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Re: Too wierd - Thompson and Cremo

Postby wolf pauli » Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:52 pm

BTW, Thompson and Cremo's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Forbidden Archeology</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, also mentioned by slimmouse (and published by Govardan Hill of the Krishna Consciousness Movement), is reviewed at the talkorigins site by paleoanthropologist Colin Groves: <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/groves.html">www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/groves.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"... A book like this, simply because it is superficially scholarly and not outright trash like all the Christian creationist works I have read, might indeed make a useful deconstructionist exercise for an archaeology or palaeoanthropology class. ..."<br><br>According to Groves' archaeologist colleague Dr. Andrée Rosenfeld, "What is curious is that an essentially religious organisation feels the need to justify themselves by recourse to science - but their discourse is scientistic, not scientific", to which Groves adds "In this, they are no different from any other creationists."<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Ed Leedskalnin

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:13 pm

<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.world-mysteries.com./coral_edswheel.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Ed Leedskalnin's magnetic wheel is much much more then people perceive it to be. <br>It is designed according to nature.It produces both Positive (North) and Negative (South) magnetic currents , and those two currents run according to natures design also. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.world-mysteries.com/coralcastle.htm" target="top">www.world-mysteries.com/coralcastle.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.agilitynut.com/p/edl.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Leedskalnin claimed he knew the secrets of magnetism which the ancient Egyptians used to build the pyramids. He disputed contemporary science and believed all matter consisted of magnets. He said he had “re-discovered the laws of weight, measurement, and leverage” and that these concepts “involved the relationship of the Earth to celestial alignments.” He spoke of seeing “beads of light” which he believed to be the physical presence of nature’s magnetism – what many today call “chi”. He boasted that he could “chase mosquitos away with this concentrated look.”<br><br>Many think Leedskalnin had discovered the secret of levitation and used it to move the coral blocks. In fact, there is an account of teenagers who spied on him and reported that he floated coral blocks “through the air like hydrogen balloons.” The 9-ton swinging gate is thought by many to be over a vortex (energy sensitive people report headaches while standing inside the arch). Some believe that this area of South Florida is connected to the Bermuda Triangle (a powerful diamagnetic levitator).<br><br>Celestial and mystical imagery abounds in his sculptures which are aligned with the moon and sun. A series of concentric coral circles is said to represent the solar system. There is an incredibly accurate sundial. The coral blocks fit together with amazing accuracy though constructed without cement. Several locations have six-pointed stars – some say it is the Latvian Star while others think it is the Star of David and that Ed may have fled Latvia to escape religious persecution.<br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://fcit.usf.edu/florida/photos/recreate/tour/coral/coral2/photos/coral221.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>The Nine-Ton Gate at Coral Castle. Among the greatest technical acheivements of Coral Castle is this enormously heavy gate that can be opened and closed using only one finger. Ed accomplished this by finding the stone's exact center of balance. How he did this remains a mystery, as even the most advanaced electronic analysis equipment could not aid in balancing the stone.<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://fcit.usf.edu/florida/photos/recreate/tour/coral/coral2/coral221.htm" target="top">fcit.usf.edu/florida/photos/recreate/tour/coral/coral2/coral221.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Ed Leedskalnin

