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Re: A tactic I've noticed online.

Postby bvonahsen » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:41 am

May leaves a trail of websites behind him<br><br>ghost troop websites<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.ghosttroop.net/webmasterx.htm">www.ghosttroop.net/webmasterx.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.fourwinds10.com/news/08-media/B-mainstream/2004/08B-10-03-04-ghost-troop-3-7-cavalry.html">www.fourwinds10.com/news/...valry.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.geocities.com/onlythecaptain/index.htm">www.geocities.com/onlythe.../index.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>His system seems to be to get as many interviews from various websites and also to befriend ordinary people and get them to pass on his information.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.spirit1.com/~pazuu/pow-mia/GhostTroopCaptMay5C.htm">www.spirit1.com/~pazuu/po...tMay5C.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Dear Anita...[snip]<br>Please help us plug into the email lists you copied in your email string vs Capt. T (whom I thought you bested, incidentally, without any help from me). Ghost Troop thrives on publication. If you're not comfortable with this, then please become a "blessed forwarder" yourself, and begin to forward our relevant material to such infowar allies (and email lists) as you think will welcome it. Some of our stuff is pretty mild, even amusing (for there must be wit, even in war!), while some of it is devastating, as a search engine scan of "Ghost Troop Captain May" will quickly show. As an immediate assistance, I would greatly appreciate it if you would send this follow-up email to all your contacts copied on the original email string. Since I don't belong to most of the groups, they didn't accept my earlier email defending you and putting Capt. T in line.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>He appears to me to be most concerned with his ranking on google and with developing relations with people who will forward his info. Much of the content on his various websites are emails like the one above to Anita.<br><br>Yahoo group of Captain Eric H. May<br><br>Chicago911inquest<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chicago911inquest/">groups.yahoo.com/group/Ch...11inquest/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>ghosttroop<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttroop/?yguid=167912775">ca.groups.yahoo.com/group...=167912775</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Texas-City-Nuclear-Inquest <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-City-Nuclear-Inquest/">ca.groups.yahoo.com/group...r-Inquest/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Houston Terror Inquest<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/Houston-Terror-Inquest/">ca.groups.yahoo.com/group...r-Inquest/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>--<br>He also attempts to recuit veterans into his "Ghost Troop"<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://100777.com/node/1373">100777.com/node/1373</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.vfvs.com/GhostTroopCaptainEricMay.html">www.vfvs.com/GhostTroopCa...icMay.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: May and Sheehan

