their sacred lands are perceived as a metaphysical symbol of cosmic forces within the whole world - an oracle of the natural balance and health of the planet. As with other indigenous tribes, Kogi society has changed little in the past five centuries. They survived as a culture because the Kogi focus all their energy on the life of the mind as opposed to the life of a body or an individual. Fundamental to that survival is the maintenance of physical separation from their world and the rest of humanity. They are very protective of their sacred space and the dense jungle is not kind to tourists. They worry about the destruction of the rain forest as well as the planet itself. This area embraces some of the most biologically diverse tropical rainforests on the planet. The Kogi are inseparable from the rainforest habitat in which they have lived since the dawn of time. As with most indigenous tribes a connection to Spirit or entities from other worlds who bring messages, is found. Through oracle propheices and message with Spirit, they are aware of a great change that is coming now to planet Earth. Their Mountain is dying, symbolizing this transition. Similar to what many other tribes around the world see is a world that was about to be destroyed by the misuse of consciousness. Then they saw the emergence of light consciousness as part of the process of humanity emerging as a race of beings in higher evolved light bodies. This strongly connects with the metaphysical teachings of our times. According to Drunvalo Melchizedek - --quote-- The Kogi do not see us as "sleeping" as many of the Hindu and Oriental religions perceive us. The Kogi see us as "dead". We are not alive, but only shadows of the energy we could be. We do not have enough life force energy and consciousness to be classified by them as real people. The Kogi set out to find out why the "dead ones" were still on Earth, and as they searched the living vibrating records of this Reality, they found exactly where and why it had happened. Some of the 'dead ones' had become alive, and had created a dream with enough life force to "save the world" as we know it. In our terms, some of us had created a 'parallel world' where life could continue to grow, a world where the "dead" could become alive. The Kogi were so specific to locate exactly who these people were that were creating this change that had altered the world's destiny. The Kogi saw these people with living bodies of light around them. People who had activated their 'Light Bodies' or in the ancient terms, their 'Mer-Ka-Ba'. Ellie's View on parallel realities - October 2001 Each of our souls exists in many dimensions. We are here reading this article in our 3D - third dimensional body (consciousness). We are in our astral bodies at night when we dream or when we meditate. We have other bodies of light. There are many parallel realities that mirror this one. We place our conscious minds wherever we wish to learn and experience, then we simply leave 3D. The term 'dead' means we are no longer interested in experiencing in our physical body so we leave it for something more efficient, that can move faster, learn quicker, remember everything, we can teleport, do telekineses, and do not deal with emotional issues. Out in the big universe of our creation - anything and all things are possible. When we expand our minds, conscious awareness, we come to understand how that works. That knowledge than becomes part of our 3D reality on physical planet Earth. The Kogi prophecy saw destruction for the planet on August 11, 1999. All of the prophets saw destruction of the planet in and around that timeline. I never saw it and wrote that things would continue in all of my daily columns that year and 2000. I do believe that what all of the prophets saw was a change that takes us from 3D beings to those of higher light. That change will come 'out of the blue' and has nothing to do with the dramas played out from year to year in our time on planet Earth. Those events are like a computer program in the holodek. The change to higher frequency has nothing to do with that. Each day, thousands of people become more aware of who they are other than their 3D experiences. Once they reach that point they are on their way to understand the change that will soon occur. There is no date as the timelines changes constantly. There is a correlation to an celestial event that is not part of the astrological calendar now. --unquote-- Shamanic Practices - Coca Plant Shaman are called 'Mamas'. Kogi Mamas are chosen from birth and spend the first nine years of childhood in a cave in total darkness learning the ancient secrets of the spiritual world or Aluna. They are the priests and judges who control Kogi society. All major decisions and shamanic work are done by Divination. All is the world of Aluna, so the Mamas see a reflection of the physical world first in the spiritual world. If Aluna is the Mother, then the Kogi listen to the Mother by divining. This lost technique of divination is what keeps the Kogi world in balance and order. The Mamas - as with other spiritual tribal leaders around the world - are worried that the Younger Brother has not heeded the first warning. If the Sierra Nevada or the Mother dies, the world will also die. They use the coca bush for many things. Myths reveal that it was the Aluna herself who instituted coca chewing among the Kogi and who gave a lime gourd to her first son, as a symbolic wife. Other myths tell that coca was originally discovered in the flowing hair of a young girl who let her father only participate in its use. An envious and jealous young man transformed himself into a bird and, after watching the girl bathing in the river, seduced her. When he returned home and changed back into human shape, he shook his hair and out of it fell two coca seeds. Small