10/11/6 - 9/11/01 upside down - more explosions in NYC.

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Postby slimmouse » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:38 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Who flies small planes locally into buildings!?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Not to mention the passport thing.<br><br> This is some superfucking wierd stuff IMHO.<br><br> They say "he just got his flying license"<br><br> All the more reason to avoid flying around tall buildings wouldnt you say ?<br><br> Theres something not just so about all of this. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: According to Cryptome........

Postby alice » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:18 pm

The apartments in this building house MI6 people ?<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://cryptome.org/524e72.htm">cryptome.org/524e72.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: PASSPORT FOUNDI IN STREET AGAIN!

Postby 4911 » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:18 pm

"PASSPORT FOUND IN THE STREET."<br><br>Ha! There we go. Good eye, pugzleyca. Wonder how many other coincidental correlations are gonna be around soon. <br><br>Stay tuned is right.<br><br>as for the inversion of the date- maybe it means something like "When you turn a symbol on its head, you change the meaning into its opposite" <p></p><i></i>
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Re: PASSPORT FOUNDI IN STREET AGAIN!

Postby pugzleyca3 » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:25 pm

A teacher just told me that after 9/11 she had kids drawing pics of planes crashing into buildings for a year, she says this is something similar to PTSD and she thinks that this latest crash will dredge up all those old scary feelings for the kids again.<br><br>Well, if it works on the kids, I'd think it would work on the adults. <br><br>I don't know what happened here, but it sure does bring back the old memories, doesn't it? <br><br>And just when the Republicans are fixing to lose the House and possibly even the Senate. I presume the Foley scandal will be relegated to the basement now that this has happened.<br><br>Like I said... I don't know and I ain't saying it's a conspiracy, but let's see what happens, shall we? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: According to Cryptome........

Postby dqueue » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:32 pm

According to Cryptome, at some time in the past, some subset of the apartments that comprise this building housed MI6... Like maybe one, or two apartments of 130+... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: According to Cryptome........