Postby Gouda » Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:33 am

I am sure May and/or his officers are by now reading this board. Hi Capm' ! <br><br>DE: <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Given Cindy Crawford's snafu for blaming the entire war on Israel, I wonder if he has some influence with her?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> Did she really? I did not hear about that. (Got a link, anyone?) About May influencing her, maybe, maybe not - not clear from what I have seen, but he has been hanging around Camp Casey. Though he says Cindy was not there when he was there, "to protect the protesters".<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>On Edit: DE, you meant Cindy Sheehan, top mom for peace, not "Cindy Crawford," top model for peace, right?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>ICONOCLAST: How do the activities and itineraries of Ghost Troop differ from those of other groups, such as Cindy Sheehan’s and those of the Crawford Peace House? Are yours and theirs simply different pieces of a larger puzzle or are they part of the same pieces?<br><br>CAPT. MAY: I would say that they are a larger category, more acceptable to the public.<br><br>The largest circle, of the concentric puzzle, is going to be the peace movement, like Cindy Sheehan who travels around and enhances the broad popular sentiment that has already developed against the war. A smaller circle is the anti-war movement, which becomes a more focused attack on the war. I think Cindy is still part of that. I think the Crawford Peace House is really peace/anti-war. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Ever since I came to Camp Casey back when Cindy Sheehan left it for a while back in August, 2005, I’ve had a secret guilt about the place.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Casey Sheehan was killed on April 4, 2004, a year after I picked up the Battle of Baghdad cover up. I imagine he and his comrades didn’t have a clue that the Iraqi Resistance might be more intense on the anniversary of that battle, because the Army was covering up reality even from the field commanders. If his commanders had been told that there was an anniversary date coming up, they would have been looking out better, and Casey might still be alive. Had Ghost Troop been able to do its mission of exposing that cover up better, he might have lived. It’s the kind of thinking that troubles anyone who has made decisions that affect lives, me included.<br><br>Within the peace circle and the antiwar circle there’s a smaller circle still, and that’s those who are waging info-war. Bush administration supporters call us a fifth column, although they prefer to avoid talking about us altogether. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Infowarriors are rare, but you’ll find a few of us out here, in places like Crawford and Camp Casey.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>We’re people who are absolutely hip to 911 and we start with that.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.lonestaricon.com/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=402&z=52">www.lonestaricon.com/abso...a=402&z=52</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>***<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.worldwidewamm.org/newsletters/2005/1105/soliders.html">www.worldwidewamm.org/new...iders.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Eric May, “Captain May,”a Houstonian who might be compared with Che Guevara in a cowboy hat, was on the scene to support Cindy and protect the protestors.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> A former military intelligence officer, May has for the past couple of years headed an Internet activist group called “Ghost Troop,” whose mission is fighting propaganda and misinformation issued by the Bush Administration and propagated by the corporate media. Prior experience as a high school teacher of classic languages along with his insider’s military experience make May an engaging speaker. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>He mesmerized listeners with his account of the April 2003 Battle of Baghdad and its cover-up,</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> while the engineered “rescue” of Pvt. Jessica Lynch was played out on television.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gouda@rigorousintuition>Gouda</A> at: 8/26/06 8:15 am<br></i>
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Re: May and Sheehan

Postby bvonahsen » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:35 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Did she really? I did not hear about that. (Got a link, anyone?)<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>No, she made a statement that the media could distort into something like her "blaming the entire war on Israel". They are playing on America's strong anti-semetic streak. Liberals are vulnerable to this level of manipulation because they like to believe they are free of such lower class ideas. You don't control people through their strengths. You find a weakness, exploit it and it works all the better if people are in denial.<br><br>The right is well aware that they are racist, homophobic and anti-semitic. Yet liberal and leftists keep trying to confront them on their strong side. Bad idea.<br><br>The war with Iraq is about the Saudis putting a lid on production of oil worldwide. We play the big dumb enforcer. Iraqi oil fields out of commision, BP pipelines shut off, Iran is next on the menu.... mission accomplished. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: May and Sheehan

Postby Gouda » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:59 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>No, she made a statement that the media could distort into something like her "blaming the entire war on Israel".<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>I must have missed all that in the media gyres. <br><br>***<br><br>By the way, credit for catching the "ghost troop" stuff goes to BannedfromDU over in the "US Army Intell Analyst Targeted: Doubts Official 9/11 Story" thread. It sure added another dimension to the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Lonestar Iconoclast</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->'s story about the Army's probe of Sergeant First Class Donald Buswell's (another ghost troop?) for disloyalty and his alleged "information" proving a 911 military-industrial complex conspiracy. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Gouda » Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:51 am

Captain May collaborates with Greg Szymanski. Wing TV debunks Szymanski and Captain May. Captain May debunks them back. <br><br>This is sophisticated info-war? Credible investigation and analysis? Mature, healthy inquiry? More like sugar-spiked playground politics. <br><br>Captain May: "Victor Thorn and Lisa Guliani -- False Frie"<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://rogueimc.org/en/2006/08/7081.shtml">rogueimc.org/en/2006/08/7081.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Wing TV's real patriots,Thorn and Guliani's "hit piece" on May and Szymanski: <br><br>"Greg Szymanski's Lies and Fakery"<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/syzmanski2.html">www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/syzmanski2.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Better yet, save your time. You can imagine the idiotic squabble within those links. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Szymanski

