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Morgellons on Primetime tonight

Postby AlanStrangis » Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:35 pm

Not usually a fan of Primetime but...<br><br>August 9th, 2006<br>10 pm Eastern on ABC's Primetime.<br><br>PS: sorry if this is a re-post. I just got back from two weeks of relaxing in Manitoba. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Morgellons on Primetime tonight

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:19 pm

I had no idea it was coming on as I rarely watch TV(especially news), but I look forward to trying to catch it, cheers. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: Morgellons on Primetime tonight

Postby AlanStrangis » Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:19 am

In the end, it wasn't anything new for most posters here, though they did say that the fibers were compared to the FBI database of over 100,000 types with no match.<br><br>I had read on the "anti-Morgellons" blog that it was only 800...<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Morgellons on Primetime tonight

Postby StarmanSkye » Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:27 am

"...though they did say that the fibers were compared to the FBI database of over 100,000 types with no match."<br><br>Uhm, correction: That was 10,000 fibers in the FBI database that the suspect fibers didn't match.<br><br>Sure got MY attention.<br><br>As did the absurdity of so-called doctors making public on-air diagnosis of patients and symptoms they haven't even seen.<br><br>Surprisingly, the issue was treated with a good measure of respect, and some good information was presented.<br><br>Recall, tho, the one high muckety-muck 'Doctor' who discounted morgollons although he's never even examined patients afflicted or so much as looked at the fiber evidence <br>-- what's THAT all about: Gatekeeping, or professional snobbery, or??? Talk about conceited 'can't show ME anything new!' arrogance. <br><br>What's VERY bizarre is how morgollons seems to have attributes of fungus, virus, bacteria, rash, mold, moles, warts, scabs, boils, gout, and whatnot.<br><br>A mutated, opportunistic environmental parasite-disease organism?<br><br>Not untypically, like many new, previously unknown mysteries in science, much serious examination and discovery breakthroughs are being led by doctors and scientists from outside the most relevant medical and disease specialist fields (as if the experts are too intimidated by an unknown something that baffles them that they'd rather deny it can exist under their very noses, and so the patients MUST be suffering a psychosomatic delusion).<br><br>Not being taken seriously by one's doctor and the medical profession in-general brings with it enormous stress, anxiety, frustration and depression-- which tends to magnify suffering.<br>Whatever the fact of this condition or disease, I sure empathize with what the victims are going thru.<br><br>(I expect Tea Tree Oil, Olive Leaf extract, Tiger Balm/Balsam, Wintergreen/Peppermint, Vitamin E, Aloe Vera, Garlic Concentrate and DMSO have been tried by numerous sufferers -- But they'd be what I'd probably start with. I'm sort-of curious about non-alternative Asian/Chinese treatments, including accupuncture.<br><br>Seems morgollon's could well be linked to a compromised immune system -- so anything to vitalize one's own immune system (like juicing) would be, could be, of great benefit.<br><br>What about possible benefit of whole-body/mind spiritual healing Rituals like the Native American Church wuth Peyote, and South American Ayuasco (among others) practices?<br><br>Starman <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Morgellons on Primetime tonight

Postby dranek7 » Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:39 am

Did anyone else notice that the story, according to the show's host, was a re-run. The CDC is now beginning to look into the cases probably because enough people became aware of the morgellon phenomenon and alerted their doctors. I think that in time, the identification and proper medical classification will come out. Remember, AIDS was initially called GRID because scientists and doctors could not look past the actions of a few patients and realize that it had the potential to infect anyone. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Morgellons on Primetime tonight

