Next Hurricane - Rita - RRRR??

by **heath7** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:03 pm

I am really upset by this. This hurricane won't hit for two more days, yet I fear many will not be able to get out of the way even though I'm sure the means exist. Every vehicle evacuating the gulf coast shoud be crammed full like its carload-special night at the drive-in theater. Is Houston even safe? This hurricane still has a couple days to go, and is already nearing 150mph. Is Houston remotely ready for a Cat. 5 storm? If NOLA wasn't, I can't believe Houston is. Also, It seems the real-life version of the movie Oil Storm is more like a mini-series. Along with devastating our fourth largest city (Houston), If Rita makes ground anywhere near either side of Galveston, this powerful storm will have scored another direct hit on our nation's energy infrastructure, increasing my own suspicion that either there is a God trying to punish the USA, or HAARP is real. Maybe all the Florida hurricanes last year were steered, to insure good federal response to pliable Florida voters in last year's election. It'd explain somewhat why the Lakeland, Florida area, which rarely gets directly hit by hurricanes, was hit directly by three of them last year. This is all just too unreal.

by **AnnaLivia** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:09 pm

SO GLAD to know you will know your kids are safe. i know what a relief that would be for me, in and of itself. i sure hope you can convince/arrange others to far safer ground, too, so that you can get YOURSELF out of there before it hits. i'll stand down on the driving, but i'll be standing by if there's any form of concrete help i can provide. wish i was there to help man phones. don't panic, sis. just proceed in the obvious direction and get everyone who possibly can, away from the area. hug those kids, and maybe remind them that, yeah, it's a big storm coming, but big storms are part of how mother nature continually renews life on earth, and you know what to do when one comes and you're doing it. maybe they'll wind up in a library, curious about how weather on earth works and the part storms play? holding every good thought for you and all down there real close, anna

by **somebody** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:53 pm

GND01.... I didn't realize that you worked for a disaster agency. I try to read though all your posts, but I guess I rushed through some of them. Of course you can't leave. You and the people in your shelter I bet will be fine. Being on the north end of Houston, ya'll should do well. I was worried that you were close to Surf Side or something. Didn't mean to cause more grief. You've got lots to do, and ya'll will be ok. My son is in Houston, too. Just not along the coast. I was just worried for you. Peace

by **Dreams End** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:01 pm

At least Houston is not below sea level. However damage to affected coastal towns will likely be significant. This hurricane thing, whatever the truth behind them, global warming, Haarp, whatever, is getting a little freaky.

by **Avalon** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:23 pm

GDN01, if you get back here -- Given the large number of kids separated from parents in NOLA, and stories like that of little Diamante who was leading the pack of toddlers, has there been any effort to tell people to make sure they put some sort of identification on their little ones who are too young to properly identify themselves if they get separated? Given recent incidents it should become standard procedure to tell people in the face of evacuation to write some sort of identifying info on little kids with a permanent marker, or even a ballpoint pen if that's all that's handy. You're not likely to get any rest of the sort you need soon. Remember to use the precious minutes you do have, even if it's only while you're in the bathroom, to just take a moment to center, let your breath go in and out deeply and slowly, and just give yourself a conscious break from the chaos around you. If you know that you will do this occasionally, it can be a lifeline for you that can help you cope better. You're strong, courageous, and well- trained. And you have the best wishes and caring energy of all of us here.

by **Dreams End** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:48 pm

and raise those oil prices now, eh? <blockquote>Quote:<hr><a href="http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=businessNews&storyID=2005-09-21T155238Z_01_MOR155505_RTRUKOC_0_US-ENERGY-VALERO-CEO.xml">today.reuters.com/news/Ne...RO-CEO.xml</a> SAN ANTONIO (Reuters) - Valero Energy Corp. (VLO.N: Quote, Profile, Research) Chairman and Chief Executive Bill Greehey said Hurricane Rita's impact on U.S. crude oil production and refining could be a "national disaster." "If it hits the refineries, and we're short refining capacity, you're going to see gasoline prices well over $3.00 a gallon at the pump," Greehey said in a Tuesday night interview. Valero became the largest U.S. refiner earlier this year when it completed the purchase of Premcor Inc. Valero operates refineries in Port Arthur, Houston, Texas City and Corpus Christi, Texas -- all potentially in the path of Hurricane Rita. "It's going to be coming across the (U.S.) Gulf (of Mexico)," Greehey said. "There's a lot of oil platforms, oil rigs, (natural) gas platforms, gas rigs. It could have a significant impact on supply and prices, and then, depending on what it does to the refineries, there are still four refineries that are shut down. So this really is a national disaster." Refineries in Houston and Texas City process 2.3 million barrels of crude oil or 13.5 percent of daily U.S. refining capacity. The Beaumont-Port Arthur, Texas, refineries account for another 1.1 million barrels in refining capacity. Based on Rita's current forecast path Texas City, Houston, Port Arthur and Beaumont could be lashed by high winds and heavy rains from Rita's northeast quadrant, which often packs the highest winds in a hurricane. Valero announced on Wednesday morning it would reduce production at its Houston and Texas City refineries to prepare for the hurricane. "You've got refineries that will start shutting down in anticipation of the hurricane, and then if any of them have permanent damage, we're going to be dependent on imports. Following Katrina, this is really serious." <hr></blockquote> By the way, current forecast of storm track looks a little more southerly so there appears to be less chance of impact with LA. However, they always seem to take those little unexpected turns and given the state of things in New Orleans, even 3 inches of rainfall could be a significant problem.

