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Re: Templars of The Crown

Postby sceneshifter » Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:31 am

what is true is that all this documentation may mean that there is a world government, but there is no proof or evidence here that this world power is bad - to make that assumption, you have to assume that all government is bad - which you cannot do, because you support government - it is most likely that there is good and bad in government, because there is good and bad in people - or we can assume that this world government is bad because it is secret<br>what is certain is that fortunes over US$2 million are theft, and their owners thieves - for there is a limit to the hours [200,00<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> a person can work, and to the fairpay per hour [US$15, 2006] that one person can deserve - for all arguments for higher than average pay per hour are false - see globalhappiness.org [not an org] <br>the institution of the crown would be prevented from all overpower, and from corruption of democracy and abuse of the freedom of the people, if the members of the crown, and all other such powers, of which there must be many, were prohibited from having fortunes larger than US$2 million [2006, adjusted annually for global inflation]. limitation of overpay would automatically be limitation of underpay, and limitation of overunderpay would be limitation of violence, which is escalative till extinction or limitation of fortunes <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Templars of The Crown

Postby madeupname452 » Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:58 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>what is true is that all this documentation may mean that there is a world government, but there is no proof or evidence here that this world power is bad - to make that assumption, you have to assume that all government is bad - which you cannot do, because you support government - it is most likely that there is good and bad in government, because there is good and bad in people - or we can assume that this world government is bad because it is secret<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>the crown is merciless and ruthless in defence of its interests.It can indulge its serfs with absolute freedom within strictly defined limits.These limits are not explicitly defined to the subjects of the crown ,and more crucially the motivations,agenda and identity of the crown is a closely guarded and skilfully obfuscated mystery. <br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>the institution of the crown would be prevented from all overpower, and from corruption of democracy and abuse of the freedom of the people, if the members of the crown, and all other such powers, of which there must be many, were prohibited from<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Your proposed solution is laudably idealistic but I do not think it likely that the Controllers of the System would impose such a solution upon themselves,or tolerate anyone else trying.How would one begin to bring about your solution without creating some sort of worldwide totalitarian regime imposing a newer and harsher world order ? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Templars of The Crown

Postby OnoI812 » Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:37 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>How would one begin to bring about your solution without creating some sort of worldwide totalitarian regime imposing a newer and harsher world order ?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>It's the MEEK<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>who will be inheriting the Earth.... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Templars of The Crown

Postby StarmanSkye » Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:06 am

sceneshifter said:<br><br>"what is true is that all this documentation may mean that there is a world government, but there is no proof or evidence here that this world power is bad - to make that assumption, you have to assume that all government is bad - which you cannot do, because you support government - it is most likely that there is good and bad in government, because there is good and bad in people - or we can assume that this world government is bad because it is secret"<br><br>Boy, you're something else.<br><br>Are you REALLY so uninformed you can't grasp that, as set-out in this thread, the Crown is the driving force behind MOST of the world's biggest crimes re: enslavement and autocratic systems, from organized-crime syndicate rackets and thefts via corporatism, manipulative appropriations, exploitation, and economic servitude to international frauds, wars and conflicts, legal scams, consolidation of power and influence, genocides, warcrimes, atrocities, provocations and incitements, third-world debt indentures, coups and low intensity conflicts, and subversion of authentic people-oriented democratic institutions by any means necessary. The Crown hasn't hesitated to employ fascism as provocation, pretext or straight-power use of force. <br><br>That you can actually say "there's no proof or evidence that this here world power is bad" without even suspecting the enormous absurdity of such a claim SERIOUSLY undermines your credibility. This perhaps reveals the severe illogic and perceptual flaws that confound your thesis -- how can you POSSIBLY say you KNOW your economic-adjustment plan is THE foolproof solution to the world's problems when you don't even have a modest understanding of how the world really works behind the scenes, or who the world's biggest wealth-and-power-actors are, what their interests are and how they have rigged the game to allow their 3 percent to control some 65 percent of the world's assets. How do you suppose they can be 'prohibited' from doing ANYTHING? Most of the developed world's dull-witted sheeple don't even suspect there IS such a thing as the Crown, or that less than a dozen people have so much power they can precipitate a world war. Society's laws and rules, political parties and militaries and social institutions have been set-up and publics conditioned to accept, protect and defend the system of 'order' which provides the PTB and the status quo with the legal-fiction legitimacy of their priveleges as major equity stake-holders.<br><br>These gaps in your understanding that prevent you from making cause-and-effect connections are a big reason why your plan isn't convincing or compelling -- Your tendency for oversimplification and jumping to unwarranted conclusions are like blind spots that indicate a less-than-thorough grasp of your subject matter. For instance -- Your plan presupposes that the Federal Reserve fiat-dollar is an inherantly sound, equitable and fair currency that there's no reason to change <br>-- instead of what it really is, a ponzi-scheme: one of the biggest racketeering-scams going. Before you invest anything or everything in a massive equity-restructuring venture, wouldn't it make sense to eliminate the structural biases of the Federal Reserve debt-instrument -- which is a private bank franchise based on the usurious-leveraging of permanant escalating debt? And yet, it seems you haven't even LOOKED at this critical feature, the difference between money and wealth. Besides -- What makes you think more laws and rules will limit greed and obscene wealth, when our PRESENT laws protecting human rights and social justice are disregarded by the PTB at-will?<br><br>If you were truly serious about promoting economic justice, I'd think you'd want to be way more knowledgeable about movements and ideas, philosophies and ideologies that had similiar goals -- such as Cuban/Venezuelan style redistributive-wealth socialism aka the Bolivarian Revolution.<br><br>Starman <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The Crown