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<br><br> <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>At least 2 killed in New York as plane hits building</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>By Maria Newman and Joe Drape The New York Times<br><br>Published: October 11, 2006<br>Cory Lidle, a pitcher for the New York Yankees, was killed today when his small private plane crashed into a residential high-rise building on New York City's Upper East Side, igniting several apartments before pieces of the aircraft crashed to the ground, a high-ranking city official confirmed late this afternoon.<br> <br>The plane was registered to Mr. Lidle, who was a licensed pilot. At a news conference this afternoon, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said that there were two dead, but he would not confirm that Mr. Lidle was one of them, saying the families of the victims had not yet been notified.<br> <br>"No bodies were found in the building," the mayor said.<br> <br>He said that the plane left Teterboro Airport in New Jersey at about 2:30 p.m., that it circled the Statute of Liberty and then headed north up the East River, where it "had not violated any traffic control rules."<br> <br>The plane then lost touch with air traffic controllers, radar showed that the plane flew near the 59th Street Bridge.<br> <br>Then, at 2:42 p.m., the mayor said, 911 received a call reporting a crash at a building on 72nd Street.<br> <br>"It's very tragic," Mr. Bloomberg said. "We have to say a little prayer for those we lost, the two human beings whose lives were snuffed out."<br> <br>The aircraft struck at about the 40th or 41st floors of the building, at 524 E. 72nd St., near York Avenue, known as the Belaire. . Flames shot out of the building and smoke streamed up into the sky, visible for miles. The building was evacuated, the mayor said, but people were allowed to return later, after the fire wasput out.<br> <br>The National Transportation Safety Board said it would send a team of investigators from Washington this evening, to take charge of the investigation. One of the five members of the board, Deborah A.P. Hersman, was accompanying the team, which was flying on a government plane from Washington.<br> <br>The explosion after the crash, and the ensuing fire, interrupted the routine of the bustling East Side neighborhood. The Belaire has 50 floors, with several of the bottom floors housing offices for doctors and other professionals, with residences upstairs. The building is surrounded by several hospitals and medical offices.<br> <br>Kim Quarterman, 50, a doorman at 411 E. 70th St., said he heard a noise about 2:45 p.m.<br> <br>"It sounded like a truck gearing down," he said. "You know how a truck sounds when it's trying not to hit something? Then I saw a cloud of smoke."<br> <br>After that, he picked up his daughter, Chablis Quarterman, 13, at a nearby school.<br> <br>"My dad and I tried to get as close as we could, but by then, all you could see was smoke," she said.<br> <br>Several witnesses said that the plane was flying lower than normal, and then that it turned suddenly, towards the building.<br> <br>Rob Miranda, a carpenter, had been working on a renovation project on the 46th floor. He and the architect had just finished lunch when they saw an airplane approaching the building. It hit the Belaire on the north side. It had been wobbling, they said, and at first, they thought it was a stunt plane.<br> <br>"He was out of control," Mr. Miranda said. "He was on an incline, accelerating as he passed. Then he hooked around the corner, he hit the north side of the building, and you heard a tremendous explosion."<br> <br>He said he and the other workers ran, checking the 38th and 39th floors for any people who needed to get out. As smoke quickly began filling up the rooms, they took the elevators down.<br> <br>Another contractor with a roofing company, Arturo Waulk, was working nearby when he saw the aircraft.<br> <br>"It was a small plane and it was wobbling, and then all of a sudden it was buried in a building and fires were blowing all around," he said.<br> <br>At the Belaire, two men Leonard Cutillo and George Acosta, were waiting to see their doctor. Mr. Cutillo, who was leaning on a cane, had tears in his eyes and was shaking as he recounted what had happened.<br> <br>"We're sitting in the building, and we heard this tremendous noise and everything starts blowing out - glass, smoke, flames - and we just got out of there as quick as we could," Mr. Cutillo said.<br> <br>Laura Stern, who lives on the 27th floor of 515 East 79th Street, said she was in her living room, which has an unobstructed southern view of the Belaire.<br> <br>"I saw huge flames shooting out of the Bel Air," she said at about 4 p.m. "I didn't see the impact but it's huge. I can see it now - black smoke. There's still flames they haven't put out.<br> <br>"But it doesn't look like it's affected more than two stories."<br> <br>Alexa Lagnori, who lives across the street from the Belaire, at 525 E. 72d, was in her apartment when the plane struck.<br> <br>"I saw the fire and it seemed to be pouring out of five to 10 floors below," she said.<br> <br>She said firefighters responded quickly to put out the fire and comb over debris from the plane littering the ground. She got out of the building with her dog, Akira, through a back door.<br> <br>"It looked as if something had hit the building very hard," she said . "I thought at first it was a black plane, but it may have just been the smoke. It was frightening how much fire it caused."<br> <br>Samuel Klotman, 17, was on the roof of his school nearby with classmates when they saw the plane coming down.<br> <br>"I could see through the buildings what I thought was a plane headed to this building," he said. "Then there was a booming noise and a great fire gust shooting out."<br> <br>He said he and his classmates started text messaging and calling everyone they knew, "wondering what was happening," and the school let everybody go home.<br> <br>Reporting was contributed by Al Baker, Joe Drape, Anthony Ramirez, Matthew Sweeney, Natalie Layzell, John Holusha, Carla Baranauckas and Matthew L. Wald.