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:04 pm

Usually overlooked by visitors is a low but massive altar comprising two coral blocks set against the south wall. To what god or gods it was dedicated, no one knows<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.parascope.com/en/articles/coralCastle03.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>...<br><br>Leedskalnin was a fanatic for secrecy and worked only after sundown, when he was certain no one was watching him. If anyone did stop by to inquire how he was getting along, he would immediately stop working and chat pleasantly with visitors until they left, when he would resume construction. When we consider that he cut, moved, and positioned all of the structure's megalithic blocks in the dead of night, the man's achievement assumes a truly incredible scale. Some teenagers spying on him one evening claimed they saw him "float coral blocks through the air like hydrogen balloons," but no one took them seriously. If their testimony can be believed, they were the only witnesses to the construction of Coral Castle.<br><br>In 1936, when developers threatened to set up a subdivision near Florida City, Leedskalnin bought ten acres in nearby Homestead with money saved through years of performing odd jobs for neighboring farmers. He dismantled the largely finished Castle and transferred it block by block to the new location. Each piece was placed on a pair of iron girders mounted on a makeshift truck chassis and transported over ten miles to Homestead.<br><br>For this major operation, he relied on outside help for the first and last time. He hired a tractor, but insisted that its driver not be present whenever the blocks were placed on his truck. The driver showed up at 9:00 every morning, returning in late afternoon to find the chassis loaded with coral monoliths.<br><br>Once, the driver absentmindedly returned after less than half an hour for a lunchpail he had forgotten on the seat of the tractor. He was astounded to see several multi-ton stones already laid neatly on the girders. "It was impossible to have stacked those gigantic blocks in under 30 minutes," he recalled, "even with a steam-powered derrick. And Ed had no equipment, just a simple tackle and chain hoist. Yet, there they were, piled like cord wood." Their mysterious mover was nowhere in sight, and the driver, somewhat apprehensive, left before Leedskalnin returned.<br><br>...<br><br>Like the enigmas of its construction, its real function is unknown. Why did he make so many sculpted references and astronomical orientations to the heavens? For whom were 25 half-ton rocking chairs designed? To what or whom was his barbaric altar dedicated? What need could have demanded so massive a complex as Coral Castle? And why did Edward Leedskalnin devote his whole life to it?<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.parascope.com/en/articles/coralCastle.htm" target="top">www.parascope.com/en/articles/coralCastle.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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re: More gravity-defying levitation building techniques

