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Keyword Hijackers and Parallel Distractors. 9/11 to Marrs.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:56 pm
by Hugh Manatee Wins
I'd never heard of Texe Marrs before, just Jim Marrs who wrote about the hit on JFK in his 1989 'Crossfire' and 'Rule By Secrecy' exposing the Council On Foreign Relations and other hidden elites.<br><br>Recently my browser, which prevents most pop-up ads, let through an ad for! Oh, really?<br><br>Hmm...Is Texe out there to confuse people looking for Jim Marrs on the internet?<br><br>Because I've noticed a tactic used by spooks to cover-up things:<br>parallel distractors which are related to look-alikes and false-flag operations.<br><br>Example: <br>Fox's TV series called 'The Lone Gunman' premiered in early 2001 and depicted a secret U.S. government agency behind a plot to crash a Boeing 727 into the WTC via remote control and blame it on foreign terrorists in the hopes of generating a bigger military budget. I'm not kidding.<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>(The website carrying this valid story with quotes and storyboard of the show is itself an example of discrediting tactics, juxtaposing strange prophecies with, for instance, FEMA's standdown in New Orleans. What a coincidence. Not.)<br><br>The neurolinguistic programming of the title alone crudely invoking Lee Harvey Oswald smacks of pre-emptive fictionalization for the masses to confuse fact and fiction much like the rest of the 'The X Files.'<br><br>Example: <br>The right-wing noise machine went off loudly in January 2005 over Prof. Ward Churchill's use of the expression "little Eichmann's" waaaay back on 9/12/01 to describe some of the not-so-innocent occupants of the WTC like the CIA, Churchill's now infamous 'On the Justice of Roosting Chickens' essay.<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="!Sk%24N&r_coid=239138&rawto="></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Within a few days the NYTimes online edition and Ha'aretz in Israel carried the story that the CIA had finally released damaging 60 year-old documents showing it had taken in as assets five of Nazi Adolph Eichmann's assistants. (Another parallel device: I doubt this was in the hard copy of the NYTimes because that would leave evidence lying around. The internet version is easily scrubbed and seen by fewer people in the US and while portraying the US press as more open than it really is to the better-informed international readership.)<br><br>Even more plot thickening, the panel set up in 1998 to release US documents on Nazi and Japanese war criminals had as its spokeperson Richard Ben-Veniste who recently sat on the 9/11 Omission Panel. Ben-Veniste, like much of that neo-Warren Commission, was a fox guarding the henhouse due to his strong ties to Big Oil through the law firm he works for. <br><br>So Ben-Veniste was putting the screws to the CIA over its Cold War dirty laundry at the same time the CIA was being purged of those who didn't cover for the neocon White House's oil war and intentional security lapses.<br><br>So the keyword 'Eichmann' was intentionally pre-emptively hijacked as a diversion from info damaging to the CIA.<br><br>I wonder if Texe Marrs is a creation of the CIA to minimize the damage done to its reputation by Jim Marrs?<br><br>Here's a site analyzing Texe called 'Saint Aardvark the Carpeted':<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="">saintaardvarkthecarpeted....humour.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 3/2/06 7:15 pm<br></i>

Re: Keyword Hijackers and Parallel Distractors. 9/11 to Marr

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:25 pm
by Rigorous Intuition
Somewhere, maybe in her book Unshackled, I read RA/MC survivor Kathleen Sullivan on Texe Marrs. As she was first trying to heal herself she got lassoed into Marrs orbit, and began to see sinister designs everywhere. Everyday patterns - triangles, say - were always signs of the Illuminati. Religious belief which didn't conform to Marrs' fundamentalism was demonic.<br><br>Sullivan's healing then included moving beyond Marrs and his far right and hateful belief system that seemed to provide just another level of control for exiting victims. She's also since noted that, in her experience, RA/MC perpetrators are quite adept at operating under the cover of "family values" fundamentalist Christianity. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Keyword Hijackers and Parallel Distractors. 9/11 to Marr

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:39 pm
by Darklo
Sorry to wander off a bit;<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>fundamentalist<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Another word that has been hijacked from the dictionary. In the context of religion it used to mean someone that believed in the main thrust of the ideology, in the core beliefs, like the Ten Commandments.<br><br>Now it means some wacko extreemist.<br><br>An orwelian distortion that prevents moral relativism being attacked in the media. <p></p><i></i>

