Creating or Steering Hurricanes - is it possible?

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Re: more infowars (anti-hurricane)

Postby Dreams End » Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:42 am

This India Daily black hole thing is silliness.<br><br>However, without a single document in my possession to back it up, I would find it very unlikely that the military is NOT engaging in such research and that any results they are having are way ahead of non-classified research. That's just the way they do things...<br><br>Never had heard of Bearden but the link from Lurker is good. There is a network of these guys...not sure what the game is. But Beardon and Greer and CSETI and an oil company and Laurence Rockefeller...and I would add to that list, Daniel Sheehan, formerly of Christic Institute. these "too good to be true" revelations often track back to similar shady networks. Check out the 9/11 truth movement backers some evening. Man.<br><br>Their motive...well, could be to create disinfo out of whole cloth and see how it spreads. Outrageous stuff is easier to track.<br><br>Or, alternately, it could be to dominate the discussion and misdirect or provide limited hangouts or simply to end up discrediting portions of information. I really don't know...but this pattern is just so pervasive. And the fact that Rockefeller and an oil company are involved makes sense. <br><br>I'm beginning to suspect that a VERY large proportion of information on the web that is "insider" is actually similar such operations. In fact, I have a LIST of these sites:<br><br><br><br>Heh...just kidding about the list. But not about my point. Take, CSETI...you've got Greer and Beardon and some kind of oil company and Greer (according to that site) saying he can afford to fly all over the world because Rockefeller is his friend. rockefeller foundation is heavy into UFO and crop circle type research. (also into depopulation but I'll let that rest.) Now, joining CSETI was Danny Sheehan of Christic that took a slam dunk case showing complicity of the government in all kinds of Iran Contra stuff and screwing it up with attempts to prove allegations of a "secret government" running it all. (Maybe there is one, but he certainly didn't prove it in court and gave some good "ridicule immunity" to the idea. Last time I heard from Sheehan, he was saying the same thing, but the context had changed to UFO's at that big project disclosure news conference some years ago. Sheehan is former Jesuit Legal counsel and worked also on the Silkwood Case. Also in the Kucinich campaign (in my view to make sure the unlikely candidacy of Kucinich stayed unlikely.)<br><br>Don't know what it all means, of course, and won't claim all these people are direct agents or anything. But lots of games here.<br><br>By the way, I know I'm off topic a bit, but I think that this may be a limited hangout thing. They have to make use of some public record technology so let's get the ridicule factor going here and make sure that the discussion is dominated by people who lack credibility. Something like that.<br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: more infowars (anti-hurricane)

Postby whipstitch » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:07 am

Thanks lurker for all the links. I read the stuff on Bearden and Hoagland (on the other thread). My take is that Bearden's info is disinformation (perhaps he is just being fed this stuff and believes it) to muddy the waters around weather manipulation and the like. One thing that crossed my mind while watching that Bearden presentation video was that if what he was saying was true and being supressed why was he still alive and why has he been all over the scene for so many years?<br><br>Hoagland has never appealed to me because, while I find his information intriguing, his exposition of ideas is always unclear and incomplete. I heard him many times when he appeared on Art Bell's show (a haven for disinfo specialists and hucksters for the second half of the 90s) and he always struck me as none-to-bright.<br><br>More likely than not, these hurricanes are being manipulated, but how it's really being done is not being explored probably because of the prevailance of all this distracting material from Bearden and Hoagland.<br><br>So does this leave us with HAARP?<br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: So does this leave us with HAARP?

Postby spyvsspy » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:23 am

I believe that HAARP is the basis for Hoaglands viewpoint, and Bearden's too. This tech has been supposedly been actively played with since the early-mid 60's. Using the energy from solar flares might be an improvement in the overall design, the ability to direct that energy into storm building or other uses, would greatly enhance the process and magnitude of the end creation. <br><br>I remember the days when hurricanes had a more natural shapes in the eye. I would like to know the first hurricane detected with a pentagram shape if pictures exist. Is this recent or have pentagrams been showing up since the early 60s?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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DOD briefing: Please Debunk

