17th street canal- New Theory

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17th street canal- New Theory

Postby OnoI812 » Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:16 am

THE 17TH STREET BREACH WAS THE KILLSHOT FOR NOLA<br><br>VERY brief theory summary: Katrina destroys the restaurants near the marina on lake Ponchetrain>Restaurant wood and debris wash up against bridge>4 hours after Katrina, Drain pumps come on and start delivering water into canal>bridge turns into dam>Cops on scene> Communication breakdown> orders to shut off pump never received > water backs up, tops, and destroys floodwall or floodwall is destroyed while debris clearing is attempted(explosives?)<br><br>listen here for full theory and map links:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.spitfirelist.com/RA/F-526a.rm">www.spitfirelist.com/RA/F-526a.rm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.spitfirelist.com/RA/F-526b.rm">www.spitfirelist.com/RA/F-526b.rm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=onoi812>OnoI812</A> at: 9/16/05 6:40 am<br></i>
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Re: 17th street canal- New Theory

Postby FourthBase » Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:22 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>...water backs up, tops, and destroys floodwall or floodwall is destroyed while debris clearing is attempted(explosives?)<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Exactly, your theory must account for the floodwall breach.<br>Floodwall breach = disaster.<br><br>PEOPLE: FORGET THAT THERE WAS EVER A HURRICANE.<br>FOCUS ON THE LEVEE, FOCUS ON THE FLOODWALL.<br><br>The disaster was because of levee failurte, not hurricane., <p></p><i></i>
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Re: 17th street canal- New Theory

Postby OnoI812 » Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:54 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Exactly, your theory must account for the floodwall breach.<br>Floodwall breach = disaster.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>not my theory <br>this is the theory of Ed Haslam. A 35 year nola resident with intimate knowledge of the drifter lane and marina area and its inhabitants. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=onoi812>OnoI812</A> at: 9/16/05 3:57 pm<br></i>
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Re: 17th street canal- New Theory

Postby DrDebugDU » Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:14 pm

Do you know anything more about what he talks about in the beginning. Mary, Ferrie and the Money Virus.<br><br>I can only find this:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Now that the American public has been made aware of secret government sponsored radiation experiments conducted on unsuspecting citizens during the cold war, the idea that AIDS is a man made disease no longer seems far fetched. <br><br>If you question the fairy tale that AIDS is a natural virus that drifted in from a remote African village, this book is for you. Edward Haslam contends that a secret government animal cancer virus laboratory located in New Orleans in the 1960’s may have served as the birthplace of the AIDS virus. <br><br>Of interest to conspiracy buffs, is that David Ferrie, one of the key playersin the JFK assassination, had documented links to the lab. In fact, some of the cancerous animals were housed in his apartment. Fans of Oliver Stone’s JFK will remember Joe Pesci’s over the top portrayal of Ferrie, who met an untimely death in the film when he was force-fed a lethal dose of prescription drugs by government agents.<br><br>Ferrie’s demise conveniently occured the day before he was to be arrested on charges of conspiring to murder the president, thus helping to destroy Jim Garrison's conspiracy case against the government. Sharing center stage with Ferrie and also linked to the underground lab is Mary Sherman MD, a noted cancer researcher who was found slashed, mutilated, radiated, and set afire in a still unsolved murder of grand proportions. <br><br>Why was Sherman involved with a violent political extremist and a laboratory that specialized in inducing cancer in animals? Why was she murdered in her apartment and set on fire ? Where are her medical records and writings today ?<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.freedomdomain.com/Catalog/catbookg.htm">www.freedomdomain.com/Catalog/catbookg.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>That's the only reference I can find about his book. Do you anything more about the story he's talking about?<br><br>Edit: I typed "Fairy" instead "Ferrie" LOL. No wonder I could only find one link... <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 9/16/05 4:16 pm<br></i>
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17th St. Canal

