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I never thought to see the day...

Postby darkbeforedawn » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:19 pm

Soros funded and zionist controlled "Commondreams" website has stepped up to the plate of 9-11 truth. Go there and read the new article debunking the 9-11 Commission!! <p></p><i></i>
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It is Sibel Edmonds plus NSWA re: 9/11 Omission Panel.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:36 pm

This is a 9/11 anniversary reminder from whistleblowers of what the 9/11 Omission Panel ignored.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0905-25.htm">www.commondreams.org/views06/0905-25.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Sibel Edmonds / Bill Weaver:<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The 9/11 Commission: A Play on Nothing in Three Acts</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>On the Fifth anniversary of the September Eleven Terror Attacks, we, the National Security Whistleblowers, want to go on record one more time to reiterate the significant issues and cases that were duly reported to the 9/11 commission by those of us from the Intelligence, Aviation, and Law Enforcement communities, but ended up being censored and omitted. The failure to address such serious and relevant issues, witnesses, and information renders the report flawed and the commissioners parties to a fraud on the nation.<br><br>The following Veteran National Security experts were turned away, ignored, or censored by the 9/11 Commission, even though they had direct and relevant information related to the Commission’s investigation:<br><br>John M. Cole, Former Veteran Intelligence Operations Specialist; FBI - Mr. Cole worked for 18 years in the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division as an Intelligence Operations specialist, and was in charge of FBI’s foreign intelligence investigations covering India, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Mr. Cole had knowledge of certain activities that directly related to the terror attacks on September 11, 2001. He notified the 9/11 Commission during its investigation, but never received a response. His name and contact information was provided to the Commission as a key witness by other witnesses, but he was never contacted or interviewed.<br><br>John Vincent, Retired Special Agent, Counterterrorism; FBI - Mr. Vincent worked for the FBI for 27 1/2 years before retiring in 2002. He worked his last 8 years in counterterrorism in the FBI’s Chicago Field Office. Mr. Vincent, along with Robert Wright, exposed inefficiencies within the FBI in working counterterrorism cases, and certain warnings they had tried to pursue prior to the 9/11 attack that were directly related to Al-Qaeda’s financial network and money laundering activities. Although he was granted an interview, the commissioners’ investigators refused to let him provide them with information related to his case and the 9/11 terrorists network; they insisted on limiting the interview to only administrative and irrelevant questions and issues.<br><br>Robert Wright, Veteran Special Agent, Counterterrorism; FBI - Mr. Wright is a veteran special agent in the FBI Chicago Field Office Counterterrorism Unit. He had been investigating a suspected terrorist cell for three years, when he was informed in January 2001 that the case was being closed. Agent Wright, along with Mr. Vincent, exposed inefficiencies within the FBI in working counterterrorism cases and certain warnings they’d tried to pursue prior to the 9/11 attack that were directly related to Al-Qaeda’s financial network and money laundering activities. Three months before September 11, Wright wrote a stinging internal memo charging that the FBI was not interested in thwarting a terrorist attack, but rather "was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred." The FBI refused to allow Wright to testify before the 9/11 Commission, however, the Commission did not insist or attempt to subpoena Wright; despite the fact that it had subpoena power.<br><br>Sibel Edmonds, Former Language Specialist; FBI - Ms. Edmonds worked for the FBI’s Washington Field Office as a language specialist with Top Secret Clearance performing translations for counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations dealing with Turkey, Iran, and Turkic speaking Central Asian countries. She contacted the 9/11 Commission in May 2003 and requested a meeting to provide them with information directly related to the terrorist attack. The Commission investigators refused to meet with Edmonds and informed her that due to their limited resources and time they were not going to interview all witnesses. She was able to provide the commission with information and documents only after certain 9/11 family members intervened directly. Ms. Edmonds’ testimony was completely censored by the Commission.<br><br>Behrooz Sarshar, Former Language Specialist; FBI - Mr. Sarshar worked for the FBI’s Washington Field Office as a language specialist with Top Secret Clearance performing Farsi translations for counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations dealing with Iran and Afghanistan. He had first-hand information of prior specific warning obtained from a reliable informant in April 2001 on the terrorist attacks of September 11. Mr. Sarshar contacted the Commission directly but was refused. He was given an interview with the Commission investigators only after 9/11 family members intervened directly. Mr. Sarshar’s documented testimony was completely omitted from the commission’s final report, despite his case being publicly confirmed by Director Mueller’s Office.<br><br>Mike German, Special Agent, Counterterrorism; FBI - Mr. German served sixteen years as an FBI Special Agent and is one of the rare agents credited with actually having prevented acts of terrorism before it became the FBI's number one priority. He contacted the Commission in the spring of 2004, but did not receive a response. In 2002 he reported gross mismanagement in a post 9/11-counterterrorism investigation, which included serious violations of FBI policy and federal law. Mr. German contacted the 9/11 Commission during its investigation and requested that he be given an interview session in order to provide them with certain domestic counterterrorism investigations that he’d pursued. According to Mr. German there were links between certain domestic and international counterterrorism related to the September 11 attacks. The 9/11 Commissioners refused to acknowledge his request and never interviewed him.