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Any explaining this Rita radar?

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:36 pm

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/marti/2005_EIGHTEEN/webManager/basicGifDisplay48.html" target="top">Rita</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>A gif of the points in questions from <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://cyberspaceorbit.com/" target="top">cyberspaceorbit.com/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://cyberspaceorbit.com/last24hrsa3.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>What do you make of that? I saw a loop of this yesterday: they appear out of nothing, intensify, holding their positions, and then fade to nothing.<br><br>Also from Cyberspaceorbit:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>kent, whatever those 5 spots are, they definitely are not an artifact and they are the cause of rita turning north a few miles ahead of schedule. they seem to be directed from corpus christi. my presumption is that they are ships. we have high powered microwave weapons , ship mounted, in the 90-110 GHZ range which overlaps the radar freq. used in the animation. i worked on the first ones in 1983. contract was NSG through DOD. they heat a thin surface layer of any watery target (like raindrops-though that wasnt the original intent) they are aiming UP toward top of rita. you found a definite "something"<br><br>The Chief of Naval Research, RADM Jay Cohen, has established fleet-oriented priorities for ONR, including technologies for all-electric ships within the next ten years, producing electric-powered high energy laser and microwave weapons <br><br>September 24, 2005: The following [known] Navy ships were in the region: the Iwo Jima, the Shreveport, the Tortuga, the Grapple 2, the Patuxent and the Comfort SLEUTHS any additional ideas about ships?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Any explaining why the computer forecasts went beserk

Postby DrDebugDU » Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:48 pm

I put it in the main thread as well, but let's repeat it here as well.<br><br>Around landfall the computer models went beserk and made the weirdest predictions. It was like they couldn't make sense of the data...<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs47.xs.to/pics/05380/forecast.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Any explaining this Rita radar?

Postby Jimb0 » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:00 pm

FWIW, working on analysis of this over at psiwars.net too.<br><br>Also, these are reported post-Katrina Navy assets reportedly deployed. I was interested in correlations between reports of jamming and the arrival of a 'communications support vessel', one of the first navy assets deployed. I tried but cannot find the report or the name of the vessel. I though it was mildly interesting a C3 platform would be the first deployed. Anyway, different topic:<br><br> The USS Bataan, an amphibious assault ship, and the HSV Swift transport craft from Naval Station Ingleside, Texas, sailed to the waters off Louisiana; four helicopters were flying medical evacuation and search and rescue missions. Bataan's hospital also may be called upon. <br><br>c The Iwo Jima Amphibious Readiness Group is preparing to sail from Norfolk, Va., loaded with disaster response equipment. The group consists of four amphibious ships and will arrive off the coast of Louisiana in the next five days. <br><br>- The hospital ship USNS Comfort departed Baltimore to bring medical assistance to the gulf region and should arrive in seven days. <br><br>- Plans call for deploying the USS Grapple, a rescue and salvage vessel, to assist with maritime and underwater survey and salvage operations. <br><br>- Three Army helicopters from III Corps in Fort Hood, Texas, are in Baton Rouge; two more were sent to Mississippi to assist with search and rescue and damage assessment. <br><br>- Five Air Force helicopters capable of night operations from the 920th Rescue Wing at Patrick Air Force Base, Fla., and the 347th Rescue Wing at Moody Air Force Base, Ga., are in Mississippi conducting search and rescue. The helicopters also will transport the Federal Emergency Management Agency's assessment teams to gather information for state and federal emergency managers. <br><br>- Coordinating teams have been established in Clanton, Ala., Baton Rouge, La., Jackson, Miss., and Tallahassee, Fla., to work with Northern Command, FEMA and the Pentagon. <br><br>- Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala., Naval Air Station Meridian, Miss., Barksdale Air Force Base, La., and Fort Polk, La., are being used as federal operational staging areas to speed movement of relief supplies and emergency personnel to affected areas. <br><br>- Northern Command is providing command and control vehicles, personnel and planning services. The command's Joint Operations Center in Colorado Springs is on 24-hour duty to handle further deployments, if requested by FEMA. <br><br>- U.S. Transportation Command flew eight civilian volunteer swift water rescue teams from California to Lafayette, La. The 14 personnel with vehicles and small rigid-hulled boats are capable of rescuing stranded citizens from flooded areas. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Any explaining this Rita radar?