Postby spyvsspy » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:33 am

Is this bad intelligence like Iraq wmds? Is this CIA imagination? Is this disinformation from the secretary of Defense or candid factual remarks? How do you process this information and your current belief structure for weather control. Remember this information came out 8 years ago. Progress report 2005?<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/1997/t042897_t0428coh.html">www.defenselink.mil/trans...28coh.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>DoD News Briefing<br>Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen<br><br>Monday, April 28, 1997 - 8:45 a.m. EDT<br><br>There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.<br><br>So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Aum Supreme Truth & Wired Magazine & Prediction

Postby spyvsspy » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:57 am

Found the info. I remember reading about this in the 90's. Bearden talks about the Yakuza also. Info below indicates Aum Supreme Truth was linked to the mob (i.e. Yakuza). <br> <br>Aum Supreme Truth<br><br>Wired magazine 1996: <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.07/aum_pr.html">www.wired.com/wired/archi...um_pr.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>For Asahara, the Kobe earthquake was stunning proof of the coming apocalypse. Aum's chief scientist Hideo Murai, however, did not believe the quake was an act of God. He was a scientist after all, and scientists have rational explanations.<br><br>"There is a strong possibility that the Kobe earthquake was activated by electromagnetic power or some other device that exerts energy into the ground," Murai later told an assembly of international reporters. This device, he added, was possibly operated by the US military. Murai's attempts to explain further were drowned out by derisive snorts from reporters. A device capable of triggering massive seismic movements sounded hopelessly sci-fi and far-fetched. But as it turned out, Aum wasn't the first to be fascinated by the idea.<br><br>"Nikoratesura" is the closest Japanese rendering of Nikola Tesla (1856 1943), the brilliant Croatian-American who discovered alternating current and pioneered radio, the electric motor, and remote control. Tesla studied the possibility of transmitting electric energy over long distances by taking advantage of electromagnetic waves emitted by Earth - in effect, using the planet as a giant, wireless conductor. In 1899 at Colorado Springs, Tesla lit hundreds of lamps about 40 kilometers away using a large induction coil, a device that produces an electric current by changing magnetic fields. He afterward claimed that the same method could in theory be used to send a signal through the Earth that could be picked up on the other side.<br><br>Nikola Tesla's remarkable mind led him to a field we now know as telegeodynamics. Here his theories grew extraordinary. He believed that by manipulating the Earth's electromagnetic forces, one could dramatically affect both climate and seismic activity; in other words, play god. Tesla warned that his discovery could split the planet in two - "split it as a boy would split an apple - and forever end the career of man."<br><br>Although many geologists dismiss this notion as comic-book nonsense, recent research has shown that earthquakes are preceded by unusual emissions of low-frequency electromagnetic waves, produced by small cracks in lower layers of plates in the Earth's crust. Tesla's ideas were in fact taken very seriously by both the US and Soviet militaries. Portions of the man's papers, seized by the US government after his death, remain classified even today. Some US experts reportedly believe the Soviets used a "seismic weapon" to trigger an earthquake in Beijing in 1977.<br><br>An earthquake machine! It's not hard to see why the idea excited Murai. He wanted to know more, and that's where the six members of the Japan Secret Nikola Tesla Association came in. A month after the Kobe quake, the members began a series of trips to the Tesla museum in Belgrade, where many of his papers reside. There they searched for data on seismology and electromagnetism. Meanwhile, the cult's New York office contacted the International Tesla Society in the US, asking for information on Tesla's inventions, patents and writings. The Kobe tremor may have been an act of God. Hideo Murai was determined that Japan's next earthquake would be an act of Aum. <br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.copi.com/articles/guyatt/aumi.html">www.copi.com/articles/guyatt/aumi.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Murai possessed an IQ higher than Einstein's and was considered to have been the most intelligent Japanese who ever lived. His role within Aum Shinrikyo was the development of extremely sophisticated weapons of mass destruction. These included an advanced laser-powered seismic device capable of generating massive earthquakes. Some weeks before his death, Murai was present at a press conference in Tokyo's Foreign Press Club, where Aum's charismatic guru, Shoko Asahara, claimed that the massive earthquake that devastated the City of Kobe was an act of war. As incredible as these assertions appear, they are not without some substance.<br><br>Extraordinarily, Asahara had predicted the Kobe quake nine days before the event. In an 8 January 1995 radio broadcast, Asahara stated "Japan will be attacked by an earthquake in 1995. The most likely place is Kobe." Murai also adhered to this view.1 <p></p><i></i>
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re: infowars/psyops/mindwars - covert/dish/cassio

