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Robert Bowman is running for congress on 9-11 truth. Hotdog!

Postby darkbeforedawn » Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:14 am

: Assignment Desk, Daybook Editor <br><br>Contact: Lynn Pentz, 310-927-5966, Lynnwethepeople@aol.com <br><br>News Advisory: <br><br>WHAT: 9/11 Kean Commission Report Exposed as 'Fraud of Historic Proportions' on 9/11 Fifth Anniversary by Former 'Star Wars' Program Director and Top 9/11 Authors and Researchers at National Press Club Press Conference Just Before Kean-Hamilton Luncheon Address, Edward R. Murrow Room, 9:30 a.m. <br><br>WHEN: Sept. 11, 9:30 to 11 a.m. <br><br>WHERE: National Press Club, Edward R. Murrow Room <br><br>SPONSORS: McClendon Group, 9/11 Truth Los Angeles and 9/11 Truth Monterey Ca. <br><br>On the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, three hours before the Kean-Hamilton luncheon address at the National Press Club, the former Air Force officer and director of the 'Star Wars' program who just won Florida's 15th District Democratic primary with 54 percent of the vote on an explicit platform to expose the fraud of the Kean Commission Report, and top 9/11 researchers, authors and activists will present hard proof that the official narrative of the Kean-Hamilton Commission and Bush- Cheney Administration is a fraud of world historic proportions. <br><br>Proposed legislation for a new and genuinely independent expert investigation, the first reality-based 9/11 feature film, and the International Grand Jury on the Crimes of 9/11 will be announced. <br><br>Speakers will make brief presentations and take questions from the press: <br><br>-- Dr. Robert Bowman, Lt. Col. USAF (Ret.), one of the nation's foremost authorities on national security, directed all 'Star Wars' programs under Presidents Ford and Carter, flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam, has a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech, and has chaired eight international conferences. Dr. Bowman is the recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, and the Air Medal with five oak leaf clusters, among many others. <br><br>-- Jim Marrs, award-winning Texas journalist and author of the 9/11 expose Inside Job and just-released The Terror Conspiracy, which includes "The Pentagon Attack Papers", is a former U.S. Army Intelligence officer. The author of the New York Times Best Seller Crossfire, which was a basis for Oliver Stone's "JFK" on which he served as a chief consultant, Marrs is working on a movie script whose final scene will awaken audiences to the realization that the 9/11 attacks were a mass assassination. <br><br>-- Barbara Honegger, former White House policy analyst to President Reagan and senior military affairs journalist is the author of The Pentagon Attack Papers that has transformed the understanding of what happened inside the Pentagon on 9/11. Honegger's seminal contributions on the central importance of hijack-scenario and plane-into-tower counterterrorism exercises and wargames being run by the military and intelligence communities on the morning of 9/11 explain core 'mysteries' the Kean-Hamilton Commission has acknowledged it hadn't solved: How the attack date was chosen, and why Mohammed Atta traveled to Portland, Maine. <br><br>-- Lynn Pentz, producer/creative director, breakthrough consultant, and grass-roots organizer, has been centrally involved in some of the largest transformation entertainment events of recent times, including Live Aid, Hands Across America, and the Bicentennial Celebration of the U.S. Constitution. Ms. Pentz is co-founder of 9/11 Truth Los Angeles, director of the film documentary "Connecting the Dots: Awakening to the Crimes of 9/11", and convener of the Citizens Grand Jury on 9/11. A national speaker in the 9/11 Truth movement, Ms. Pentz will announce the upcoming International People's Grand Jury on the Crimes of 9/11: The Case to Indict." <br><br>-- David von Kleist, radio talk show host and producer of the 9/11 film documentary "9/11: In Plane Site", will reveal photographic and video evidence, and the results of interviews with Col. George Nelson, USAF (Ret.), a 30-year aircraft part identification expert, Maj. Gen. Albert Stubblebine, for 30 years in charge of Dept. of Defense photo analysis, and numerous commercial pilots, all of whom, after reviewing the evidence, agree that something other than commercial aircraft struck targets on 9/11. <br><br>--- <br><br>Press requested to advance confirm due to limited room size. <br><br>Coffee provided. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.usnewswire.com/">www.usnewswire.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Robert Bowman is running for congress on 9-11 truth. Hot