Postby marykmusic » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:02 pm

I think there's more story here.<br><br>If these were Navy ships under orders to create and maintain weather-modification efforts, then why wasn't Houston (the real target) hit? Whatever else was going on, the end result was that Houston was spared (other than power outages, from "exploding" transformers blamed on tornadoes. That's a weird concept, too.<br><br>By Wednesday it was being reported that "when" Houston got his, the gas prices might hit $5/gallon. But at Friday's closing, when it was obvious that Houston would be spared, the price-per-barrel had dropped $2.31. <br><br>On NPR this morning, a report mentioned the "100 mph winds." That was the hardest-hit area. It is not in agreement of the spin being put out the whole time Rita was approaching land. As the force diminished, rather than simply reporting the sustained winds MPH, they started saying, "near 170." "Near 150." As she was making landfall, "Near 120." I guess if you want to look at it like that, 100 is near 120. But it's not the usual way that this is reported.<br><br>Many people worked on Rita, to help minimize damage. Dragon sat herefor two whole days, doing this with not only his mind, but also his sunrise-and-sunset Agnihotra smoke (its properties as a healing modality have been known for centuries, but because he accepts no limits and therefore is creating new uses, the parameters are expanding.)<br><br>And Rita was certainly changed from what she was meant to be-- a death-blow to the heart of the Gulf oil industry. --MaryK<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Any explaining this Rita radar?

Postby anotherdrew » Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:39 pm

source on ship locations:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.marinetimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1118072.php">www.marinetimes.com/story...118072.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1114398.php">www.navytimes.com/story.p...114398.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>these are massive signatures, 20 anti-mine ships where available in the area, don't know if they have powerful radar systems or not.<br><br>did you see this arc in the animation? It draws from right to left and then fades.<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs47.xs.to/pics/05380/Untitled-1.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=anotherdrew>anotherdrew</A> at: 9/25/05 2:55 pm<br></i>
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Compulsive fear

Postby GDN01 » Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:59 pm

A lot of the dooms day predictors as well as the National Hurricane Center have suggested Rita will not be the last devastating hurricane of the season for the gulf.<br><br>So here's the options as I see them after looking at the links above.<br>1. There are competing forces/groups of people trying to control the weather. One is group is trying to save humanity, the other is trying to destroy it. The first group succeeded this time in steering Rita to a less populated area and decreasing its strength. In this case - it scares me to no end to think "they" will try again to destroy the Houston area, and will go to even greater efforts to ensure success. We are doomed.<br><br>2. The efforts to control the hurricane intended to have Rita re-strike New Orleans, and again failed. Once it was obvious that Rita would not turn to New Orleans, it was intentionally weakened shortly before landfall, and Houston is not a target and will not be struck by a devastating hurricane. <br><br>My gut instinct is #1. And I have this compulsive need to keep checking the website for the national hurricane center to see if there is another storm brewing. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gdn01>GDN01</A> at: 9/25/05 3:00 pm<br></i>
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Other possibilities

Postby Qutb » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:13 pm

They tried to steer it towards Houston, but didn't succeed? Or they actually steered it away from Houston, because they wouldn't risk the political fallout of even more disaster? They experimented with another, and less succesful technique this time? They steered Rita, but not Katrina, and don't actually want disasters to happen? No one steered either hurricane? Who knows... <p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:black;font-family:century gothic;font-size:x-small;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br></p><i></i>
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Postby thumper » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:15 pm

isn't Houston Halliburton headquarters?<br><br>I think they still achieved their goal, which was to wreak havoc in the gulf area where all the refineries are and have an excuse to gouge us. <p></p><i></i>
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in all honesty I've thought Mr. Kenton is pretty much just

Postby glubglubglub » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:17 pm

one crazy mofo, but THAT is a nice find. If weather mod / hurricane steering is taking place that's about what I'd figure it looks like: using HAARP (or similar stations) to first make a reflecting lense in the ionosphere and then secondarily beam a huge amount of emf to a particular region, where it could be received and focused for precise atmospheric heating.<br><br>To steer a hurricane, you'd make hotspots in the general direction you wished it to slide -- the higher temperature makes for easier traveling in that direction -- and with a squad of botes like that you can keep moving the boat closest to the storm to the front of the line once the hurricane gets dangerously close (or just have the boats keep pace with the storm). <p></p><i></i>
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Re: in all honesty I've thought Mr. Kenton is pretty much ju

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:08 pm

That reminds me of what they used to say of Saddam. Kent may be a crazy mofo, but he's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>our</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> crazy mofo! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby wintler » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:53 pm