Postby hanshan » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:49 pm

<br>Dreams End:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Never had heard of Bearden but the <br>link from Lurker is good. There is a network <br>of these guys...not sure what the game is.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Rogue Groups May Also Have Arisen<br> to Divert the Purpose of the Projects</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br><br> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> And that is where real problems may <br>arise. Every human group has within it competing <br><br>subgroups, jousting for power. The more highly classified the group and its activities, and <br>the less that is known about it outside its<br> confines, the more strongly and secretly <br>the subgroups can play. So they can emerge <br>as rogue groups pursuing their own agendas, <br>not that of their duly elected governments. <br><br>In the extreme, such a deep black program can<br> even become a "captured" program, which is <br>totally in the hands of rogues and no longer <br>reports to or is bound by the dictates of the parent government. <br><br> It has long been suspected in some<br> quarters that even the US's highly classified <br>research community may be riddled by such rogue groups, and so may be certain highly sensitive<br> parts of the Research and Development community. <br><br> Remember that, in every large and powerful human organization, the basis for rogue groups is power and secrecy. They are always seeking to increase their power, control, influence, prestige, etc. Nothing else. Patriotism and mission are—to rogue groups—often just idle words. They have their own agendas. And being rogue groups, they may well bring in unethical, immoral tricks: assassination, bribery, entrapment, disinformation, plausible deniability, etc. A certain percentage of a highly secret rogue group will wind up using all these things and more. It's a human characteristic, the old primate dominance game. Only now disguised and hidden under deep classification. <br></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cheniere.org/explore%20articles/mind%20control3/p05.htm" target="top">www.cheniere.org/explore%20articles/mind%20control3/p05.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Part III, pg 3<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cheniere.org/explore%20articles/mind%20control1/index.html" target="top">www.cheniere.org/explore%20articles/mind%20control1/index.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cheniere.org/toc2.htm" target="top">www.cheniere.org/toc2.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:blue;font-family:comic sans ms;font-size:xx-small;">....</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: re: Creating or Steering Hurricanes: Possible?

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<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,686,605.WKU.&OS=PN/4,686,605&RS=PN/4,686,605">United States Patent/Eastland: Method & Apparatus etc.,etc.</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br>12 pages from the U.S. Patent Office w/ illustrations <p></p><i></i>
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Eastland patent + weather control

Postby spyvsspy » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:11 pm

Eastland is the main scientist behing HAARP. Here is an excerpt from his patent.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,686,605.WKU.&OS=PN/4,686,605&RS=PN/4,686,605">patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/n.../4,686,605</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br><br>This invention has a phenomenal variety of possible ramifications and potential future developments. As alluded to earlier, missile or aircraft destruction, deflection, or confusion could result, particularly when relativistic particles are employed. Also, large regions of the atmosphere could be lifted to an unexpectedly high altitude so that missiles encounter unexpected and unplanned drag forces with resultant destruction or deflection of same. Weather modification is possible by, for example, altering upper atmosphere wind patterns or altering solar absorption patterns by constructing one or more plumes of atmospheric particles which will act as a lens or focusing device. Also as alluded to earlier, molecular modifications of the atmosphere can take place so that positive environmental effects can be achieved. Besides actually changing the molecular composition of an atmospheric region, a particular molecule or molecules can be chosen for increased presence. For example, ozone, nitrogen, etc. concentrations in the atmosphere could be artificially increased. Similarly, environmental enhancement could be achieved by causing the breakup of various chemical entities such as carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, nitrous oxides, and the like. Transportation of entities can also be realized when advantage is taken of the drag effects caused by regions of the atmosphere moving up along diverging field lines. Small micron sized particles can be then transported, and, under certain circumstances and with the availability of sufficient energy, larger particles or objects could be similarly affected. Particles with desired characteristics such as tackiness, reflectivity, absorptivity, etc., can be transported for specific purposes or effects. For example, a plume of tacky particles could be established to increase the drag on a missile or satellite passing therethrough. Even plumes of plasma having substantially less charged particle density than described above will produce drag effects on missiles which will affect a lightweight (dummy) missile in a manner substantially different than a heavy (live) missile and this affect can be used to distinguish between the two types of missiles. A moving plume could also serve as a means for supplying a space station or for focusing vast amount of sunlight on selected portions of the earth. Surveys of global scope could also be realized because the earth's natural magnetic field could be significantly altered in a controlled manner by plasma beta effects resulting in, for example, improved magnetotelluric surveys. Electromagnetic pulse defenses are also possible. The earth's magnetic field could be decreased or disrupted at appropriate altitudes to modify or eliminate the magnetic field in high Compton electron generation (e.g., from high altitude nuclear bursts) regions. High intensity, well controlled electrical fields can be provided in selected locations for various purposes. For example, the plasma sheath surrounding a missile or satellite could be used as a trigger for activating such a high intensity field to destroy the missile or satellite. Further, irregularities can be created in the ionosphere which will interfere with the normal operation of various types of radar, e.g., synthetic aperture radar. The present invention can also be used to create artificial belts of trapped particles which in turn can be studied to determine the stability of such parties. Still further, plumes in accordance with the present invention can be formed to simulate and/or perform the same functions as performed by the detonation of a "heave" type nuclear device without actually having to detonate such a device. Thus it can be seen that the ramifications are numerous, far-reaching, and exceedingly varied in usefulness.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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"rumours"