Postby rapt » Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:47 pm

I listened through the two tapes and looked closely at the aerial image of the floodwall break. In view of reports that explosions were heard at the time of the break, I have been suspicious that it was an intentional flood.<br><br>Now those of you who went thru the whole presentation will have seen that the author is right, that debris washed up against the Bucktownr Bridge on the lake side of it and served as a dam which prevented canal water from running out into the lake, whose level is much lower at the time the picture was taken. So the author's contention, made repeatedly, is that the high water level in the canal caused the breach, and he blames the NOPD and/or FEMA for not noticing this debris dam in time to stop the pumping. If I didn't know better I'd say it sounded like a cover story whipped up in a hurry.<br><br>I admit to being a hopeless skeptic, but the dynamite story holds more water for me. Still considering all the possible explanations. Yes, a panicky rush to get the water out come what may, when all the right people were not on hand to coordinate communication, makes sense. However, such a long section of concrete seawall should not have been swept out of place without help from explosives. The sound was there. A diver found evidence of explosives too.<br><br>I am sure that whatever the truth we the people will never be told. BTW, a bit of research, or checking with old New Orleanians, will confirm that the New Orleans Levee Board is a well entrenched and very corrupt agency. (I lived there for twelve years) <p></p><i></i>
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I'm listening to it right now. The pictures

Postby DrDebugDU » Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:55 pm

I don't trust google to keep the evidence, so I'm making some copies...<br><br>Note the dam of garbage which block the lake into the canal and the low water level above it. So it is not the lake which is flowing into the city. It is literally stopped by the garbage and that dam caused the problem. So the story is the other way around it was the clogging of the canal which made it overflow and it had nothing to do with the lake! It was the water from the city which couldn't flow into the lake!<br><br>Man, we need a transcript of this story...<br><br>The red building is the Homeland Security Building...<br><br>Very good story.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs46.xs.to/pics/05375/onimage1.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs46.xs.to/pics/05375/noimage2.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs46.xs.to/pics/05375/noimage3.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs46.xs.to/pics/05375/noimage5.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs46.xs.to/pics/05375/noimage4.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs46.xs.to/pics/05375/noimage6.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 9/16/05 5:01 pm<br></i>
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A diver?

Postby FourthBase » Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:12 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>A diver found evidence of explosives too.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Please tell us more! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: A diver?

Postby dbeach » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:27 pm

the govt is capable of anthing..particularly in these last days of power..as the TRUTH bursts out<br><br><br>the 9/11 discussion seemed to drift into an endless arguement of the specifics of the crime...Katrina from the start looks like govt insider job to hide past crimes as in AIDS lab [news to me} and of course seize the tragedy as another cash bonanza<br>plus get rid of the underprivleged and plus further tighten the martial laws .28 states have state of emergency.<br><br>So the elites kick back count their future profits and plan their next caper.<br><br>.AH LIFE AT THE TOP<br><br>and dems say bush is slow...<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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LOL. No that aids thing was a different story

Postby DrDebugDU » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:21 am

It was another investigation by this guy. There are quite a number of stories about aids being an inside job, but it was a seperate matter altogether <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>My headache is making it hard to type <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >: --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> but the main story is about the breach being caused by the debris blocking the canal.<br><br>The point is that the flow of the water was different then what the news said, it wasn't the water from the lake which flowed into the city, but it was the water from the Mississippi which flowed into the city. <p></p><i></i>
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Army Corp Photos and canal diagrams

Postby OnoI812 » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:26 am

see photos 5 and 4<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nola.com/hurricane/popup/nolalevees_jpg.html">www.nola.com/hurricane/po...s_jpg.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Army Corp Photos and canal diagrams

Postby DrDebugDU » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:48 am

WTF<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs46.xs.to/pics/05376/hammond.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Huge sandbags are kept nearby to plug this hole in the hurricane protection for Jefferson and Orleans parishes.<br><br>And then we look at the google satellite<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs46.xs.to/pics/05375/noimage6.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>And that bridge was just finished, but the project wasn't finished yet as you can see from the other 'unconstructed' part. It was due to be finished until Summer 2006. ( <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001051313">www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001051313</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> )<br><br>So where those sandbags still there. If so, why weren't they used? If not, why not, because the project wasn't finished! <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 9/17/05 12:49 am<br></i>
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Re: Army Corp Photos and canal diagrams

Postby dbeach » Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:34 am

oops !!!! but there is no end to their crimes and theri merging of crimes and capitalizing on every step<br><br>bush is dum is such a great cover story<br><br>he graduated yale zoo and harvard too<br><br>yes he was a lousy student but he has ADD or some learning disorder . not bad gets to be the acting pres plus how many brain cells get blown out during dope abuse..bush is slow but not dumb dumb is the dems who think of him like that <br><br>I hear pooppy o has bi-polar that is mood swings<br><br>oops again I mean poppy o<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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