Postby Dreams End » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:20 pm

I must admit to being rather surprised to seeing Starman put up an article like the one above. The article itself is mostly unsourced and the logic is...questionable. Helpfully, but for reasons I can't fathom, the article itself links to a page completely debunking one of its main theses, that allegiance to the "bar" is somehow related to swearing fealty to England. Here's the link as provided at the bottom of the page linked by Starman.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://home.hiwaay.net/%7Ebecraft/BAR.html">home.hiwaay.net/%7Ebecraft/BAR.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>It says basically that this whole "bar" business is a load of manure.<br><br>Here's the actual etymology of the term "bar"<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>These "barristers", so called because they were "called" to the Bar separating the public from those admitted to the well of the Court, (and equally separating the students from the barristers within their Inn of Court)<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The Bar association in the U.S., of course, has no legal standing and is simply a professional association of lawyers. <br><br>But the further thesis that people unknowingly swearing allegiance to something would, despite their ignorance, have any sort of effect, is rather silly.<br><br>It's like "proving" that an atheist is actually a Christian because he says "goodbye" on occasion...goodbye having come from the phrase "god be with you." <br><br>Unsupported claims about the Knights Templar are equally pointless to believe. While I'm fascinated by the little bit of that history I know...I don't assume that the KT are still in charge of this or that merely because someone on the net says so. <br><br>At least Plantard, the fellow who led the authors of "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" (who should, in my view, prevail in their plagiarism suit against Dan Brown) on their merry treasure hunt, had the decency to plant some fake documents. the above article doesn't even bother with any sort of evidence at all.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://priory-of-sion.com/">priory-of-sion.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Now, a more interesting question arises. The original HBHG hypothesis has been rather thoroughly discredited. And yet, it has formed the basis of a hugely selling book of fiction, pretending to be based on fact. It is also the basis for the movie based on the same book, with megastar Tom Hanks.<br><br>So the question is, why? Why is this being promoted so heavily...and why now? Plantard himself was quite rightwing, warning of Jewish and Masonic plots, siding with Franco, etc. <br><br>Pickett and Prince evidently want to say that he was just a front guy for the REAL Priory de Sion. If that gets debunked, I assume they'll argue that the front group was just a front group, ad infinitum<br><br>I don't want to say that Plantard is discredited, therefore all such claims are discredited...but the above articles provide NO sources whatsoever, and much of this "secret" Knights Templar sort of history comes directly from the HBHG hoax. Combine that with the rather overt rightwing agenda of Plantard and the heavy promotion of these ideas in the current mass media (some secret, eh?) and it gets me wondering.<br><br>One dynamic surely in play is the use of such manufactured conspiracies to explain away social developments which are undesirable by those manufacturing these theories. The French and American revolutions, for example, were condemned by wealthy elites as being Masonically inspired, just as the civil rights movement in the US would be allegedly "communist" inspired.<br><br>Misdirection, then. Everyone would be fine if it weren't for those outside agitators...though surely no one who bought the HBHG line REALLY wanted Plantard to be declared Emperor of Europe or whatever.<br><br>I have to think there's more going on than this. I just see decades, if not centuries of these whisper campaigns against shadow enemies which, for all I can tell, are started by the real enemies themselves...the elites, or at least far right factions of the same. <br><br>It happens in this genre, but also in the UFO/occult world as well. Whispers of a centuries old plot, the culmination of which is always JUST around the corner...although it never seems to actually arrive. The UFO's will land, the Grail will be revealed, Maitreya will emerge...<br><br>and the political and cultural milieu behind these rumors are always quite similar. <br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: bar