Postby rain » Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:38 am

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Raising a Storm

Postby Nonny » Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:49 am

Title: Raising a storm. (cover story) <br>Authors: Mullins, Justin <br>Source: New Scientist; 7/27/2002, Vol. 175 Issue 2353, p28, 6p, 1 diagram, 2c <br><br>Born out of chaos, the weather seems a law unto itself. But tweak it at the right time and we can take control, says Justin Mullins<br><br>HURRICANES and typhoons batter the coast leaving hundreds dead. The rains fail and crops wither in the field, or the stuff keeps falling until the rivers burst their banks. There are tornados, blizzards and blinding sunshine. No matter where you live, or how rich you are, you can be sure that the weather will always have the upper hand.<br><br>And no wonder. The atmosphere that drives it is a complex machine powered by colossal amounts of energy from the Sun. And not only that, it's chaotic too. What hope is there of controlling the weather when, in the famous words of Edward Lorenz, the flap of a butterfly's wing in Brazil could set off a tornado in Texas.<br><br>But what if this exquisite sensitivity could be used to our advantage—not merely to predict the weather, but to actually control it. Warm the ocean at a particular spot in the mid-Atlantic, for example, and northern Europe's next depression might stop in its tracks. Cool the air above Santa Barbara and a welcome rainstorm could go rumbling across the Arizona desert.<br><br>Researchers believe they have already glimpsed the soft underbelly of chaos that could put the atmosphere under our command. The new ideas are so potent that these scientists are beginning to think on the grandest scale. Perhaps, they whisper, it will one day be possible to control the weather from pole to pole.<br><br>Set against these grandiose aims, previous attempts at weather modification seem pretty puny. The first came in the late 1940s, when scientists discovered that raindrops form more quickly if ice crystals are present in the clouds. The crystals act as seeds for raindrops by encouraging moisture to condense around them. Perhaps, the scientists reasoned, they could trigger rainfall by seeding clouds with crystals that have a similar structure to ice.<br><br>Experiments followed all around the world. In the late 1960s, during the war in Vietnam, American forces launched a secret programme called Operation Popeye to seed rain clouds over Laos in the hope of flooding enemy supply routes (see “Weather wars”, p 30). The results were inconclusive, but attempts to trigger rain continue to this day in the US, Asia and elsewhere.<br><br>None of these efforts rate as an unqualified success. The biggest problem that has dogged them all is the impossibility of proving that they've worked. After all, when you can't tell in advance how much rain a cloud would have produced unaided, how can you tell whether seeding it really altered its behaviour?<br><br>And how, critics argue, could we ever hope to learn this? The atmosphere is impossibly disordered. Its evolution is governed by a complex set of rules that depend on a multitude of factors including wind speed, temperature and atmospheric pressure. The chaotic nature of this system, first pointed out in the 1960s by Edward Lorenz at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, means that a small change in any of these factors, perhaps even the proverbial butterfly, is amplified and can end up having a large effect on the state of he weather.<br><br>But Ross Hoffman is undaunted. A student of Lorenz's in the 1970s, and now a meteorologist at consulting firm Atmospheric and Environmental Research in Lexington, Massachusetts, Hoffman sees chaos not as a problem, but as a key to the solution in the quest to control the weather. For the past two years he has been investigating the idea that the chaotic system of the atmosphere can be controlled by “limited resources applied intelligently”: in other words, by injecting small amounts of energy at the right place and time. NASA's Institute for Advanced Concepts is impressed enough to be funding further research.<br><br>In fact, controlling chaos is nothing new. Engineers have already worked out how to control spacecraft following chaotic orbits. And electronics experts have harnessed a circuit that oscillates in a chaotic manner to generate digital radio signals (New Scientist, 8 April 1995, p 36). The weather is far more complex than these systems, but today's forecasting programs and the computers they run on are powerful enough to mimic the behaviour of real weather, for a short while at least. Take this a step further, Hoffman believes, and we could make the shift from forecasting the weather to controlling it.<br><br><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>And now the forecast</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--> <br>Hoffman woke up to the possibility a full quarter of a century ago, in 1977, when he was still under Lorenz's wing at MIT. Casting around for a subject to research, his attention turned to programs called numerical weather prediction models, which are based on mathematical models that encapsulate the laws governing the behaviour of the atmosphere. Feed the current state of the weather into the model, allow it to evolve, update it every few hours with details of real weather conditions, and it will predict the state of the atmosphere at some point in the future. It is programs like these that allow meteorologists to give us our nightly TV weather forecasts.