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:46 am

Yop! This is great news. I admire and trust Bowman. I have his 1985 book exposing SDI as a destabilizing aggressor's cash boondoggle called 'Star Wars: Defense or Death Star?' <br><br>Can you imagine 9/11-truthers unseating the Lieberman's of the House and Senate this year?<br><br>I'm going to savor that just for a while...<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>the former Air Force officer and director of the 'Star Wars' program <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>who just won Florida's 15th District Democratic primary with 54 percent of the vote on an explicit platform to expose the fraud of the Kean Commission Report</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Robert Bowman is running for congress on 9-11 truth. Hot

Postby FourthBase » Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:43 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Marrs is working on a movie script whose final scene will awaken audiences to the realization that the 9/11 attacks were a mass assassination<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.readybb.net/conservative/images/smiles/41.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>-- Barbara Honegger, former White House policy analyst to President Reagan and senior military affairs journalist is the author of The Pentagon Attack Papers that has transformed the understanding of what happened inside the Pentagon on 9/11. Honegger's seminal contributions on the central importance of hijack-scenario and plane-into-tower counterterrorism exercises and wargames being run by the military and intelligence communities on the morning of 9/11 explain core 'mysteries' the Kean-Hamilton Commission has acknowledged it hadn't solved: How the attack date was chosen, and why Mohammed Atta traveled to Portland, Maine.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>Whoa, now <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>that's</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> the stuff.<br>Have we had a thread on her?<br>I want more!<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>-- David von Kleist, radio talk show host and producer of the 9/11 film documentary "9/11: In Plane Site", will reveal photographic and video evidence, and the results of interviews with Col. George Nelson, USAF (Ret.), a 30-year aircraft part identification expert, Maj. Gen. Albert Stubblebine, for 30 years in charge of Dept. of Defense photo analysis, and numerous commercial pilots, all of whom, after reviewing the evidence, agree that something other than commercial aircraft struck targets on 9/11.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>NOOOOOOOOOOOO!<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/images/smiles/doh.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The men who stare at photos

Postby Qutb » Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:11 am

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Maj. Gen. Albert Stubblebine</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, for 30 years in charge of Dept. of Defense photo analysis, and numerous commercial pilots, all of whom, after reviewing the evidence, agree that something other than commercial aircraft struck targets on 9/11."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The men who stare at photos

Postby FourthBase » Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:03 am

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Re: The men who stare at photos

Postby Gouda » Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:43 am

Sorry, but that group looks like the Military-Industrial-Intelligence Complex's Rockette troupe from Marrs. No wonder they are angry the Pentagon was subverted and hit. <br><br>Maybe they are reformed or recovering M-I-I junkies, I do not know, and so maybe I should not be initially concerned that of this small group you've got no less than 2 <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>former</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> military intelligence agents (one of whom is linked to SRI, remote viewing, staring at goats etc - the other claims to know the alien agenda and pushes guys like Icke and Sitchen in his conspiracy overviews), one highly decorated authority on "national security" proudly sporting Eisenhower and George Kennan medals, and a(nother) former Reagan official, one who wrote on military affairs and gave the guy policy analysis. Remember Reagan's policies? Never mind, you also have a soft "breakthrough consultant" who was involved in feel-good Live Aid and the feel-good Constitution's bicentennial celebrations. And Dave von Kleist. Of all the "truthers" out there, that is a pretty uniform bunch. I see star wars and nephalim and remote viewing of mars here from a solid patriotic security foundation. <br><br>Yes, everybody's gotta learn sometime and all that, and people can leave their former positions and see the light. However, I do not trust "leaders" who campaign on a single issue and address ZERO of the problems of the wider system, the historical record of their various agencies, or 911 within a context of this abusive system. (HMW: does Bowman's Star Wars book get into or show any understanding of the political or social issues as to why star wars is abhorrent?) Is this just jingoistic short-sightedness and narrow perspective, or a deliberate mis-leading? Again, it seems like: let's just get rid of Bush and get this country back on the track it was before it was hijacked. <br><br>*Cue star-spangled banner*<br><br>....zzzzzrrrrrpp! OK, maybe not Stubblebine's track: <br><br>*cue Aphex Twin's star-spangled banner*<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Stubblebine</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.psitech.net/lecture.htm">www.psitech.net/lecture.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>His coterie and milieu</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/people1.html">www.mindcontrolforums.com...ople1.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The men who stare at photos

