Sibel Edmonds, the FBI and 911

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Sibel Edmonds, the FBI and 911

Postby isachar » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:07 pm

How the FBI aided and abetted the attacks on the WTC:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwotisitgood4.blogspot.com%2F2006%2F10%2Fsibel-edmonds-corrupt-boss-is-still.html">rawstory.com/showoutartic...still.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Recall, Sibel is only of only two people against whom the Bush admin has obtained a gag order (can't remember the second). What she knows is the key to uncovering the admin's complicity in the 911 attacks on this country.<br><br>Tuesday, October 17, 2006<br>Sibel Edmonds' Corrupt Boss is STILL the key to National Security <br>I've been remiss not to comment on this A1 Washington Post article from last Wednesday:<br><br>FBI Agents Still Lacking Arabic Skills<br>33 of 12,000 Have Some Proficiency<br><br>The key premise of the article is that basically nobody in the FBI can speak Arabic - but it goes on to argue that it is ok because the FBI agents can rely on the FBI translators.<br><br>Bullshit!<br><br>You are all familiar with the troubles that Sibel reported in the FBI translation unit - for starters, her boss at the time, Mike Feghali:<br>1) covered up key information about 911<br>2) covered up key information about other espionage crimes<br>3) was corrupt<br>4) was incompetent<br>5) was having sex with a foreign agent<br>This has all been verifed, and documented, by the FBI (apart from maybe the sex thing - that might not be documented.)<br><br>That sounds pretty bad, right?<br><br>The problem is that he was promoted - and today is in charge of all Arabic speaking translators. That is, Mike Feghali is literally a one-man gatekeeper standing between the entire FBI and the entire Arabic world. When the FBI says that its agents don't need to speak Arabic because the FBI translators can deal with it, they are relying on one man to deliver for them - Mike Feghali.<br><br>Here's the backstory:<br><br>When Sibel joined the FBI immediately after 911, she was the first and only Turkish speaking translator. Her boss was a guy named Mike Feghali - he was in charge of two languages - Turkish and Farsi.<br><br>Feghali was hired as a contract translator (Arabic) in 1997, and was made permanent linguist at some later point - but he was dodgy from the beginning. He kept pumping up his timesheets to $8000-$9000 month (as a comparison, Sibel was earning around $40/hour) and openly bragged about padding his expense report, and whenever he wanted to visit a city, he'd organise a 'meeting' there and take his holiday on FBI dime etc etc.<br><br>Eventually, Feghali applied for a supervisory job, he was rejected, applied again, rejected again.<br><br>The FBI was aware of his various shenanigans and opened an investigation into him - Feghali employed some fancy-name lawyer and claimed racial discrimination. The FBI dropped the charges because they couldn't be bothered fighting the case. Feghali eventually got the promotion - responsible for Turkish and Farsi desks.<br><br>I'm not sure who paid for Feghali's lawyer, but it seems to me as though someone was desperate to get Feghali in place. By any objective measure, Feghali doesn't appear to be a great manager - he didn't even have any Turkish linguists on his Turkish desk before 911 - leading to a backlog of thousands of untranslated documents and phone calls. His first (and only) three Turkish linguist hires were:<br><br>1) Sibel Edmonds - whose application had been lost for 2 years (along with a 100 or so others)<br><br>2) Melek Can Dickerson - an apparent spy/mole who:<br><br>i) was friends with top targets of an FBI investigation,<br>ii) worked for two organisations who were being watched by counterintelligence,<br>iii) worked for the "German-Turkish Business and Cultural Association, known to be a cover for MIT (Turkish intelligence) activities in Germany'<br>iv) was married to a guy who apparently was 'caught receiving a bribe from MIT agents' in Turkey in 1996<br>v) lied on her application form.<br>3) Kevin Taskesen - a restaurant dishwasher who failed literacy tests in both Turkish and English. He was later sent to Guantanomo to 'translate' whatever tortured confessions the torturers interrogators could beat eke out of their victims the terrorists.<br>Beyond that, Feghali actively dissuaded Sibel from doing any work, encouraged her to take long lunches etc, actually erased work from her computer, invited her to do her university homework in the office instead of actual translating, forged her signature on files stating that they'd been translated and that there was nothing nefarious in the documents and transcripts, and other assorted mischievous.<br><br>Feghali also tried desperately to cover up Sibel's whistleblowing and was generally unpleasant, threatening her and calling her a whore and so on.<br><br>You still with me?<br><br>OK - it's been reported that Feghali and Melek Can Dickerson spent a lot of time in his office 'with the door closed' - which I understand to mean that they were having sex (remember that Melek Can is apparently a mole/spy) and she was 'somehow' able to convince Feghali to engage in certain illegal activities. The following is from Sibel's ('Plaintiff's) FTCA lawsuit (pdf):<br><br>Plaintiffs reports included, but were not limited to, the following:<br><br>(a) that a contract FBI monitor, Melek Can Dickerson, who was granted a TOP SECRET security clearance by the FBI, had immediately prior to her FBI position been employed for more than two years by an organization that was a target of an ongoing FBI investigation;<br><br>(b) that Ms. Dickerson had past and ongoing association with at least two or more targets of an ongoing FBI investigation (who subsequently fled the United States);<br><br>(c) that Ms. Dickerson was translating information obtained from FBI wiretaps concerning one or more targets with whom she had past and ongoing improper contacts;<br><br>(d) that Ms. Dickerson was suspected of leaking information to one or more targets of an FBI investigation to which she was assigned to perform translation services;<br><br>(e) that Ms. Dickerson had improperly instructed Plaintiff and another monitor not to listen and translate certain FBI wire-taps because she knew the subjects and was confident that there would be nothing important to translate concerning those subjects or their conversations;<br><br>(f) that Plaintiffs supervisor, Supervisory Language