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Moussaoui's revelations

Postby Qutb » Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:53 pm

So what is everyone's take on Moussaoui? He says some interesting things.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I had knowledge that the two towers would be hit, but I did not have the details," Moussaoui told jurors after taking the witness stand in his own defense.<br><br>Moussaoui said that while he didn't know the "precise date to the day" of the planned terrorist attacks, he knew they would come soon after his arrest in August 2001 in Minnesota. He said he made sure he had a radio in his jail cell. <br><br>When the first news reports on September 11 described a fire at the trade center, Moussaoui said, "I immediately understood."<br><br>(...)<br><br>Moussaoui testified that had he not been arrested he would have tried to fly into the White House on a fifth hijacked plane. <br><br>His testimony differed from an earlier admission on one key point: On Monday, Moussaoui said the White House attack was to have taken place on September 11. Earlier Moussaoui said it was to have been part of a later wave of attacks. <br><br>In an extraordinary revelation, Moussaoui also named Reid as one of his team members. <br><br>Reid was subdued by passengers in December 2001 when he attempted to set off a bomb in his shoe on board an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami. The plane was diverted to Boston, where it landed safely and Reid was arrested. He is serving a life prison term.<br><br>Reid has written Moussaoui at least once during their incarceration. <br><br>(...)<br><br>There were no dramatic outbursts and no speeches. Instead, Moussaoui spoke in moderate, even soft tones. Within 30 minutes, he had undone more than four years of his defense team's work. <br><br>(...)<br><br>Under cross examination, Moussaoui repeatedly expressed no remorse for what happened on September 11.<br><br>Referring to an aerial view of the trade center rubble, prosecutor Rob Spencer asked Moussaoui if he was "happy that happened."<br><br>"That's correct," Moussaoui said.<br><br>Spencer also asked Moussaoui if he would have used the short knives he possessed to cut the throats of flight crews.<br><br>"Possibly, if it is necessary," he said.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Moussaoui acknowledged that he had "rejoiced" at hearing a United Flight 93 flight attendant beg for her life on a recovered flight recorder. <br><br>Earlier, under questioning by one of his attorneys, Gerald Zerkin, Moussaoui dispelled the idea that he was intended to be the 20th hijacker on September 11 -- the missing fifth man on Flight 93, which crashed in a Pennsylvania field.<br><br>But Moussaoui said he knew the Lebanese pilot of that plane, Ziad Jarrah, from Afghanistan, where the two men had conversed in French. <br><br>Moussaoui also admitted knowing lead 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta. He said he knew Atta was "big time" because he saw him frequently in Afghanistan in the company of al Qaeda operations leader Khalid Shaiykh Mohammed.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Moussaoui said he spent a total of three and half years in al Qaeda camps and became a specialist in using household explosives.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>His English fluency and his French passport made him "special" to al Qaeda, he said, insisting he was only an "intermediate" player. <br><br>Moussaoui said he initially declined when the group's military leader, Mohammed Atef, asked in 1999 if he was interested in hijacking planes and crashing them into buildings. <br><br>Agreed to martyrdom<br>The next year, he said, he agreed to the martyrdom mission. <br><br>Moussaoui admitted his "dream," sanctioned by al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, to crash a plane into the White House, when he pleaded guilty 11 months ago to joining the conspiracy. But at that time, he said his White House attack was to follow 9/11.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>He testified Monday that his knowledge of the conspiracy was compartmentalized and that he had "specific involvement only for my own plane."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>Moussaoui took the stand Monday over the objections of his defense team. He said he had been waiting four years to tell his story. <br><br>(...)<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>When Zerkin asked Moussaoui why he lied, Moussaoui replied, "Because I am al Qaeda."<br><br>"The Prophet says, 'war is deceit,' " Moussaoui later told prosecutor Robert Spencer. "You're allowed to lie for jihad. You're allowed any technique to defeat your enemy."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>After Moussaoui testifies, the defense plans to present statements from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the architect of the conspiracy, plot facilitator Ramzi Binalshibh and other top al Qaeda detainees being held as "enemy combatants" at undisclosed military locations overseas.<br><br>The jury will hear written substitutions for their live testimony.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/27/moussaoui/" target="top">link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Moussaoui's revelations

Postby NewKid » Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:07 pm

I think most of this we've heard before, but this is some weird shit:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>In an extraordinary revelation, Moussaoui also named Reid as one of his team members. <br><br>Reid was subdued by passengers in December 2001 when he attempted to set off a bomb in his shoe on board an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami. The plane was diverted to Boston, where it landed safely and Reid was arrested. He is serving a life prison term.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Moussaoui's revelations

