Daily Mail:Time-warped family walk on all fours

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Daily Mail:Time-warped family walk on all fours

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:18 pm

<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/03/timewarpfamilyBBC070306_450x298.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>March 7</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>An extraordinary family who walk on all fours are being hailed as the breakthrough discovery which could shed light on the moment Man first stood upright.<br><br>Scientists believe that the five brothers and sisters found in Turkey could hold unique insights into human evolution.<br><br>The Kurdish siblings, aged between 18 and 34 and from the rural south, 'bear crawl' on their feet and palms. <br><br>Study of the five has shown the astonishing behaviour is not a hoax and they are largely unable to walk otherwise.<br><br>Researchers have found a genetic condition which accounts for their extraordinary movement. And it could provide invaluable information on how humans evolved from a four-legged hominid into a creature walking on two feet.<br><br>...<br><br>The five can stand upright, but only for a short time, with both knees and head flexed.<br><br>Their remarkable story is told in a television documentary, to be screened next week, which shows scientists studying their movement, but also their struggle to fit in with modern society.<br><br>...<br><br>The five are all mentally retarded. Their mother and father, who are closely related are believed to have handed down a unique combination of genes which result in the behaviour.<br><br>Some researchers argue the genetic fault has caused the brothers and sisters to regress to a form of 'backward evolution'. Others believe it has led to brain damage which has allowed them to develop the walk.<br><br>...<br><br>Prof Humphrey said he thought the family had reverted to an instinctive form of behaviour encoded deep in the brain but abandoned during evolution.<br><br>He said: "I do not think they were destined to be quadrupeds by their genes, but their unique genetic make-up allowed them to be.... However they arrived at this point, we have adult human beings walking like ancestors several million years ago."<br><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=379134&in_page_id=1770">Daily Mail</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Daily Mail:Time-warped family walk on all fours

Postby thoughtographer » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:26 pm

This won't be good for Kurdish people in general. This won't be good for anyone. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Daily Mail:Time-warped family walk on all fours

Postby JerkyLeBoeuf » Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:14 pm

Inbred, retarded AND deformed?<br><br>Damn that's HAWT!!! <p></p><i></i>
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the time -warped family

Postby mother » Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:20 pm

So called, "feral children" such as Victor the Wolf Boy walked on all fours. This was because he was nurtured by wolves. Genie (famous study from 1960's US) who had been strapped to a potty seat for years with no attention had some difficulty walking and talking. I would expect a whole lot more info on these guys before buying the theory. (one of our foster children was on the very edge of feral, and his methods of getting around were also unusual, along with a lot of unusual traits that might be associated with the theory of evolution) But we need Hugh Manatee to figure out if it's a psy-op! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Daily Mail:Time-warped family walk on all fours

Postby sijepuis » Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:16 pm

... not to mention that, from a purely physical standpoint, walking on fours requires a phenomenal effort.<br><br>Um ... friends, I think our illustrious host is trying to make a point.<br><br>Daily Mail [?]<br><br>Quotes taken out of context ...<br><br>"An editor of a noted scientific journal says ..."<br><br>"Scientists believe ..."<br><br><br>You can fool me twice but I'll bet you the farm and my toothless boy is that ever weird, etc.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Daily Mail:Time-warped family walk on all fours

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:32 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Um ... friends, I think our illustrious host is trying to make a point.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Maybe, but not that point. <br><br>Here's a BBC link ("A BBC documentary about the family will be shown on Friday 17 March"):<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4782492.stm">Family May Provide Evolutionary Clue</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41413000/jpg/_41413300_family3_bbc_203.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Calluses on the hands show the behaviour is no hoax</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Daily Mail:Time-warped family walk on all fours

Postby sijepuis » Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:30 pm

<br>From the BBC article:<br><br>"But Professor Nicholas Humphrey rejects the idea that there is a "gene" for bipedalism, or upright walking".<br><br>Oh, no kidding?!<br><br>My bs-ometer reads <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>max</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. <br><br><br>From a review of Humphrey's book 'Leaps of Faith: Science, Miracles and the Search for the Supernatural Consolation' in the New Scientist:<br><br>"An urbane, original, convincing rebuttal of paranormal and supernatural notions. <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>It should be read by all religious persons, by anyone who believes in horoscopes or paranormally bent cutlery, and by sceptics who support Richard Dawkins's biology-based atheism, but dislike his abrasive style".</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>__________________________________________<br><br><br>We'd do better to question the underlying science and the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>implications</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> of disseminating such 'phenomena', at this moment in time, IMO. <br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Daily Mail:Time-warped family walk on all fours

Postby thumperton » Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:32 pm

what if this turns out like that story about the 40 midgets taking on the lion <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.smiliesftw.com/!/redface.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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time warped family on all fours.

Postby mother » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:47 pm

I'm not thinking it's a hoax that they get around like that. And I'll bet they can go pretty fast, too. I just don't see how these poor guys prove anything except neglect,poverty, disease, who knows mabe a touch of Saddam's House Blend of Kurd Gas(P.U.!) I don't see any reason to believe they are living dinosaurs, though. <p></p><i></i>
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I'll See Your "Evolution" and Raise You....

Postby Floyd Smoots » Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:42 am

....A Creator God who, in his Holy, Godly Heart, loves every single one of His creations, in His own unique way. I even buy into the "holographic universe" theories, as a possiblity, but that in no way proves, that if the universe is truly holographic, that Almighty God did not create it that way.<br><br>What a lot of you scientific-minded, rigorous intuitors Love to Forget, is that in science's "Renaissance Period", Godly, believing scientists, like Gallileo, Coppernicus, and Isaac Newton, never doubted for a moment, that God created the universe. They were merely curious as to what the physical rules were, that He had used to set it up to run upon.<br><br>But, that's just my opinion, I could be right. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I'll See Your "Evolution" and Raise You....

Postby JerkyLeBoeuf » Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:12 am

Which God might you be referring to, exactly? There are so many to choose from. <p></p><i></i>
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Easy Question, Easy Answer....

Postby Floyd Smoots » Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:23 am

....Jerky, that would be the all-powerful COTU FOY KOKALOL!!! You know how those God-types, and military-types just Love their acronyms!!! And no, you don't have to dig out your old, dusty, dogeared Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles secret-agent-spy-decoder-ring to figure it out. As an old time code-breaker, I'll give you the "cheat sheet" answer. Here it is. The acronym stands for:<br><br>Creator Of The Universe, Father Of Yeshua, King Of Kings And Lord Of Lords. Just so's ya know, y'know???<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Easy Question, Easy Answer....

Postby JerkyLeBoeuf » Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:25 am

But Christianity is all watered down astrotheology and plagiarized Sumerian and Egyptian mythology. There's a very good chance Jesus didn't even exist. How can you put your faith in something like that? <p></p><i></i>
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....Jist Cuz....

Postby Floyd Smoots » Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:29 am

Ah'm stoopid'ner thin yu??? sum uv us r y'know??? <p></p><i></i>
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FYI

Postby anotherdrew » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:24 am

when you point at your God, three fingers point back at your self. <p></p><i></i>
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