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:06 am

Greg Szymanski is a definitely a disinfo artist, lots of hot 9/11 material and then *wham* total nonsense about the US-Nazi connection. Just utter fiction. <br><br>And that topic is the Achilles heel for the US government's mythic identity as White Hat bombing the world for freedom. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Szymanski

Postby Dreams End » Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:14 pm

Did I really write "Cindy Crawford"? Good god..I think I'll leave it there for amusement value, but yes, I meant Sheehan. Got confused with Crawford, Texas.<br><br>here's the sheehan quote:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br> Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by a George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy...not for the real reason, becuase the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy. That hasn't changed since America invaded and occupied Iraq...in fact it has gotten worse. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Later, I think she claimed that someone added that part in there or something like that. It's a tiny bit more nuanced than "It's all for Israel"...she at least has the neocons pulling the strings...but it's all for the benefit of Israel. Obviously, Israel is part of the equation, but the oversimplification and ignoring of other motives and dark actors in this drama...that's one of the primary disinfo themes, in my view. In any event, she's not the only one with that view...but Captain May has certainly made it clear that he blames Israel and the "Mossad Media" for the war. <br><br>I did not, by the way, discount the Battle of Baghdad stuff, if you notice my original posts. I had always assumed that this was true but had never seen clear confirmation that the U.S. losses were heavier than reported. I won't bother to research it, but I wonder if that information was coming out before or after May became a web presence. Is his rather bizarre ghost troop conceit about exposing truth or discrediting it. I mean, the guy looks like a bad actor playing a cliche movie role. <br><br>So I would look elsewhere for info on the Battle of Baghdad...but that's different from automatically saying it's not true. <br><br>May says that "May" is his real name. I've yet to find any of the writing he says he did before becoming a Ghost Troop. He says much of that was "ghost written". <br><br>I'd write off most of what he says as delusional except for that clear connection to "Chaplain Chase" who is ambassador to Qatar. <br><br>May could be government or could be freelancing for Hill and Knowlton...the fact that he even mentions H and K suggests he's playing a tongue in cheek game. In fact, four of his major articles are written in the section called "April Fools" and yet I've seen no explanation for that.<br><br>And yes...howdy Captain. If you haven't found your way here by now then I have greatly misunderstood what you are up to.<br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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anybody that knocks

Postby bamabecky » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:28 pm

Anybody that "smears" Greg Szymanski in "my book" is automatically <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> VERY SUSPECT</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. Greg's "<!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Investigative Journal</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END-->" broadcast on <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.RBNLive.com" target="top">www.RBNLive.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> is an everyday "must hear". A true red, white, & blue all American patriot, that's Greg! Anybody that says otherwise is a true blue mud slinger of the slimmest smelliest sort, so says I. His series on Leo Wanta with Christopher Story are stellar. Read all about it here<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.worldreports.org/news" target="top">www.worldreports.org/news</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> and here <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles.html" target="top">www.arcticbeacon.com/articles.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Excellent Excellent work</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END-->! Greg is on vacation this week and next! Greg's radio archives can be found here <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Greg06.html" target="top">mp3.rbnlive.com/Greg06.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> Deal with his re-runs till he gets back. Sorry to change the subject of the thread - just could let the unwarrented slap at Greg go unnoticed. If you can handle the truth, you should be listening, otherwise go back to sleep with your sticks and stones.<br>Bama <p>Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.</p><i></i>
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Re: anybody that knocks

Postby Dreams End » Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:18 pm

Who knew the Jesuits controlled the Jews, Billy Graham and sank the Titanic...<br><br>Good tipoff! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: anybody that knocks