I have both their books

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:52 pm
by bamabecky
Jim Marrs <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">Rule by Secrecy</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> and Texe Marrs <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">Codex Magica</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>I recommend that you read them both.<br><br>But before you do, read William Cooper’s book <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Behold a Pale Horse</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->Anybody out there know of a book better than <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">Behold a Pale Horse</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->?<br><br>I do not think there is a connection what so ever, but I could be wrong. <br>Bama<br> <p>Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.</p><i></i>

Agreement to Disagree....

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:57 pm
by Floyd Smoots
....Perhaps, for the sake of discussion, Texe Marrs is a creation of God, and that website, and all others disparaging his posts, are creations of the "Alphabet Soup Agencies". Make of that what you will, but it is merely the other side of the argument from the "Loyal Opposition". No whining on this post, no flaming, no name-calling, no "Jeff-baiting", merely presenting the other side of the coin.<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Floyd Smoots<br> <p></p><i></i>

Re: I have both their books

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:06 pm
by Darklo
Ive seen the Behold a Pale Horse video, downloaded it on a torrent a while ago.<br><br>It was essentially saying that because there are lots of triangles, squares and little things with owls on them everywhere, that the occult is everywhere and there is a global conspiracy.<br><br>This was nothing more than William Coopers religious beliefs giving him a distinctly end of times interpretation of everything.<br><br>The fact is that all religion is based on weird occult practices, and all culture is based on religion. So it shouldnt come as a surprise that their are lots of occult symbols everywhere. <br><br>1000's of people are killed everyday by wars and poverty, but these conspiracy theories dont give that any time for discussion.<br><br>Having said that im going to buy <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Codex Magica</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> as It looks really interesting. <p></p><i></i>

Reply to Darklo....

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:57 am
by Floyd Smoots
....I will admit that I have really, actually, never seen a Texe Marrs video, nor read a Texe Marrs book. Why not, Floyd, you all ask? Well, it's mainly because I have read so many books on the same theme; and seen, also, many more video tapes on the that theme. I was trying to keep you folks' weapons in "flame off" mode here, in a civilized discussion of point/counterpoint by not posting an opinion, but that is for wimps.<br><br>Still, no flaming, or name-calling on my part. I HAVE checked out Texe Marrs' website for quite some time, about a year. for quite some time, I had deleted his bookmark on my browser, but only because, I felt that I wasn't learning anything new, that I had not already read or viewed, too many times to count.<br><br>Speaking strictly here, from a fundamentalist Christian point of view, I have been unable to find any unscriptural (Holy Bible-type) flaws in his posits on his site. That doesn't mean that I win, you lose, in any way here, in a respectful discussion.<br><br>It means only that, if you want to Rigorously Learn what fundamentalist Christians (not mega-church supporting, contemporary-christian-music-listening, apostasy-preaching charlatan folk), actually believe, I think Texe Marrs speaks for scripture. That doesn't mean you have to like what the Holy Bible, or Texe Marrs says, only that you should make an effort to actually understand the position written/taken by those who do belive in it as unalterable truth for the ages past, present age, and ages to come.<br><br>It's kind of like a strawberry Slurpee (Registered TM of Southland Corp., USA). Either you like the taste of strawberries, and you're going to buy it, or you really hate strawberries, and you wouldn't taste or take one if it were offered for free.<br><br>Rigorous Point being, you can lie about strawberries; you can hide or cover up strawberries; you can free-thinkingly hate strawberries. You can ignore the fact that strawberries exist, but you cannot, in any scientific or genetic way cause strawberries to cease to exist, unless, of course, "you" just happen to have some really big nukes, in which case, all bets are off.<br><br>And, in the end, when no one is left, to argue about anything anymore, because we're all, either in a prison camp, or dead, isn't "IT" sorta, kinda, mostly about "Who's got the most nukes, the biggest nukes, and just WHO is going to be the FIRST Crazy Bastard on the Block to use theirs? I mean, c'mon here people. Who was the first dumb bastard bully to actually destroy, not One, but TWO cities full of daddies, mommies, children, aunts, uncles, etc.???<br><br>think about it........<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