Postby Starman » Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:07 am

Geez, talk about synchronicity ...<br>I recall seeing an info reference to the building of Coral Castles on some other website or discussion forum in the last coupla days, but not knowing the significance didn't follow-up onnit -- definitely high-weird fascinating. While looking for more info on anti-gravity I came across the following details of the supposed use of acoustic-levitation technology in ancient and early 20th century buildings, including an engineer's evaluation that Leedskalnin's feat might have involved molecular harmonic resonance, related to the acoustic techniques described. Elsewhere, I've found tentative suggestions that gravitation and electromagnetism share the unique property of harmonic correspondence as evident in musical, scientific and mathematical patterns.<br>Starman<br>***<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/gravity2.htm">ourworld.compuserve.com/h...avity2.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Levitation and Technology: Myths and megaliths <br> The megalithic structures found at many sites around the world have generated endless controversy as to how they were built. Conventional archaeologists, who dismiss the possibility of highly advanced civilizations in the remote past, insist that they were built solely with the use of primitive tools and brute force. Some of the structures, or parts of them, could have been built in this way. However, a number of engineers have stated that some features would be difficult if not impossible to duplicate today, even using the most advanced technology. The sheer weight and size of some of the stone blocks have prompted several researchers to wonder whether the ancient builders had mastered some form of levitation technology.* <br><br>*The acoustic and magnetic levitation techniques currently under development by mainstream scientists create a physical lifting force stronger than the force of gravity and do not modify gravity or generate an antigravitational force. <br><br> The pre-Incan fortresses at Ollantaytambo and Sacsayhuaman in the Peruvian Andes consist of cyclopean walls constructed from tight-fitting polygonal stone blocks, some weighing 120 tonnes or more. The blocks used at Ollantaytambo were somehow transported from a quarry located on another mountaintop 11 km away, the descent from which was impeded by a river canyon with 305-metre vertical rock walls. The ruins of Tiahuanaco (Tiwanaku) near Lake Titicaca in Bolivia include blocks weighing around 100 tonnes, which were transported from quarries 50 km away.1 According to the local Aymara Indians, the complex was built at the ‘beginning of time’ by the founder-god Viracocha and his followers, who caused the stones to be ‘carried through the air to the sound of a trumpet’. An alternative theme is that they created a ‘heavenly fire’ that consumed the stones and enabled large blocks to be lifted by hand ‘as if they were cork’. According to a Mayan legend, the temple complex of Uxmal in the Yucatan Peninsula was built by a race of dwarfs who were able to move heavy rocks into place by whistling.2<br><br> Legends of occult power being employed to lift and transport stone blocks are in fact universal. For example, according to tradition the megalithic city of Nan Madol on the Micronesian island of Pohnpei was built by the god-kings Olosopa and Olosipa, who used magic spells to make the huge stones ‘fly through the air like birds’.3 Legends about the huge stone statues or moai on Easter Island, many of which are as high as a three-storey building, tell how magicians or priests used mana, or mind power, to make them ‘walk’, or float through the air.4 <br><br> According to early Greek historians, the walls of the ancient city of Thebes were built by Amphion, a son of Jupiter, who moved the large stones ‘to the music of his harp’ while his ‘songs drew even stones and beasts after him’. Another version claims that when he played ‘loud and clear on his golden lyre, rock twice as large followed in his footsteps’. The 10th-century Arab historian Mas’di wrote that, to build the pyramids, the ancient Egyptians inserted papyri inscribed with certain characters beneath the stone blocks; they were then struck by an instrument, producing a sound which caused them to rise into the air and travel for a distance of over 86 metres.5 <br><br> The achievements of the ancient Egyptian builders have caused even some fairly orthodox investigators to wonder whether levitation might have been employed.6 For instance the roof of the King’s Chamber in the Great Pyramid, 200 feet up, consists of huge granite beams weighing up to 70 tonnes. What’s more, the major temples on the Giza plateau – the two next to the Sphinx and those besides the Second and Third Pyramids – contain colossal limestone blocks weighing between 50 and 200 tonnes and placed on top of one another. The largest are 9 metres long, 3.6 metres wide and 3.6 metres high. It is interesting to note that there are only a few cranes in the world today capable of lifting objects weighing 200 tonnes or more.7 <br><br> The largest blocks used in any known man-made structure are found in the ancient platform beneath the Roman Temple of Jupiter at Baalbek in Lebanon.8 The foundation platform is enclosed by a cyclopean retaining wall; in the western side, on the fifth level, at a height of 10 metres, there are three colossal stones known as the Trilithon, each measuring about 19.5 metres long, 4.5 metres high and 3.5 metres deep, and weighing a staggering 1000 tonnes. The stones fit together perfectly and not even a knife blade can be pushed between them. At the quarry, half a kilometre away, there remains a fourth, even larger block, weighing as much as 1200 tonnes, the lower part of its base still attached to the bedrock. The course beneath the Trilithon contains seven mammoth stones weighing about 450 tonnes each. <br><br> There are no traces of a roadbed leading from the quarry and no traces of any ramp. Nor are there any written records as to how the platform was built. According to local Arab legend, Baalbek’s first citadel was built before the Flood, and rebuilt afterwards by a race of giants. The Phoenician historian Sanchoniatho stated that Lebanon’s first city was Byblos, founded by the god Ouranus, who designed cyclopean structures and was able to make stones move as if they had a life of their own. <br>(Fig. 5.3 The ‘Stone of the South’ still in the quarry at Baalbek.)