Wanted to flag that Houston is not from the most important target in that region, theres a good chunk of US's remaining functional oil/gas/fertiliser refineries along the same coast, as well as pipelines from same that supply the rest of the country, n.east particularly.<br><br>V.preliminary reports are that they've escaped relatively unscathed, but it will still be a week before those refineries can be restarted. This inevitably creates supply shortfall. Best/most current reports:<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.theoildrum.com/">www.theoildrum.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Also, nobody is talking about the damage to NO's port & channels and thus to Mississipi shipping, which is disasterous for farmers all up the Miss. who cannot ship their harvest. Or the impact of loss of gas production on fertiliser output, crucial to global food production. I know most of you think oil peak is a scam, but regardless of peak, its production matters to many many more ppl than live in TX or LA combined.<br><br>In short, the 'worst' targets aren't necesarily people. <p></p><i></i>
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Or maybe there is no controller

Postby professorpan » Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:08 pm

I'm open to the possibility that weather modification or control is being used to create or steer hurricanes, but it's also quite possible that the past whopper hurricanes are simply <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>natural</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.<br><br>Sorry if that flies in the face of the current RI paradigm, but it's worth entertaining because, despite the funny-looking radar images and the bill in Congress which mentions weather modification, there is simply <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>no hard evidence</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> that hurricane creation and control is possible.<br><br>What worries me is that this particular idea -- that Katrina and Rita were created and manipulated for nefarious purposes -- is yet another red herring. If we become intently focused on that scenario, and it turns out to be false, it will further marginalize our attempt to shine the light on truth. It also distracts people from considering the very likely possibility that increasingly violent hurricanes are the result of human-created (or assisted) climate change.<br><br>I'm not suggesting abandoning the possibility that weather modification has progressed beyond its publicly know limits. I'm just suggesting that we try not to get myopically attached to a <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>possibility</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> that may not be true.<br><br>If we begin convincing people that devastating hurricanes are spawned by some sort of hidden cabal, and if we are incorrect, the real perpetrators -- oil companies, auto makers, and lother polluters -- will laugh with glee as we squander our argument and provide them with more fodder to marginalize us.<br><br>I always keep Angeles Arrien's quote at the forefront of my consciousness:<br><br>"Show up & choose to be present, pay attention to what has heart and meaning, tell the truth without blame or judgment, and be open rather than attached to the outcome."<br><br>In this case, I think it behooves us to remain "open rather than attached to outcome." <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ..

Postby Martha » Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:30 pm

wintler said:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>global food production<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Hmm. <br><br>Agriculture Department looking at closing more than 700 local offices<br><br>By Libby Quaid / Associated Press<br><br>WASHINGTON -- More than 30 percent of the nation's Farm Service Agency offices would close under a plan released Friday by the Agriculture Department.<br><br>The plan would close 713 of the 2,351 offices nationwide, according to a summary the department provided to the Senate Agriculture Committee. The Associated Press reported Sept. 15 on a draft plan to shutter 665 of the offices.<br><br>The biggest cuts -- 40 percent or more offices closed -- would come in Connecticut, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland and West Virginia.<br><br>FSA offices, a network in local communities dating to the 1930s, are the chief connection between farmers and the department. Employees there help farmers get loans and payments from a number of programs. <br><br>(snip)<br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.detnews.com/2005/business/0509/24/0biz-325741.htm">Link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Am I reading this right? If they shut down these offices there are less employees to help the farmers get their loans. No loans = no (or less) farms? <p></p><i></i>
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re:any explaining