Specialist ("SLS") Mike Feghali, issued instructions that assisted Ms. Dickerson in carrying out misconduct;<br><br>(g) that in December, 2001 and again in January, 2002 Ms. Dickerson threatened to disclose Plaintiffs true identity to the target organization thereby jeopardizing the lives and safety of Plaintiff and her family members, who were citizens of and resided in Turkey, because Plaintiff refused to go along with Ms. Dickerson s scheme to block translations and because Plaintiff reported her concerns about Ms. Dickerson s wrongdoing to FBI management;<br><br>(h) that both as a result of misconduct by Ms. Dickerson and SLS Feghali, and as a result of gross incompetence in the FBI, numerous translations were improperly conducted or not conducted, which threatened intelligence and law enforcement investigations related to the September 11 th attack, and other ongoing counter-terrorist, counter-intelligence and law enforcement investigations;<br><br>(i) that work order documents concerning translations related to the September 11 th investigation were falsified and contained forgeries of Plaintiffs name and/or initials;<br><br>(j) that SLS Feghali issued an instruction forbidding Plaintiff from raising her concerns to the FBI Special Agent assigned to the case, or others, without the permission of SLS Feghali<br><br>(k) that extremely sensitive and material information was deliberately withheld from translations; and<br><br>(I) that FBI management had failed to take corrective action in response to Plaintiff's reports and serious concerns, and instead retaliated against Plaintiff for reporting her concerns.<br>That sounds pretty serious.<br><br>There's also this from Paul Sperry in Feb 2004:<br><br>"When linguist Sibel Dinez Edmonds showed up for her first day of work at the FBI, a week after the 9-11 attacks, she expected to find a somber atmosphere. Instead, she was offered cookies filled with dates from party bowls set out in the room where other Middle Eastern linguists with top-secret security clearance translate terror-related communications.<br><br>She knew the dessert is customarily served in the Middle East at weddings, births and other celebrations, and asked what the happy occasion was. To her shock, she was told the Arab linguists were celebrating the terrorist attacks on America, as if they were some joyous event. Right in front of her supervisor, one translator cheered:<br><br>"It's about time they got a taste of what they've been giving the Middle East."<br><br>She found out later that it was her supervisor's (Feghali's) wife who helped organize the office party there at the bureau's Washington field office, just four blocks from the J. Edgar Hoover Building.<br><br>"This guy's wife brought the date-filled cookies for the celebration," Edmonds, 33, recalled."<br>Got that?<br><br>OK - now back to the WaPo article I mentioned above:<br><br>"FBI officials said it is not crucial for agents... to know Arabic or other foreign languages, because they rely primarily on documents or interviews already translated by FBI linguists... The number of translators proficient in Arabic has grown from 70 in September 2001 to 269 as of July."<br><br>The Arabic linguists are the frontline, and the FBI now has lots of them!<br><br>There's only one problem? Mike Feghali is now in charge of "Arabic language units of the FBI's counterterrorism and counterintelligence investigations"<br><br>Mike Feghali is the bottleneck between all of the FBI and any Arabic speaking terrorists. Do you feel safer? Do you think that he's become more diligent since he got promoted for being negligent? Do you think that he's become more competent since he got promoted for being incompetent? Do you think that he's become less susceptible to being bribed? Do you feel comfortable knowing that the FBI knows all of this and still promoted him to be the key bottleneck?<br><br>Lest we forget, Feghali was in charge of the Farsi desk (I'm not sure if he is directly to blame for this) when, according to Sibel's open letter to the 911 Commision:<br><br>More than four months prior to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, in April 2001, a long-term FBI informant/asset who had been providing the bureau with information since 1990, provided two FBI agents and a translator with specific information regarding a terrorist attack being planned by Osama bin Laden...<br><br>Four months prior to the terrorist attacks the Iranian asset provided the FBI with specific information regarding the ‘use of airplanes’, ‘major US cities as targets’, and ‘Osama Bin Laden issuing the order. ’<br>We also know that Sibel translated wiretaps in July 01 from some guy who was in prison on drugs charges who was sending 'blueprints, pictures and building material for skyscrapers' to be 'hand-delivered to a remote, remote border location in the Middle-East' and<br><br>"To make matters worse, Sibel also translated other wiretaps from the same jailed Iranian guy - recorded a few days after 911 - in which he and an associate were congratulating each other about the attacks."<br>Our man, Mike Feghali, refused to send this information to the FBI field agents who had requested the translations. In fact, even when the FBI agents sent a repeat request, after 911, to the translation unit urging them to take another look because they strongly suspected that this guy was involved in 911 and that these particular calls were significant (presumably becuase they knew who was on the other end of the phone calls), Feghali simply lied, again, and told the FBI field agents that there was nothing of interest in these intercepted calls.<br><br>Let me repeat. Feghali is the one guy who stands between the Arabic speaking world and the FBI.<br><br>Speaking about pre-911 warnings, on September 10:<br><br>"At least two messages in Arabic are intercepted by the NSA. One states “The match is about to begin” and the other states “Tomorrow is zero hour.”... The messages were sent between someone in Saudi Arabia and someone in Afghanistan. The NSA will claim that they are not translated until September 12... because analysts were “too swamped.”"<br>Remember when Feghali's wife organised the celebratory post-911 office party for the FBI translators with the date-filled cookies in party bowls? As it happens, Mrs Mike Feghali is a translator too. For the NSA.<br><br>On September 12, she translated the “tomorrow is the zero hour” intercept.<br>posted by lukery at 10/17/2006 08:59:00 AM <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Sibel Edmonds, the FBI and 911