<br><br>Among the Tibetans <br> Evidence that worldwide legends of acoustic levitation might have a basis in fact, was provided by the Swedish engineer Henry Kjellson, who in the 1950s recorded the experiences of two separate western travellers who had allegedly witnessed demonstrations of sonic technology in Tibet.1 Since neither of the following accounts can be verified, sceptics assume that Kjellson probably made them up himself. <br><br> During a visit to a Tibetan monastery situated southwest of the capital Lhasa, the Swede Dr Jarl was taken to a meadow where there was a high cliff to the northwest. About 250 metres up the face of the cliff was an entrance to a cave, in front of which was a wide ledge where monks were building a stone wall. Embedded in the ground 250 metres from the foot of the cliff, was a large rock slab with a bowl-shaped depression in it. A block of stone, 1.5 metres long, 1 metre wide, and 1 metre high, was manhandled into the depression. Monks with 19 musical instruments, consisting of 13 drums and 6 very long trumpets, were arranged in an arc of about 90 degrees, 63 metres from the bowl-stone. The drums, open at one end, were aimed at the stone block. Behind each instrument was a line of monks eight to ten deep. A monk in the middle of the arc started chanting and beating out a rhythm on a small drum, and then the other instruments joined in. After four minutes, the large stone block began to wobble and floated into the air rocking from side to side. All the instruments were trained constantly on the stone as it rose upwards at an accelerating rate and finally crashed onto the ledge. The monks continued to perform this feat at the rate of 5 or 6 stones per hour. The role of the 200 or so monks behind the instruments was unclear: one suggestion is that they used some form of coordinated psychokinesis to aid the flight of the stone. <br>(Fig. 5.4 Dr Jarl’s sketch showing how Tibetan monks were able to raise stone blocks into the air using the power of sound.)<br><br> The second case involved an Austrian named Linauer, who stated that while at a remote monastery in northern Tibet during the 1930s, he had witnessed the demonstration of two curious sound instruments which could induce weightlessness in stone blocks. The first was an extremely large gong, 3.5 metres in diameter, composed of a central circular area of very soft gold, followed by a ring of pure iron, and finally a ring of extremely hard brass. When struck, it produced an extremely low dumph which ceased almost immediately. <br><br>The second instrument was also composed of three different metals; it had a half-oval shape like a mussel shell, and measured 2 metres long and 1 metre wide, with strings stretched longitudinally over its hollow surface. Linauer was told that it emitted an inaudible resonance wave when the gong was struck. The two devices were used in conjunction with a pair of large screens, positioned so as to form a triangular configuration with them. When the gong was struck with a large club to produce a series of brief, low-frequency sounds, a monk was able to lift a heavy stone block with just one hand. Linauer was informed that this was how their ancestors had built protective walls around Tibet, and that such devices could also disintegrate physical matter. <br><br>Keely and Leedskalnin <br> A man who appears to have gone a long way to unlocking the secrets of sound was John Ernst Worrell Keely of Philadelphia (1827-189<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> . He spent 50 years developing and refining a wide variety of devices that used ‘sympathetic vibratory force’ or ‘etheric force’ to levitate objects, spin large wheels, power engines, and disintegrate rock. He performed many convincing demonstrations in his laboratory for scientists and other interested observers. He attempted to put his apparatus into commercial production, but this was hampered by the fact that it had to be tuned to the bodily vibrations of the operator and also to the surroundings.1 <br><br> Keely built several devices to manipulate gravity.12 One of them was the ‘sympathetic transmitter’, a copper globe about one foot (30 cm) in diameter, containing a Chladni plate and various metal tubes, whose position could be adjusted by means of a knob. The globe was held by a metal stand, around the base of which projected small metal rods a few inches long, of different sizes and lengths, which vibrated like tuning forks when twanged by the fingers. In one experiment, the transmitter was connected by a wire made of gold, platinum, and silver to the top of a water-filled glass jar. When the right chord was sounded on the strings of a zither, metal balls, weighing 2 pounds (0.9 kg), rose from the bottom of the jar until they hit the metal cap, and remained there until a different note was played which caused them to sink again. Witnesses relate how, after further experimentation, Keely was able to make heavy steel balls move in the air by simply playing on a kind of mouth organ. Using the same combination of transmitter, connecting cord, and musical instrument, he was able to make a 3.6-kg model of an airship rise into the air, descend, or hover with a motion ‘as gentle as that of thistledown’. He was also able to lift extremely heavy weights by connecting them to vibratory appliances worn on his person; several people witnessed him levitate and move a 3-tonne cast-iron sphere in this way, and also make it heavier so that it sank into the ground as if into mud. <br><br> Keely was able to catalyze the vibratory force necessary to make objects move using a variety of musical instruments, including trumpets, horns, harmonicas, fiddles, and zithers, and could even operate the equipment just by whistling. One sceptic, however, claimed that Keely did not play on an instrument to set up sympathetic vibration but to signal to a confederate in another part of the building when to turn on or off the compressed air that supposedly powered his ‘fraudulent’ devices! <br><br>... From the remaining contents of Leedskalnin’s workshop and photographic evidence, engineer Chris Dunn suggests that he generated a radio signal that caused the coral to vibrate at its resonant frequency, and then used an electromagnetic field to flip the magnetic poles of the atoms so that they were repulsed by the earth’s magnetic field. <br><br>(Site features another view of the nine-ton gate at Coral Castle, as well as numerous photos/illustrations of sites featuring apparant gravity-defying techniques employing acoustic resonance.)<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Harmonics and Gravity.