Postby Qutb » Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:21 pm

Well, he has admitted that he lies and that "war is deceit", so this may simply be another one. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Moussaoui's revelations

Postby HMKGrey » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:58 pm

Weird shit to be sure. <br><br>The gang that couldn't fly straight get's less and less convincing. <br><br>So now, on top of all the other leaps of faith we're supposed to make about the hijackers, we're also supposed to believe that they had no operational integrity whatsoever and a whole slew of characters knew about this 'operation' but all our spooks didn't? <br><br>In fact, according to Moussaoui this plot was well known by all involved - no such thing as a cell here... no such concept as 'needs to know' security. Oh no. This lot were all running around and running their mouths off about it to each other. Yet when it came to it... by God they turned pro, didn't they? It was all cool as ice and remarkable flying skills at that point. <br><br>I don't know what this joker's trial really means in the scheme of things here but forchrissakes this whole thing is actually becoming farce now and I'm actually starting to move from LIHOP to MIHOP on the basis that these clowns couldn't have organized a punch up a soccer game, let alone the bigegst terror op in history. It may have strated out as LIHOP but now I'm strating to think that at the end of the day, as push came to shove (very literally), this turned MIHOP. <br><br>Bastards. <br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Moussaoui's revelations

Postby Qutb » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:14 am

HMKGrey said -<br><br>"In fact, according to Moussaoui this plot was well known by all involved"<br><br>That's not exactly what he said. From the article: <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"He testified Monday that his knowledge of the conspiracy was compartmentalized and that he had "specific involvement only for my own plane."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> "<br><br>and<br><br>"Moussaoui said that while he didn't know the "precise date to the day" of the planned terrorist attacks, he knew they would come soon after his arrest in August 2001 in Minnesota"<br><br>Moussaoui is obviously not the sharpest knife. But he says that he was selected because of his French passport and fluency in English. It seems the al-Qa'ida leadership had serious doubts about him though, at least one of the alleged masterminds of the Bojinka plot, <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/crime/terrorists/hambali/" target="top">Hambali</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, who met Moussaoui in Malaysia in 2000 (but apparently they changed their minds - or did they?):<br><br>"The next day, Bafana tried to take Moussaoui to get flight training in Malaysia, the reason al Qaeda sent him there, according to the 9/11 commission, but it didn't work out.<br><br>Bafana said he and al Qaeda's main contact in Southeast Asia, "Hambali," were wary of Moussaoui.<br><br>"You thought Mr. Moussaoui was cuckoo, right?" Bafana was asked on the tape by defense attorney Frank Dunham, who is no longer on the case.<br><br>"Yes," Bafana said.<br><br>"And you couldn't wait to get him out of there?" Dunham asked<br><br>"Yes," the witness said."<br>(<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/08/moussaoui.trial/index.html" target="top">link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->)<br><br>When he keeps changing his story, I'm thinking he sees himself as a good soldier feeding disinformation to the enemy. His claim of being part of a hijacker team with Richard Reid may be an example of that.<br><br>He does seem to have a death wish. Maybe he wasn't really going to participate in a hijacking. Maybe he had more of a "logistical" or support role, and did flight training just in case a stand-in was needed. And now he sees this as his big chance to achieve martyrdom? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Moussaoui's revelations

Postby NewKid » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:30 pm

To me, this guy has the credibility of someone like Henry Lee Lucas or something. There's just no telling what to believe. But somewhere in there are probably some good nuggets of truth. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Moussaoui's revelations

Postby OnoI812 » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:59 pm

This part here:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I had knowledge that the two towers would be hit, but I did not have the details," Moussaoui told jurors after taking the witness stand in his own defense.<br><br>Moussaoui said that while he didn't know the "precise date to the day" of the planned terrorist attacks, he knew they would come soon after his arrest in August 2001 in Minnesota. He said he made sure he had a <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>radio</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> in his jail cell.<br><br>When the first news reports on September 11 described a fire at the trade center, Moussaoui said, "I immediately understood."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>is pretty much what Alex Jones was saying on-Air, from about <br>July on. Why would they give him a Radio, Again? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Moussaoui's revelations

Postby Qutb » Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:11 pm

I dunno - what's Jones' take on it? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Moussaoui's revelations