<br><br>Hoffman's idea was to use these programs for more than just forecasting. He figured that by hijacking the model, it ought to be possible to calculate what it would take to nudge the weather in the direction we want it to take. Say, for example, that you want to find out how to intercept a cold front travelling north and send it eastwards instead. His idea was to start out with a model of the weather system based on real data, and let it evolve with time. However, rather than simply watching to see what happened, he wanted to modify the model so that it searches through a wide range of conditions close to but not quite the same as the real weather, looking for those best able to send the cold front to the east. His computer model would then work out the smallest perturbations necessary to achieve this goal. Hoffman even proposed this idea to Lorenz as a potential thesis topic, but Lorenz advised his student against it: it was far too risky a topic. Besides, Hoffman realised, the technology simply wasn't up to it at the time. But since then computers have become more powerful, and weather models more accurate. So a few years ago, Hoffman decided it was worth a second look.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Oddly enough, the ideal test bed for Hoffman's ideas is not a gentle everyday weather system, but a hurricane.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> That's because hurricanes have been so intensively studied that computer models of these violent weather systems are among the most accurate and advanced. The current state-of-the-art technique for this kind of modelling is known as four dimensional variational data assimilation or 4DVAR, and Hoffman applied a modified version to the path of Hurricane Iniki, which devastated the Hawaiian island of Kauai in September 1992. His plan was to set up a weather simulation based on data from the event, and then try to steer the simulated Iniki away from Kauai by warming the air above an area of ocean to the west of the hurricane. The idea worked perfectly. When he ran the model, he found that in a 6-hour period, he could steer the hurricane over 100 kilometres to the west of Kauai. “It is as if the hurricane is attracted to warmth,” he says in a paper on the work submitted to the journal Geophysical Research Letters this year.<br><br>But his simulation suggested that temperature is not the only variable that must be controlled to move Iniki off-course. Rainfall and the wind speed around the hurricane also needed tweaking. This would be impossible in practice, so the next stage of Hoffman's work is to modify his model to see if the same result can be achieved by changing only one of these factors, and then to calculate exactly how large a change would be needed and where it would have to be applied.<br><br>So how big is this change likely to be? According to Hoffman's current models, steering a hurricane is likely to require altering the temperature of the air by around 1°C or changing the wind speed by several metres per second over areas of several hundred square kilometres. He's planning to repeat the simulations this year to pin down the actual amount needed.<br><br>But even without those results, it's clear that there's no practical way of creating perturbations on this scale to order. For his scheme to stand any chance of success, Hoffman realises he must look for perturbations on a much smaller scale, perhaps over just a few square kilometres.<br><br>One factor that stands in the way of achieving this is the poor resolution of the 4DVAR model. Numerical weather prediction models break up the atmosphere into a grid in which each cell is around 60 kilometres across. But as models improve, and the grids get finer, it should be possible to calculate how even smaller disturbances could do the trick. By 2008, Hoffman expects to be working with a grid just 15 kilometres across. And meteorologists are finding better ways to make the large numbers of accurate measurements of local weather conditions that will have to be plugged into these models. In 2004, for example, NASA's GIFTS satellite will begin to provide detailed maps of temperature and the concentration of water vapour in the atmosphere.<br><br>To make a system that can be used in earnest, the modified weather prediction model will have to be harnessed to control the devices that will pump in the energy at the right time and place. Fed with the latest weather readings, his software will compare the state of the current weather with the model to find the smallest perturbations that can send the weather the way he wants it to go (see Diagram, p 32). And of course Hoffman must be able to come up with a way to create and control these perturbations.<br><br>This is a mighty tall order. One suggestion is to have satellites equipped with steerable minors in low Earth orbit that could reflect sunlight onto the required spots on the planet. Another is to set up arrays of wind turbines that would operate in reverse: driven by an external power source, they would act as giant fans, whipping up an artificial wind. Perhaps cloud seeding techniques, or even a cloud-dispersing gel recently tested by an American company, could do the trick.<br><br>Using aircraft vapour trails to cool parts of the Earth's surface by providing shade from the Sun is another possible way of creating the required temperature differences, Hoffman suggests. But as well as blocking sunlight during the day, these contrails might prevent the escape of infrared radiation. This would have the opposite effect and warm the atmosphere, especially at night. After 11 September, when commercial flights over the US were banned for three days, scientists recorded a 1°C increase in the temperature range at ground level, a significant change. Whether Hoffman could use this effect isn't yet clear.<br><br><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Steer a hurricane</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--> <br>Despite the difficulties, Hoffman is getting some encouragement for his ideas. “I think it's a promising line of work. It's very plausible,” says Kerry Emanuel, an atmospheric scientist at MIT. Emanuel himself has ideas about how hurricanes can be controlled. The key, he says, is to understand where hurricanes get their energy.<br><br>It turns out that much of their power comes from the evaporation of seawater, which transfers heat energy from the ocean into the atmosphere in the same way that sweat evaporating from skin carries heat away. A typical hurricane extracts energy from the ocean at a rate of up to 1000 watts per square metre. Depriving a hurricane of this source of energy could change its course or weaken it, Emanuel says. It is well known, for example, that hurricanes rapidly lose their energy after reaching land.