Re: Marrs and some other satellites

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:00 am
by thurnandtaxis
Ol' Texe kinda freaks me out, his face has a weird look to me<br>that seems to thinly disguise a deep hatred. However, I am curious<br>about his Codex Magica. So it's something I'd look at through a<br>filter if I were to buy it. I don't think his scholarship is quite up to the level of that of Jim Marrs. Or even Micheal Hoffman, whose "Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare" is a classic in the field.<br>-However, Mr. Hoffman is quite the -um, shall we say- "anti-zionist"<br>or "anti-talmudist", and an avowed "revisionist". While much of his opinions in those matters turn me off- I do think there is some worth to his "Secret Societies" book. <br><br><br>On the subject of the rather more ammenable Mr. Jim Marrs his book "Rule By Secrecy" is one that I recommend as a sort of Conspiracy 101. Yet again, by the end of the book he brings in the<br>good ol "Watchers" aka "Elohim" aka "Annunaki" we're off in<br>Icke terrritory. And that is a place many care not to venture.<br><br><br>I read "Behold A Pale Horse" back when it first came out and found<br>the "O.H. Krill" Area 51 stuff to be a bit hard to swallow. -Very X-Files like. However, his inclusion of "Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars" really struck me as an apt synopsis of our military-industrial<br>society. Yet, the recently revealed author of SWFQW, Hartford Van Dyke, seems to be something of an enigmatic figure who has found himself jailed by the so-called PTB for financial securities violations. A crook to some, a hero to others...<br><br>That's my brief take on these subjects, it's a Mystery Suprise Box<br>style grab-bag, depending on how much credence you want to give to any perspective. And how much they stand up to cross-reference and deconstruction of motive or world-view.<br><br>In my experience it's kinda like looking for mind-expanding mushrooms in a cow pasture. Fun, and potentially enlightening with<br>a risk of ingesting toxins, just watch where you step and look out<br>for shots from angry ranchers.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>


PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:07 am
by Floyd Smoots
....Don't try to put any of those cow patties in your pipe. They probably will not give you any visions, only bad breath <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src= ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p></p><i></i>

Listed by the Short Hairs....

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:18 am
by Floyd Smoots
FWIW, I, personally only, do NOT consider the following people to be Bible-believing Christians. My opinion only:<br>Billy Graham<br>Pat Robertson<br>Jimmy Carter<br>George H.W. Bush<br>George W. Bush<br>Bill (duh) or Hillary Clinton<br>Jerry Falwell<br>Jack Van Impe (sorry, Jack, I ran outta $$$$$)<br>Creflo Dollar<br>Benny Hinn<br>Oral Roberts<br>Kathryn Kuhlman (sp?)<br>Robert Schuller<br>....tell you what, people, I've got a website bookmarked at work, and I'll get it in the next few whiles, post the link, and you'll at least, if you're interested, find who is faithful, and who (and why) has been outed as a well-paid shill for the NWO and the PTB. Fair enough?<br><br>added on edit: That is, if you even care to know what the fundies really think about "who's seing who, who's bein' true, and who's car's parked next door?".<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=>Floyd Smoots</A> at: 3/2/06 10:22 pm<br></i>

Re: Thurnandtaxis -"Marrs and some other satellites&quo

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:12 am
by Hugh Manatee Wins
lol. Funny mushroom hunting metaphor.<br><br>It has been suggested to me by a companion more wary than I am in general that many parapolitical writers dip themselves in the UFO or 'alien origins' stream of narrative as a precautionary prophylactic to 'problems' that were too hard to overcome for Steve Kangas, Danny Cassalaro, Hunter Thompson, and many others.<br><br>It has even been suggested to me that Jeff is smart enough to do the same thing.<br><br>So I don't hold it against anyone for putting some insurance in their table of contents and consider it a possible motive for going to subjects that I wouldn't.<br><br>This means that some push the envelope of mainstream credibility for insurance while others push the envelope to tear it apart. Can we tell which is which?<br><br>I think this happens with politicians, too. Some know there be wolves and don't want to get Wellstoned while some are actually working for the wolves. <br><br>Meanwhile, anonymous posters at discussion boards scorn as cowardly or complicit those who don't smack the wolf in the chops or poke the bear fearlessly. Once you lose anonymity and expose yourself to crowds professionally, longevity and security become closer friends than previously. Ask any public figure. <p></p><i></i>

precautionary prophylactics

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:31 am
by Rigorous Intuition
<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"It has even been suggested to me that Jeff is smart enough to do the same thing."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>No, I'm not smart enough to do that. Besides, UFO research has its own casualty count.<br> <p></p><i></i>