Postby HMKGrey » Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:25 pm

From the NY Observer - Gail Sheehy<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Earlier this summer, FBI Director Robert Mueller III and several senior agents received a group of about 20 visitors in a briefing room of the J. Edgar Hoover Building in Washington, D.C. The director himself narrated a PowerPoint presentation that summarized the numbers of agents and leads and evidence the FBI had collected in the 18-month course of its ongoing investigation of Penttbom, the clever neologism the bureau had invented to reduce the sites of devastation on 9-11 to one word: Pent for Pentagon, Pen for Pennsylvania, tt for the Twin Towers and bom for the four planes that the government had been forewarned could be used as weapons -- even bombs -- but chose to ignore.<br><br>After the formal meeting, senior agents in the room faced a grilling by Kristen Breitweiser, a 9-11 widow whose cohorts are three other widowed moms from New Jersey.<br><br>"I don't understand, with all the warnings about the possibilities of al-Qaeda using planes as weapons, and the Phoenix Memo from one of your own agents warning that Osama bin Laden was sending operatives to this country for flight-school training, why didn't you check out flight schools before Sept. 11?"<br><br>"Do you know how many flight schools there are in the U.S.? Thousands," a senior agent protested. "We couldn't have investigated them all and found these few guys."<br><br>"Wait, you just told me there were too many flight schools and that prohibited you from investigating them before 9-11," Breitweiser persisted. "How is it that a few hours after the attacks, the nation is brought to its knees, and miraculously FBI agents showed up at Embry-Riddle flight school in Florida where some of the terrorists trained?"<br><br>"We got lucky," was the reply.<br><br>Breitweiser then asked the agent how the FBI had known exactly which ATM in Portland, Me., would yield a videotape of Mohammed Atta, the leader of the attacks. The agent got some facts confused, then changed his story. When Breitweiser wouldn't be pacified by evasive answers, the senior agent parried, "What are you getting at?"<br><br>"I think you had open investigations before Sept. 11 on some of the people responsible for the terrorist attacks," she said.<br><br>"We did not," the agent said unequivocally.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>If it walks like a duck... </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Moussaoui's revelations

Postby OnoI812 » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:14 pm

sorry for clarity. July 2001, Jones was saying those things before Mossauri was arrested.<br><br><br>He hasn't weighed in on these latest revelations , as he's been rebroadcasting some of last weeks show.<br><br>But I suspect he'll come down on the side of Moussauri is a patsy. He might even speculate there is some kind of behind the scene deal going on here.<br><br>I'll post it when he weighs in.<br><br>here it is<br><br>Moussaoui Wears Stun Belt During Trial?<br><br>total911info.com | March 28, 2006<br><br>If you're looking for a reason why Zacarias Moussaoui suddenly testified today to a version of the 9/11 plotline that sounds more like the Official story than even the official Whitewash Commission report, this video may have the answer. <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://total911.info/zackmstun.wmv">total911.info/zackmstun.wmv</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>In it, NBC news reporter Pete Williams lets slip that Moussaoui is wearing a "Stun belt" underneath his clothing controlled by US Marshals. MSNBC host Dan Abrams gets some more details on the stun belt.<br><br>A taste of the exchange:<br><br> WILLIAMS: The old outbursts were gone... He was very docile today... We believe that he's wearing one of those stun belts, and it may be that he was very worried about doing anything that would cause those Marshals to press the button....<br><br> ABRAMS: A stun belt? They literally have sOmething around his waist? That they can push a button and?<br><br> WILLIAMS: [Pause] Well...<br><br> Only in 21st-century Amerika!<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.total911.info/2006/03/msnbc-video-moussaoui-wore-stun-belt.html">www.total911.info/2006/03...-belt.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=onoi812>OnoI812</A> at: 3/30/06 3:02 am<br></i>
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Re: Moussaoui's revelations

Postby coffin_dodger » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:10 pm

Sept 11 conspirator Moussaoui says Saudi royals backed al Qaeda Reuters 4 Feb 2015

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A former al Qaeda operative imprisoned for life for his role in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks has told lawyers for victims of the attacks that members of the Saudi royal family supported the Islamic militant group.

Zacarias Moussaoui made the statements in testimony filed in Manhattan federal court on Tuesday by lawyers for attack victims who accuse Saudi Arabia in a suit of providing material support to al Qaeda.

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Re: Moussaoui's revelations

Postby The Consul » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:02 pm

It would also be interesting to find out if Moussaoui knew anything about Paul Wellstone or Daniel Berg.
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Re: Moussaoui's revelations

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Re: Moussaoui's revelations

Postby American Dream » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:17 pm