Postby Infernal Optimist » Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:03 am

isachar,<br><br>Thanks for posting this. I knew some of this but you added a lot and it's good to see it all in one place.<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Do you think that he's [Feghali] become more competent since he got promoted for being incompetent?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>I'm not so sure that he got promoted for being <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>incompetent.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> These things seem to be protected from too many different directions to put it all down to: Feghali's incompent/compromised/corrupt.<br><br>All I have to say is: What the Feghali? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Sibel Edmonds, the FBI and 911

Postby FourthBase » Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:12 am

Who's the second person Bush has gagged? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Sibel Edmonds, the FBI and 911

Postby postrchild » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:33 am

WHO IS THE SECOND PERSON? Googled high and low and couldnt find it....easily. <br><br>Something else that has kinda been nagging me about these stories that keep popping up.....Alot of the stories I have been reading concerning 911 are written in the mindset of the OFFICIAL VERSION. Being that terrorists of middle eastern descent perpetrated these attrocities. This story is no different. It almost seems like a spin job from the PTB. <br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>To her shock, she was told the Arab linguists were celebrating the terrorist attacks on America, as if they were some joyous event. Right in front of her supervisor, one translator cheered: "It's about time they got a taste of what they've been giving the Middle East."<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Yep....them baaaad ole terrists again....sympathizers <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>everywhere</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.....we try to smoke em out, but theyre crafty lil varmints....<br><br>This was written almost as a "look, see?" "We told you it was damn terrists! Now give us your freedoms."<br><br>I read this with a large amount of speculation....as I do so many stories these days. Does anyone else recognize what I am talking about....or is it just me? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Sibel Edmonds, the FBI and 911

