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The Controlled Demolition of the World Trade Center

Postby xsic bastardx » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:01 am

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Re: The Controlled Demolition of the World Trade Center

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:58 am

Greg Syzamanski, eh? <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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CD: The question is not "if"; it is "how&q

Postby darkbeforedawn » Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:26 pm

<br>Clearly Greg Sysmanski is disinfo. This has been out for awhile.<br>The following could be real disinfo, also for<br> all I know, only adding to the fires of divisiveness now rife in the truth movement. But to me it does draw attention to a fact long neglected: M<br>ini nukes were probably used in this attack, yet Jones ignores this. Mini nukes could have been provided only by the US or the Israeli govs. That could be a motive for obscuring the truth with prolonged rants about thermite (or is it mate?" I am in no position to comment on the science. Perhaps others here are?<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=trouble_with_jones">nomoregames.net/index.php...with_jones</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: CD: The question is not "if"; it is "h

Postby Dreams End » Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:50 pm

Wait a second...<br><br>You mean there's a possiblity the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: CD: The question is not "if"; it is "h

Postby darkbeforedawn » Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:54 pm

Controlled Demoliton was of course used. The real question is did this demolition make use of a new technology in the form of mini nukes. If the answer is "yes", then the pentagon and/or Mossad would have been the only sources of this technology. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: CD: The question is not "if"; it is "h

Postby Jezebelladonna » Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:29 pm

Dreams End:<br><br>You crack me UP, brutha. Thanks for brightening this board with your wry wit. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: mini nukes

Postby OpLan » Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:19 pm

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/military.htm" target="top">Heres a website</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> I came across a long time ago.Thought it might be relevent to the thread.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9845/nuke4hq7.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>The website also has links rebuttals to this theory on the main page under the nuke photo.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.terrorize.dk/911/" target="top">Terrorize.dk</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> is another site I read years ago..I think I first heard of the 'woolworth bldg missiles' from this site.Was that story ever investigated conclusively?Did Jeff and the regulars here ever dissect the story?<br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=oplan>OpLan</A> at: 9/4/06 3:09 pm<br></i>
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Re: mini nukes

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:11 pm

<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/3518/nuke2bk5.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/7814/nuke3nm4.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>That's an extremely powerful image.<br><br>*disclaimer: I am not as strongly versed in 911 discussions as others here, so please keep that in mind as I'm just one person thinking aloud and I've had walking pneumonia for the last 4 days*<br><br>When you slice through all this shit in those pages, there's one thing that filters through for me, and that's the discussion about the prohibitive cost of repairing these buildings, and I've seen it mentioned elsewhere in the past. If the buildings had degnerated materials as has been claimed in the past, maybe CD wasn't neccessary at all to begin with, and maybe that's why CD _could be_ such a well-greased disinfo trail. Matter of fact, what we see in the pictures shows that aside from building 7, the Twins came down pretty badly, fanning out like shown.<br><br>So what if:<br><br>These towers were liabilities due to emminent infrastructure failures.(this doesn't surprise me at all with good old American corner-cutting, or *someone* inside exploiting materials purchased on paper against materials actually used in the construction of the buildings. I saw this reality myself after Hurricane Andrew when ENTIRE communities were razed to the ground, I mean destroyed UTTERLY(I used to drive past one all the time and had many friends that lived in the most notorius one; there was a giant lawsuit due to poor building components and bribed inspectors, but I forget the communities name) with older, superior homes mere blocks away that survived intact. I'm not saying it was a Conspiracy to begin with; it could have been the work of one man making a fortune on the Tower's construction through the use of inferior materials which were believed by everyone to be something else.<br><br>The cost of repair(whether prohibitive or not) exceeded what the owners were willing to invest in such an endeavor.<br><br>They knew CD would never work without significant collateral damage, both in terms of damage to surrounding buildings as much as the toxic dust that's alledgedly killed/will be killing so many people. I strongly believe that this would have been extensively investigated by the building's investors/owners.<br><br>I'm really sick right now and not formulating my thoughts and words well, but I think what I'm getting at is this:<br><br>Say the building's failures and a refusal to address them in a conventional/morally correct manner were the prime motive for 9/11; and everything else was an additional benefit/exploit. Instead of paying billions for repair or deconstruction that would have taken years and risk of collapse regardless and the endless string of litigations that would have entailed, billions were instead earned within hours and risks were cut to zero.<br><br>This person's story reads like a stupidly written detective novel, it's arrogant and seemingly deliberately self-defeating, but it seems that elements <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>within</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> it are very, <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>very</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> valid, and maybe the purpose of this guy's sensationalist disinfo is to use as much of the truth as possible in the hopes of discrediting as much of it as possible. <br><br>When you walk away from reading this, you want to intuitively call bullshit on all of it, but what if that's exactly what someone was hoping you would do?<br><br>I don't know..9/11 is completely beyond me. Does anything I'm saying here resonate with anyone else at all?<br><br> <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: mini nukes