Postby slimmouse » Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:06 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>However, a number of engineers have stated that some features would be difficult if not impossible to duplicate today, even using the most advanced technology<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Enter the Lehners of this world, along with various other archeologists,and scientist who in my view are steering people where they want you to look ( whether deliberately or inadvertently) - out of which also spring the evolutionists. <br><br> This was precisely what Cremo and Thompson eluded to in their book forbidden archeology. In fact they actually say as much in their introduction. <br><br> Namely that despite using all the "accepted" scientific criteria for dating techniques and all the rest of it, those people whose evidence contradicts the "official" thinking, is conveniently swept under the carpet. <br><br> Not only that, officials refusing to tow this line, even in the world of archeology and the like find themselves losing their posts, and "outside the loop"<br><br> Where have any of us seen that before ? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> Tesla had a lot of this stuff sorted IMO. This was my reference on another thread to "free energy", rather than links to a host of machines and people claiming to have made them. I didnt notice Tesla's name amongst those <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> Perhaps ive just become too cynical <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Harmonics and Gravity.

Postby wolf pauli » Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:53 am

"Perhaps ive just become too cynical"<br><br>Perhaps you should just learn something about science before attempting to discuss it. <p></p><i></i>
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If you know your history.

Postby slimmouse » Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:33 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Perhaps you should just learn something about science before attempting to discuss it.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br> You are of course correct. Science isnt my bag. History is. Or at least I thought it was. <br><br> Having graduated in the subject, looking at any number of topics from the US civil war to communism, I now must shamefully admit that most of what I read about those subjects was nothing but a pile of gunk.<br><br> Did i graduate with honours ? Sure I did.<br><br> How so, if I was writing falehoods and lies ?<br><br> Easy. I was citing the "officially" accepted interpretations peddled by "accepted academics". Furthermore, I could cite any number of "official" documentaries, news sources and experts from the BBC and others <br><br> I didnt personally know at the time that I was writing falsehoods and out and out lies. But I qualified.<br><br> I then became qualified as a teacher, based upon my interpretations of history. Had i chosen that career, I would now be probably stood in front of a classroom telling children about how 9/11 was an act of terrorism, and how the US are the good guys.<br><br> Only through a process of (much later in life) analysing what the "unnoficial experts" on history have said, having been fortunate enough to find both the time, and capability to actually access their writings, does the world now begin to make much more <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Logical</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> sense.<br><br> Thus, I hope you can forgive me today, when , confronted by the "official" versions of science, and two conflicting stories arise from two sets of genuine experts in their field - The "official" expert about whom we hear absolutely everything in the MMS, and the "unnoficial expert" who might get his 15 minutes of fame once aweek at 3 am in the morning, I am all too prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to the "alternative" view.<br><br> At least to give the alternative guy his voice. And at least form my own conclusions and opinions based upon a reasonable cross section of evidence, instead of that which has been drilled into my brain.<br><br> Call this cynicism a legacy of my own personal experiences. Its part of "my baggage." <p></p><i></i>
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If you know YOUR history