Postby AlanStrangis » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:50 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Something else that has kinda been nagging me about these stories that keep popping up.....Alot of the stories I have been reading concerning 911 are written in the mindset of the OFFICIAL VERSION. Being that terrorists of middle eastern descent perpetrated these attrocities. This story is no different. It almost seems like a spin job from the PTB.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Well, the Justice Department's gagging of Edmunds seems bona fide to me, and has been around for some time. I don't think this in any ways weakens a case for the LIHOP* scenario, to which I personally subscribe.<br><br>I have no doubt that there was a terrorist plot, and that it was aided and abetted by some in power. Whether any of the "official" terrorists knew about this backup is another story.<br><br>The quote about a translator cheering is reminiscent of the "Dancing Israelis" across the river from the WTC, on Sept. 11th.<br><br>*though I'm not a huge fan of LIHOP vs. MIHOP as a debating point, because if the former is true, in a sense, it automagically mutates into MIHOP, because, by definition, they would have been able to MISOP too (Make It Stop On Purpose). <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Sibel Edmonds, the FBI and 911

Postby isachar » Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:31 pm

"These things seem to be protected from too many different directions to put it all down to: Feghali's incompent/compromised/corrupt."<br><br>Inf Opt, precisely.<br><br>As I recall, the second gag order was issued against librarians per a Patriot-act type investigation of a user's records.<br><br>Sibel is the key to uncovering the false flag 911 synthetic terror op.<br><br>That, and the fact that no one has been able to account for how the temps inside the WTC's got hot enough to produce pools of liquid metal/steel in the basements of the two towers.<br><br>Exposed to temperatures 'as hot as the temperatures in the inner earth' Remember that phrase. Jet-fuel and office fires CANNOT ATTAIN such temperatures, no matter how much jet fuel is used. This is the ONLY physical evidence required to expose the 911 attacks as being a phony, false flag terror op.<br><br>The 'meteor' referred to in the MSNBC report below (it's an agglomeration of melted/twisted metal and steel) was recovered from the basement of one of the WTC's. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>It was exposed to temperatures as hot as those 'in the inner earth'</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. <br><br>Now, how did Osama do that? <br><br>That meteor is exhibit A in the criminal and war crimes trials that should be held for the admin's complicity in the mass murder of 2,700 people that day and hundreds (thousands) of rescuers others who have and will die from lung diseaes, another 2,700 military deaths and tens if not hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi's and Afghans.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14789146/">www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14789146/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>9/11: Remains of the day <br>In a hangar at JFK, World Trade Center artifacts are treated as sacred<br>By Brian Williams<br>Anchor & “Nightly News” managing editor <br>NBC News<br><br><br>Updated: 7:25 p.m. ET Sept 11, 2006<br>NEW YORK - <br><br>We have a special look tonight at all of the wreckage that was taken from ground zero. All of it is sacred and it's all awaiting a home — a permanent memorial. For now, it's all being cared for in a hangar at New York's JFK airport.<br><br>They don't want us to show you the outside, but we can say this: if you've flown out of Kennedy, you've taxied by it.<br><br>Inside, it's as if that day is now contained in the room. The violence is over and the heat has cooled, but it’s all here. You can feel it, you can smell it. It's enough to make anyone angry and sad and spiritual all over again.<br><br>It's an airline hangar as church.<br><br>"There's no question this is sacred ground here again as it is down at ground zero," says Charles Gargano of the Port Authority.<br><br>In many ways, the symbols of ground zero have moved here, and that makes Gargano responsible for these sacred contents.<br><br>In the first big room are the once-mighty, once-shiny outer ribs of the building, now broken, burned and rusted and lying on their sides.<br><br>How did they have the presence of mind to mark some of them "SAVE"?<br><br>"Immediately when we could gain access to ground zero, we sent in engineers to look for pieces that we should save," says Gargano.<br><br>In its own temperature-controlled room is the last column removed from ground zero. New Yorkers remember the day it was removed. It had been signed by the rescuers, the cops and firefighters and ironworkers who needed a way to say goodbye.<br><br>"It was treated like a living thing when it was removed from the site," says Alice Greenwald, who is responsible for compiling all of this.<br><br>Curator Jan Ramirez is responsible for preserving what's here. The trains, the turnstiles — everything as it was right before life changed forever.<br><br>We next enter a room containing a form that's difficult to describe. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>In any other museum, it could be passed off as a meteorite. And while this was born of intense heat, this is altogether different. This formation is really four separate stories of the World Trade Center, compressed, compacted, incinerated — exposed to temperatures as hot as the inner earth.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>On it, you can see the typeface from printer paper that was exposed to so much heat it carbonized. In this thing is everything you would find inside any office. Whatever existed at the moment when life stopped.<br><br>Greenwald says in some respects it is New York's tomb of the unknowns.<br><br>Our attention then turns to those who answered the call.<br><br>This room conjures up the great violence of that day and the great sadness afterward — sadness for the men and women who built these once-gleaming machines, sadness for the men and women who were so proud to serve onboard these rigs — in some cases, the men and women who died in them as well.<br><br>"This ambulance apparently was incinerated," Greenwald says as he continues our tour. <br><br>"Apart from the horrifying condition it's in, it speaks historically to the loss of the seniority in the fire department that day." Ramirez says.<br><br>In another room, a cylinder as big as an Apollo spacecraft — the base of the broadcasting tower that stood atop the World Trade Center — now here on its side. Just past the crosses and the Stars of David that the ironworkers carved from the girders is the old wooden observation deck inscribed with the goodbyes of the families that lost loved ones.<br><br>"You take nothing for granted," Greenwald says. "You do nothing superficially. You have to approach every artifact as if it were once a living thing."<br><br>All of the material — a hangar-full of it — still represents less than one percent of the rubble at ground zero.<br><br>Much of what you we saw will be on permanent display, as soon as the memorial museum is built.<br><br>© 2006 MSNBC Interactive<br>URL: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14789146/">www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14789146/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=isachar>isachar</A> at: 10/18/06 1:36 pm<br></i>
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Re: Sibel Edmonds, the FBI and 911