Postby rain » Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:04 pm

thanx for that Jeff.<br>gee, why does that look like a slightly rapid heartbeat. <br>ha!<br><br>anyway, a leetle off track, but this is important, (days of '49), so -<br><br>Navy Secretly Contracted <br>Jets Used By CIA <br>By Seth Hettena <br>Associated Press Writer<br>9-25-5<br> <br>SAN DIEGO - A branch of the U.S. Navy secretly contracted a 33-plane fleet that included two Gulfstream jets reportedly used to fly terror suspects to countries known to practice torture, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press. <br> <br>At least 10 U.S. aviation companies were issued classified contracts in 2001 and 2002 by the obscure Navy Engineering Logistics Office for the "occasional airlift of USN (Navy) cargo worldwide," according to Defense Department documents the AP obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request. <br> <br>Two of the companies - Richmor Aviation Inc. and Premier Executive Transport Services Inc. - chartered luxury Gulfstreams that flew terror suspects captured in Europe to Egypt, according to U.S. and European media reports. Once there, the men told family members, they were tortured. Authorities in Italy and Sweden have expressed outrage over flights they say were illegal and orchestrated by the U.S. government. <br> <br>While the Gulfstreams came under scrutiny in 2001, what hasn't been disclosed is the Navy's role in contracting planes involved in operations the CIA terms "rendition" and what Italian prosecutors call kidnapping. <br> <br>"A lot of us have been focusing on the role of the CIA but also suspecting that certain parts of the armed forces are involved," said Margaret Satterthwaite, a New York University School of Law researcher who has investigated renditions. <br> <br>The Navy contracts involve more planes than previously reported " other news outlets totaled 26 planes; the AP identified 33 planes. <br> <br>Italian judges have issued arrest warrants for 19 purported CIA operatives who allegedly snatched a Muslim cleric from Milan in 2003 and flew him to Cairo, according to FAA records cited by the Chicago Tribune, aboard Richmor's Gulfstream IV. The jet belongs to a part-owner of the Boston Red Sox, who told The Boston Globe that the team's logo was covered when the CIA leased the plane. Another case involves two men taken from Sweden to Egypt in 2001 aboard Premier's Gulfstream V. <br> <br>Neither the CIA nor a Navy spokeswoman at the Pentagon would comment for this story. Officials at the Navy Engineering Logistics Office, or NELO, in Arlington, Va., didn't respond to messages requesting comment. <br> <br>Joseph P. Duenas, counsel for the logistics office, declined to provide the contracts, saying they "involve national security information that is classified." <br> <br>The secrecy surrounding the deals makes it unclear why NELO issued them, but one reason may be the office's anonymity " the agency is so buried within the Pentagon bureaucracy that some career Navy officials have never heard of it. <br> <br>John Hutson, a retired rear admiral who was the Navy's Judge Advocate General from 1997 to 2000 and is critical of the Bush administration's detainee policies, said he was not familiar with NELO. Told of its activities, Hutson said NELO employees could be held liable if they knew the planes would be used for renditions. Human rights lawyers allege rendition flights violate criminal law. <br> <br>The office has been around since the mid-1970s, according to a former employee who spoke on condition of anonymity because NELO's activities are secret. NELO operates under different names: it's also known as the Navy's Office of Special Projects and its San Diego location is called the Navy Regional Plant Equipment Office. <br> <br>None of those names is listed in the U.S. Government Manual, the official compilation of federal departments, agencies and offices. A man who answered the phone at NELO's Arlington office refused to give his name or the agency's address, suggesting it may be classified. <br> <br>In court documents filed in the case of a fired Office of Special Projects whistleblower, government attorneys described the agency's principal function as "the conduct of foreign intelligence or counterintelligence activities." <br> <br>The AP learned of the airplane contracts through a Freedom of Information Act request that focused on a different subject " permits granted to all 10 aviation companies that let them land at any Navy base worldwide. <br> <br>The permits list planes operated by the companies and a contract number issued by NELO. The numbers provide some details about the contracts, including when they were issued, but do not say when they expire. In the documents the AP reviewed, contracts were issued in 2001 and 2002 and were cited on landing permits issued in 2004. The NELO contract numbers also appear on permits issued in 2003 and 2004 that allowed seven of the companies to buy fuel at military bases worldwide. <br> <br>The permits list 31 planes under NELO contract other than the two Gulfstreams. They include a small Cessna; three huge Lockheed Hercules cargo planes; a Gulfstream 1159a; a Lear Jet 35A; a DC-3; two Boeing 737s; and a 53-passenger DeHavilland DH-8 photographed by plane spotters in Afghanistan. <br> <br>Ownership of the planes is shielded behind a maze of paperwork and elusive executives. <br> <br>James J. Kershaw is listed as president of three of the companies, located in Massachusetts, Tennessee and North Carolina. Two other companies share the same vice president, Colleen Bornt. Extensive public record searches could not locate either of them. <br> <br>Record searches also failed to turn up information on Leonard T. Bayard, whose firm bought Premier Executive Transport Services' Gulfstream. The address of Bayard's firm is the Portland, Ore., office of attorney Scott Caplan. <br> <br>Asked if his client is a real person, Caplan replied: "No comment." <br> <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.rense.com/general67/navy.htm">www.rense.com/general67/navy.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>other than that, so ok, Rita became the focus for a little boon-doggle - hey MaryK <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>and that's a nice quote from Arrien Prof.<br>but as for 'save humanity', humanity could well do to pull it's head out of wherever it's at and consider saving itself.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Or maybe there is no controller

Postby manxkat » Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:51 am

professorpan, thanks for your reasonable words -- I agree with what you're saying, and think that we need to find a balance between intuition/hunches and hard evidence. I guess, at this point, I haven't seen the kind of head-scratching or glaring anomalies as I did with 9/11 and other covered-up conspiracies. Of course, I'm not an investigative reporter either and certainly haven't been researching this -- just reading the points raised here at RI, which are valid but don't seem very conclusive. Perhaps someone will provide more proof.... until then, I'm being cautiously pessimistic about the idea of a weather conspiracy.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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