Postby Sweejak » Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:53 am

I met Capt. May at Camp Casey about a year ago. He has no official relationship with Camp Casey and as far as I can tell was one of many who went to the camp. I don't think he has any influence on Cindy Sheehan. We spoke till late one evening. Fascinating man and very intelligent by my estimation. I think he is legit but let me also say that I also think he is a 'work in progress'. Aren't we all. My opinion.<br><br> The Ghost Troop is structured along military lines so disagreements are handled in a fashion that one wouldn't find on a normal forum. They tend to get mired in spy/counterspy accusations, but I see a lot of that everywhere. I think some accusations are wrong, others dead on. Some very interesting intel gets passed around, again I think some of it is unique and valuable, other stuff clearly wrong, IMO again. Often it is really really hard to verify.<br>You might have heard of SFC Donald Buswell, or John McCarthy.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.lonestaricon.com/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=426&z=54">www.lonestaricon.com/abso...a=426&z=54</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/">johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: anybody that knocks

Postby bvonahsen » Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:18 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Anybody that "smears" Greg Szymanski in "my book" is automatically VERY SUSPECT.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Don't look now Becky but your jingoism is showing. Might want to attend to that. <p></p><i></i>
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By Jingo, your right!

Postby bamabecky » Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:48 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"There is much talk about 'jingoism'. If by 'jingoism' they mean a policy in pursuance of which Americans will with resolution and common sense insist upon our rights being respected by foreign powers, then we are 'jingoes'."<br>Theodore Roosevelt <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingoism" target="top">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingoism</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>If by Jingoism you mean red, white and blue Patriotism, why on earth would I want to "attend" to that?<br><br>If by Jingoism you mean a policy against the criminal cabals that have ruined this country, why on earth would I want to attent to that?<br><br>If by Jingoism you mean "an insult to religious groups" that have infiltrated the US government, then YOU attend to that.<br><br>I hope that everybody "attends" to <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>the facts of the Leo Wanta story and all it's "pig trails"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--><br>I'm neither a liberal or a conservative, democrat or Republican. I'm an American. What the heck did you mean BTW? What's your own "personal" definition of Jingoism?<br>Bama<br><br><br><br> <p>Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.</p><i></i>
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Re: By Jingo, your right!

Postby Dreams End » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:23 am

Okay, sweejak, then you tell me...I'm really curious about this. When a man says he is former military intelligence and that he has worked in all the big oil companies and also Hill and Knowlton, the primary propaganda arm of the Republican party...why are you so willing to believe him? I think this goes to the heart of activism. The Procup fellow from Mexico I mentioned? The owner of the building, a slightly eccentric but progressive millionaire who provided free space for peace groups, refused to kick the guy out, despite clear accounts from seasoned activists as to what this guy was....he didn't hide his Procup associations and Procup was well known. <br><br>You don't want to get caught in "spy/counterspy" accusations, I agree...but when the man's resume says spy....at least the part that does not say "oil company shill", you have to wonder. When a guy who worked as a writer (I guess that's what he did) for oil companies, then points to Israel instead of oil companies as the likely culprit behind the starting of the Gulf War, doesn't that simply seem like he's doing his job?<br><br>If activists don't learn how to be a little discerning, then we are in trouble. So what makes you completely discount this guy's past and assume he's legit? And the fact that he's against the war doesn't count, as OF COURSE someone infiltrating a movement will adopt the same political positions..... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: By Jingo, your right!

