Maddox on 'Loose Change'

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Maddox on 'Loose Change'

Postby orz » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:31 pm

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Re: Maddox on 'Loose Change'

Postby KeenInsight » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:54 pm

Read it before. He even has a link to Popular Mechanics, poor guy. <p></p><i></i>
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Honestly...

Postby FourthBase » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:06 pm

I thought the Loose Change Guide guy had, amidst the usual debunker bullshit, some good criticisms of Loose Change. I wish a real conspiracy theorist would do a critique of Loose Change, sifting the wheat from the chaff. <p></p><i></i>
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I agree.

Postby slimmouse » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:50 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I thought the Loose Change Guide guy had, amidst the usual debunker bullshit, some good criticisms of Loose Change. I wish a real conspiracy theorist would do a critique of Loose Change, sifting the wheat from the chaff<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> I agree. Ive heard that loose change 2 has some 81 factual flaws in it, for all of its how many thousand facts.<br><br> All that said wouldnt it be great if we could stand Loose change up against Bushes 2003 SOTU speech ?<br><br> Anyone found a single truth in that speech ?<br><br> It comes down to who we trust<br><br> Hats off to<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> 22 year old</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Dylan Avery. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Honestly...

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:55 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"I wish a real conspiracy theorist would do a critique of Loose Change, sifting the wheat from the chaff."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>FourthBase, have you see this:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/loose_change/introduction.html">Sifting Through Loose Change</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Honestly...

Postby streeb » Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:32 am

My 20 year old sister-in-law is nuts for Maddox, and I like him too. She forwarded his 9/11 piece to me. In the half hour or so that I had to make breakfast for me and the kid, and get ready for work, I put together an email explaining to her (as best as I could at the time) about straw men, and Maddox's less-than-watertight thinking on this issue, gave her my opinion of Loose Change, told her all about Mockingbird, and Chertoff, and put together a rough compendium of things that Maddox should think about (Mineta, NORAD, the Cheney-Bush handholding session during the Commission, Able Danger, the role of the ISI, the put options, the hard drives, Indira Singh, Sibel Edmonds... as much as I could while I was in a hurry) and finally told her that I think Maddox is great when he's attacking Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith or the smell of lady-farts, but is way out of his depth with 9/11.<br><br>She forwarded my email to Maddox. I wasn't expecting that. And I certainly wasn't expecting a reply...<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Even if I was completely wrong about Loose Change, which I'm not, there are too many questions, too many variables, not enough evidence, and no satisfactory motive.<br>I mean, these theorists are literally sitting around watching grainy video stills all day long, instead of asking questions like: why? That's a really tough question to answer, and there are no good reasons. The primary reason emerging is for a gateway into Iraq (how they could have predicted congress' vote is beyond me--unless you want to say they<br>were part of it, but your brother-in-law seems to think it was very few people in on it). Yet nobody wonders why this government--so corrupt that it would kill its own people and hundreds of thousands of people thereafter, wouldn't simply plant weapons in Iraq to say they found<br>them, if war in Iraq was the motive. There is no good motive. Period. I'll admit discrepancies in the "official" account of events (I don't even know what that means because there is no "official" record; the closest thing to it is the 9/11 commission which isn't comprehensive). Of course it's fishy that Bush hindered the commission, but it was probably because of his incompetence, and not because of a conspiracy. The August 6, 2001 PDB was titled something to the effect of "Osama Bin Laden intent on striking inside the United States." It specifically mentions hijacking in the document. Bush dropped the ball... he's trying to save face, not cover up a conspiracy.<br>maddox@xmission.com<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>It's probably a little unethical of me to publish a private email like this, but there you go. He started it.<br><br>I'm impressed that he replied. I hope he was rattled. He's still out of his depth. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Maddox' reply

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:18 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>why? That's a really tough question to answer, and there are no good reasons. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>No good reasons?!!?<br><br>Oh, brother. Ignore this guy. "NEXT." <p></p><i></i>
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wow

Postby orz » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:08 pm

Obviously it was a good email sent to him, as his reply is suprisingly civil and resonable (if dismissive...) compared to the hillariously harsh and mean replies to the fan/hate mail he posts on his site! <p></p><i></i>
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Begone, Debunker

Postby Pissed Off Cabbie » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:28 pm

No satisfactory motive? Why, right after 9/11, Bush said, "I won the trifecta". <br><br>Maddox is like a trial lawyer trying to defend Jeffrey Dahlmer by insisting that he was just innocently hungry. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Begone, Debunker

Postby streeb » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:25 pm

He's just completely ill-informed, and I think that's why the response is interesting. He puts up a pretty feeble fight for Maddox, so I'd like to think that he was surprised to learn that 9/11 goes much deeper than he thought. The fact that he replied anyway, with such a lack of steam, makes me wonder if it didn't get under his skin a little.<br><br>But Maddox's thing is popular culture, and his 9/11 rant gives us a pretty great insight into how most people view it. Loose Change really is shorthand for 9/11 Truth to the guy and gal in the street, unfortunately. <p></p><i></i>
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