Postby Gouda » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:05 am

I should admit I have a perverse speculation: what if, what if, They (the M-I-I) have put all these clowns on the pod and no-planes theories so as to discredit them, when in fact there actually were pods and were no planes?! Go the opposite of Occam's Razor (Occam's marshmellow?) and implement 911 in the most far-out way, then deliberately concoct sensational pod websites so that it can be easily debunked even by conspiranoiacs. Double triple fake-out wizardry. See, Pods are already well off the "credible" 911 conspiracy radar. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The men who stare at photos

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:18 am

"The men who stare at photos" <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Gouda, that reminded me of Wallace Shawn's bit in <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Princess Bride</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, trying to outwit the poison-in-the-cup challenge!<br><br>Being a disinfo agent must be about the easiest job in the world. 9/10ths of their job is done for them. They must spend most of their time splitting their sides.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The men who stare at photos

Postby Iroquois » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:50 am

Barbara Honegger is the author of "October Surprise". Was that book a good thing or limited hangout? I'll let the experts decide.<br><br>Here's what she had to say on the 9/11 war games in December of 2002. Maybe her position has changed. But, this is a good example of what I would expect to happen to an investigation of the anti-terror exercises on 9/11 if it got too close to the truth of what happened that morning.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><br>Barbara Honegger<br>U.S. Gov. Not Hijackers, 'Chose' the Date of the 9-11 Att<br>Fri Dec 13 18:30:17 2002<br>208.152.73.54<br></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.gooff.com/news/read.asp?ID=1658"">www.gooff.com/news/read.a...1658"</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>The U.S. Government, Not the Hijackers, 'Chose' the Date of the 9-11 Attacks<br><br>Barbara Honegger of BabelMagazine.com<br><br>by Barbara Honegger<br><br>From the start, the Bush Administration has insisted that anything like the 'planes-as-weapons' scenario of 9-11 was 'unthinkable' before 9-11. That's a Huge Lie. On Sept. 11, 2001 they had a brand new counter-terror emergency response plan in place at the Pentagon for exactly that scenario, and had a counter-terror 'war-game' set to begin on exactly that scenario that very morning in the nation's capitol.<br><br>This brief sets forth the growing reasons to believe that the date for the attack was not 'chosen' by the hijackers at all, but that one of them learned that a counter-terror war-game/exercise simulating a scenario like the one that actually took place on 9-11 was planned for that morning, and then 'piggybacked' the "real thing" on top of it. Here are some of the critical 'burning data points':<br><br>1) Military aircraft had more than enough time - nearly three quarters of an hour -- to respond to and intercept the 9-11 Pentagon plane after all key decision makers were 100% certain the Twin Tower hits had been terrorist attacks and that Flight 77 had also been hijacked, but didn't do so 'in time'. This is beyond comprehension over the nation's capital unless some previous piece of information or mental set led them to assume the Pentagon plane could not be a terrorist vehicle, or at least confuse them as to whether it was or not. If those looking on from inside the Pentagon as 9-11 unfolded believed flight 77 was, or might be, part of a "Red Team" counter- terror exercise set for that very morning, it would explain the otherwise incomprehensible delay, almost to the point of paralysis, in effectively scrambling interceptors.<br><br>2) For the above to be the case, an actual counter-terrorist simulation/war-game/exercise had to have been planned for that very morning, 9-11. More specifically, it would have had to have been a counter-terrorist war-game involving the same or a very similar scenario as what actually began to take place - i.e. a plane or planes crashing into a building or buildings in the Washington, D.C. area.