Postby havanagilla » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:29 pm

don't know about all the rest of it, but the Bar association in the USA has a legal status (namely, the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>state</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> bars). The bar admits lawyers without which they cannot appear before the court. there are other functions sanctioned by the law, but this is the main one. <br>Basically the system of training and admitting lawyers is an offshoot of the Brittish common law, although the separation between solicitors and barristers does not exist in the USA anymore. So, everyone admitted to the Bar, can appear before courts, although one is required to receive a separate admission to appear before the federal courts. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The Crown

Postby Dreams End » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:39 pm

<br><br>The state bar associations are not part of the ABA...they are administrative agencies for their state judiciaries. As Hava knows, to be admitted to a particular state bar does not entitle you to practice in another state without some red tape of some kind. <br><br>But I believe the articles in question were referring to the American Bar association, which is a different organization altogether.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Welcome to the American Bar Association, the largest voluntary professional association in the world. With more than 400,000 members, the ABA provides law school accreditation, continuing legal education, information about the law, programs to assist lawyers and judges in their work, and initiatives to improve the legal system for the public.<br>ABA Mission<br><br>The Mission of the American Bar Association is to be the national representative of the legal profession, serving the public and the profession by promoting justice, professional excellence and respect for the law. <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.abanet.org/about/home.html">www.abanet.org/about/home.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I'll post again the link to the debunking site, helpfully provided by the original article posted by Starmanskye:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://home.hiwaay.net/%7Ebecraft/BAR.html">home.hiwaay.net/%7Ebecraft/BAR.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I think the word "demolish" comes to mind when I read this page's treatment of these "bar" theories. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: bar

Postby havanagilla » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:47 pm

havent read all the article up here or the link was just relating to "the bar". yes, ABA is voluntary. but state bars are part of the judiciary, therefore, are sanctioned by law. I am sure the rest of the stuff is not worth reading I trust your judgement. <p></p><i></i>
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'Sion Revelation'

Postby Quentin Quire » Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:45 pm

DE --<br><br>With regards to your qustions on HBHG and the Priory Of Sion Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince published a book called 'The Sion Revelation' a few months back (in the UK at least).<br><br>It's well written and researched and destroys and discredits the conventional mythology of Rennes le Chateau, the Priory and Plantard and co.<br><br>There hypothesis is essentially that the Priory was a hoax, designed not primarily to disseminate the 'bloodline' theory but to further the ideals of 'synarchy' a ideology involving elitist rule through the infiltration of all levels of society and politics, both left and right wing. Part of this is their plan for a united Europe.<br><br>The authors link the genesis of the hoax to people associated with Plantard ety al who all seem to be involved in fascist and quasi-fascist organisations, underground occult groups and semi-masonic societies. <br><br>There's some info on Amazon --<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0316727725/qid=1142793805/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_2_1/203-0663364-7613502">www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obi...64-7613502</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>(I'd ignore the sole reader review, he seems to have missed the point entirely.) <p></p><i></i>
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Re: bar

Postby Dreams End » Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:11 pm

Thanks, QQ..<br><br>Do they reach any conclusions as to the purpose? Is it the goal of the perpetrators to create the "united Europe" or to discredit the idea of a "united Europe"? Are the bad guys putting out these ideas hoping they will be met with approval or to make people think that OTHER people are up to no good? <br><br>Er....I don't think I asked that well, but maybe you know what I mean.<br><br>Compare your view of the book with this, negative view and see what you think. Did this reviewer (from a PdS debunking site) miss the point? I actually liked Stargate Conspiracy (with some caveats...and maybe some caviar on the side) so I'm pretty curious. Is it their contention that ANY of it is real...or that it's ALL a hoax. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://priory-of-sion.com/posd/sionrevelation.html">priory-of-sion.com/posd/s...ation.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dreamsend@rigorousintuition>Dreams End</A> at: 3/19/06 2:14 pm<br></i>
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Sion revelation ...