Here is the specific cite:

http://www.historycommons.org/context.j ... gmoussaoui

Autumn 1999: Bizarre Connection Between Moussaoui and Future Beheading Victim

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Nick Berg is an American who will become known for being beheaded on video in Iraq in 2004 (see March 24-May 11, 2004). It will later come out that he had a curious connection to Zacarias Moussaoui. In the autumn of 1999, Berg is a university student in Norman, Oklahoma, where Moussaoui will attend flight school in early 2001. According to Berg’s father, one day Nick Berg is riding a bus to his classes and he meets Moussaoui on the bus. Moussaoui asks him for his password so he can use Berg’s laptop to check the Internet. Berg gives him his password. FBI investigators later will discover Moussaoui’s use of this password, and will interview Berg about it in 2002. Berg will be cleared of any criminal connection with Moussaoui. Jayna Davis, a former NBC reporter known for her controversial investigation of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, calls the explanation as to why Moussaoui had Berg’s password “totally nonsensical.” She will note the low odds of anyone being able to log onto the Internet on a bus in 1999 and will say, “You’re sitting on a bus. It’s a five- to ten-minute ride. How in the world would a stranger sitting next to you say, ‘Hey, can I borrow your laptop computer because I want to log on to your e-mail?’” She also notes that the FBI insists Berg gave his password to an acquaintance of Moussaoui, while Berg’s family insists it was Moussaoui himself on the bus. [NEWSMAX, 5/18/2004; CBS NEWS, 5/21/2004] The London Times will note that this acquaintance “is believed to have been Hussein al-Attas,” Moussaoui’s roommate when he will be arrested in Minnesota in August 2001. The Times will note that Berg’s “past links to an al-Qaeda terrorist have raised questions in some quarters as to whether he might even have been working for the intelligence services.” [LONDON TIMES, 5/23/2004]
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Re: Moussaoui's revelations

Postby stefano » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:18 am

That Prince Turki is a fascinating character.

New allegations of Saudi involvement in 9/11

By Jim Sciutto and Laura Koran, CNN

Updated 1552 GMT (2352 HKT) February 4, 2015

Washington (CNN) New allegations have emerged from the man described as the 20th 9/11 hijacker, alleging members of the Saudi royal family supported al Qaeda.

Zacarias Moussaoui, who pleaded guilty in 2005 to six terror-related charges, makes the allegations in a sworn statement contained in a brief submitted Tuesday as part of an ongoing civil case by the families of 9/11 victims.

In the late 1990s, Moussaoui says, he was tasked by Osama bin Laden to create a digital database cataloging al Qaeda's donors. Every day for two or three months, he says, he entered names of the group's donors into a Toshiba computer, along with how much they gave.

Moussaoui, who has been in U.S. custody for more than 13 years, said the list featured high-profile people, including several members of the Saudi Royal family, whom he named in his testimony.

They include Prince Turki al-Faisal Al Saud, former director-general of Saudi Arabia's Foreign Intelligence Service and ambassador to the United States.


Moussaoui, a French national, said he was chosen for the database job because of his education and ability to speak English.

"Shaykh Osama wanted to keep a record who give money ... who is to be listened to or who contribute to -- to the jihad," he said in sometimes stuttered answers.

CNN cannot independently confirm the claims Moussaoui makes in his new testimony, which was made under oath as part of a brief filed in opposition to a motion to dismiss a case against Saudi Arabia for its alleged involvement in the 9/11 attacks.

Unlike a deposition, Moussaoui was not subjected to cross-examination by the defendants' lawyers.

Questions about Moussaoui's credibility, Saudi involvement

Moussaoui's credibility has been called into question before. And though Saudi Arabia's role in the attacks has long been a topic of suspicion, the 9/11 Commission's report, released in 2004, concluded there was no evidence the Saudi government funded al Qaeda.

"It does not appear that any government other than the Taliban financially supported al Qaeda before 9/11, although some governments may have contained al Qaeda sympathizers who turned a blind eye to al Qaeda's fund-raising activities," the report said. "Saudi Arabia has long been considered the primary source of al Qaeda funding, but we have found no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded the organization."

Still, the report noted in parentheses, "This conclusion does not exclude the likelihood that charities with significant Saudi government sponsorship diverted funds to al Qaeda."

In a statement reacting to these latest allegations, the Saudi Embassy in Washington said, "There is no evidence to support Moussaoui's claim. The Sept. 11 attack has been the most intensely investigated crime in history and the findings show no involvement by the Saudi government or Saudi officials."

The Saudi statement also referred to the assessment of the 9/11 Commission.

"Moussaoui is a deranged criminal whose own lawyers presented evidence that he was mentally incompetent. His words have no credibility," the statement said. "(Moussaoui's) goal in making these statements only serves to get attention for himself and try to do what he could not do through acts of terrorism -- to undermine Saudi-U.S. relations."

Claims about the Saudi royal family

Moussaoui's new sworn statements were taken in October at a supermax prison in Florence, Colorado, where he has been held since his life sentence was handed down in 2006.