plantations of coca shrubs are found near all Kogi settlements, and provide the men with tender green leaves, plucked by the women. All adult men chew the slightly toasted leaves, adding to the moist wad small portions of lime. Coca shrubs are planted and tended by the men but the leaves are gathered by women. Periodically the men toast these leaves inside the temple, using for this end a special double-handled pottery vessel. This ritual vessel made by a Kogi priest can be used only for the toasting of coca leaves. When chewed with coca, lime is a substance which helps the mucous membranes in the mouth absorb the alkaloids in the leaves. The Kogi produce Lime by burning sea shells on a small pyre carefully constructed with chosen splints. The fine white powder is then sifted into a ritual gourd which is carried by all men. The Lime container consists of a small gourd which is slightly pear-shaped and perforated along the top. While all lime gourds consist of the same raw material, the wood of the stick which is inserted into it, must correspond to the patriline of the owner. Each patriline uses a different wood taken from the trees belonging to certain botanical species. The length of the stick may vary from 20 to 30cms. and, together with the degree of surface polish, these various characteristics identify its owner. An initiated Kogi man will easily recognise the patriline of his companions, simply by looking at their lime sticks. The symbolic importance of the lime container and its stick is manifold. In one most important image, the gourd is a woman. During the marriage ceremony the ma gives the bridegroom a gourd with these words: "Now I give you a lime gourd; I give you a woman." He then hands the bridegroom the lime stick and orders him to perforate with it the gourd at its upper end, thus symbolising the act of deflowering the bride. Both men and women say quite openly that coca chewing has an aphrodisiacal effect upon male sexuality, and newly wed couples are very outspoken about this. Male initiation, marriage, and habitual coca chewing are three elements which coincide at a certain period in a young mans life. Young men sometimes say that they dislike coca chewing but most of them, sooner or later, yield to the pressures exercised by the priests and the older generation, and adopt the habit. While slowly chewing some twenty or thirty toasted leaves, the man will wet the lower and slightly pointed end of the stick with saliva and will insert it into the gourd. Withdrawing the stick again he will put the adhering lime into his mouth. Immediately he will rub the stick around the top of the gourd in a circular motion. Eventually, this daily repeated action of rubbing the stick on the gourd surface begins to form a thin layered crust of yellowish-white lime that covers the upper part of the container. Some old lime gourds display a disc shaped accretion of up to 10cms. in diameter, carefully fashioned by the gourd's owner. The many symbolic meanings of coca chewing and of the physical objects involved in this act, form a coherent whole. In macrocosmic perspective, a lime gourd is a model of the universe; the stick when inserted, becomes a world axis, and knowledgeable men will be able to talk at great length, explaining the structure of the universe in terms of levels, rims or directions appearing on the gourd. On another scale, the gourd can be compared to the Sierra Nevada; the lime-splattered upper part are the snow peaks, and the stick is the world axis. Certain mountain peaks, crowned with white, rocky cliffs, are the Sun's lime containers, and so are all the temples and houses. The coca plant is an integral part of the Kogi way of life, deeply involved with their traditions, religion, work and medicine. Perhaps the most ancient use of coca in South America is its employment in shamanistic practises and religious rituals. The mild mental excitation induced by chewing the coca leaves enables the shaman to enter more easily into a trance state in which he could communicate with the spiritual forces of nature and summon them to his aid. Large scale deforestation and clearing of the jungle is posing a massive threat to the natural habitat of the Sierra Nevada and its flora and fauna. In recent years the sinister illusion of the marijuana cultivation practised by settlers from inland and fueled by encouragement by the Columbian and International mafia has destroyed vast areas of the jungle. The Twentieth Century As the world becomes 'smaller' - and 'old' meets 'new' - even the most ancient civilizations will become part of the evolution now occurring for all of humanity as a race Nothing in human history ever remains the same as we move through our journey back to our spiritual origins. In 1990 the Kogi decided they must speak out to the rest of the world. They had survived by keeping themselves isolated but they decided that it was time to send a message to the Younger Brother. They could see that something was wrong with their mountain, with the heart of the world. The snows had stopped falling and the rivers were not so full. If their mountain was ill then the whole world was in trouble. The Mamas sent one of the Kogi who spoke Spanish to contact a British film maker who was in Colombia at that time. They asked the BBC to make a film to tell the Younger Brother about their concern. It was called 'The Elder Brother's Warning 'or' The Message from the Heart of the World'. Alan Ereira, the producer, has also written a book about the Kogi called The Heart of the World (<a href="http://www.reelwest.com/magazine/archives/vol14_3/heart2.htm).">www.reelwest.com/magazine...art2.htm).