<br><br>Gilbert Graham, Retired Special Agent, Counterintelligence; FBI - Mr. Graham worked for the FBI’s Washington Field Office Counterintelligence Division until 2002. In February 2004 his name and contact information were provided to the Commission as a key witness with information pertinent to the Commission’s investigation. The 9/11 Commission refused to follow up and never contacted Mr. Graham.<br><br>Coleen Rowley, Retired Division Counsel; FBI - In May 2002, Coleen Rowley, as the Division Counsel at the FBI Minneapolis Office, blew the whistle on the FBI’s failure to pursue Zacarias Moussaoui’s case prior to 9/11, despite all attempts made by the Minneapolis division counterterrorism agents. She reported that FBI HQ personnel in Washington, D.C., had mishandled and neglected to take action on information provided by her division. Despite her high-profile case the commission chose not to interview Ms. Rowley. According to Ms. Rowley, no one from the FBI Minneapolis Office (several Agents had direct information) was ever asked to provide testimony, information, to the 9/11 Commission.<br><br>Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer, DIA - Colonel Shaffer provided the Commission with detailed information on intelligence and pre warning information obtained by his unit’s data mining project, Able Danger. The 9/11 commission staff received not one but two briefings on Able Danger from Mr. Shaffer and his former team members, yet did not pursue the case, did not follow up on this documented report and refused to subpoena the relevant files. Mr. Shaffer’s testimony, together with other witnesses who corroborated his testimony and information, were censored by the 9/11 Commissioners and never made it to its final report.<br><br>Dick Stoltz, Retired Special Agent; ATF- Mr. Stoltz, a veteran undercover agent with the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, had played an important role in Operation Diamondback between 1998 and 2001. The sting operation involved a group of Middle Eastern men living in New Jersey who were caught on tape in an ATF weapons sting conspiring to buy millions of dollars of weapons including components for nuclear bombs. The case came to a screeching halt with the arrest of only a handful of suspects in June of 2001 even though there was ample evidence that some of the people who were attempting to buy these weapons had connections with the Taliban, Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden himself. The 9/11 Commission refused to contact Agent Stoltz despite all attempts made by several witnesses from the intelligence & Law Enforcement Communities, and the 9/11 Family group, Jersey Moms.<br><br>Bogdan Dzakovic, Former Red Team Leader; FAA - Mr. Dzakovic had worked for the Security Division of the Federal Aviation Administration since 1987 as a Special Agent, as a Team Leader in the Federal Air Marshals, and from 1995 until September 11, 2001 was a Team Leader of the Red Team (terrorist team). Mr. Dzakovic had tried for several years prior to the 9-11 attacks to improve aviation security in the face of the ever-increasing terrorist threat. He provided the 9/11 Commission with his testimony and documented reports. His testimony and report to the Commission was completely omitted from the final report.<br><br>Linda Lewis, Retired Emergency Programs Specialist; USDA - Ms. Lewis worked for 13 years evaluating and coordinating federal, state and local preparedness for nuclear, radiological and chemical weapons emergencies. Prior to September 11, 2001, she had reported numerous inadequacies and dysfunctions in emergency preparedness, including a culture of intimidation that discouraged federal evaluators from reporting inadequacies in state and local plans and preparedness. USDA officials had thwarted her efforts to bring in terrorism experts to help the agency prepare for attacks on federal buildings, including bio-weapons attacks such as the anthrax attacks of 2001. In vain, she had urged FEMA officials to develop a national emergency communications plan and require interoperability of federally funded emergency communications equipment. In the absence of these preparations, New York City firefighters and police officers were unable to communicate critical information on September 11 at the World Trade Center. Ms. Lewis contacted the Commission and offered to provide information regarding dysfunctional government preparedness, but the Commission never responded.<br><br>Mark Burton, Senior Analyst; NSA – Mr. Burton served as an all-source threat analyst in NSA’s Information Assurance Directorate (IAD) for most of his 16-year career. He was the editor of IAD’s premier threat document; the 300+ page ISSO Global Threat Summary, and was an adjunct faculty member at NSA’s National Cryptologic School. He provided dozens of pages of relevant information to the 9/11 Commission, but was completely ignored and never asked to testify.<br><br>The above list does not include many others from the intelligence and law enforcement communities who had similarly contacted or reported to the commission but had been either turned away or censored, and of course many others’ who are still working within these agencies and are fearful of making their identities known, due to the relentless pursuit of and retaliation against whistleblowers by government agencies.<br><br>About National Security Whistleblowers Coalition<br><br>National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC), founded in August 2004, is an independent and nonpartisan alliance of whistleblowers who have come forward to address our nation’s security weaknesses; to inform authorities of security vulnerabilities in our intelligence agencies, at nuclear power plants and weapon facilities, in airports, and at our nation’s borders and ports; to uncover government waste, fraud, abuse, and in some cases criminal conduct. The NSWBC is dedicated to aiding national security whistleblowers through a variety of methods, including advocacy of governmental and legal reform, educating the public concerning whistleblowing activity, provision of comfort and fellowship to national security whistleblowers suffering retaliation and other harms, and working with other public interest organizations to affect goals defined in the NSWBC mission statement. <br><br>For more on NSWBC visit www.nswbc.org <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I never thought to see the day...