Postby wolf pauli » Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:55 pm

"<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Thus, I hope you can forgive me today, when , confronted by the "official" versions of science, and two conflicting stories arise from two sets of genuine experts in their field - The "official" expert about whom we hear absolutely everything in the MMS, and the "unnoficial expert" who might get his 15 minutes of fame once aweek at 3 am in the morning, I am all too prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to the "alternative" view.<br><br>At least to give the alternative guy his voice.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->"<br><br>Do you have the slightest idea whose company you're voluntarily placing yourself in? "The alternative guy" -- in this case <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>the creationist</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> -- has been given more than "his voice"; he's largely been given his <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>agenda</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> in the most powerful nation in the world, and to the detriment of us all. If you're looking for a sympathetic hearing, you'll surely find it, but probably not here. Forgive my <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>ad hominem</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, but when you encourage me to read a "genuine expert in the field" such as Harun Yahya, a <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>non</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->-scientist (he has a degree in arts) whose accomplishments also happen to include Holocaust denial, you can expect to be told that I don't suffer fools gladly. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: just learn something about science

Postby bindare » Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:22 pm

It astounds me that people who are normally sceptical of politicians, etc, etc, can be so gullible when it comes to science and engineering. I posted earlier some links on free energy, perpetual motion, etc, so at a minimum an advocate of free energy, levitation, etc should be able to debunk these sites. Not one single attempt so far. <br><br>If you like Coral Castle, you will absolutely love Ripley's Believe It Or Not; especially the water faucet with the water running up defying gravity. These are great places to take kids because it challenges them to think behind the obvious. There is a lot of wonderment there, but it is in the science and engineering "how did they do that?", not in magic or magick, or alien technology, or some such quasi-explanation. <p></p><i></i>
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Not a man with a white robe and a beard.

Postby slimmouse » Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:59 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Do you have the slightest idea whose company you're voluntarily placing yourself in? "The alternative guy" -- in this case the creationist<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br><br> You obviously havent read what Ive said throughout this thread.<br><br> When I speak of creationism, it has nothing to do with a man in a white robe with a beard.<br><br> Rather something far more tangible.<br><br> As for evolution;<br><br> If evolution is such a sound premise, then exactly where is the Missing link ?<br><br> If natural selection is such a sound theory, then exactly why does a maggot need to transform into a supermaggot or should i say butterfly, and why arent we surrounded with exhibits of this mutation from fish into lizards into apes into man ?<br><br> Where are the skeletal remains of all of these "halfway house" creatures ?<br><br> I just dont buy it. Its my personal opinion - nothing more nothing less . The whole thing STINKS. <br><br> Finally, Does the fact that I personally know nothing of science prohibit me from quoting people who do ?<br><br> Meanwhile;<br><br> Why are perfect metal cubes found in coal faces which are HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of years old ?<br><br> How the hell DID the Dogones know about Sirrius b and c ?<br><br> How about the Zulus, or the Babylonians, or the Egyptians who also knew about Sirrius b and c.<br><br> I heard a smashing theory somewhere about this knowledge being due to cultural crosscontamination.<br><br> Reminds me of some of the hideous explanations of the "official" version of 9/11, where a 157ft wide aircraft just CAN dissapear into a 13ft gap. <p></p><i></i>
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Epistrophy

Postby wolf pauli » Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:32 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"You obviously havent read what Ive said throughout this thread."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>As Thelonious Monk said, "Bye-Ya". <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: Epistrophy

Postby bindare » Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:16 pm

wp, i like your style and your reference to monk. <br><br>Epistrophy: <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The concrete use of language stripped of all but the essence of meaning, cutting through irrelevance and abstraction</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Thanks bindare

Postby wolf pauli » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:24 pm

Sometimes it's possible to communicate quite effectively in titles of Monk tunes. Two more that come to mind in this context are "Reflections" and "Evidence"; the best antidote to tendentious pseudo-science is more of the first on the second.<br><br>And with the summer heat coming on, I'd add: "Let's Cool One". <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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