</a> Since the film was brought out many changes have taken place. The film had a major impact on the Colombian Government and also on the grave robbers. The grave robbers felt that they should stop because they felt bad about disturbing their ancestors. There are now two Kogi members of parliament. The Tairona Heritage Trust was set up to support the Kogi and to buy back some of the original Kogi lands to give them a passage to the sea. ************ <a href="http://www.rense.com/general67/kogi.htm">www.rense.com/general67/kogi.htm</a> The Kogi Of Columbia Are Being Exterminated By The US From WJG Anthony 7-23-5 Dear Jeff, There is a genocidal atrocity underway in Colombia that threatens a highly sophisticated precolombian tribe known as the Kogi. If you aren't familiar with these people, they are extraordinary, and I urge you to take an interest. The documentary mentioned below is one of the most extraordinary films I've witnessed. Please have a look. I'm pasting from a thread on the Democratic Underground BB. Links are included for further information included details of how their land has been ruined by the drug irradication poisons. Thanks and keep up the good work, Zorbuddha _____ Silent US Genocide against the "Heart of the World: Kogi Indians" My head is EXPLODING! I am so outraged right now at what I have just learned about what has been done to the beautiful Kogi tribe of South America by the MURDEROUS thugs controlling our country. Let me explain: In the early 90's I saw a documentary called "From the Heart of the World: A Message from the Elder Brothers" It haunted me for years- a BBC employee made the film. I saw it once and could not stop thinking about it for years. I finally tracked it down, thanks to the net, and corresponded briefly with the man who made the documentary and discovered that I could get a copy. In short, the message from the Elder Brothers, as the Kogi refer to themselves, was based in CENTURIES of spiritual teaching regarding a mountain which they believe is the heart of the world- the message? When the mountain began to die, so would the world. HELLO? Global warming has fulfilled this warning. Well, I just went to the Foundation trust site for the Kogi and found this: An Open Letter to the President of the United States: PLEASE READ IT AND FULLY COMPREHEND WHAT HAS HAPPENED. <a href="http://www.taironatrust.org">www.taironatrust.org</a> / Like I said, knowing what little I do know about the Kogi, one of the last Indigenous peoples to remain as they have for CENTURIES on the planet, a BEAUTIFUL society living in complete harmony with the planet, my head is exploding. The utter EVIL that the Bushites are doing on this planet MUST stop. NOW. About the Kogi: <a href="http://www.labyrinthina.com/kogi.htm">www.labyrinthina.com/kogi.htm</a> "The Kogi know secrets about nature that would make our scientists rethink their ideas on the environment and the universe. They have a presence about them that commands respect. The power of their mind is beyond comprehension. But few people outside of Colombia know who they are and what they represent. Why do they call themselves the Elder Brothers and how can we learn to live in the spiritual world that this lost tribe lives in? 8 years ago I saw an amazing video called "From the Heart of the World, The Elder Brothers Warning." It was about a unique indigenous community that lived in Northern Colombia who say they are keeping the world in balance. I was so impressed with these people because they are still living with the same spiritual values and traditions of their ancestors. But the ecological warning the Kogi shared touched a nerve and made me realize they may be right." Please consider supporting to the Tairona Foundation- they will send you a copy of the documentary and believe me, it will change your life. BHN Open Letter To The President Of The United States From WJG Anthony zorbuddha@isp.com By Paguita 7-23-5 COLOMBIA -- About fumigations in the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta. I work for a French NGO , "Tchendukua" whose goal is to recuperate land for the Kogi Indians living in the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta in Colombia. In 2000 we bought, La Luna, a land, with access to the sea, It was the first time since the Spanish invasion that the Kogis had a low land. They were so happy, full of hope. At the end of June 2004, La Luna became an " Indigenous Reserve" , a protected area... The Sierra is also one of the UNESCO's "Biosphere Reserves". Fifteen days later, on July 17th, a plane from Dyncorp passed only once to fumigate La Luna. That was enough to provoke a complete disaster. Some days ago, I saw the rushes of a second movie we have made on the Kogis. Now, La Luna is like some places in Asia after the tsunami... I could not believe it. The Kogis took five years to regenerate the soil, now they will have to wait, at least, five more years to replant. Everything is contaminated and the streams are dry because there are no more trees to retain water. What are they going to eat? What are they going to drink? Where to go? Tchendukua's director in Santa Marta organized some time ago with the Kogis and the farmers around, the eradication of coca by hand. There was no coca in La Luna. It is impossible that your sophisticated planes are unable to detect Indians villages. In the movie there is a scene with a Kogi shaman sitting in front of his house, in the middle of the devastation. He is crying. This image is unbearable and it will remain in my memory forever. Yes, Mr. Bush, an image can turn people really angry. Remember the picture of Nick Ut showing a little girl naked, burned by US Napalm, running on a road in Vietnam. This image had an incredible impact in America. Condolezza Rice wants Colombia to change its laws and spray in National Parks such as La Macarena, El Catatumbo, La Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta, etc... To achieve that dirty job, a new aerial base for fumigation planes will be