Postby Quentin Quire » Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:37 pm

Thanks DE.<br><br>It would seem that the reviewer Paul Smith knows far more about the intricacies of the matter than I, but seems to take umbrage at a handful of points when the book runs to more than 500 pages. I can smell 'rival researcher syndrome'. <br><br>To my mind the book brought forward an interesting and well researched opposing hypothesis to the prevalent view that HBHG and the basis of the Da Vinci Code are factual in many ways.<br><br>Their conclusion is not strong - which I think works in their favour. They haven't tried to link this all up into a grand plan by the conspirators. <br><br>I quote --<br><br>'The Priory ... is a hoax, but in the same way that intelligence deceptions are hoaxes. What really matters are the groups that stand behind it, the network of societies that include the Rectified Scottish Rite and Papus' Martinist Order, with their secret interior orders. And behind all this stands synarchy, at whose core is the drive to forge the United Europe.'<br><br>But they provide the caveat that the Priory did not create or is behind the EU, but it's history and the whole Priory affair seems to be a complex and convoluted plan designed to place their ideologies into the mainstream. Add to this the links with para-politics, racist, collaborationists and terrorists groups and we have a very nasty stench ...<br><br>From their conclusion -- 'Our journey through the murky world of occult brotherhoods, religious intrigue and even spirit contact leads inexorably to the dark world of modern politics.' This is essentially the core of the book.<br><br>It is well worth reading, with an open mind and your 'rigorous intuition' turned on. I suspect if Jeff picks it up he will be able to provide a capsule review which is greater than mine.<br><br>As an aside, I work in a mainstream chain bookstore in the UK and the amount of copies of The Da Vinci Code and Holy Blood Holy Grail we sell is astounding. We have an entire 6 shelves dedicated to this sort of stuff and they sell shitloads. 'The Sion Revelation' is the only one I've read that I could feasibly recommend as having a great amount of truth in it. Vast amounts of customers believe that the content of HBHG and DVC contain factual information and are often shocked when I relate what I know to them.<br><br>Off-topic - but the only other para-politics titles we stock (as do other bookstores) are those by David Icke.<br><br>Looks like the ongoing disinformation plan seems to be working, right? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: bar

Postby Dreams End » Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:48 pm

it sounds worth reading even if their ultimate thesis turns out to be wrong.<br><br>I'm curious about this Scottish Rite/Catholic church thing. Aren't they rivals? I've even seen speculation on Namebase that Larouche may be working for the Catholic church (his only real evidence is that he goes so hard on the masons, but that's actually my point-not proving who LL's paymaster is.)<br><br>I worry very much about the "synarchy" angle...another Larouche specialty...though surely he did not invent the term. If I had some $$$ I'd go get the book...and as I often spend an hour or so at a local bookstore during a break I have on Thursdays, I'll definitely scan it. <br><br>The actual history of the PdeS as I've seen lacks in glory and intrigue...so much so that I've yet to see how it blew up into this huge hoax. Why did Plantard go from a sort of property rights advocate into self-appointed messiah of Europe? Maybe some DID push him....<br><br>All very odd.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Sion etc ...