Re: Kathy Sullivan and Texe Marrs.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:04 am
by Hugh Manatee Wins
Yikes. Is there any such thing as 'just a little evil'?!<br><br>And I don't mean to impune your intellectual integrity or motives, Jeff, just to pass on what my wary companion said.<br><br>(Really, UFO writing has a cost? Hunh.)<br><br>She had contact with physics researchers who gave conferences which brought out people both claiming to be alien abductees and some spooks. Gave her kind of an 'Icke' feeling, pun intended.<br><br>That grim menagerie of masks made her less-inclined to go out to the human zoo at all anymore. Women must be more cautious in general and are, seems to me, usually more tuned in as canaries in the coal mine of life.<br><br>That ole amygdala has its uses.<br> <p></p><i></i>

Re: Floyd's short-hair list

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:53 pm
by thurnandtaxis
Man, that Creflo Dollar reeeally gets my dander up with his "prosperity" <br>ministries. I'm not usually the type to wish for a harsh judgement on anyone but I'd love to see those carny hucksters get a good old fashioned tar-and-feathering!<br><br>PTL - Pass The Loot!<br><br>Y'know a friend of mine's dad ran the infamous CTN, Christian Television<br>Network, out of Clearwater Fl. Apparently he ended up doing some time for shennanigans involving the S and L scandal. I guess, though, there was some reward for his taking a "fall". His wife was among the first<br>to get a job with FEMA! <p></p><i></i>

Re: Jeff's post today mentions 'the Greys' arriving in 1973.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:06 pm
by Hugh Manatee Wins
Here's my comment posted to his front page essay. I referred back to this thread.<br>--------------<br><br>Spooks confound our ability to make connections of understanding in four key ways:<br>1) Scorning trying at all as paranoid 'conspiracy theory'<br>2) Stretching connectedness beyond the envelope of credibility/comprehension<br>3) Hijacking keywords as a distraction<br>4) Running parallel narratives to discredit the target narrative.<br><br>I addressed creating parallel narratives and hijacking keywords in this discussion board thread:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The examples I cited were-<br>>Texe and Jimm Marrs<br>>Ward Churchill's "little Eichmanns" comment and <br>CIA hiring Eichmann's assistants after WWII.<br>>Fox TV's 'Lone Gunman' series foreshadowing 9/11 plus the 'X Files.'<br><br>I see the same tactics back in the mid-70s described by Jeff's post today in his comment-<br><br>"...once Crowley's cipher was cracked in the mid-70s, "contact without communication" began to predominate: "after 1973, the 'personal aliens with funny names' were nearly universally replaced" by impersonal "greys."<br><br>In 1973 Air Force-CIA liason officer L. Fletcher Prouty published 'The Secret Team' detailing how the CIA had become the shadow government.<br>It was suppressed and revived years later so we can now read it online-<br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>One expression being used to describe the CIA's corporate-spook culture by Prouty and other whistleblowers was 'The Grey Men.'<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :| --><img src= ALT=":|"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>(Buckminster Fuller called the CIA the "Corporate Invisible Army.")<br><br><br>The New Left's rebellion against corporate capitalism and awareness of intelligence agency control mechanisms inspired a renewed propaganda effort to overload everyone's ability to tell up from down much like inducing a cultural LSD vision.<br><br>I've found a number of online stories by 'insiders' that weave everything the CIA and Pentagon want to obscure into a wild tale that few would give credence to.<br><br>I read them to see exactly what the Powers That Be want us not to know like picking out a murder weapon thrown into a septic tank.<br><br>So many ways to confound.<br>Thanks, Jeff.<br> <p></p><i></i>