Postby NavnDansk » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:31 pm

Some people think Sibel is working for the PTBs - Xymphora had an article that questioned if Sibel would have known so much having so little time with the FBI and IIRC mentions another anomoly with her connection with the Turkish government.<br><br>I believe Sibel though xymphora brings up a good point. Sibel, in an interview reprinted on her site <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.JustACitizen.com">www.JustACitizen.com</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> states that one of the motives for 911 was price fixing of gold.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Random Quote<br>"Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C., that their air is safe to breathe and their water is safe to drink."<br><br>— Christie Todd Whitman - 9/18/20<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>-Petition to U.S Congress -- Widows Ask for <br><br>Declassification of July 10, 2001 Meeting<br><br>Sign the 911 Widows' petition - Interesting discussion on Digg.com        <br>        <br>Petition:<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://911blogger.com/node/3764">911blogger.com/node/3764</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://digg.com/politics/9_11_Widows_Ask_for_Declassifi.">digg.com/politics/9_11_Wi...eclassifi.</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Sibel Edmonds, the FBI and 911

Postby isachar » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:04 am

Navn, though you say you don't buy it you post:<br><br>"Some people think Sibel is working for the PTBs - Xymphora had an article that questioned if Sibel would have known so much having so little time with the FBI and IIRC mentions another anomoly with her connection with the Turkish government."<br><br>Not to put too fine a point on it, but those allegations are horseshit. She was one of only two capable Turkish and Farsi translator in the FBI at the time so why wouldn't she be the person to see/translate the most critical intercepts? The other capable translator - Melek Can Dickerson - was the mole who had penetrated the FBI.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Very hard to know who is honest

Postby NavnDansk » Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:38 am

For a long time I trusted Spitzer and his "cleaning up Wall Street" reputation and even signed a petition urgently asking him to investigate 911 which he has not done.<br><br>Subsequent information I read spoke of his corruption and since he did not act on investigating 911 which he would have been one of the few capable of doing this legally due to his unique position, similar to Fitzgerald, I guess this information was correct.<br><br>Need to look at both or several sides of a whistleblower, potential ally to removing bushco to decide who to trust. Not sure of some of the former CIA agents who have come out against the Bush Regime like Ray McGovern and Larry Johnson but keep an open mind when I read pro and con information.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Very hard to know who is honest

Postby isachar » Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:06 pm

Spitzer is not not now and never was a whistleblower.<br><br>He's a political appointee/functionary.<br><br>He will never go out on a limb on this. Nor will Fitzgerald for that matter on the issues he's been tasked with investigating.<br><br>Most of these so-called investigations are simply to round it all up, suppress it and give it a veneer of credibility.<br><br>Kinda like the phony 911 Cover-up Commission.<br><br>Yeah, just like that. <p></p><i></i>
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