built at a cost of $125 million US. The fumigation of La Luna on July 17th 2004 was completely illegal. (And more -- an unconscionable moral outrage, yet another instance of the US waging a dirty chemical/radiological/biological-war of attrition to make the land uninhabited and thus 'open' to unhindered exploitation and reconquest. Dyncorp and the para-military/spook organizations that fund and direct insidious covert-ops are completely unaccountable by law or to any regulating & oversight agency -- THIS is the legacy of American Imperialism via its well-perfected doctrine of maintaining a strategy of tension. Depleted Uranium in Kosova/Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Iraq, Agent Orange in Vietnam and SE Asia, and now Agent Green ie. Round-Up via Plan Columbia --the US's indiscriminate spreading of poisons are among the most horrible war crimes and crimes against peace and genocidal atrocities of our age -- far in excess of the so-called crimes that villianous scapegoats as Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden, Milosevic, Al Qaeda, the Taliban or Zarquawi have been accused of -- WHERE is there any real Justice for the victims of American warmongering? I'm simply appalled again and again. -S) In the Sierra, Kogis, Arsarios-Wiwas, Kankuamos and Arhuacos are starting to have health problems , especially children (see notes-page 14). In Vietnam, after 45 years, Agent Orange is still active. The new poisoned cocktail is called Agent Green. If you take the ingredients one by one, it doesn't seem so dangerous. If you mix them, highly concentrated, it is a terrible weapon. The mixture is made with Monsanto Round Up Ultra, Cosmoflux 411F (illegal in the US), POEA and the fungus fusarium oxysporum EN-4. Dr David Sands, an American scientist who made some researches on EN-4 admits (interview with the BBC-2000) that you can call it a Green Warfare or a Biological Warfare. When you had a few cases of Anthrax in your country it was immediately called a terrorist biological attack... The Dutch government donated 500.000 euros for the eradication of coca by hand in the Amazonas and the Sierra. A part of this donation is dedicated for substitution cultures and social development. The Netherlands asked the parks director, Julia Miranda, to confirm whether the decision to fumigate on the protected aeras was definitive, because if it were so, "it could be motive to request the suspension of activities financed by his Embassy". Mr. Bush, you and your government, you will be responsible for the genocide or ethnocide (see notes-page 10)) of the most ancient and sophisticated precolombian cultures in Colombia. The proper name for this worthless so-called drugwar is BIOLOGICAL and CHEMICAL WARFARE. Before writing this, I've asked a Dr in Molecular Biology if I could use those words, the answer was yes. Mr. Bush, will you dare to say that you are doing this "In the Name of God"? Where are the courageous American scientists who helped to stop the fumigations with Agent Orange in Vietnam in 1971? REQUIEM FOR THE SIERRA NEVADA DE SANTA MARTA... AND MANY OTHER PLACES! Paquita kogis@wanadoo.fr NOTES UNITED NATIONS Economic and Social Council Distr. GENERAL E/CN.4/2005/88/Add.2 10 November 2004 COMMISSION ON HUMAN RIGHTS Sixty-first session Item 15 of the provisional agenda INDIGENOUS ISSUES Human rights and indigenous issues. Report of the Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights and fundamental freedoms of indigenous people, Mr. Rodolfo Stavenhagen Addendum MISSION TO COLOMBIA* Page 10 On the western slopes of the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta, an area visited by the Special Rapporteur, the Kankuamo people (3,000 families, 13,000 people and 12 communities), who live inside the "black line" which marks the traditional boundary of their territory, are now in the process of reclaiming their indigenous identity. Their lands have been recognized, but no reserve has yet been established. Guerrilla groups started arriving in the 1980s and AUC set up a base there in the 1990s, with the result that the number of kidnappings and murders escalated to a level far above the rural and regional average, particularly from 1998 onwards. It was then that the massacres of indigenous people, the mass displacements, the blockades and the forced confinement of communities to their villages began. More than 300 families are reportedly still displaced as a result of attacks and threats of various kinds. The accounts given to the Special Rapporteur testified to the continued ethnic cleansing, genocide and ethnocide of the Kankuamo people despite the protective and precautionary measures requested by the Ombudsman and the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights and several urgent appeals by a number of special mechanisms of the Commission on Human Rights. Page 14 Indigenous organizations described to the Special Rapporteur the adverse effects of indiscriminate spraying, including environmental damage to the topsoil, fauna, flora and water, the destruction of subsistence crops and direct damage to human health, including birth defects. The Special Rapporteur was also told that there are technical and scientific studies to substantiate these assertions. The indigenous peoples see the aerial spraying of coca plantations as yet another violation of their human rights and, save for a few occasions when they have given their consent, actively oppose the practice; this position again brands them as guerrilla sympathizers, as happened after the rights marches organized by certain indigenous communities to protest against the spraying. The Office of the Ombudsman has received 318 complaints concerning spraying operations in three municipalities in Putumayo in July 2002 and their effect on 6,070 families and 5,034 hectares of land.