<br><br>To achieve this, he suggests covering the ocean in the hurricane's path with a film of oil only a few atoms thick. “Thin films strongly curtail evaporation,” he says. Emanuel likens it to creating an artificial landfall for the storm. He is currently testing the idea at MIT's Hurricane Mitigation Lab — motto: “Where hurricanes become a breeze”. His team has built apparatus just a metre across that can create miniature hurricanes and monitor the way they interact with the water they travel over. Using one cylindrical tub set inside another, the device creates a ring of water across which a fan drives air at up to 70 metres per second, whipping the surface into a spray. “It's roughly similar to what you get in a hurricane,” he says.<br><br>Emanuel has already measured how much energy is transferred from the water to the wind in these circumstances, and later this year he plans to see what difference a thin layer of oil makes. “We'll probably start with natural oils such as fish oil or olive oil because they are non-toxic,” he says. Since the layer need only be a single atom thick, a small amount of oil would suffice to cover a large area — a few teaspoons could cover the area of a large lake, says Emanuel. He suggests that a plane fitted with crop-dusting equipment could cover hundreds of square kilometres of ocean in the path of a hurricane.<br><br>There is just one problem. While a thin layer of oil might stop heat being transferred from calm water, Emanuel admits it's unlikely to have much effect when the wind whips the sea into a maelstrom of spray and foam. Most likely the wind will simply mix the oil with the water, allowing evaporation to continue unabated. However, there is a small chance that this will not happen, especially if Emanuel uses synthetic oils such as hexadeconol that have much stronger intermolecular bonds than natural oils. “The potential benefits are so enormous and the cost of this experiment so low that it is worth having a try,” he says. He should find out the results some time later this year.<br><br>Meanwhile Hoffman accepts that the time has not yet come when his ideas can be used to change the weather. But when the technology becomes more sophisticated, in perhaps 20 or 30 years, it may be more realistic to weigh the costs of launching mirrors into space or spraying oil over vast regions of the ocean against the damage that wild weather can do. Emanuel points to one of the most powerful hurricanes ever to make landfall, which devastated Miami in 1926. “If such a hurricane were to hit today it could cause $78 billion worth of damage. That's enough to sink the entire insurance industry.”<br><br>To Hoffman this suggests a rather different way to approach weather modification. “It's not going to be about pointing the hurricane to a particular spot at a particular time,” he says. Instead it may be possible to design models that can calculate the cost of potential damage as a function of wind speed. The computer then calculates a perturbation to the atmosphere that minimises this cost. If this approach is adopted, the exact path of the storm may not matter.<br><br>Neither Emanuel nor Hoffman think it would be right to alter the weather just for the sake of it. The many hurricanes that form in the Pacific and Atlantic each year play an important role in mixing water layers in the upper ocean. Most never threaten populated areas so there is no need to change them. “It would be quite irresponsible,” says Hoffman.<br><br>Yet if this kind of control proves successful for hurricanes, why not use it elsewhere? Smaller weather systems such as rain or snow storms or even tornadoes may not wreak as much havoc, but equally, it would take far less energy to control them. If you can delay the onset of a heavy snowstorm on the Eastern seaboard of the US until after the rush hour, for example, why not do it, says Hoffman.<br><br>But perhaps it isn't quite that simple. Changing the weather to benefit one area could bring unwanted effects elsewhere. Weather over different regions of the globe is tightly coupled, so wherever you alter it there are almost certain to be knock-on effects. Steering a storm system away from New Orleans, for example, might prevent massive loss of life and damage there, but lead to a change in rainfall patterns over Mexico, the Caribbean or South America that might be catastrophic for local farmers. “The nation that controls its own weather will necessarily control the weather of other nations,” says Hoffman. And this could trigger conflict. “Weather wars are conceivable.”<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Even more worrying is what could happen if the military get their hands on such a powerful force.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Through military eyes, the capability to steer a hurricane this way or that may look temptingly like the ability to point a multi-megaton weapon at a chosen target. In a US Air Force study called AF 2025, which outlines crucial strategic weapons of the future, weather control is singled out as one of the most important. A UN convention signed in the 1970s specifically outlaws the use of weather modification for hostile purposes, and for now, the official US Air Force line is that the weather is of little strategic value. But Arnold Barnes, an atmospheric scientist at the US Air Force Research Lab at Hanscom Air Force Base in Massachusetts, believes that should change. “The position needs to be re-evaluated,” he told an audience at a US Army technology conference last year.<br><br>Who is to say that if weather modification does become a practical possibility, it won't become a weapon of war. It may turn out that one day the temptation to abandon the UN agreement will be too great to resist.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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ROSS N. HOFFMAN