Postby professorpan » Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:21 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>zionist controlled<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>?? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I never thought to see the day...

Postby darkbeforedawn » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:58 pm

All major media in this country--including hollywood-- is controlled by rightwing republicans of the zionist persuasion. They also function as gatekeepers for so called "alternative" media such as Mother Jones, AirAmerica The Nation etc etc. They all have an agenda: Protect Israel at any cost. Commondreams did eventually publish afew articles questioning the treatment of the Palestinians etc. etc. They really really dragged their feet on 9-11. Some posters have stated Mike Malloy said some very questionable stuff about 911 (meaning 9-11truth type stuff) and that is why he was relieved of his job. P-lea-s-s-se, don't start with the anitsemitic crap. Next you'll be saying I deny the holocaust and support Hitler because I have simply looked up who runs every single major media function in the whole damn country. Do it yourself if you feel its worth talking about...I'm not really interested in discussing the issue. Its boring and if you don't know this simple fact, that zionists control the media, well I feel sorry for you, but there it is. Now why zionists don't want the 9-11 issue brought into the open is a whole other can of worms. Go figure, cause I'm through talking about that stuff. <p></p><i></i>
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seeing the day...

Postby phineas » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:01 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>All major media in this country--including hollywood-- is controlled by rightwing republicans of the zionist persuasion... P-lea-s-s-se, don't start with the anitsemitic crap. Next you'll be saying I deny the holocaust and support Hitler because I have simply looked up who runs every single major media function in the whole damn country. Do it yourself if you feel its worth talking about...I'm not really interested in discussing the issue. Its boring and if you don't know this simple fact, that zionists control the media, well I feel sorry for you, but there it is.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>thx dbd<br>I'll do my share and toss this in from the 'holding pattern' post, discussing (Jewish/Zionist/Semetic/whatever) media control:<br>(with apologies to Jeff and the man in prison in Canada for <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>speaking his opinion</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> about the Holocaust...)<br><br>[quote deleted by admin.] <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 9/6/06 7:17 pm<br></i>
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Re: seeing the day...