Postby Quentin Quire » Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:02 pm

'Papus' is the pen-name of Gerard Encausse who created The Martinist order in Paris whose circle included Emma Calve and other involved in the occult and esoteric - rather than anything 'papal' and concerned with the Catholic Church.<br><br>It's a big book DE and hard to encapsulate into a series of posts. However I was taken with the concept of 'synarchy' as an idea, it seems to fit with the way I see many para-political groups operating - by infiltration. Can't say I'm too familiar with Larouche except to be predisposed to question pretty much everything he says. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: bar

Postby Dreams End » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:00 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>'Papus' is the pen-name of Gerard Encausse who created The Martinist order in Paris whose circle included Emma Calve and other involved in the occult and esoteric - rather than anything 'papal' and concerned with the Catholic Church.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Yeah, I knew that...just seeing if you were paying attention.<br><br>Ahem...yeah. That's it. <p></p><i></i>
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reply to starroute, starman or whatever

Postby sceneshifter » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:11 pm

<br>of course i believe that the superpowerful are generally bad - obviously they are, generally speaking, going to pursue their interests as they see them and mis-see them, in disregard of effect on others, in disregard of the iron law of action and reaction, you cant hurt others without getting equally hurt - i just said that there is no evidence HERE [ie, in this thread, which goes on and on about the EXISTENCE of the crown] that the crown are bad - there is no EVIDENCE here - i didnt say i believed the crown were good or harmless - i said only that there is no EVIDENCE, HERE - you misquote me - i said that there is no proof or evidence here that that this world power is bad - i didnt say 'there's no evidence that this here world power is bad' - you seem to feel that it is enough to prove the existence of this organisation in order to prove its evil - if that were sufficient, it would be sufficent to prove the existence of anything to prove its evil - your evidence is all for the existence of this power, not very much for its evil - look how irrational you have been! - no wonder i cant get through to anyone - im being so misread!<br><br>'a modest understanding of how the world really works behind the scenes' - it is obvious - commonsense - that, given free permission by an insane people to accumulate fortunes far beyond what a person has earned, that people so permitted are going to use the power of such wealth to do whatever the hell they like, which seems to be getting their hands on more money and power, so they can get their hands on more money and power - cicero or someone said that money is like salt water, that increases the thirst the more you have - it is only because people are mad that they dont grasp that moneymonomaniacs are certifiably insane, and gently move them to an asylum for the criminally insane - <br><br>how do i suppose they can be prohibited from doing anything? - i suppose the 99% underpaid would like to be paid all the money they earn, that no one wants to become extinct, that people can see that all of the violence we all suffer from, which embraces us all, is generated by the legal theft, i suppose that even some of the 1% overpaid can see that extinction is not nice, that violence is too high a price to pay for a few extra bob that can only breed trouble and satisfy a few very marginal desires - the ones who cant see the enormous benefits to everyone can be gently put in asylums - the incurably insane - you have not been able to tell me where it is true that anyone suffers from justice, from limitation of fortunes - no one has been able to take up my challenge to put forward one advantage to anyone of overpay/underpay/violence/extinction - if i am wrong, kindly gently point it out [so that my pride and ego arent hurt more than necessary] - if i am right, rejoice, there is a way out of the misery and ugliness<br><br>why do i need to know the present names of the biggest wealth-power actors? - we have allowed them, so they exist - what value is the name of the present ones? - the plan doesnt intend to approach them and ask for permission to limit fortunes - the plan would like to delay the ptb finding out about the plan and trying to disturb people's understanding of it - i dont want to know the evil ones and i dont need to - it is obvious that in a very unequal society the number of people at the top with the most power is going to be small, ultimately one person - there is always a tallest tree and there is always a richest and most powerful - the gaps in understanding seem to be on your side - sorry - its true - <br><br>oversimplification - it si easy to level the chrarge of ovesimplification, since every sentence cannot be qualified a million ways for every detail - you have to wait for other sentences do that - and i dont go on to the limit of the details - you should understand that - i go so far and then stop - it is for the reader to guess that all is not said, every point is not covered in a certain space - of course the federal reserve is a moneypumping machine for the superrich who for some reason want to be richer - you give someone open slather at the lever, they are going to pump it into their pocket - it is incredible that the people have not got enough savvy or sense to stop them sucking at the mother of all tits - obviously the fed can up and down the money supply and buy and sell so that they endlessly pump money to themselves - to