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:31 am

Melaluca (Tea/ti tree) tree oil is good for all sorts of skin conditions and bacterial infections and things. I use it as an antiseptic most of the time, and to kill ticks, and some of the other festy things you get in the bush, many that may not have been "discovered" by the west yet.<br><br>Having a bath in lemon tea tree is awesome and clears up all sorts of things, I wonder if it would help morgellons. I usually have a bath in the juice of the lemon tea tree, armfull of leaves and minor branch twigs, with the bark on them, boiled in a huge pot of water for 3 or 4 hours, then dumped in the bath. I actually do that in winter for colds and flu, but it apparantly leaves my skin looking really smooth and clear.<br><br>My wife reckons its great. And it makes her skin look awesome.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Might be worth a go, it sure <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>feels</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> healthy.<br><br>Thanks to Tule/Anto of the Bundjalung for that little piece of info.<br><br>I also heard from a lecturer (probably retired now) Uncle Ron Heron, that when he was young the women used to burn to ash apple gums (dunno the scientific name), specifically branches and leaves (with bark I assume) the little ones at the end. They would put the white ash from this plant onto any ringworm infection the kids got. I have never had to use that thankfully.<br><br>I wonder if that would help with morgellons?<br><br>I have heard there are heaps of weedy eucalyptus in California, originally from Oz, and I saw photos of gum trees when there were those serious fires in San Diego a few years ago, flooded gums I think. (E Grandis)<br>'<br>Might be worth finding out if there's any truth in that and if there are any potentially useful medicine species, like apple gums.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Morgellons on Primetime tonight

Postby AlanStrangis » Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:09 pm

The typo is my bad... that's what I get for trying to use my PDA to post to message boards... <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Recall, tho, the one high muckety-muck 'Doctor' who discounted morgollons although he's never even examined patients afflicted or so much as looked at the fiber evidence<br>-- what's THAT all about: Gatekeeping, or professional snobbery, or???<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Every time he spoke, that doctor sounded like he was trying to keep the gate from swinging open. My girlfriend, who had never heard of Morgellons before other than a link I sent her, was flabergasted at his opinionating on something he never investigated.<br><br>I don't know what to expect of the CDC investigation. It'll definitely be interesting to see what they have to say.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Morgellons on Primetime tonight

Postby Iroquois » Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:01 pm

Joe,<br><br>My Mom's favorite remedy for worms was wormwood tea. So much so, she forced that awful tasting brew down our throats on a regular basis, especially in Summer. I did a quick search, and found that it does a lot more good that just killing parasites. Maybe it would be a good remedy to try as well.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Recently chemists from the Division of Experimental Therapeutics, part of the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research in Washington DC, have begun to conduct their own lengthy investigations into sweet wormwood's ability to reduce fevers by killing intestinal parasites causing them. The previously mentioned tincture may be used here for internal purposes. Using an eye-dropper, put 10 drops of tincture in with 1 tsp. of dark honey or blackstrap molasses. Mix well before eating. The honey or molasses helps to alleviate the bitter taste of the tincture.<br><br>Crush a handful of fresh wormwood leaves into a soggy pulp, then mix in with some apple cider vinegar. Next put a small amount of this wet mixture in a 6-inch square piece of gauze. Draw up the end comers together and tie at the top. Then rub the skin thoroughly with this to keep horseflies, mosquitoes and gnats away from you while outdoors. The same mixture can also be rubbed directly onto household pets to keep flies, fleas and ticks away from them.<br><br>A study published in a recent issue of Planta Medica points out that species of wormwood have been employed on a clinical basis for the treatment of hepatitis and to protect the liver from lesions produced by the ingestion of harmful chemicals. Another journal (Chern. Phann. Bulletin) noted that wormwood is an important remedy for treatment of jaundice and inflammation of the gallbladder (cholecystitis). A tea might prove useful in these instances. Bring 2 cups of water to a boil. Remove from the heat and add 4 tsp. leaves or tops. Cover and steep until slightly lukewarm. Drink in 1/2-cup amounts morning, noon and night on an empty stomach. Sweeten with a little pure maple syrup to allay some of the bitterness. Or take 2 capsules of the powder twice daily for these problems, but on an intermittent basis. Remember that wormwood is an herbal medication, as are goldenseal root, chaparral and some of the other medicinal herbs. And they should be used with care only when needed, and not taken indiscriminately.<br><br>Wormwood is a wonderful bitter tonic - in fact it is one of the most bitter herbs used in herbal medicine. Wormwood stimulates the appetite, and enhances digestion by increasing the secretion of digestive enzymes and bile from the liver and gallbladder and stimulating peristalsis. Wormwood can be used to expel worms, as its name suggests. Wormwood is an excellent remedy for those with weak, sluggish digestion, toxins and congestion in the gut, liver problems, those feeling run down and debilitated and during convalescence. The chamazulene in the volatile oil has an anti-inflammatory effect in the digestive tract.<br><br>Wormwood is a useful herb for treating fevers and infections. Wormwood boosts the immune system, detoxifies the body and clears heat and congestion. Wormwood can be taken in hot infusion (best mixed with mint to make it more palatable) for colds and flu, chronic fevers, food poisoning, catarrh, skin problems and arthritis. Throughout history wormwood has been a favourite herb used by women to stimulate uterine contractions during childbirth. Wormwood is particularly beneficial when the birth is slow in getting going and contractions are weak and ineffectual. Wormwood can also be used to bring on delayed or suppressed menstruation due to stagnation in the uterus, and for painful periods. Its diuretic action is useful for any fluid retention around period time.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>From: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.herbs2000.com/herbs/herbs_wormwood.htm">www.herbs2000.com/herbs/h...rmwood.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Morgellons on Primetime tonight