<br> <br>Cory Lidle, a pitcher for the New York Yankees, was killed today when his small private plane crashed into a residential high-rise building on New York City's Upper East Side, igniting several apartments before pieces of the aircraft crashed to the ground, a high-ranking city official confirmed late this afternoon.<br> <br>The plane was registered to Mr. Lidle, who was a licensed pilot. At a news conference this afternoon, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said that there were two dead, but he would not confirm that Mr. Lidle was one of them, saying the families of the victims had not yet been notified.<br> <br>"No bodies were found in the building," the mayor said.<br> <br>He said that the plane left Teterboro Airport in New Jersey at about 2:30 p.m., that it circled the Statute of Liberty and then headed north up the East River, where it "had not violated any traffic control rules."<br> <br>The plane then lost touch with air traffic controllers, radar showed that the plane flew near the 59th Street Bridge.<br> <br>Then, at 2:42 p.m., the mayor said, 911 received a call reporting a crash at a building on 72nd Street.<br> <br>"It's very tragic," Mr. Bloomberg said. "We have to say a little prayer for those we lost, the two human beings whose lives were snuffed out."<br> <br>The aircraft struck at about the 40th or 41st floors of the building, at 524 E. 72nd St., near York Avenue, known as the Belaire. . Flames shot out of the building and smoke streamed up into the sky, visible for miles. The building was evacuated, the mayor said, but people were allowed to return later, after the fire wasput out.<br> <br>The National Transportation Safety Board said it would send a team of investigators from Washington this evening, to take charge of the investigation. One of the five members of the board, Deborah A.P. Hersman, was accompanying the team, which was flying on a government plane from Washington.<br> <br>The explosion after the crash, and the ensuing fire, interrupted the routine of the bustling East Side neighborhood. The Belaire has 50 floors, with several of the bottom floors housing offices for doctors and other professionals, with residences upstairs. The building is surrounded by several hospitals and medical offices.<br> <br>Kim Quarterman, 50, a doorman at 411 E. 70th St., said he heard a noise about 2:45 p.m.<br> <br>"It sounded like a truck gearing down," he said. "You know how a truck sounds when it's trying not to hit something? Then I saw a cloud of smoke."<br> <br>After that, he picked up his daughter, Chablis Quarterman, 13, at a nearby school.<br> <br>"My dad and I tried to get as close as we could, but by then, all you could see was smoke," she said.<br> <br>Several witnesses said that the plane was flying lower than normal, and then that it turned suddenly, towards the building.<br> <br>Rob Miranda, a carpenter, had been working on a renovation project on the 46th floor. He and the architect had just finished lunch when they saw an airplane approaching the building. It hit the Belaire on the north side. It had been wobbling, they said, and at first, they thought it was a stunt plane.<br> <br>"He was out of control," Mr. Miranda said. "He was on an incline, accelerating as he passed. Then he hooked around the corner, he hit the north side of the building, and you heard a tremendous explosion."<br> <br>He said he and the other workers ran, checking the 38th and 39th floors for any people who needed to get out. As smoke quickly began filling up the rooms, they took the elevators down.<br> <br>Another contractor with a roofing company, Arturo Waulk, was working nearby when he saw the aircraft.<br> <br>"It was a small plane and it was wobbling, and then all of a sudden it was buried in a building and fires were blowing all around," he said.<br> <br>At the Belaire, two men Leonard Cutillo and George Acosta, were waiting to see their doctor. Mr. Cutillo, who was leaning on a cane, had tears in his eyes and was shaking as he recounted what had happened.<br> <br>"We're sitting in the building, and we heard this tremendous noise and everything starts blowing out - glass, smoke, flames - and we just got out of there as quick as we could," Mr. Cutillo said.<br> <br>Laura Stern, who lives on the 27th floor of 515 East 79th Street, said she was in her living room, which has an unobstructed southern view of the Belaire.<br> <br>"I saw huge flames shooting out of the Bel Air," she said at about 4 p.m. "I didn't see the impact but it's huge. I can see it now - black smoke. There's still flames they haven't put out.<br> <br>"But it doesn't look like it's affected more than two stories."<br> <br>Alexa Lagnori, who lives across the street from the Belaire, at 525 E. 72d, was in her apartment when the plane struck.<br> <br>"I saw the fire and it seemed to be pouring out of five to 10 floors below," she said.<br> <br>She said firefighters responded quickly to put out the fire and comb over debris from the plane littering the ground. She got out of the building with her dog, Akira, through a back door.<br> <br>"It looked as if something had hit the building very hard," she said . "I thought at first it was a black plane, but it may have just been the smoke. It was frightening how much fire it caused."<br> <br>Samuel Klotman, 17, was on the roof of his school nearby with classmates when they saw the plane coming down.<br> <br>"I could see through the buildings what I thought was a plane headed to this building," he said. "Then there was a booming noise and a great fire gust shooting out."<br> <br>He said he and his classmates started text messaging and calling everyone they knew, "wondering what was happening," and the school let everybody go home.<br> <br>Reporting was contributed by Al Baker, Joe Drape, Anthony Ramirez, Matthew Sweeney, Natalie Layzell, John Holusha, Carla Baranauckas and Matthew L. Wald.<br> <br><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/10/11/america/web.1011crash.php">link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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According to Wikipedia