Postby Nonny » Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:29 am

ROSS N. HOFFMAN is a principal scientist and vice president for research and development at Atmospheric and Environmental Research {AER] in Lexington, Mass. His primary areas of interest cover objective analysis and data assimilation methods, atmospheric dynamics, climate theory and atmospheric radiation. He has been a member of several NASA science teams and was a member of the National Research Council Committee on the Status and Future Directions in U.S. Weather Modification Research and Operations. Hoffman would like to thank the NASA Institute for Advanced Concepts for supporting his work as well as his AER colleagues, particularly John Henderson, for their efforts in this research.<br><br>CONTROL OF SIMULATED HURRICANES <br><br>Researchers are using computer models to simulate two destructive 1992 hurricanes, Iniki and Andrew. The colors represent wind-velocity categories, whereas black contour lines indicate gales of 56 miles per hour, generally the lowest wind speed that produces damage.<br><br>In the simulations of Iniki, the original track of the eye takes the storm's high winds onto the Hawaiian island of Kauai. But when several of the model's initial conditions, including its temperature and humidity at various points, were altered slightly, the simulated storm track veered to the west of Kauai, passing over a target location some 60 miles away. It then continued northward, moving farther west of the island.<br><br>The maps of the seas off Florida and the Bahamas below depict simulations of Andrew in its unaltered state and in an artificially perturbed form. Although damaging winds remain in the controlled case, maximum velocities have been reduced significantly, thus calming a Category 3 hurricane to a much milder Category 1 state.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Eastland patent + weather control