Postby Dreams End » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:19 pm

Phineas, to post that article and LINK to the national alliance webpage shows that you are not just a Nazi, but a stupid Nazi. Now, I hate nazis but I really hate stupid Nazis. I also particularly hate Illinois Nazis, but I have no idea if that applies to you.<br><br>Meanwhile, I think it quite fascinating that you pull the quote not only from a white racist scumbag nazi site, but the organization has this as their motto...right on top of the article you linked to, so surely you can't miss it:<br><br>"Toward a new consciousness; a new order; a new people."<br><br>New Order, huh? <br><br>dbd, I shouldn't even bother, but to confuse "gatekeeping" with Zionism is simply ridiculous. First off, the left is quite focused on the Palestinian issue. Commondreams may not be but many of the sites I see as gatekeepers certainly are very hard on Israel. counterpunch does nothing but run ex-cia articles about how Israel runs the world or whatever...okay, a little more sophisticated but it's there.<br><br>Gatekeeping is about a lot of things, nearly all of which have nothing to do with Israel. And there are different levels. Some are just obvious fronts for the dem party so articles condemning democrats are not welcome. I don't like commondreams but I imagine they fall into that category.<br><br>When you say the only issue is Israel...well, maybe that's not stormfront material like Phineas seems to like, but it does miss an awful lot. Like 60+ years of the national security state. Like the wholesale importation of Nazis into the intel and scientific communities. Like the incredible power of megacorporations. <br><br>I'm a very big advocate for understanding the idea of left gatekeeping, but if you think it's all about Israel, you are letting an awful lot of issues go untouched. Not that this post will make any difference. I just want to chime in in case new readers think this is one of "those" kinds of sites. <p></p><i></i>
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Israel is the PTB's mini me.

Postby slimmouse » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:33 pm

<br><br> A few thoughts ;<br><br> Israel is the PTB's Mini-me.<br><br> It is their version of the USA and the UK manifest in a critical part of the world.<br> <br> In who's interests is it to get us all divided by the "anti semitism" card ?<br><br> In who's interests is it ultimately beneficially to pick upon a certain party to act as their front, given a concise history of the last 60 years ( to begin with ) ?<br><br> I spent 3 years falling for that rubbish. <br><br> People are people. Israel is merely a mini hologram of the whole. And as with a hologram it is simply a fraction of the whole. A far bigger, equally racist and insiduously destructive whole.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:16 pm

Linking to and quoting from a neo-Nazi website is contrary to the <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm1.showMessage?topicID=2.topic">guidelines</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Beyond trolling and disruption, posts subject to deletion or locking will be those which<br><br>2. espouse hatred for a people based upon their race, religion, gender or sexuality</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Content of a particular quote is beside the point. If the source is fascist or espouses hate-speech, I'll delete it. <p></p><i></i>
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Well, maybe I did speak in a rash way. Sorry.

Postby darkbeforedawn » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:08 pm

You're right Dreams End. I apologize for the above post in which I grossly oversimplifed. My only excuse is I'm not having a good day..I know the issue has many facets and interests converging with big corporations and globalists' agendas. It is not simply "zionists" -- the actual role of Israel (as well as its internal politics)<br>is also in itself very complex and has many jews and nonjews confused and disoriented. So I hope the issue of media ownership, gatekeepers, and who is controlling what we know and what we are not supposed to think about is one that we could keep on exploring....the zionists agenda is a beginning but like you say, the trail leads into many other subjects and problems. <p></p><i></i>
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Maybe we could get this fairy tale past the gatekeepers?

Postby darkbeforedawn » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:28 pm