Postby Avalon » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:28 pm

While it doesn't give a source, Lidle's former teammate Arthur Rhodes refers to him as a "scab." The article in Wikipedia says "shortly after" Rhodes said that, Lidle's plane crashed. but gives no date.<br><br>Did Lidle play in the game recently lost by the Yankees that lost them a chance at the World Series? If so, were there any other harsh words?<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Rhodes">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Rhodes</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: According to Wikipedia

Postby rain » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:18 pm

oops, puzleyca's screenshot from pg 1.<br><br><br>NEW YORK (CNN) -- Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle and his flight instructor were killed Wednesday when the 34-year-old ballplayer's plane crashed into a high-rise apartment building in New York, city and baseball team officials said. <br><br>No residents at the Belaire Condominiums at 524 E. 72nd Street near the East River were injured.<br><br>Two bodies and Lidle's passport were found in the street, responders told CNN.(Watch witness accounts of cascading fireballs and a plane split in half -- 1:58 ) <br><br>"It looks like the plane just flew into someone's living room," witness Sarah Steiner told CNN.<br><br>There was a mayday from the pilot involving a problem with fuel, government sources close to the investigation told CNN. (Watch the NTSB comment on investigation -- 3:00 ) <br><br>According to New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, the flight originated from Teterboro Airport in northern New Jersey at 2:29 p.m. Shortly after circling the Statue of Liberty and heading north near the 59th Street Bridge, air traffic control lost contact with pilot. <br><br>Witness Henry Neimark, who is also a pilot, said he saw a plane flying at relatively low altitude. "It looked to me in retrospect that this was a pilot desperately trying to get back to the airport and land safely on a runway," he said. .(Watch the orange flames ravage the apartment -- 1:50)<br><br>Yankees owner George Steinbrenner confirmed that Lidle was killed aboard his Cirrus Design SR-20 four seater.<br><br>"This is a terrible and shocking tragedy that has stunned the entire Yankees organization," he said in a written statement. "I offer my deep condolences and prayers to his wife, Melanie, and son, Christopher, on their enormous loss." <br><br>The flight instructor has not been identified because family members have not been identified.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/10/11/plane.crash/index.html">edition.cnn.com/2006/US/1...index.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rain@rigorousintuition>rain</A> at: 10/11/06 9:23 pm<br></i>
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Re: According to Wikipedia

Postby 4911 » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:09 am

<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://avia-dejavu.net/N207CD.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><br>thats the plane <p></p><i></i>
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Re: According to Wikipedia

Postby rain » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:36 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>keyword hijack inquiry into the collapse of WTC 7. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>er, so what, now we'll have to refer to you as <br>'Prophet Pan'<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: According to Wikipedia

Postby rain » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:15 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Apartment No. 46D in 524 East 72nd Street housed an MI6 officer, Ian Forbes McCredie, in 1992<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>there's another little tidbit from 1992<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The American Ship Building Company has said it may file for bankruptcy protection by the end of September if the Navy does not pay money needed to finish a construction contract. The company's chairman is George M. Steinbrenner, owner of the New York Yankees.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>and from 1993<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The Navy reaffirmed yesterday its cancellation of a $176-million contract with the American Ship Building Company in Tampa, Fla., which is headed by New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner. Navy Secretary John H. Dalton informed the shipyard of the decision. He said American Ship's "severe financial and performance problems" hurt its ability to complete two 677-foot fuel tankers. The Navy had terminated the contract on Aug. 25, but Mr. Dalton was asked by the shipyard and members of Congress to review the decision<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/n/navies/index.html?query=TANKERS&field=des&match=exact">topics.nytimes.com/top/re...atch=exact</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>of course, I'm always willing to entertain the notion that enraged thought-forms swirling around No.7 and CD in N.Y.on 10.11.06 just grabbed that little plane after it had circled the Statue of Liberty and slammed it into the nearest building and everybody hates the Yankees, right.<br><br>er, I've just got to duck out as I've got a sudden hankering for marshmallow.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rain@rigorousintuition>rain</A> at: 10/12/06 4:21 am<br></i>
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Fox sez 'it could effect the election'