buy people to make wars, to kill more people, and steal more money - brigands do steal, you know - it's their nature - they are addicted to it - its an addiction - it is hard for ordinary people to imagine such folly, because ordinary people dont have that folly, but there it is - of course you dont grasp that limiting fortunes will take all power to suck any tits in society - any and all such thieving schemes, past present and future, are nipped in the bud by limitation of fortunes - no one can get more than US$2 million more than they earn under limitation of fortunes - the golden carrot is poof! gone forever - why cant people get this? - you can stop all egregious nefariousness by limiting fortunes - the hot air is out of every bad boy's balloon, forever - <br><br>what makes me think that more laws will limit obscene wealth when our present laws are disregarded by the ptb at will? - boy, you havent read me, have you - i mean, read me - absorbed me - the level of comprehension of my posts is vanishingly small if you can ask that question - i am about to give up - the dumbing down has progressed far beyond what i thought - the law against murder has a tendency to reduce murder - a law against overfortune will have a tendency to reduce overfortunes - a little more than there is now with no law against it - the ptb ignore the laws because they have enough money to buy anyone they want, because they are bigger than the government [a us govt committee reported so in the 1950s] - limitation of fortunes keeps individuals smaller than the governments - and limitation of fortunes keeps the govts smaller than the people - money is power - when money is distributed in proportion to work, power is democratically spread - since no one can work more than twice as hard [100 hours a week] as the average [50 hours a week] - and none of the 'reasons' for paying higher than average pay per hour are reasons<br><br>why would i have to know everything before putting forward an idea? - why would i have to study everything first? - you are trying to send me off to do some more reading - but you cannot give one reason for unlimited fortunes - what is driving you to try to tell me to go away? - am i saying to anyone, go away and read more before they post? - why are you doing that? - you are trying to find holes in the plan, attacking me in desperation with what straws you have - why? - why not just think to see if it is true, if it is useful to you, if it is a doable plan? - you fight like a child getting an injection - remember that i am not there with you, i am never going to be near you - you are on your own - you will never be in debt to me - my life is completely separate from yours - you will never know me - it isnt me - it is your life and you - i am no one - the truth is the thing - if there seems to be truth here, grab it, steal it, it's free - it is you against your unreality, your incorrect notions, that is the battle, between reality and unreality in you, for you - it is just you - im not there - im not anything, im not an enemy - i disappear when i disappear - my voice stops - reality goes on at your address - and reality is merciless - engage with reality - peer through the screen of human non-sense<br><br>if i have an idea, why do i have to read every other idea before putting it forward? - it terrifies you that i might have a good idea - you struggle to make it go away - why? - what is the danger? - <br><br>if you think that they cannot be prohibited from doing anything, why are you talking about them? - they are few - history says they have always been brought down - sense says they will be always brought down - if not by the poor, by the rich - they have so much money! - and it isnt theirs! - and people are such thieves! - and the love of overpay is great - why wouldnt they squabble and scratch eternally for what they believe is valuable? - banks get robbed because that is where the money is - you really have to be mad to want a lot of money - it brings so much trouble! - look at all the trouble britain had to get and try to keep its plunder - quot serves, tot hostes - money really is very good, so having a tremendous amount of it, especially when others have very little, is asking for trouble - is giving yourself a bad time in a big way - <br><br>seriously undermines your credibility - i am glad to learn that i have or had some credibility - <br><br>as soon as there is a law against overfortunes, the police can - will - must - go in and arrest the overfortuned, the thieves of trillions and of world peace - if you catch someone stealing your wallet, you get angry, you probably hit them - and just because someone is wearing a saville row suit, you are paralysed? - you cant grasp they are thieves? - if people were not under a spell, they would kick the duke of westminster dead in the street - one of the thieves of just about everything: peace, 90% of money, billions of lives, someone who has brought zillions of troubles, labours, griefs, problems to billions of people - robbed the world of 99% of goodness! - killed most policemen! [by stealing so much, people have turned to crime, and criminals have killed the policemen] - <br><br>no one can have earned more than about US$2 million - anyone with more than that is a thief - legal or otherwise - a thief - just the same as a bank robber, a bandit, a highwayman, a mugger - a thief, a stealer, a robber - people even called them robber barons, and yet didnt lynch them! - rockefeller had families burned alive in their strike hovels and no one lynched him - no mob dragged him out of his offices and tore his clothes off and let him run around and get scratched to death by all the people who had lost family to his murderous thugs<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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