<br><br>3) The above, in fact, did happen. On Aug. 22, 2002 Associated Press ran the following story (version carried in AirDisaster.com): "Top U.S. Intelligence Agency was to simulate plane crash into government building on September 11, 2001. U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft would crash into one of its buildings. Full story at:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.airdisaster.com/news/0802/22/news.shtml">www.airdisaster.com/news/...news.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>4) After reading the above article about NRO's planned 9-11 exercise or a scenario similar to what actually happened that morning, I was certain that the 'revelation' was a 'partial hangout' - i.e. that other federal agencies in the D.C. area, both military and civilian, also had 'war-games' on the plane-into-building scenario scheduled for the morning of 9-11.<br><br>5) A search of the Washington Post and New York Times for the week after 9-11 revealed the following amazing facts which require the context provided by 3) and 4) above to be meaningful:<br><br>The Washington Post reported on 9/16/01 that the original pilot of Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon, former F-4 fighter pilot Charles Burlingame had, in his last Navy job developing anti-terror strategies for the Navy before retiring to fly for American Airlines, drafted the Pentagon's emergency response plan in case it was hit by a civilian airliner. Also, on the morning of 9-11, Pentagon medic Matt Rosenberg was in the health clinic on Corridor 8, "Grateful for an uninterrupted hour in which he could study a new medical emergency disaster plan based on the unlikely scenario of an airplane crashing into the Pentagon." Clearly, the disaster plan Rosenberg was reading just before Burlingame's plane hit the Navy Command Center was part of the very plan Burlingame himself had put together.<br><br>Precisely what the above means in the context of the counter- terror 'war-game' planned for that very morning with the full knowledge of key personnel in the military and CIA (NRO, the one agency which, so far, has acknowledged having a plane-into-building simulation on 9-11 is staffed by military and CIA personnel) is not yet clear, but one thing is certain. It is absolutely and completely beyond coincidence.<br><br>6) With this new context, we can now see why the leak of the exact wording (not the fact of, which had already been reported in the Washington Times two weeks after 9-11) of a Sept. 10, 2001 NSA intercept so worried and infuriated Vice President Cheney that he demanded an FBI investigation of members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committee Joint 9-11 investigation to determine who might have leaked it. That key intercept between the leader of the 9-11 hijackers, Mohammad Atta, and the 'mastermind' of the 9-11 plot, Khalid Sheikh Mohammad, said: "The Match is about to begin. Tomorrow (i.e. 9-11) is zero hour." "Match", of course, is what you would expect if the speaker were referring to his discovery of the date that the U.S. Government had selected to conduct its counter-terror simulation/exercise on the scenario of plane(s) crashing into government buildings - one that was about to turn very real when the terrorists 'piggybacked' their long-planned plot onto it. On 9-10-02, Knight-Ridder reported that U.S. intelligence officials now believe that in that critical "Match" call, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed gave Atta coded approval for the four teams of hijackers to proceed. On the contrary, given the new context in which this all finally begins to make sense, Atta was merely communicating to his boss, or vise versa, the date that the U.S. government exercise was to take place. Bin al Shibh, Atta, and Mohammad didn't 'choose the date'. The U.S. Government did.<br><br>This also explains the choice of date for the attack, which was the date chosen for the 'emergency' preparedness exercise. 9-11 is U.S. abbreviation for 'emergency', and that's precisely the kind of code name the military and intelligence communities like to give their 'exercises.’ Islamic radicals, rather, choose significant anniversary dates for their attacks - such as August 7 for the twin bombings of the U.S. embassies in Africa. To bin Laden and his followers, August 7 is their "Pearl Harbor" anniversary - the day U.S. troops, then under orders from first President Bush's Secretary of Defense Cheney, landed in Saudi Arabia following Saddam Hussein's August 2, 1990 invasion of Kuwait. I've checked ten years of back papers: Sept. 11 is not among the 'anniversary' dates for radical Islamicists. They didn't choose it. (President Bush is also keenly aware of August 7 as the key 'anniversary' date in bin Laden's mind -- that's why he requested the one brief he was given before 9-11 on possible terror attacks on the U.S. mainland, held at his Texas ranch, the day before -- Aug. 6, 2001).<br><br>7) We also know why it was Vice President Cheney who was so upset that the content of the "Match" call was made public. Now, someone might figure out that it was he - having been charged by President Bush on May 8, 2001 (Time magazine) to lead a high-level task force to identify the U.S.'s vulnerabilities to domestic terrorist attack and figure out ways to fix them -- who was 'in charge' of the 'plane(s)- into-building(s)' counter-terror 'exercise' the morning of Sept. 11. That's why he was in the White House Sit Room; and why President Bush kept reading to grammar school kids in Florida long after he should have instantly broken it off to perform his emergency duties as Commander-in-Chief. The reason was that Bush 'knew' - or thought he knew - that it was 'just a game.'<br><br>8 ) Finally, for all of this to 'work', the bad guys had to have at least one person among them who had fooled U.S. intelligence into believing that he was 'one of us.' That person, almost certainly, is Khalid Shaikh Muhammed -- the only person about whom all information is still classified, even his name, even though reams have already been written about him in the open press. He is also the only living 9-11 operative still at large. And for good reason. Vice President Cheney, President Bush, CIA Director Tenet, CIA officer and chief of NRO's strategic gaming division for their 9-11 'plane-into-building' exercise, John Fulton, and all the others who were so stupid as to risk thousands of innocent American lives on the bet that their star 'informant,’ Khalid Sheikh Muhammed had really been 'turned' -- don't want him to talk about what he knows. And he knows a lot. On Sept. 10, 2002, Knight-Ridder quoted a top U.N. counter-terror expert that Mohammad is probably also the only person who has all the pieces to the 9-11 puzzle. Not surprisingly, CIA Director Tenet has also classified all information about what President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Condolezza Rice, and everyone else at the White House were told about Khalid Sheikh Muhammed.<br><br>9) It's time for the Joint House/Senate Intelligence Committee 9-11 investigation, and the future independent 9-11 investigation, to insist on any time, any where, on demand surprise searches of all Bush Administration files on 9-11. This, after all, is the Administration that insisted that anything like the 'planes as weapons' scenario of 9-11 was 'unthinkable' before 9-11. Right. They had a brand new counter-terror emergency plan in place at the Pentagon for exactly that scenario, and had a counter-terror 'war-game' set to begin on exactly that scenario that very morning. Just couldn't imagine. Because putting together counter-terror exercises like the one that was to take place the morning of 9-11 in the nation's capitol was precisely the right thing to do, the fact that everyone in the Administration from the President on down has so completely lied about it shows that they have something terrible, indeed, to hide. In this brief, we've begun to discern its shape.<br><br>P.S. Prof. John Arquilla, an information warfare and Special Operations expert at the Naval Postgraduate School, told The Monterey Herald (7/18/02): "The idea of such an attack (like 9-11) was well known. It had been war-gamed as a possibility in exercises before Sept. 11, 2001<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Source: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/12-14-02/discussion.cgi.28.shtml">www.apfn.net/messageboard...i.28.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=iroquois@rigorousintuition>Iroquois</A> at: 9/9/06 8:53 am<br></i>
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Re: The men who stare at photos