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:03 pm

Wormwood sounds awesome. No wonder you can't get it here in the states. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: Morgellons on Primetime tonight

Postby Iroquois » Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:53 pm

Get it? Heck, we grew it. It also grows wild now in much of Michigan. I'd be surprised if you couldn't buy it though, too. I've never heard of it being restricted. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Morgellons on Primetime tonight

Postby StarmanSkye » Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:21 pm

WoW -- Wormwood DOES sound like an excellant herb to be familiar with and have on hand -- useful as a liver-and-gut cleanse and digestion-stimulant (not to be used casually) as well as a parasite treatment -- think I'll get some to help keep my dawg healthy (I had to deworm him recently, used the standard pet-medicine).<br><br>Capsules and tinctures are apparently available at good herb stores; Found several internet sources, including:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://shop.toolsforhealing.com/category_s/31.htm">shop.toolsforhealing.com/...y_s/31.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Also, offering several parasite-treatment compounds using wormwood, cloves and black walnut.<br><br>So I don't guess wormwood is a regulated substance (yet!!!)<br>But among 'regulated' natural foods and herbs, Sassafras is also a good tonic and digestive aid that I heard the FDA had banned sales of. It makes a GREAT, soothing and tasty tea. Dunno if that's true.<br><br>Starman <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Morgellons on Primetime tonight

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:24 pm

Sorry, it's banned in the use of alcoholic beverages like Absinthe, but I don't ever recall seeing it available in herbal remedy stores probably cause I didn't expect to find it.<br><br>*shrugs* <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: Morgellons on Primetime tonight

Postby Seamus OBlimey » Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:56 pm

Dunno much about Morgellans but I reckon a bottle of absinthe would help anyone deal with it, if only temporarily. Yep it's still legal here in Yerp. Call me naive but nicotine and alcohol seem to keep me free of parasites. Bees, wasps, fleas and most bugs seem to avoid me while terrorising others (as do most people but that's another thread...)<br><br>There must be something in the ancient remedies or they wouldn't be remembered. Do we need a trained GP to tell us what?<br><br>The ongoing search for a cannabis treatment really cracks me up. They are spending millions trying to refine an active ingredient from the intoxicant without realising they're one and the same. Because they can't patent freedom.<br><br>Eat weeds! Outsmoke adversaries, Drink and be Merry!<br><br>But please don't Drive!<br> <p></p><i></i>
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