by **antiaristo** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:28 pm

Starman, Terribly sad story. You're with us or against us. One can only hope that some publicity from Chavez' new leftish broadcasting operation will raise consciousness. They'll do the same to all of us if they can.

by **slimmouse** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:42 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>You're with us or against us.<hr></blockquote> And of course The comedian conveniently forgot to add. "Or you have something we want, in which case we'll make sure youre 'found to be' against us" Be that your land, your mind, or your soul. These people are evil personified. I had my email hacked earlier this week. I was posting a few links from here and elsewhere trying to do my bit. "They" are clearly nervous. BTW. The latest news ; "It now appears that the camera which might have filmed the stockwell incident - (The shooting of the Brazilian guy) - wasnt working " Excuse me, Is that one of them or all of them ? Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 7/29/05 4:01 pm

by **DrDebugDU** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:08 pm

I doubt whether Dyncorp even cares about it. And the chances of any of this hitting the newspapers is zero as well, so they'll just keep on doing this stuff. BTW. More latest news: There were no timing devices in the London Underground Bombing. The earlier official story was incorrect. The 'suicide' bombers happened to execute the bombs at the same time.

by **seemslikeadream** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:38 pm

Thank you Starman for ALL your posts Today I am especially grateful to Jeff and everyone here.

Kogi Elder, Earth's Spiritual Protectors, Under Attack

Kogi Elder, Earth's Spiritual Protectors, Under Attack

Kogi Under Attack

Re: Kogi Under Attack

Horrible story

Re: Kogi Elder, Earth's Spiritual Protectors, Under Attack

Who is online