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by **DrDebugDU** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:00 pm

The latest recon report indicated the pressure in Rita has fallen to 920 mb and the maximum flight level winds were over 175 mph. AccuWeather.com Meteorologist believe Rita has become a Cat 5 hurricane. <a href="http://home.accuweather.com/index.asp?partner=accuweather">home.accuweather.com/inde...ccuweather</a> It will mostlikely drop before land fall, but the likelyhood of cat. 4 or 5 is high (25%)

by **gotnoscript** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:42 pm

Rita may be 'national disaster': oil CEO <a href="http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=businessNews&storyID=2005-09-21T155238Z_01_MOR155505_RTRUKOC_0_US-ENERGY-VALERO-CEO.xml">today.reuters.com/news/Ne...RO-CEO.xml</a> Rita could equal $5 gas The timing and strength of the latest storm could cause worse spike at the pumps than Katrina did. <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2005/09/21/news/economy/rita_threat/index.htm">money.cnn.com/2005/09/21/.../index.htm</a>

by **GDN01** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:54 pm

I am beyond upset right now. Because we are not in a forced evacuation area, the govt. agencies will not begin to set up shelters. So it's up to us non-profits to do what we can. I have a lady who is in poor health and dependent on oxygen - if we lose electricity this could be fatal. Her only help is her 82 year old mother. The shelters like mine that are opening up do not have generators. There is NO WHERE designated to take care of people with chronic medical needs in this area. One hospital I called said they would not take her. Another one I called - the ER Nurse, understanding my concern, first said "if the electricity goes out, bring her here." Then I reminded him that if we wait until the electricity goes out, and we're in the middle of the storm, we won't be able to get her there. So he said while he couldn't come out and say they will shelter people, if she "shows up", she will be cared for. I am trying to find someone to drive this woman and her mother to Dallas. We are under a voluntary evacuation order. Most people are doing what people do in a disaster, taking care of themselves and their family - cars are full and I can't find someone to just take these women out. And now we have a Cat 5 hurricane. And two days before landfall. I keep thinking about the amplifier in "Spinal Tap" that would go to 11. What's after 5? Thank you all for your support. Even though we don't "know" each other, it helps to know there are people who care. My kids don't want to leave without me. I've told them they have to go. They are saying they won't - and they are 15 and 16, kinda hard to pick up and throw in a car. I don't know what to do.

by **DrDebugDU** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:10 pm

WTF? A hurricane which just hit 900 mb (worse than Katrina) is approaching Texas and you are not in a forced evacuation area. There is nothing after 5. If it makes you feel any better. It'll probably loose some strength in the next couple of days, but it'll be a big one. Try to convince the kids to leave. I mean you don't want to take risks with your children. Be brave! I know you are very brave!

by **AnnaLivia** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:17 pm

remind those kids in no uncertain terms that it is the righteous duty of everyone who can get out of the area to do so. if they refuse to take care of their own interests, someone is going to have to do it for them, and there's too many other people who will need what help is available. unless they are trained to be helpers, the most unselfish and helpful thing they can do is to leave. it's the best way they can be of help to you, too. one very big worry not to have to worry about. remember to center like avalon said...it's WELL worth taking a few minutes here and there.

by **DrDebugDU** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:38 pm

Unconfirmed yet

by **Sweejak** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:43 pm

Hell isn't half the USa in a state of emergency, even New Hampshire. Snip via email: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>TF--Get a Load of this FEMA and Bush Corruption Happening Now! Edited on Wed Sep-21-05 08:10 AM by DemocracyInaction This has been all over tv here in Maine yesterday and today. We have 400-500 trucks hired by FEMA unloading ice in Portland. The trucks are stacked from here to hell and back as they unload only 4 or 5 trucks a day. The drivers have been here for weeks and are receiving a minimum of $800 a day to sit and wait. A portion of this is ice diverted from Houston as it was traveling to NO in the wake of the disaster! But it gets better.... Local news reporters were trying to film and get a story. FEMA drove cars, vans, etc. in front of their cameras to block shots. They warned the reporters that if they aired remarks of some of the drivers, that all these drivers would no longer receive contracts (in other words, these boys will find you and kill you if that happens). Then today, a local anchor on this morning was almost bursting out laughing into the camera. She had a "what the fuck" look on her face as she announced that Bush has declared Maine and New Hampshire Federal Disaster Areas (thus shoveling a barrel of money our way) because we have 70 evacuees from NO up in this neck of the woods. Ohhhhh, wouldn't those "liberals are going to tax you to death" tightwad base of his just love to see how these filthy carpetbaggers and vultures are burning money (YOUR MONEY, MORONS) to line their greedy friends pockets. And it looks like junior is throwing money (YOUR MONEY, MORONS)all over the country to win back his "popularity". These guys smell like a dead whale. <hr></blockquote>

Next Hurricane - Rita - RRRR??

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