Postby rain » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:59 am

The hysterical media circus that grew in the hours following an accident in which a baseball star who wasn't properly qualified flew a small plane into a Manhattan apartment block was crystallized by Fox News' Neil Cavuto - who bizarrely put the pilot error of the Yankees' Cory Lidle into the context of how it would affect the upcoming mid-term elections. <br><br>The FBI and Homeland Security are now labeling a small aircraft hitting an apartment building on Manhattan's Upper East Side at 72nd Street and York Avenue, as an accident. <br><br>On Fox News' Your World With Neil Cavuto, Cavuto suggested during a conversation with Republican Congressman Peter King that the event would possibly affect the upcoming mid-term election by reminding Americans of the horror of 9/11.<br><br>It has now been reported that the pilot of the plane was New York Yankees baseball star Cory Lidle. The fact that the accident involves a celebrity means the networks can justifiably talk about it for another three weeks and in that sense - invoking memories of 9/11 - it could impact the election.<br><br>The event also knocks stories about Mark Foley and Washington pedophile and prostitution rings off the top off the news cycle. .......<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2006/111006planecrash.htm">www.prisonplanet.com/arti...ecrash.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>well, der. it's the distraction from the distraction from the distraction .....<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: PASSPORT FOUNDI IN STREET AGAIN!

Postby Infernal Optimist » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:01 am

It's still there:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Lidle's passport was found on the street, according to a federal official, speaking to AP on condition of anonymity. It was not immediately clear who was at the controls and who was the second person aboard.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>I think they should redesign airplanes' black boxes to be made out of the same material they use to make passports. Passports fared better in Manhattan than black boxes on 9/11. Or maybe not. Reports differ, as is the case for all things 9/11. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Fox sez 'it could effect the election'

Postby rain » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:05 am

so, having chewed resolutely through the first half-dozen or so marshmallows, I thought I needed to say that the preceeding tid-bits of information shouldn't be presumed to implicate 'the boss' . one necessarily should straddle the other end of the see-saw and consider that he's just as likely to be a victim or patsy. Even if the man does say things like <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"Breathing first, winning next."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://espn.go.com/classic/biography/s/Steinbrenner_George.html">espn.go.com/classic/biogr...eorge.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>his pictures suggest more of the thuggish petty-tyrant, than the mad wizard with access to the handy-dandy remote-control thingy.<br>could be wrong of course, cos he does have a bit of a history.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The "convicted" part of Martin's comment referred to Steinbrenner's connection to U.S. President Richard Nixon: he was indicted on 14 criminal counts on April 5, 1974, then pled guilty to making illegal contributions to Nixon's re-election campaign and obstruction of justice on August 23. Steinbrenner was personally fined $15,000, while his firm was assessed $20,000 for the offense. On November 27, Commissioner Bowie Kuhn suspended him for two years, but later reduced that amount to nine months, with Steinbrenner returning to the Yankees in 1976. It would take more than a decade, but U.S. President Ronald Reagan eventually pardoned Steinbrenner on January 19, 1989 in one of the final acts of his presidency.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Steinbrenner">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geo...einbrenner</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>and there's also that other little coinkydink - Ohio.<br>eg: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MEN412A.html">www.globalresearch.ca/art...N412A.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>and finally, on a personal note - FB where are you. this 'baseball' thing is getting really weird.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Fox sez 'it could effect the election'

Postby professorpan » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:29 am

Whew. Take a breath, amigos. Sometimes shit happens, without PTB orchestration. <br><br>You can take any incident and dig deep enough to find weird coincidences. <p></p><i></i>
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