Postby DrDebugDU » Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:35 pm

About Eastland. The HAARP system was for 980KW (activated) and upto 3.6 MW, but he is now working on a 1,000 MW system.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>The plans for <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>HAARP as I understand them are to go to 980 KW this year, and ultimately about 3.6 MW</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. Significant direct <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>interactions with tropospheric weather patterns would require power levels of 100 MW</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> or more. However, even at 3.6 MW significant experiments could be performed.<br><br>It has also been suggested that upper atmosphere winds (above 50KM) play a role in the motion of the lower altitude jet stream.(J. R. Herman and R. A. Goldbert. sun, Weather and Climate, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Washington, D. C. ) Balsley et al have studied the modulation of the auroral electrojet and found correlation with modulation of the zonal winds at 88 KM altitude.<br><br>The HAARP antenna as it is now configured modulates the auroral electrojet to induce ELF waves and thus could have an effect on the Zonal winds.<br><br>I recently have revisited the potential for electromagnetic beam modification of weather in a series of papers written with the support of the European Space Agency. They asked me to investigate potential applications in which a Solar Power Satellite was the source of energy. (They have been designed for 1,000 MW)<br><br>I have published two papers on the use of what I call the "Thunderstorm Solar Power Satellite" and have done numerical simulations of its use to prevent tornado formation in mesocyclones. They are: "<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Systems Considerations of Weather Modification Experiments Using High Power Electromagnetic Radiation</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->", Published in Proceedings of "<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Workshop on Space Exploration and Resources Exploitation-Explospace</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->" 20-22 October, 1998, Cagliari, Sardinia, Italy.<br><br>Last week I presented:<br><br>"Mesocyclone Diagnostic Requirements for the Thunderstorm Solar Power Satellite Concept" Published in the Proceedings of "The Second Conference on the Applications of Remote Sensing and GIS for Disaster Management", Jan. 19-21, 1999, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Sponsored by NASA and <!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:red;">FEMA</span><!--EZCODE FONT END-->.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Safety is emphasized in both papers.<br><br>[Dr. Bernard Eastlund]<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.borderlands.com/spacewea.htm">www.borderlands.com/spacewea.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The study into his 100MW system (according to the above he has upgraded the design for 1,000MW = 1GW):<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs45.xs.to/pics/05363/tsps1.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs45.xs.to/pics/05363/tsps2.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8083/tsps39rt.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4909/tsps43ct.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4958/tsps55gz.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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re:interactions with tropospheric weather patterns

Postby hanshan » Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:22 pm

<br><br><br>great info DrD etal <br><br><br>thanks<br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:blue;font-family:comic sans ms;font-size:xx-small;">....</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Documentary about HAARP, Eastlund and Tesla

Postby DrDebugDU » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:48 pm

Save target as:<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://mistakesweremade.com/vid/haarp-advanced_tesla_technology.ram">mistakesweremade.com/vid/haarp-advanced_tesla_technology.ram</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Contains an interview with Eastlund and talks about weather modification about 51 minutes. Source unknown.<br><br>I've also found Eastlund's site. He is busy with some very interesting experiments. The document above is also available for download, but there are more documents including plasma processors for nuclear fusion. It's state of the art stuff and ... it can be used for good and for evil...<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.eastlundscience.com/">www.eastlundscience.com/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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re: raising a storm

Postby anon » Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:29 pm

Who needs Beardon et al ...<br><br>History of HAARP <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/envronmt/weapons.htm">www.globalpolicy.org/soce...eapons.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Washington's new world order weapons<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/27a/048.html">www.hartford-hwp.com/arch...a/048.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>As to Katrina and who may have "assisted" the storm [if it was indeed manipulated], motives and potential sources abound.<br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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