In them, Moussaoui goes on to say he met with members of the Saudi royal family in person more than once in Saudi Arabia, in order to hand-deliver letters to and from al Qaeda's notorious leader.

"I was introduced as the messenger for Shaykh Osama bin Laden," Moussaoui told attorneys on Oct. 21.

"Did they treat you well during the [first] visit?" the lawyer asked.

"Extremely well," Moussaoui said.

Moussaoui said he traveled on private jets and in limousines. His meetings took place in luxury hotels and even Saudi palaces.

He was also given money for travel expenses at the Saudi Embassy in Islamabad, which he considered a bribe, he said.

Furthermore, Moussaoui said his primary point of contact with the royal family was Prince Turki al-Faisal Al Saud, and that Turki introduced him to other prominent members of the family, including another former Saudi ambassador to Washington, Prince Bandar bin Sultan.

Tuesday's court filing also included statements by three members of the 9/11 Commission, former Secretary of the Navy John Lehman, and former Sens. Bob Graham and Bob Kerrey.

Their statements do not support the specific claims Moussaoui makes, but do say that further investigation of Saudi government involvement is necessary.


"I am convinced that there was a direct line between at least some of the terrorists who carried out the Sept. 11th attacks and the government of Saudi Arabia," Graham wrote.

Kerrey told CNN on Friday that while he can't verify Moussaoui's specific allegations, he does believe the new information highlights the need for further investigation.

"It deepens suspicions that everything about Saudi involvement is not as well-known as it should be," he said.

'No hint' of direct Saudi leadership involvement

But this suspicion of the Saudi government is not shared by all.

Robert Jordan, who was U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia from 2001 to 2003, told CNN he "was given no hint whatsoever of direct Saudi leadership involvement -- any financing or any planning -- for these attacks."

Jordan said he was regularly in touch with Robert Mueller and George Tenet, who led the FBI and CIA, respectively, and felt assured over the course of their investigation that allegations against the Saudi government were without merit.

"A lot of it was my own questioning," said Jordan." 'Are you sure? Have you made certain that none of the people we're dealing with now at the senior level had anything to do with these attacks or with supporting the terrorists who financed and orchestrated them?' And I was routinely and universally given the information that they felt comfortable at least at the senior level they hadn't.
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Moussaoui has made incriminating claims about the Saudi government before.

Last November, he said that Saudi Embassy officials were involved in a plot to shoot down Air Force One "to assassinate Bill Clinton and/or Hillary Clinton."

He also said at that time that he had met with a Saudi prince and princess in early 2001 when he was taking flying lessons in Norman, Oklahoma, and that she "gave me money."

Lawyers for the Saudi government denied those claims, saying pointedly, "The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia had no role in the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001."

And the Saudis are not the only ones who have refuted Moussaoui's account of the 9/11 plot. In 2006, Osama bin Laden released an audiotape in which he denied Moussaoui's assertion that he was supposed to strike the White House with a 747 on September 11, 2001.

"I am the one in charge of the 19 brothers," bin Laden said, referring to the 19 known hijackers, "and I never assigned brother Zacarias to be with them in that mission."

Other Moussaoui claims drew scrutiny

Many -- if not all -- of Moussaoui's statements over the years have been called into question.

During his 2006 sentencing trial, an expert witness testified that Moussaoui suffered from delusional paranoid schizophrenia. He was prone to loud and disruptive outbursts during that trial, and guards testified he would sometimes make irrational claims to them.

He has also asked for certain concessions in exchange for testimony, such as a warmer cell in a different unit of the supermax prison.

Beyond his claims about the donor database, Moussaoui also says in this latest sworn statement that he was involved in a series of other plots against U.S. targets.

Specifically, he says he was given explosives training to attack the U.S. Embassy in London with a truck bomb.

"I conducted a trial test of explosives for bomb of 750 kilogram of ammonium nitrate," he said. "The plot was agreed with Shaykh Osama bin Laden."

Moussaoui said his team in that plot included Richard Reid, known as "the shoe bomber," who Moussaoui previously said was supposed to take part in the 9/11 attacks -- allegations that Reid has denied.

The plot against the embassy in London was eventually canceled, Moussaoui said, and he was sent to Malaysia to explore the possibility of attacking the U.S. Embassy in Kuala Lumpur. That plot was also canceled, Moussaoui told his attorneys, so he went to the U.S. to look into attacking Air Force One -- the plot he first revealed in November.

"My plan was not to launch the attack," he insisted in the statement. "It was only to see the feasibility of the attack."

CNN's Jennifer Rizzo, Deborah Feyerick and Kristina Sgueglia contributed to this report.
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