911 - A Modern Fairy Tale<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>By Douglas Herman<br>9-6-6<br><br><br>Once upon a time in America, the land of opportunity, a group of foreign guys at a Florida strip club said: "Let's get Korans and boxcutters and hijack airplanes and crash them into skyscrapers." <br> <br>And so they did. <br> <br>They bought flight manuals and lapdances, Korans and double martinis. They took flight lessons and bad photos. But most of all they flew badly and partied and flunked flight school. <br> <br>"But how will we deceive NORAD," said one flunky? "And how will we get past airport security," asked another? "And how many millions should we invest in Put Options," said a third? <br> <br>They discovered that NORAD and the Pentagon would be having some military exercises on the exact same day they chose for their mission. Although several top US officials knew in advance not to fly that day, nobody warned any average citizen. <br> <br>Next the G-string jihadists outwitted the FBI. They outfoxed the Bureau's top officials by brilliantly exposing their plans to FBI field agents months in advance. The plotters seemed to know that the FBI head honchos would never believe their most patriotic field agents. Instead they would harass these agents long after the plot unfolded. <br> <br>Next the 19 outlined their plan. "We'll get past Israeli security at Logan airport in Boston by posing as Arab terrorists. We won't even check in or show proper credentials. We'll just go right on through, like ghosts." <br> <br>And so they did. <br> <br>But one BIG problem vexed them greatly. How exactly would steel skyscrapers, seven of them, fall down once two aluminum airplanes hit them? So they went bowling and decided that the two airplanes would be like the bowling ball and the WTC buildings would be like the pins. <br> <br>Still they wondered: How to make these massive towers, built with an enormous inner core to withstand 180 mph hurricanes, engineered to survive the impact of a jumbo jet, actually fall down? <br> <br>So the 19 flight school dropouts put their minds together and thought and thought. The Newtonian laws of gravity and physics, and the long history of burning steel skyscrapers (None had ever fallen down before--or since) seemed to be against them. <br> <br>"What if we make the Twin Towers pancake down," said one flunky, with a face full of buttermilk hotcake? The plotters were all eating a pre-dawn breakfast special with their bleary-eyed lapdancers. A group of Iraqi undercover agents, Saddam's finest, had joined them, savoring a short stack of blueberry pancakes. And so the laws of physics and logic waffled that day. <br> <br>"We can also knock down the CIA headquarters in New York City, demolish the mayor's command post, and wreck the SEC records building while we're at it, crushing the entire building while smacking the structure with a few objects the size of an I-beam" said one bright plotter, remembering his Put Options. <br> <br>And so they did. <br> <br>The mighty Pentagon was next to fall. A fortress guarded by many layers of security, the trillion dollar war toy shopping mall seemed impregnable. But not to the 19 G-string jihadists. <br> <br>They had discovered, by trial and error, that it was mush easier to fly a hijacked jumbo jet with screaming passengers than to control a small Cessna with a calm instructor beside them. The flew those jumbo jets like Blue Angels--except better--pulling ten G's before leveling off and smacking the Pentagon exactly where it had been recently remodeled. <br> <br>But unfortunately for the G-string jihadists, the Pentagon bigwigs knew months in advance. The Pentagonals even published a report with a hijacked plane exactly in the center. They knew no hijacker could ever score a bull's eye---and they were right. <br> <br>The flight school dropouts only hit the edge. <br> <br>But by outflanking, outfighting, and outthinking the combined resources of the Pentagon, CIA, NSA and FBI,, the flight school dropouts had succeeded. Sure, they never received their certification in small planes but they had outfoxed NORAD, Israeli security and the combined resources of the US Air Force in the airspace over America. <br> <br>And even more amazing: the 19 stripclub afficiandos had engineered their own deaths to look like deaths. Nearly half of them were still alive the next day. <br> <br>Call it a modern mission impossible. 19 flight school dropouts who couldn't control a Cessna had destroyed seven heavily-insured steel skyscrapers and the recently remodeled wing of the Pentagon, while outwitting airport security, smashing CIA and SEC headquarteras in a 47-story New York skyscraper they hadn't even hit, while devising a brand new scientific "pancake" theory. All while remaining alive and forcing the entire US population to live in terror, utterly taxed for the unforeseeable future, to pay for the trillions in new war toys and security measures, in a fruitless manhunt to find the alleged mastermind. <br> <br>In conclusion, the 19 boxcutter boyz were either the Ultimate Fighting Champions, or the the above account remains a modern fairy tale, fabricated by the very same people who placed those Put Options and demolition charges and continue to profit today. <br> <br>USAF veteran and amateur historian, Douglas Herman is the contorversial author of The Guns of Dallas. He recieves mail at douglasherman7@yahoo.com<br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Maybe we could get this fairy tale past the gatekeepers?

Postby LilyPatToo » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:27 pm

darkbeforedawn, do you have a link for that wonderful article above? I Googled and couldn't find it, for some reason. I'd love to post about it elsewhere.<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Maybe we could get this fairy tale past the gatekeepers?

Postby darkbeforedawn » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:42 pm

Sorry, someone sent it to me on e-mail with no link. <p></p><i></i>
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