Postby bvonahsen » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:28 pm

The storyline that the materials used in the towers were substandard or defective and was therefore why they fell has been used against the CD proponents. I don't recall where I read that. Mostly, 9-11 is one rabbit hole I don't want to fall into. I just poke around the edges a little. <p></p><i></i>
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The controlled demolition of "the 9/11 Truth movement&q

Postby Bismillah » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:38 pm

Et, I can only say that I am sick and tired of hearing about CD and even sicker of looking at the pictures. Along with the no-plane-at-the-Pentagon tale, it is an absolute gift to the corporate media hacks who now see themselves obliged to respond in some way to the widespread scepticism about the Official Conspiracy Theory. No wonder they just love this stuff. <br><br>Meanwhile, the really obvious and important questions (Why the hell were Rumsfeld and all the other major players completely AWOL? What happened to long-standing Standard Operating Procedures for Air Defense? Who planted the anthrax? Who did the insider trading? Etcetera) are not just completely unanswered but almost never asked. <br><br>Presumably it's because nobody can make a shit-hot disaster movie out of those questions. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The controlled demolition of "the 9/11 Truth moveme

Postby darkbeforedawn » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:04 am

Well there is the sensational aspect to a quarter mile high building just crumbling into dust and short pieces of steel. But if you study the psyops aspect to it all, you realize that the spectacle of the WTC debacle, the smoke, the tiny leaping figures, the enormous clouds of dust etc was the mechanism they used to shut down critical thinking. It was too horrifying--people just like ourselves just going about their business roasted to death in their offices--planes out of control, heroic firemen crushed in staircases YIKES. .....The calm clear dissection of this scene of horror, this crime scene, has to be the key to turn people's heads back on. It will happen. But you are right. The perps behavior is what really gives the game away.The money trail, the sudden departure in June of 01 from standard "scramble procedures" giving Cheney the authority over the airforce, the ignoring of all the warning letters---I could go on and on as I am sure you could too. BUT Healing can't take place until people see through the smoke and see that hugely reinforced steel girdered concrete buildings simply don't collapse and turn into atomized dust and regular 25 ft lengths of steel because they are hit by a plane. This accident was planned for and reinforcements built into the design. The design itself won numerous prizes, among them was an award for STRENGTH. I sympathize with your boredome and irritation in the fascination with the forensics, but it is a necessary component of being able to turn back on the lights of reason. Seeing major media squirm is delightful as well as disgusting. <p></p><i></i>
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Something for Dark Before Dawn.....

Postby xsic bastardx » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:21 am

<br><br> Just wanted to say I love your thoughts on CD. <br><br> also.....<br><br><br> A few years ago I came across a video that showed a light eminate from the bottom of WTC during the second collapse just prior to coming down. I haven't been able to ever find it again. I chalked it up to either grainy video or Disinfo/Hoax.......<br><br> Seeing as I agree with your thoughts on the possibility of Nukes in the buidling(I reckon if there were they were most likely Suitcase Nukes.....Red Mercury.....russian made......low yield....high explosion but very, very controlled......)I was wondering of you had ever seen the Video, and if so, your thoughts...... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: mini-nukes

Postby erosoplier » Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:44 am

I've tried a few times but I can't get through to those redlineav pages. That first site Oplan suggests was useful ( <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/military.htm">www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/military.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> ). <br><br>I was intuitively convinced about CD within a week after stumbling upon my first ever 911 "conspiracy" site (like: "planes and fire <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>weren't</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> sufficient to bring them down"), but including nukes into the hypothesised method, seems to bring it all together. Custom made ones, to be sure. I, like most people I imagine, never thought nukes could be clean enough/undetectable enough to be a realistic possibility, but they certainly fit the bill.<br><br>All that video evidence is only inconclusive to the untrained eye. They - the perpetrators - must have been quite pleased with how the demolitions went, but it is surprising that the scientific community hasn't rallied together to call "bullshit" on the whole thing by now. Surprising and at the same time quite understandable, i guess.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: mini-nukes

Postby greencrow0 » Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:50 am

I believe Professor Steven E. Jones says he believes there were NO nukes at the site based on radiation levels.<br><br>gc <p></p><i></i>
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Re: mini-nukes

Postby darkbeforedawn » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:03 pm

GC I suppose you could just take his word for it....other "experts" have a different view. The photos of the explosions look convincing as far as nukes go...like I said before, I'm not one to be able to comment on this. Perhaps others here are? I guess the way to go would be to research the characteristics of these new fourth generation "tactical" nukes--how much and what type of radition do they actually leave? Supposedly one of their "good" points was the lack of lasting radiation.... <p></p><i></i>
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