Postby Sweejak » Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:18 pm

Who says I believe everything he says is correct? When we spoke it was mostly about... what to call it... para-geopolitics, but this included numerology and the use of codes, the Nazis in the administration, and he gave a very convincing view that this, the USa, is now the 4th Reich. Do I "believe" that? I said "very convincing" and that is what I meant. I'll leave it at that. Some connections are undeniable.<br><br>About Numerology, May has said that he doesn't necessarily believe it has some sort of power, but 'they' do and hence it is worth analyzing.<br><br>I know lots of Republicans who are vehemently anti-Bush, anti NWO, and in fact I consider them allies, especially given the extremes we are now living in.<br><br>Hill and Knowlton, yeah a disinfo outfit, but Ray McGovern worked for the CIA, so did many in his group. So, by analogy I don't weight that as conclusive. I don't know what kind of work, exactly, he did for the oil companies. Hell, he lived in Houston, and remember that he was a gung ho soldier and he says his illusions were shattered. Not an unusual story these days and I think his current activity needs to be taken in that context. In short I find those connections only interesting.<br><br>As far as him pointing fingers at Israel, who in his right mind wouldn't? But let me be clear, while I think they are complicit I don't think the end all and be all is Israel, just like I don't think the oil companies are the top of the "grand unified conspiracy", or even the USa.<br><br>In regards to his predictions, I just don't know. Ghost Troop claims to have stopped them. Maybe, maybe. For instance when they claim they stopped a nuclear attack in Texas City they cite the fact that there was a WMD team training exercise... operating from memory here... appeared on the beaches of Galveston, this in conjunction with reports from a BP employee about suddenly cancelled drills at BP and who also reported an FM radio station broadcasting "abort, abort, abort" apparently in the middle of a newscast. Odd to say the least, and everybody is expecting a false flag operation, from the likes of McGovern to D Ellsberg to Alex Jones. In fact, second hand, McGovern and Ellsberg have even given dates for the planned attack on Iran.<br><br>I missed the thread with the Procup fellow. Link?<br><br>There is no way to stay completely out of the spy vs. spy stuff. Everybody has a different tripwire and when crossed one feels they have to speak out. Besides, I don't think anyone believes that groups everywhere are not being infiltrated and worked.<br><br>What makes me think this guy is legit, meaning honest in his intentions, comes from my meeting and talking with him face to face. I don't discount his past, what I know of it, I just don't give it all that much weight. That's my discernment and intuition but it doesn't mean I take everything, from anybody, as gospel.<br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: By Jingo, your right!

Postby Dreams End » Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:02 pm

Well, if FOIA is still around in a few years, it will be interesting to see what May wrote about your conversation with him!<br><br>PROCUP...I thought that was in this thread...side issue anyway. PROCUP is a known, violent "leftist" organization that primarily kills other leftists and is simply assumed by many to be state sponsored.<br><br>I posted in another thread that the former "chaplain" of Ghost Troop, whom I mentioned here as well, Chase Untermayer, is now ambassador to Qatar...appointed by Bush. What I don't think I mentioned is that he's also on the board of National Public Radio.<br><br>And I'm sorry, I don't trust Ray McGovern, either. While I understand that it is possible that a CIA guy could "see the light" I'd say two things:<br><br>1. I think one unfortunate penalty of working with the CIA is that you don't get to provide leadership of any sort in opposition movements. Sit down and lick envelopes if you want to help. Paint protest signs, but your life choices have disqualified you, I'm afraid.<br><br>2. I see no evidence that McGovern has seen the light. He picks at issues around the war, but I've not seen much condemnation of the history and activities of the CIA from him. In fact his organization is "Intelligence Professionals for Social responsibility" or something like that. Umm....anyone else find that a little ironic. He's not a whistleblower along the lines of Agee or McGehee (same caveats apply but they expose the activities of the agency itself). As far as I've seen, McGovern kinda makes the CIA look like good guys whose sound judgment and moral behavior have been undercut by the Bushies. <br><br>The fact that even his email address is on the Counterpunch server makes me more suspicious as I think they "got to" Cockburn some time ago. Cockburn is such a fine writer...but the Scientologists or someone must have some pictures of him in bed with someone who doesn't shave yet, or something because he clearly carries water for bad guys from time to time.<br><br>But read McGovern closely. What does he say that challenges the power structure. <br><br>Finally, McGovern became a spokesperson for the "Not in our Name" project, one of a long line of projects with catchy names led by the Revolutionary Communist Party (see the "controlled left" thread for more on them). If any left group in America is state-sponsored start to finish, it's RCP. They are allegedly "radical" communists, who tended mainly, in my experience, to try to start fights at other leftists' events. However, they have gotten more and more sophisticated...they are also behind the "world can't wait" protests.<br><br>So, sorry. I think Mcgovern is still a spook. His job is to deflect all analysis of the Iraq war to blame the neocons and Israel, thus diverting attention from the primary bad guys. <p></p><i></i>
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