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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:35 am
by jenz
for the 2nd time fwiw, just mentioning that early pot smoking has been linked with schizophrenia. just saying this in case kiddos are listening in and taking the pot is wholly wholesome idea from a very polarised lot of povs. too little really useful research to come down heavily one way or t'other. but maybe taking something which helps deal with vomiting caused by chemotherapy is not the same as taking same substance because it might help with depression - so it is a stupid cross-purposes argument to get into. <p></p><i></i>

I started this thread, I can ask to lock it.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:08 pm
by banned
And I can say whatever I want to about you, ProfessorPot, because YOU started the ad hominem attacks. YOU saw I didn't wish to discuss it in this thread, which was about death and loss. You had nothing to say on topic, and you waited until I had made it clear to FourthBase I didn't want to talk about it AND said I favor legalization of pot so that regardless of my own personal beliefs (and for the record I do NOT believe across the board that marijuana is the ONLY thing that relieves chemo nausea--there are other drugs that work, yes I believe that it's POSSIBLE that is true for some people but it's also true they want to smoke pot for other reasons. EVEN IF THAT IS TRUE I support their right to smoke it for any reason they want to advance--just DO NOT ASK ME to believe their rationale. <br><br>Your problem is you are at bottom a fascist. I've seen how you argue. You don't accept that there are differences of opinion, and grant others the right to theirs--the minute someone contradicts one of your pet hobbyhorses you go into character assassination mode. Because in your narcissism you believe that only you are right and anyone who disagrees with you is open to be treated like dirt and bullied until they either withdraw from the argument to get away from the headache and pointless nausea of arguing with a monstrously self absorbed narcissist, or agree with you.<br><br>Narcissists don't think, they're like snakes--they go instinctively to strike at anything that is 'not them.' I don't think pot is 'good for' anyone but I'm willing to let everyone pick their poison (adults, not children) because I believe in individual choice. You not only don't believe in individual choice of ACTION if it isn't what you want (WAA WAA just like a 2 year old, the mental age of all narcissists), you don't believe in individual right to one's personal BELIEFS that are not imposed on anyone.<br><br>I asked for two things: my right to my opinion on pot, and my right to state I didn't want to talk about it in this thread. I made all the concessions I was willing to make--detente with FourthBase, stating my belief in legalizing pot. But that wasn't enough for you, on you piled with your personal attacks. <br><br>That's why I spit on you. I'd still be fine with Jeff locking the thread--a shame that death and loss seem not to be as interesting to this board as harping endlessly on Zionism but those are the breaks--but until he does I'll say what I want, you fucking cheapjack fascist pig hiding in your New Age blatting.<br><br>And by the way I don't care if you and Peter McWilliams had hot buttsex every night for ten years--bringing him into it was just one more example of your narcissistic "look at how important *I* am" attitude, like your KNOWING a cancer patient can compare by one iota to my having HAD cancer. You're not important, you know, you're just another petty little blogbully who thinks they have the right to come on any thread and hijack it to make themselves look good--in your case, oh so compassionate. Your compassion didn't extend to me despite your smarmy too-late remarks.<br><br>Fuck yourself, ProfessorFascist. I lay a curse on you: one day you will get cancer and you will see what it's like. And nothing will ease your nausea, not all the weed in the world. Remember me as you writhe in agony and wish you'd shown me compassion which is nothing but a word to you. LET IT BE DONE. <p></p><i></i>

Sorry to those who might have wanted...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:12 pm
by banned
...to stay on topic, or at least on a tangent pertaining to the topic.<br><br>I've lost my interest in it, and pretty much in this board.<br><br>Lock or don't lock. <br><br>With whatever time I have left on the planet, I don't need "talking" in cyberspace to a fucking jackass I wouldn't give the time of day to in real life. <p></p><i></i>

And to correct your deliberate attempt...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:34 pm
by banned
...to make the uninformed think McWilliams was actually killed by the government, here's what happened:<br><br>"Of course, if Peter did choke after vomiting it would be directly the result of his having been denied the right to use medical marijuana." <br><br>By that reasoning, every person who died because they didn't have adequate health care died as a result of poor, unethical policy decisions made by the US Government.<br><br>In a global moral sense that may well be true.<br><br>By choking on your own vomit is not by any stretch of the imagination 'murder' which is a legal term of art requiring certain conditions be met, including INTENT to kill a particular person.<br><br>I am very sorry for McWilliams, sorriest that although he was terribly ill from AIDS he was apparently not able to afford, from the sale of his computer and self help books, round the clock nursing or hospice care which would have prevented a choking episode from being fatal. (According to the same article I found the above quote in, he DID have the money for 'expensive antivirals' which is more than many AIDS patients have.<br><br>Again: I support medical marijuana FOR EVERYONE not just people lucky enough to live in the Bay Area or financially well off enough to buy it from their local dealer. I support legalization of pot at reasonable prices anyway for adults for recreational use.<br><br>Go peddle your pro-pot hysteria to somebody else, OK ProfessorPothead? You're preaching to the choir here, at least when it comes to legality and availability. My personal "opinions" (love how you put them in quotes, in your narcissofantasymind only YOU are actually entitled to hold a non quotes opinion that is accorded respect) are mine and last time I looked it's a free country. You can smoke pot, and I can think you're a self indulgent addict scrambling your brains. I can also SAY SO until they actually do repeal the First Amendment. <p></p><i></i>

Re: And to correct your deliberate attempt...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:18 pm
by professorpan
Wow.<br><br>You're a real winner, Banned.<br><br>All I tried to do was enter a conversation -- I didn't realize you "owned" a thread because you started it. Often threads change direction, and take a different turn, and others join in. It's the way message boards work, in case you haven't noticed.<br><br>And anyone can go back through this and read the exchange, and make up their own minds about my character. And about yours.<br><br>So far, you've labeled me or said the following (including wishing cancer upon me -- thanks!):<br><br>self righteous self appointment as Mr. Sensitive and Mr. PC<br>idiotic<br>full of shit<br>ProfessorEmptyBrainPan<br>I spit on you<br>ProfessorPot<br>fascist<br>I don't care if you and Peter McWilliams had hot buttsex every night for ten years<br>you're just another petty little blogbully who thinks they have the right to come on any thread and hijack it to make themselves look good<br>Fuck yourself, ProfessorFascist<br>I lay a curse on you: one day you will get cancer and you will see what it's like<br>fucking jackass I wouldn't give the time of day to in real life.<br><br>What a guy ;-) <p></p><i></i>