Postby Gouda » Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:51 am

Iroquois, Honegger certainly seems to be the best of that bunch. Maybe others know something more specifically about her on the plus or minus side. Admittedly, I was lumping her in with the others for rhetorical effect without actually addressing her unique contribution to 911 research - which though I am in no expert position to say, appears to be quite valuable (her wargaming stuff also informed that part of Ruppert's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Crossing the Rubicon</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.) <br><br>But: I think that this panel also means to lump them together <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>for effect.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> What is the effect? Personally, I get a nasty national security bizarro state taste in my mouth. Why would she choose to appear with these others if she is interested in "truth?" Dave van Kleist? Marrs? (ok, could be worse: there is 'Texe' after all.) General Stubblebine? Has the pool of credible 911 researchers and associates become so small that she just has to take what she can get? She is smart, and a fine researcher - surely she knows the backgrounds of those she is lumping herself in with. For all I know, EVERYTHING they present as evidence about 911 could be true - and that is good - but I can't help but be suspicious of this group's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>effect</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, if indeed there is one to be had. One agenda I suspect is to prove 911 an inside job of BushCo & neocons or other cabal, while neglecting to indict the supra-Bush system. And then control the fallout in a directed way, directed towards...???? Yours, muddled as ever. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The men who stare at photos

Postby Gouda » Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:12 pm

Another question: how much are these guys tied-in with LaRouche? Star Wars, Reagan, etc. Is Honegger tied in with him in any way? I just came across the following while looking up her book. Is this true? Is "namebase" a good source?<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Honegger, Barbara. October Surprise. New York: Tudor, 1989. 323 pages.<br>California-based Barbara Honegger worked as a researcher at the Hoover Institution, then joined the Reagan team as a researcher and policy analyst in 1980. By 1983 she had become disillusioned and resigned, but her "love" for Reagan kept her from pursuing this story until after he left office. Actually she began leaking the story in mid-1987 after Iran-contra had become a household word; one suspects that it wouldn't have gotten far before then. "October Surprise" refers to the evidence that the Reagan campaign cut a secret (and treasonous) deal with Iran to delay the release of the American hostages, in order to keep President Carter from arranging a surprise release in October and winning the November election.<br><br>This book broke considerable ground on this story, which became much richer in detail over the following years. As this is being written in May 1992, new sources have come forward (Ari Ben-Menashe), other sources have been discredited (Richard Brenneke), and Congress is investigating. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Honegger and her loose circle of supporters </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>(which includes the LaRouche organization)</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> have made a definite contribution, but by now they may be victims -- either of their own success or of deliberate disinformation or both. October Surprise sources comprise a who's who of sleaze and spookery; paranoia and suspicion abound and it becomes difficult to know whom or what to believe. It's a tall order for anyone, especially the U.S. Congress. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.namebase.org/sources/MG.html">www.namebase.org/sources/MG.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The men who stare at photos

Postby Iroquois » Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:19 pm

Gouda, I share your suspicions of everyone in that group, Honegger included. Read her article I posted above carefully. What I get from that is exactly what I would expect any serious investigation along those lines to confront, that a high level agent (in this case Khalid Sheikh Mohammad acting as a double) fed details of the wargames to Atta & Co. so they could plan their attacks to coincide with them. In other words the coincidence of the wargames and the attacks is evidence only of a leak, not a false flag op. It is their incompetence in being played by the Al Qaeda double that Cheney, Tenet, and other top level officials are trying to hide, not evidence of their complicity.<br><br>Or, maybe I'm not reading it right. Or, maybe I am. Talk about muddled. I feel like a took a few wrong turns some time back and have little idea of where I stand now.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The men who stare at photos

Postby NewKid » Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:22 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>what if, what if, They (the M-I-I) have put all these clowns on the pod and no-planes theories so as to discredit them, when in fact there actually were pods and were no planes?! Go the opposite of Occam's Razor (Occam's marshmellow?) and implement 911 in the most far-out way, then deliberately concoct sensational pod websites so that it can be easily debunked even by conspiranoiacs. Double triple fake-out wizardry. See, Pods are already well off the "credible" 911 conspiracy radar. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Gouda's on the right track here. Not saying pods and no planes are true or anything, just that really anything's possible. Now I think all of these people are pretty suspicious and/or flaky, but unfortunately it doesn't tell us much about the truth of what they assert. They could be telling complete bullshit, partial truths, the whole truth, who knows. They all have some sort of agenda, and it's very difficult to try and reverse engineer the truth out of the disinfo guessing game. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=newkid@rigorousintuition>NewKid</A> at: 9/9/06 11:23 am<br></i>
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Re: The men who stare at photos

Postby NewKid » Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:28 pm

Iroquois, that's how I understood the article too. But it's also strange that Honneger is a big "no plane at the pentagon" person. So how does that square with the notion that it really was the 19 and they had a mole? It seems to me it's pretty hard to say it was Atta and Co. if you've got some other object hitting the Pentagon. Maybe she's changed her mind; I don't know. But I'd put her in the caution file for sure. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The men who stare at photos

Postby Iroquois » Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:41 pm

I did not know that about Honneger, NewKid. That is quite a contradition. <p></p><i></i>
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